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AntiChristian:
Why would i when i am a Muslim?

You mean you don’t want to be critical as you are about Christianity to Islam?
Or are you saying all your statements about Christianity are critical but not true? You are just catching fun?

AntiChristian:
Aramaic, Hebrew and Arabic are Semitic languages with origin from Shem a descendant of Noah! So the languages have some similarities hence that is expected.


Allah states that Noah as well as Moses and others till Jesus were all Muslims. Allah is the Lord of all that exists and not of the middle east only.
There's no evidence for your assertion.

Evidence?

There is nothing like “Semitic language”. Semitic is a group of people with different languages. And that Allah name comes from one of the group, hence one of the language in Semitic known as “Aramaic” language.
Both Arabic and Hebrew comes from Aramaic.
You are worshipping a Semitic god from the Middle East.

When was Jesus born? When was Mohamed born?

AntiChristian:


Yeah! Allah is the name of Allah He called himself in the Qur'an over 1400 years! Jehovah on the other was created from YHVH about one or two centuries ago. They can't be the same as Allah is Allah no one bears this name on earth nor does delegates His duties of being God to others. All comes to Him as a slave in subservience and worship.

The Israelite knew Moses to be a Prophet of God as stated in Deut 18:15 restated in Acts 3:22. And Deut. 34:10 says; There has never again been a prophet in Israel like Moses.

So it is more established even in your Bible that Moses was a Prophet (not God as Yahweh) and neither was Jesus if he was also a Prophet like Moses! So the god Moses was called is not literal but symbolic or figurative.

“Allah” got his name and origin from Aramaic, surprisingly “El” also got his name from there, you guys are worshipping the gods of the Middle East. Yahweh na one small god for Canaan before he was upgraded and featured in the Bible.

haekymbahd:
Yes. In the absence of an appointed imam any Muslim male present may lead the prayer, though the custom is to grant the privilege to the eldest or the one most-versed in the Qur’an. The fact the he is Shi’a does not invalidate the prayer. What is not accepted is innovation (bidahj) in prayer. If the leader started to utter words contrary to the Qur’an and Sunnah he must be dismissed immediately and another candidate found for the post.

So he has to use the sunnah which is specific for Sunni Muslims?
Why can’t he use Shia practices to pray?
The same way you have set of rules on how to pray, is the same way these other doctrines have too.

you want a Catholic to go pray in a Jehovah witness church yet you won’t allow a Shia Muslim to lead prayers in a Sunni mosque using his own mode of praying.

haekymbahd:
Allah SWT said:

"And let there be [arising] from you a nation inviting to [all that is] good, enjoining what is right and forbidding what is wrong, and those will be the successful."
(QS. Aal-i-Imraan 3: Verse 104)

A Muslim can worship in any mosque in the world can you as a Christian go to any church to worship.

Can a Shia Muslim lead prayers in a sunni mosque?

tctrills:
Why do you think so. He created man to overcome sin. Hence man had to experience sin.

Then why send the sinner to hell and you still haven’t answered me, how did Adam sin?
who gave man his “sin nature”?

Different Bible editions and versions. different meanings

tctrills:
It depends on how you see it. But yes for the plan of God to come to pass there most be offences. However, I don't understand why you call it a game.

Your god created man to sin. He’s a sadistic god, and can’t be the one that created this earth. Talk more of the universe. It’s a story my bro don’t take the book literally.

tctrills:
God knew Adam would sin even before creating the world. The bible states that Christ was a Lamb slain before the foundations of the world. The coming of Christ to die for our sins was not an afterthought. It is the original plan.

So how did Adam sin?, since Adam Sinning was part of the grand plan.
Your god created Adam to sin so his plan can come true. He is just looking for who to blame, your god is playing games.

NIV— New International VERSION, it’s called a VERSION for a reason. At least they were truthful about that.

Kobojunkie:
God's command was clear.. the day, He sinned, He would die in that day. Adam sinned and God condemned Him in die - from dust you, Adam, were made, and to dust you, Adam, would be returned. So, what forgiveness did God promise Adam given that forgiveness is itself as promised by God not arbitrarily obtained?

Before Adam was created, your god didn’t know Adam will sin?
If he knew Adam will sin, yet still went ahead to create Adam to sin, and is now crying foul that Adam sinned. Lol

Hismasterpiece:
So you are a Christian but you don't believe the Bible is the Word of God but you believe it is merely a work of fiction?

A believer shouldn’t know the origin of the book he is reading? He should just remain ignorant of it? If the word of god is true, why is word of good afraid of clarity?

peggywebbs:
The fact that you haven't experienced something does not make it non-existent. Even scientists will never deny demonic activity hence you see documentary about paranormal activity. There are movies and books based on true live accounts of demon possession. So it's not you whose fiddling with your PC or smartphone that should be an authority on this topic.

You shouldn't be too quick to rule it out but I also pray you don't experience it. It's a very painful experience and one that leaves people miserable for years if nothing is done.

All religion says this same thing, just as science said, why did you now believe only science and Christianity?
Islam and ifa religion also talks about these demonic activities.

Shameless liar

Hismasterpiece:
Wait.. are you even a believer sef?

A believer shouldn’t know the origin of the book he reads?

tctrills:
God

So how did adam sin?

You both are right. But there’s nothing like “yhvh” it’s foreign in the Hebrew Bible, it’s “yhwh” elated177
Elohim and Yahweh are different. But Elohim is the father of Yahweh, so elohim na still papa.. but this elohim guy forgot that “EL” - is another “God”
your God “EL elohim” is just a god under him. “Allah” too is gotten from this “EL”.


You guys are worshipping the “gods” of the Middle East, it’s a shame.

tctrills:
Question, Was Adam a bad person?
Answer, Not really, he made a choice like the rest of us and with the choice came consequences.

Question; Would he be forgiven by God.
Answer; Like the rest of us, he is also entitled to forgiveness.

Who created Adam?

AntiChristian:
You are the one wailing here. And i'm not mocking Jesus here at all. Jesus wailed at those Bible verses in the given context. Is Jesus's wailing inappropriate or how is that counted as mocking the Biblical Jesus?



Great men under the influence of inspiration!

Was Luke under such influence when he said:
Many have undertaken to draw up an account of the things that have been fulfilled among us, just as they were handed down to us by those who from the first were eyewitnesses and servants of the word. With this in mind, since I myself have carefully investigated everything from the beginning, I too decided to write an orderly account for you, most excellent Theophilus, so that you may know the certainty of the things you have been taught.
Luke 1:1-4

This verse summarizes your Bible that people were just writing about things that happened as they received it from unnamed eyewitnesses....

I hope you are as critical to Islam as you are to Christianity.

How many Bible VERSIONS dey??
This wan na version of a version, this ESV VERSION is translated from King James VERSION(William tyndale). The ESV Bible was created by the Roman Catholic. Lol there’s a silent battle going on between the doctrines in Christianity.

sonmvayina:
It is so funny seeing grown ass men argue and trying to make sense out of nonsense....

If people agree that “God” is a title and not a person, it will make things easier, come with me:
There’s nothing like “God” in Arabic text. There’s nothing like “God” in Hebrew text.
So where did “God” come from?
If you are a a Christian you’ll know that New Testament was written in GREEK. Maybe that’s where the word came from, which was written as “Theo” but Old Testament was not written in Greek but Hebrew, so why did they equate “Theo(Greek)”to the character in the Old Testament? Shouldn’t they follow the pattern from old to new?

What’s “Theo” called in Hebrew?
Theo is different from Elohim.

So God or god or GOD or gOD anyhow they condition you to write it, as long as it is from Greek origin it’s very much different from the main characters protrayed in your book(Allah, Elohim, Yahweh)
You calling Allah or Yahweh a God(Theo) is even an insult lol.

Keenysbojan
You made a small mistake in your observation, when you said “Allah”, it’s an ARABIC word for “god” in islam as Quran was written in Arabic. But when you wanted to talk about the Christian god, you said “God” you didn’t also change it to the language they used in the Bible which was Hebrew.
God from theo is a Greek word, and that word is also derive from hebrew(Hebrew came before Greek) theo means “gift of god” in Hebrew, and “God”(they don’t speak English then) is written as “Elohim”
So when you say I believe in God(theo) you are saying I believe in gift of god.
So to continue your assessment, you have to compare Allah and Elohim. And don’t also forget that Elohim is different from “yahweh” and even more different from “Jehovah” created by “Jehovah” witnesses.

MaxInDHouse:
Here on Nairaland people quote people to reason with them on posts.
Below is my post you quoted this morning:



So you either say something in correlation with what you quoted or wait for others to do the needful, we appreciate that you don't HAVE (KNOW) anything to say about the post so it's OK!

Good morning, Worshipper of Jehovah aka William Tyndale.
You still never talk wetin dey pain you.

MaxInDHouse:
WISDOM greets you!

Courtesy Jehovah, William Tyndale and association(s).

MaxInDHouse:
Remember to greet me tomorrow too because you must take a bow before WISDOM daily!

I told you: i pass you no be ṣeré ṣeré!

Okay, worshipper of Jehovah aka William Tyndale
Good morning again.

MaxInDHouse:
I told you already that you will go round and round throughout Nairaland and you can never find WISDOM elsewhere except with one of Jehovah's Witnesses.
So continue trailing me so you can acquire WISDOM!

You never tell me wetin dey pain you.
Shey na the “good morning”?

Yes. “Jehovah” which is not found in the Hebrew Bible, but in the king James VERSION and which also was coincidentally created by a “Jehovah” witness.

MaxInDHouse:
Out of all Nairalanders you wake up since morning and the one and only person you feel like greeting is MaxInDHouse!

Well you must acknowledge WISDOM whether you like it or not!

Yes, you are the first person I said “good morning” to, is that now a crime?
Is it the “good morning” that’s paining you ? Or there’s another reason?

I already acknowledged William Tyndale as your Jehovah.
When will watchtower release another edition of the Bible?

MaxInDHouse:
Can you really do without mentioning me?
Please i'll appreciate it if you can avoid my posts but if there's something tangible you have to say then let's share it.
Remember i'm one of Jehovah's Witnesses, we love sharing our thoughts with FRIENDS but if there's nothing to share then i don't think there's any need for a greeting.
This is Nairaland where hundreds of thousands are commenting, if you aren't greeting others then why me?

All this because I said “good morning” didn’t you say we are friends, you the one that first called me your friend.
Why are you this pained because I said “good morning” to a fellow friend ?

Yes I remember that You are a worshipper of William Tyndale.

MaxInDHouse:
Still trailing me!

By telling you good morning? I thought we are friends?
Is it the “good morning” that’s paining you?

MaxInDHouse:
Thought provoking question!

There's just one human race but due to ethnic and language barrier we have created artificial racism among ourselves.
The one and only creature with the ability to think, speak and improve in things we do are humans. All other creatures have remained the same way they are for thousands of years so the book (Bible) has something worthwhile in it when it says:

Then God said: “Let us make man in our image, according to our likeness, and let them have in subjection the fish of the sea and the flying creatures of the heavens and the domestic animals and all the earth and every creeping animal that is moving on the earth.” And God went on to create the man in his image, in God’s image he created him; male and female he created them. Further, God blessed them, and God said to them: “Be fruitful and become many, fill the earth and subdue it, and have in subjection the fish of the sea and the flying creatures of the heavens and every living creature that is moving on the earth.” Genesis 1:26-28

But there's is something we must totally avoid if we're to continue living together as one big and happy race of human family:
We mustn't set standards for right and wrong from our own thinking, we must solely rely on God! Genesis 2:17

Today there are so many religions due to what each nation knew so far but apart from the book Bible none of all these religionists from different nations knew what's been causing the troubles within the human society: POLITICS.
This is what resulted from man's rebellion ever since the first human pair decided to start setting standards within the human society.

Now back to your question!
The purpose or importance of a widespread religion should be to unite all nations under one umbrella to form one big and happy family of peace loving worshipers on a global scale! Isaiah 2:2-4; Micah 4:1-3

Today this has been achieved as Jehovah's Witnesses have used the Bible to gather people from different races throughout the earth, taught them to submit (willingly) to the same line of thought, and they have diverted all their resources into the production of food and information materials, they have vowed never to make or raise weapons against their fellowman again and as for military services used by POLITICIANS this group have said goodbye! Isaiah 2:2-4

This is the importance of a widespread religion and Jesus of Nazareth commissioned a global campaign so that obedient humans from all the earth may be gathered to achieve this! Matthew 28:18-20

Thanks, may you have PEACE!

Worhsipper of William tyndale, good morning

peggywebbs:
Sorry are you concerned about theo or atheism because you're leaving out the whole error. Lol. Go back to your argument on the origin of atheism... you even have your favourite Google screenshot there.

Theo has nothing to do with atheism.... you either intentionally left the "atheo" or you're clueless.

Dunce didn’t know that the “a” means “without” and the “Theo” means god. If you don’t understand this simple thing, how can understand the Bible?
If you have knowledge on this things you won’t be messing up, you’ve been exposed. You haven’t read a book on this issue.
Fake imitator like your Yahweh thinks “atheos” is a whole different word. Dunce didn’t know that atheos is LITERALLY derived from theos, this is common sense.
You are a shameless liar!

I’m still waiting for you to tell me the title of the book you read and saw “Zeus, is a god of thunder”. Arrogant illiterate.


peggywebbs

peggywebbs:
Here are your words... since you obviously don't know the meaning of liar. It seems you just came across the word

https://www.nairaland.com/post/112086014

What does “NOT believing in theos” mean? Is it not atheism(atheos)? Is theo not a Greek word? You lack knowledge.
You are the arrogant illiterate.

Mention the title of those “legitimate book” you read on Greek gods, you are a shameless liar.

peggywebbs

peggywebbs:
Good night... you're a confirmed illiterate.

Goodnight….. you are the real illiterate and a shameless liar. If not that, where is theo from where is atheos from? Are they not both Greek? Derived from each other . You are a dunce. You’ve been exposed now you are grabbing to straws, bringing another thread to this, yet you lack knowledge to understand what I said.
What does “NOT believing in theos” mean? Is it not atheism(atheos).. and you claimed to know this after reading thousand pages
You are just learning about these new words today.

You still haven’t told me about the imaginary books that you read about Greek gods, mention their name.

peggywebbs