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Truvelisback:
Why Kingdom Hall?

A hall is where people do meetings so it's called Hall and the purpose of our meeting there is to discuss how we can go about the Good News of God's kingdom.
That's why the is shortened "KINGDOM HALL"

jaephoenix:
Do u also know the JWs in the UK and US? Please don't dodge this question

Now you're ready to reason!
I don't know them in person.
So you can't quantify all members of the group as child molesters simply because of stories you read about some of them in UK and US, if 50% of members over there are into the act there's no way such won't be rampant here as well since they're the ones who brought it here.
Arabs brought Islam to Africa and other parts of the world and Arabs are intolerant that's why intolerance is their trademark everywhere the religion is allowed so if child molestation is the logo of JWs surely it should be rampant here as it's the people there that brought it here!

Truvelisback:
What do you call the place where JW members gather to worship?

Kingdom Hall

lanzini309:
This is the dumbest thing I have ever read on the internet today.. your are so dumb bro.

Voluntary offering is what he doesn't know so it's appropriate to TEACH him what that means!

If you're still following Mr Truvelisback offering becomes voluntary when you're not monitored or watched by others when donating but when everyone in the gathering can see if you're donating or not then it's no longer voluntary because you'll be known as one who isn't making any donations.

My first three weeks of attending meetings with JWs i have to ask my friend who took me there the fourth time why they don't make contributions, he showed me their box but i don't know when they're going there that's when he told me to keep an eye on the box from the beginning of the meeting till the end so the next time which is the sixth i kept looking at the box that's when i noticed them dropping what they have.

Ọmọ that's not the case with others churches because they will announce as in sing a song for that while everyone will line up to the offering box or it will be brought to you!

achorladey:
Freshboi88 what is the name of your church again. I need to provide succour to the madness and insanities peddling brains of MaxInDHouse lying and manipulating people on nairaland

He has ran away because he can't mention any known church with recognizable teaching all he wants to do is kick against the one and only group having unique teachings!

achorladey:
I am Achorladey I gather in the name of Jesus

That means you have nothing to contribute if you can't stand out with any known group as we all know that there are thousands of different religions claiming the same yet they have contradicting teachings and conflicting doctrines.

So you're welcome in the name of Jesus Christ please greet all the brothers and sisters in Jesus name if you know any in your neighbourhood!

So upon all the comments on this thread only one religion could be IDENTIFIED as disciples of Christ Jesus?

Thanks to God that i am one of them, the one and only organization standing tall above all the others! Matthew 5:14-16

achorladey:
Go and see the response I gave to Myer regarding the in the name I gather with others

I am Maximus one of Jehovah's Witnesses oya tell us the name of your own church!

achorladey:
Pretending with his madness and insanities peddling brains. Like sey na your first encounter with freshboi88. Liar and manipulator.

Obviously you are a member of his church so i ask you again please tell me the name of your church!

achorladey:
Jehovah's Witnesses have the right to Judge all other Christian denominations because Catholic is not doing fine
Activities of your madness and insanities peddling brains

What is the name of your own church?

EBEk101:
Mr smart, you mean to tell me, no one has cheated or manipulated you before ?

Judas CHEATED others when money was kept with him {John 12:4-6} does that disqualify Jesus who gathered them and appointed Judas as one of the twelve Apostles? Luke 6:13

So you can't judge a group by the shortcoming of one member when thousands are doing fine!

OnknownSoldier:
Are you arguing for JW or others?

Who are the OTHERS?

Are they all having the same beliefs?

If not then there's no arguing for countless religions with contradicting teachings and conflicting doctrines while claiming only one is wrong!

freshboi88:
Don't mind him

I thought you said JWs can't beat you in biblical debates, why must you debate my own group when you're hiding yours?

If we must debate then you and i have nothing to say about the group we belong so both of us will start talking about what we know you must not refer to my group since yours is not known.

Are you ready?

nathpope:
Can you tell what their stand is on tithes?
Or their method or belief about tithing?
I wld like to learn?

Our tithing is time we spend in the ministry so all members of the Christian congregation of Jehovah's Witnesses must pay this monthly it's not monetized rather it's the task Jesus gave all his disciples {Matthew 28:19-20} therefore we pay our tithe directly to Christ the high priest and not giving money to any body!

Truvelisback:
A church is a place of worship. Would you prefer you and your members to worship God in the sun 🌞 and in the rain or provide a shelter for you and your members? In Bible, there were Churches. The Church in Antioch is an example.

The highlighted is scripturally wrong church means group of worshipers not a building.

For instance if members of any religion gather in a place whether there is a building or not their gathering is what we call CHURCH not the building Sir.

That's the group Jesus was addressing not the building where they meet for worship! Revelations 3:14

Jesus said when the Apostles are dead Satan will plant his agents among his disciples {Matthew 13:25} and what will be the result?
Satan's agents will turn everything upside down so that the LOVE Jesus commanded his disciples to have for their NEIGHBORS {Mark 12:31} FELLOW BELIEVERS {John 13:34-35} and those posing as ENEMIES {Luke 6:27-28} became impossible and all those claiming disciples of Christ started fighting and killing people due to politics and racism in fact they were killing their fellow believers in other countries! Matthew 26:52

So are people committing all these atrocities true disciples of Christ who is the Prince of Peace?

NO! They are the ones that brought a CURSE on that name to BASTARDIZE it so when Jesus returned in the year 1914 what he established was nowhere to be found on planet earth! Luke 18:8

So if anyone is claiming CHRISTIAN today they must mention the group name that's unique to prove they're real practicers of what Jesus taught. No wonder there is contradictions here and there over doctrines yet they're all claiming CHRISTIANS.

Emusan:
I'm just happy the way you're exposing your own lies.

Now, Jws is AMONG THE GROUP CLAIMING CHRISTIANS.
That is settled.

Point right now is that you claimed:

1. The name Christian is CURSED and BASTARDISED.

2. Whoever thinks he BELONGS TO CHRIST under the CURSED and BASTARDISED old group NAME (Christian) should think twice

When did Jehovah decided to change your name back to the CURSED and BASTARDISED name Christian? Remember, Jehovah gave you a NEW NAME on the basic of Christian being a CURSED and BASTARDSED name and that was the reason you left the name for us.

You now belong to the same OLD GROUP NAME that is CURSED and BASTARDISED.

Very shameless lying liar Jws like your father the Devil.

STORY! STORY!! STORY!!!

There are thousands of different religions all claiming they belong to one teacher so mention the name of your own church nah!

freshboi88:
Is this the person that wants to debate me ? I asked u to clarify a clear contradiction using your own sources and you are here asking for my church. It is obvious you have no answer.

Clarification can only make sense when you're doing what true worshipers of God supposed to do. First century Jewish religious leaders also claimed that Jesus is false and an agent of Satan but are they performing as true worshipers of the Bible God?
NO!
So your blind argument makes no sense if you can't mention the name of your church then we can all see the WORKS of your FAITH just as many have testified to the FINE WORKS of the FAITH of JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES! James 2:18-26

Emusan:
I'm just happy that your shame is being put on a front page thread.

Jws is the one TAKING THE LEAD in GROUP CALLED CHRISTIANS.

Yet the name CHRISTIAN is a CURSED and BASTARDISED which means jws is the leader of the CURSED and BASTARDISED group name.

So, Jws are not Christian since "Whoever thinks he BELONGS TO CHRIST under the CURSED and BASTARDISES OLD GROUP NAME(called Christian) should think twice" - According to the lying liar Jws Maximumu

Oga what is the name of your own church?

Op and others have come out to declare that JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES are leading among all the groups claiming Christians and that's simply because they are the only Christian group so all eyes are on them! Matthew 5:14-16

But if you disagree oya mention the name of your own church!

achorladey:
the madness and insanities peddling brains got baptized 2014 and was lying about it on nairaland. Looool!
Ten years as official members usung more than 8 years of those calling people mad, insane, asiere, asinwin because they expose the lies and manipulations of your religious organisation.

Oga leave all these stories and tell us the name of your church àbí you're just deceiving yourself up and down after being thrown out of the gathering of Holy Ones? 1Corinthians 5:12-13

Instead of complaining about the organization you left behind let's talk about something better that you have found!

Emusan:
Jws are not Christian according to this LYING LIAR JWS like his father the Devil.

Do you now see that you can't prove that you have anything to do with Christ Jesus?

You must be submissive to those taking the lead in the group called CHRISTIANS {Act 2:42; Hebrews 13:7, 17} which means there must be a known group with which you're practicing what Jesus taught. Act 11:26

In the absence of that ọmọ you have nothing to do with Christ Jesus!

freshboi88:
We are not debating church man, you don't have a point.....JW claim Jesus is not God, but your own materials doesn't even agree with you.

According to your materials and the NWT bible, John 1:3 says everything came to be through Jesus and yet you teach Jesus is created. How can this be possible ? That means Jesus created himself.....hahahhaha

What is the name of your own church?

There are many other religions claiming Christians who don't agree that Jesus is the one and only true God whom he referred to as his father and our father, his God and our God! John 20:17

So before we proceed mention the name of your own church if truly you're a Christian àbí you're not even associating with any group at all?
Abeg how can you carry out the task Jesus gave his disciples if you're not associating with any known group? Matthew 28:19-20; Act 1:8

Emusan:
That is why I called you a shameless lying liar Jws.

You're the very one who said:

1. The name CHRISTIAN is CURSED AND BASTARDISED

2. That Jws have left the name CHRISTIAN for the Christendom because Jehovah has given you ANOTHER NAME, which means YOU'RE NOT TO BE CALLED CHRISTIAN or associated with the name Christian any more.

3. And that WHOEVER thinks he BELONGS to Christ under the CURSED and BASYARDISES OLD GROUP NAME(called Christian) should think twice.

Now, the shameless oponu lying liar Jws said "i'm a Christian belonging"

What is the name of your own church?

If you must know!

After God called Abraham out from among his pagan families and traditions {Joshua 24:2} he was favored for taking the bold step to leave his people and country to another place that he never knew despite all the troubles Abraham remain faithful to the God who called him.

So from then worshipers of the only true God began separating themselves from all others on planet earth.
The first GROUP name they were called is ABRAHAM'S DESCENDANTS then after God chose Jacob (Israel) worshipers of the true God were called ISRAELITES later the nation break into two and worshipers of the true God were called JEWS when Jesus walked the earth due to Jesus' claim that he is the WAY the truth and the life worshipers of the true God were called PEOPLE BELONGING TO THE WAY then in an ancient city known as Antioch worshipers of the true God were called CHRISTIANS.

In all of these God hasn't declared the GROUP NAME He wants His worshipers to be called as Jesus revealed that Satan's agents will continue to mix up with true worshipers and turning pure worship into something totally abhorrent {Matthew 13:24-29} but Jesus made it clear that by the time he return to check on his earthly followers what he established would have been lost {Luke 18:8} therefore it was when he returned in the year 1914 that he began calling out his people from different religions all claiming CHRISTIANS and restructuring the group in preparation of what lies ahead during this last days {Malachi 3:16} and by the year 1931 Jesus' group has been completely separated from all the false religions claiming Christians and he continues to enlighten them the more that's why many keep saying JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES are changing their beliefs.

One significant thing that happened in the year 1931 was the group name God began calling His worshipers:

JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES! Isaiah 65:15

Ever since that year all false religions started hiding behind the last group name God's people were called which is "CHRISTIANS" they are not proud to mention the name of their religions as they can all see the one and only group performing as Christians! Matthew 5:14-16

Though they may continue to say bad things about this one and only group {Matthew 5:11-12} but one thing is sure they will never be bold enough to mention the name of their own religion (church) despite the fact that everyone knows there are thousands of different religions claiming Christians rather they will all hide {Revelations 6:16} behind that all group name to attack the one and only group practicing what Jesus taught!

So before anyone could stand for a real Bible debate know that i am Maximus one of Jehovah's Witnesses the one and only group practicing what Jesus taught in the first century please mention the name of your own church let everyone know where you're coming from before pointing accusing fingers to the one and only house built on the highest mountain top! Isaiah 2:2 compare to Matthew 5:14-16

achorladey:
your GODS of men housed in USA said they are not inspired and make mistakes in doctrines and organisation direction and you are here saying you practice 100% christianity. Loooool!


Madness and insnities peddling as usual.

What is the name of your own church Sir?

Let's know your church people here wants to know a better performing group than JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES when talking about Christianity!

Emusan:
This is all what I want.

Now, back with the OLD GROUP NAME.

Which means, you're bearing the same name that is CURSED and BASTARDISED

Then you DON'T BELONG TO JESUS CHRIST

From your own mouth below as seen below on the screenshot.

Shameless lying liar Jws.

Guy i'm a Christian belonging to the one and only group practicing what Jesus taught in the first century known today as JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES because there are tens of thousands false religions all claiming Christians.

So mention the name of your own church then let's use the scriptures to clarify matters if JWs are not the only group practicing what Jesus taught today perhaps it your own church but coming here to claim you're a Christian when we all know that there are thousands of different religions claiming that name ọmọ you're a joke o!

freshboi88:
I am for Jesus Christ, wetin concern you with my church. Are the one they called to debate me....bro leave my church let's talk scripture.

If people on this thread are talking about one group of worshipers claiming Christians with a group name JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES and you want to debate the first thing you have to do is mention the name of your own group which you're associating with as fellow disciples of Christ Jesus in the absence of that then you're not ready for a real debate!

Emusan:
I've told you above!

But don't deviate from the main point.

Jws are not CHRISTIAN according to you.

Evidence below again.

I told you this will continue to hunt you.

Of course i'm a Christian but the group name God began calling us after we were called out of thousands of false religions {Revelations 18:4} dragging the group name CHRISTIANS with us is JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES! Isaiah 65:15

So if you want to claim Christian too you must mention the church you're associating with let us focus on the teachings, doctrines and activities of your church then we can compare with that of the group known as JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES today as we look into the activities of the first century Christians if your church is a Christian group or just one of the false religions masquerading as Christians today!

Emusan:
Yes! I agreed!

I'm one of those claiming to be CHRISTIAN and the Holy Book told me I should not be ashamed of the name.

Now, you claimed YOU'RE NOT A CHRISTIAN.

Why do you asked that person who is a Christian? Is my question.

The person says "they (Jws) are not Christian."


Below your statements

There is no Christian who doesn't attend church services so what is the name of your church?

InvertedHammer:
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Jehovah Witness practice 85% Christianity.

However they are still far better than the other sects that practice about 30% Christianity at best.

The only thing Christians about Pentecostals is just going to church. Otherwise they are bunch of jokers.
Christianity died in Africa and Pentecostals buried it especially with materialism as their foundation.

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I can proof to anyone that they practice 100% Christianity with the experience i've has with them so far!

FatherCHRISTMAS:
Why are we here?
Please don't say we are here to serve God. We could have served him in other places instead of earth..

Why are we here?

What do you understand by the highlighted?

Emusan:
Yes! I'm a Christian l.
Follower of Christ Church.

Today there is over 41,000 different religions claiming Christians with contradicting teachings and conflicting doctrines, Jehovah's Witnesses organization is just one whereas all these different religions are claiming followers of Christ yet they can't be since they're not having the same line of thought in teachings and doctrines! John 17:22; 1Corinthians 1:10; Ephesians 4:3

So failure to mention the name of a church means you're not one of those claiming Christians you're just trying to hide your beliefs since each religion has their beliefs which differs!