TruthHurts100: Hell fire and lake of fire. I still don't understand it. By your analogy, why did Jesus go to hell? And none of you has quoted any scripture to back these up.
He went there to preach to the DEAD whose souls are BANISHED FROM THE REACH OF THE MERCIES OF GOD!
Hmmm! So, if hell is a place of torment, what did Jesus go to do there? Why did the righteous man job prayed to go there and REST until God will call him?
No you're misquoting him this is what he said:
Westerhoffe: Hell is a place of banishment from the reach of the mercies of GOD to all souls who have been corrupted while they were on earth as a living soul.
So Job was praying to go and REST in a PLACE OF BANISHMENT FROM THE REACH OF THE MERCIES OF GOD TO ALL SOULS WHO HAS BEEN CORRUPTED WHILE THEY WERE ON EARTH AS A LIVING SOUL.
donnie: And what did you do? ABSOLUTELY NOTHING. But you are against those who seem to be doing something? Are you not sick? Do you know who sent me? Do you know what that image has done to our children, the next generation? And yet you are praying to a supposed God to save you? How?
I want to believe you're not frustrated so keep doing what you know that will bring benefits while i also continue doing what i know will bring benefits. There's no need arguing further.
donnie: Between me and you, who has displayed hatred, frustration and intolerance here?
Who is the first to start insulting the other?
Guy, it's frustration that makes people do that and the next thing they do is attacking their neighbours. But if you feel you're not in any way affected by this then let's remain friends as we both keep whatever we know and share it with whoever wish to accept it without insulting, cursing or bullying one another.
donnie: And what did you do about it? Did you correct the impression? Did you provide an alternative image to be used in your churches, homes and Sunday school?; what have you done to provoke your people to question or even remove such lies from supposed house of God? Nothing. But na for my body you see power, because you hate the truth and love lies.
The first thing you need to know about the real Christians is that we have just one organization and globally we don't associate with any other religion even though they are claiming Christians we know they are not. So there is no single Christian as in my own brothers and sisters in the faith who believe in the picture you posted as Jesus of Nazareth!
donnie: What is all this die die die you are always ranting here. You're watching the world's systems fail, wickedness and witchcraft in broad day light and by major institutions, and your seeing your lies being exposed, but it is convenient for you to pretend you're not seeing and rather threaten me? You must be mad. Did I call Putin on phone to expose your white Jesus lie? We only said they will start confessing and boom Putin pulled your skirts down a few weeks later.
OK you don't grasp what i meant by dying shey? I will explain!
There is nothing as in absolutely nothing you can do to change people's beliefs and as for what Putin is showing you it's a lie so for you to be safe and live a good life it's either you join the disciples of Christ Jesus who are going about preaching and teaching peacefully in their neighbourhood about God's Kingdom or you format the whole thing happening in the world around you.
If you go for the first option you will always be happy living and worshiping with people who are willing to be your brothers and sisters in all the earth {Mark 10:28-31} and if you go for the second option you will live a simple life without hurting anyone or getting hurt but if you drop the two options you will continue to develop hatred for people around you as you're having the feelings that their refusal to agree with you on the same line of thought is affecting them and you inclusive therefore when politicians are recruiting fighters to fight for their selfish ambitions lying that you're fighting for your right you won't know how to resist such manipulations hence they will push you to go and die. For your information your friend Putin has pushed thousands of his country men to go and kill or get killed in Ukraine yet he has failed to conquer Ukraine as he formally thought it would be easy!
Michael547: Oga bring out the research on when all the ancient people agreed and wrote down the universal standard on what is good and evil.
They want to boycott the Bible yet they want to establish morals, abeg where is the document that people agreed on globally that they're willing to abide by the code?
Most of you only misconstrue that word for the misinformed churchgoers around you who are claiming Christians so they are not but gullible religionists.
Jesus himself declared that Israel has been CURSED so why do you expect his real disciples to start defending a nation that has been cursed?
donnie: Exactly, my exposing Satan and his works earns me the title of terrorist in your kingdom Babylon aka Edom which shall be destroyed.
Guy, try to calm down otherwise you will just die like fowl if God wants to destroy falsehood on planet earth He doesn't need human effort so wait until God Himself do the judging!
donnie: Whatever religion or system you accepted or followed that hides from you your true essence, origin and ancestry, after stealing same from you, is Baal.
Story for the gods! Is that what they used to brainwash and recruit you as a terrorist?
sonmvayina: When I say the gospel stories are mockeries against God you will not get it... The anonymous people who wrote it never knew anything about God. If they knew that the devil or Satan is under God's control they wouldn't have said that..and moreover who was there with Jesus to record it... So we that left Christianity, we have a very valid and good reason
Sonmvayina i've told you to stop quoting me because your comments makes no sense at all to me so you can continue chatting with others but please my side is a no go area for you.
Docodes: Sodom and Gomorrah were burnt my sulfur and fire storm...abi that one na figure of speech? Look at volcanic eruption and flooding? Life is mysterious. God is very mysterious.
Destruction of living creatures totally differs from tormenting living creatures. It's when you see 'TORMENT' that is symbolic term God used any form of instrument to destroy His enemies and send them to oblivion but keeping them alive to be tormented? Naaaaaaaaaaaaaaa that negates His attributes! 1John 4:8
fredwill1357: My church and some other churches do engage in evangelism, it is not just as frequent as that of JW. Jesus didn't specify or command how often evangelism embarkment should be. In fact I am of the opinion that evangelism should not be done as a routine but as the holy spirit directs. I am not saying it is wrong of JW to embark on evangelism everyday or every weekend, but that, that doesn't necessarily make them the dedicated ones or the best church. I am not saying they are not, I am not saying they are either, but that frequency of evangelism is not the yardstick for judging righteousness or obedience to God. There is no perfect yardstick for judging righteousness, judgment is of the Lord. It is all about grace from God, his kingdom and his people.
FxMasterz: Even your colleagues in JW know that you lied that I've been mentioning you alone. If you can tell such a very obvious lie, then you definitely cannot be trusted.
But you can trust the person who said God's name belongs to demons. You're truly the most righteous and holiest of them all!
fredwill1357: What I wanted to ask you was more of private than secret. Edit my number out of the post you quoted. I don't know why you are jumping into conclusions, however no p.
I don't have PRIVATE conversation with strangers but i know a JW on this forum who often gives people like you the opportunity of having private chat with him. Will you like to meet him?
FxMasterz: They're Satanists. Maxindhouse just showed his true colour.
So of all the JWs on this thread Max is the only one you have continued mentioning even after taking my leave shey?
Ọmọ it's not by arguing blindly we have the assurance that only the NWT is doing great when it comes to making people go into the field ministry for evangelism just as Jesus commanded his disciples so your noise or accusations won't change that!
They're all deceiving themselves thinking their emotional blackmail will work. Imagine this commentator:
fredwill1357: What I wanted to discuss with you is not secret, but I would have preferred a private discussion. I recently started engaging in street evangelism, I wouldn't rate my current performance so high, practice makes perfect. Although Jesus said we aren't necessarily to force anyone to accept God or the word of God. Matthew 10:14. Our part is to pass on the message.
However I think I will improve faster with a companion, especially an experienced one. My question is will Jehovah witnesses allow a believer go on evangelism with them, if the person is not a member of JW? I might get a partner from my church branch or in my area, but most aren't eager so I have been getting postponements from them.
So they know that only Jehovah's Witnesses are dedicated servants of the true God all what they're here doing is to console one another that they don't have to be members of Jehovah's Witnesses before they can worship the only true God!
fredwill1357: What I wanted to discuss with you is not secret, but I would have preferred a private discussion. I recently started engaging in street evangelism, I wouldn't rate my current performance so high, practice makes perfect. Although Jesus said we aren't necessarily to force anyone to accept God or the word of God. Matthew 10:14. Our part is to pass on the message.
However I think I will improve faster with a companion, especially an experienced one. My question is will Jehovah witnesses allow a believer go on evangelism with them, if the person is not a member of JW? I might get a partner from my church branch or in my area, but most aren't eager so I have been getting postponements from them.
Well what you're asking is totally impossible no member of Jehovah's Witnesses throughout the earth will join you or allow you to work with him or her if you're not one of us we have our reasons but i will like to tell you the reason why you can't find dedicated ones who are willing like you in any other religion apart from Jehovah's Witnesses. Would you like to know why?
Truuth: puhaha.. You birth someone who does not look like you ? SMH How deluded can you be ? Angels were made from stones(precious stones), fire and Iron. God created them, how then did he birth them. .U get sense at all ??
Dude, God isn't calling anyone His Son based on birth rather qualities and attitudes.
For instance Jesus called his Jewish people sons of Satan due to their attitude {John 8:44} does that mean Satan birthed them like you're thinking?
Please if you can't reason with others this isn't a place for you otherwise you'll be insulted as you're doing to others!
Michael547: Do you think it makes sense for people in the bible to pray to God against evil that is to befall them if God himself was the architect and mastermind of all evil?
God sent Satan to Jesus then Jesus resisted the servant of God sent to him! Matthew 4:10
Sometimes it's funny chatting with people who don't just want to listen and learn!
Docodes: who created hell for punishment also created paradise for enjoyment. GOD ISNT LIMITED TO GOOD ONLY. na why people get disappointed cos they expect only good.
The Hebrew and Greek word translated Hell simply means GRAVE so God never created a place of torment for anyone in fact such thing has never come into His heart! Jeremiah 7:31
The WT hierarchy are in bed with the govt leaders. What is going on in Russia is just one example.
The WT leaders pretend to be upset about the "persecution" by the govt, but the WT leaders are in on it. It's part of their satanic sacrifice rituals. The same as WT hierarchy leaders defending CSA, promoting abusers, and using disfellowshipping to remove anyone who tells the truth.
Jesus is revealing that WT is part of Babylon the Great. The UN is a facade org for the masonic/satanic "brotherhood." The UN will eat up the religious institutions, starting with Watchtower. It is Jehovah's judgment against Babylon the Great. WT is part of Babylon the Great.
What is Babylon the Great? Which religion is no part of Babylon the Great?
Truuth: Do angels look like God ?? do they have the likeness of God. God never called any angel his son - Hebrews 1. Lucifer rebelled because he was instructed to serve man.
Who are the Sons of God that Satan came into their midst? Job 1:6 Instead of humbly learning you will just follow some books so far it's not requiring any form of standards from you.
Well angels are God's sons what God is telling us in that Bible verse is that He never introduced any of them to us so we shouldn't allow any angel to instruct us after having all the instructions from Jesus the One God said we must listen to him! Matthew 17:5 compare to Galatians 1:8
Truuth: "Let us make man" who is talking here ? and who is being spoken to ?
JEHOVAH started instructing His Son (Jesus) on how to go about the creation work as he was telling him what to do one after another but at the climax JEHOVAH told His Son who was beside Him as a craftsman "let us make man in our image" ! Proverbs 8:22-30; John 1:1-2; Colossians 1:15-16
It wasn't any Enki or whatever your Egyptians tablets told you rather it's JEHOVAH {Exodus 6:3; Psalms 83:28} and Jesus who was with his father in the beginning of creation!
Truuth: I don't know, but make your research... The tablets that told this story was written thousands of years back, it predates the bible.. and the stories from the bible not wholly true.
SpiritualWealth: And That's What Life is Truly All About! Some Men Just Have To Indoctrinate And Cajole People With The Bible As A Tool of Mind Control.
That phrase "MIND CONTROL" could be likened to all kinds of moral instructions since we need guidance to know how we can cohabit peacefully with our neighbours.
So books considered as inspired writings like the Bible could only be used to unleash the evil traits in the hearts of wicked people or to compel others into doing what is good but as for mind controlling it's a lie no human can be controlled to do what is totally negates their feelings!
“I Am Part of Jehovah’s Family” The Vyselkovskiy District Court of the Krasnodar Territory will soon announce its verdict in the case involving Brother Sergey Dvurechenskiy. The prosecutor has yet to request a potential sentence.
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Sergey Dvurechenskiy Born: 1975 (Vyselki)
Biography: Works in construction
Invited to attend a congregation meeting. Impressed by the logic of Bible teachings and how Jehovah’s Witnesses practice what they preach. Baptized in 2001
Married Yelena in 2009
Personal Comments What important lesson have you learned from this experience?
As I continue to face this persecution, Jehovah is helping me better understand the words at Psalm 18:35: “You give me your shield of salvation, your right hand supports me, and your humility makes me great.” This verse reminds me that Jehovah will always provide the support I need, often through my brothers and sisters. Every time I receive their help, I feel valued and motivated to appreciate and cherish my brothers and sisters in return. We are one united body. It is a joy to know that I am part of Jehovah’s family of worshippers.
We are greatly encouraged by the faithful examples of Sergey and others who have found that Jehovah is “a shield to all those taking!