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violent:
^^^

who sold em to you?

i want some too and i want it badly!!

you will be surprised to find out how popular the thing that was sold to him is getting among the masses.
very soon it will be a decriminalized commodity.

chic2pimp:
The Anderson I watched during the under 17 worldcup in 2005 was extremely skilful. Don't know where all that skill has gone though.

it has been coached out of him.very painful but true.
it is the same case with Mikel Obi.
If you ever watched him in 05 at that youth cup in Holland,you will not believe how much harm Mourinho did to the boy.
The destruction is almost clinical.
Maybe one day, Fergie will be able to shed light on what exactly he was trying to achieve with Anderson.
Also, i think the lad is a bit distracted off the field.it is not easy.

coogar:
mbuela, can you read that?

that was how many years ago?
so he is no longer pacy(if he ever was).
so why list it among his qualities?
it is not like a cv where you include career history.i am asking about what he brings to the table now.

Skii:
@1025

I dont even know where to start from with you

I am still reeling with shock over the allegations against Ryan Giggs, the possibility of truth,the gravity and the possible effect on Manchester United

I am also wondering what the world is coming to?

Bill Clinton, Jacob Zuma, Arnold, Dominic Strauss Kahn, and now Giggs (if true),

Mehn

Is this some funny joke?
that man is in a class all by himself.

coogar:
so you don't think anderson can dribble, pacy, has guile and comfy in possession? i am not even sure we are discussing the same player any more.
feed your eyes on his youtube clips.

Anderson dribble? pacy?
I give up.
Anyone can look good on youtube,even Jermaine Jenas.

^^
i will watch that clip when i get out of here.
I will readily pay to watch Berba play in the park on a sunday morning.
He would be allowed to take gays at intervals as he wishes.
His ability on the ball is mesmerizing.

coogar:
composure
dribbling ability
speed

guile
verve
panache
aggression
comfortable in possession.

should i say more?

you are such a funny guy.
did you keep a straight face while typing this?

coogar:
he said so. . . . .read the comments in quote. . . .he said maarten is now on top of their most wanted list. top is number one, mbuela.
stop arguing for the sake of it. rene told dutch radio that - and i have quoted what he said. it was after fergie spoke to edwin van der sar that rene's ratings shot up the most wanted list. of course, edwin must have rated maarten so highly.

My apologies.
i just read the quote you posted.

Never believe in it and never will.
A contraption created for societies where there is absence of ubuntu.

coogar:
you should concentrate more when reading. . . .

it wasn't the media that said so. . . . rene meulesteen made that quote that maarten is on top of united's wanted list.

He did not say that.at least in the reports i read all he did was ay that he was one of those they were looking at.

coogar:
injuries hamper a player's learning curve. . . . .it stalls the development. see fabio and rafael's case. with fabio getting more games under his belt, the natural order has been restored and fans can now see fabio is less rash and more composed than rafael. anderson is a wicked player - scoring goals is a good thing but i think it shouldn't be the only yardstick to judge a player. anderson influences the game his impact is often positive. as an aside, iniesta has only scored 25 league goals for barcelona in 9 seasons. that's less than 3 goals per season. . . . .would you swap him for lampard or gerrard?

i have not mentioned goal scoring as a paramount yardstick,so i am not knocking him for that.although it would have helped his cause.
kindly state a few qualities of Anderson that made you arrive at the bold comment above.

coogar:
so fergie spoke to vds about stekelenburg and the ajax goalie shot to the top of united's wanted list. . . . .do we need a pda to work-out what vds told ferguson?

i think it is the other way round.
he was on the short list and fergie spoke to VDS about him, the same way he spoke to Forlan and Ronaldo about De Gea.
the issue of who is at the top of the list is pure media speculation.
everyone on that shortlist has been flavour of the month with the media at one point of the the transfer specualtion or the other.

RuuDie:
It was kinda disappointing & very painful to see how the lads fared against Barca ~ the huge gulf in class was very evident. . . .bottomline, if we want to be champions of europe, we have to get some good players in & build a more solid unit!

Names we are constantly linked with - Ashley young, Jack Rodwell. . . !!? I don't know - maybe in the EPL, they are good but when we go out into the continent we need players who can mix it with the very best of 'em. . . .keeping my fingers crossed to see what kinda squad we parade next term!

very depressing indeed.
with the midfield we have in the youth team what do we need Rodwell for?
if he can't get into the everton 1st 11 on a permanent basis how will he get into ours?

coogar:
the assumption is nowhere silly but if you saw anderson in 2007/8 for united partnering hargreaves at the emirates(ranked the best football match since the premier league started by andy gray of sky sports) and at anfield(reducing stevie gerrard to a child throwing temper tantrums) then you wouldn't be questioning anderson's ability. his form may be choppy since then(he's suffered enough injuries in that period) but the brazilian is class.

he stepped up his game in the final lap

is Anderson your definition of class?
he stepped up his game but that level is hugely inadequate for a united regular.
as a squad player,fine.
the problem is that fergie says that Anderson is the sort of player who needs to be playing regularly to be at his best.
unfortunately, i doubt we have the space in the middle for him to do that presently.
his apprentice can be done elsewhere.
that midfield needs proven talent,now.

rene meulensteen(first team coach) told dutch radio vds personally told fergie he wants stekelenburg to replace him.

meulensteen:

Quote
"Stekelenburg is indeed a keeper who is at the top of our wanted list," Meulensteen is reported to have told Dutch radio.

"We naturally talk a lot among ourselves about who should replace Van der Sar. Alex Ferguson has spoken about Stekelenburg with Edwin, and that does not seem strange to me at all."


still a rumour?

Haba!! this deduction is too far fetched.
Fergie spoke to VDS because he knows Stekelenburg from close quarters.VDS put in a good word because he is a good keeper.
Fergie cannot speak to VDS about Pepe Reina or De Gea because he does not know anything about those.
How this translates to prefering Stekelenburg is a bit too far fetched.
The radio folks were just spinning,nothing short ofthat.

lucabrasi:
i want a better quality of life,met a couple of people in nigeria earnng less than i do yet had housemaids,drivers and more disposable income

i don't even know where to start with this quote.
unfortunately,i am unable to comment extensively on this thread

what do you expect the govt to do if these were the only willing buyers?

coogar:
if you think this season was vds' best season with us then you should stop smoking weed. . . . .he made plenty of howlers especially in the final lap of the season. mistakes after mistakes. 2 of the goals barca scored(pedro and messi) were shots vds would have saved in 2008.

kindly list 4 of these mistakes after mistakes.
thank you

coogar:
if you think this season was vds' best season with us then you should stop smoking weed. . . . .he made plenty of howlers especially in the final lap of the season. mistakes after mistakes. 2 of the goals barca scored(pedro and messi) were shots vds would have saved in 2008.

he had a weakness that players/teams were beginning to take advantage off. his dives to the left got worse and worse. . . .

de gea will make mistakes but at 22, those mistakes can be corrected. vds at 40 isn't trainable. . . . .david de gea wouldn't even be my preferred choice in goal. i think stekelenburg is a better bet(like vds also claims).

How does the insult in bold validate your argument?
Are you unable to discuss and argue like an adult?
Look, i did not tell you that this was VDS best season.these are my arguments;
1. He has his weak points like every top keeper in the world.
2. In the final season of his career at the age of 40 he was still easily among the 5 best keepers in Europe.
3. You can count his howlers this season on one hand and he won us more points than he lost us (i can only think of one in the league).
4. if any one was culpable for those two goals you refer to in the final,look no further than Patrice Evra who has talked the talk this season but being found wanting on it.He was AWOL at critical moments in those attacks that lead to the goals in question.
5. VDS had set such high standard that i can understand your dissapointment but lashing out at him in that manner is myopic in my view.
6. the claim about stekelenburg is a rumour.There is no direct quote from VDS on that.i challenge you to produce it.

No one knows the importance of VDS replacement like Fergie.whoever he chooses is a gamble.i hope it works out.

coogar:
you must have started watching man utd in 2010. rewind back to 2007/8 when anderson and hargreaves were the central midfielders. anderson played fabregas and gerrard off the park with his energy, industry and eye for a pass. he was doing very well until owen hargreaves got injured and his other partners in that midfield had no defined role(back then) to bring the best out of anderson. niggling injuries also played a part and his strength, confidence and belief got shattered. he was a better player than scholes in that season. . . .what completely ruined anderson's development was the exit of carlos quieroz. nani suffered the same fate too and fergie stuck to playing scholes/fletcher/carrick in the central midfield.

Very silly assumption in bold.
I wish you knew

Government ordained,legeslation backed, get rich quick scam for a privileged few.

unlike the Sente, at least this house seems independent for now.
i like how they told the PDP leadership where to stick stick there zoning abracada.
they should stick it where the sun doesn't shine.

coogar:
without carlos quieroz, we wouldn't have signed anderson(scholesy's replacement), nani(giggsy's replacement), da silva brothers(neville's replacement). quieroz was able to identify those players needed shipping out as far back as 07/08 but the moment queiroz left, fergie went back to his old ways. there was a time nani and anderson stopped progressing in their development especially in the 08/09 season - nani wanted out, anderson was also engineering a move back to porto. . . . .then ronaldo left and nani started featuring prominently and the rest was history. now that scholesy's gone, just watch anderson next season - debarring any injury - his name will come up in the pfa team nominees.

now on edwin. . . .

vds had to go. smart players/managers found him out towards the end of the season. at 40, it was natural for vds or any goalie to start showing weaknesses. just like we have right footed and left footed players. . . . .players also have a stronger side when heading a ball coming from the right or from the left. in equal measure, goalies also have a stronger side when diving to the left or diving to the right. unfortunately, vds weakness was diving to the left.

i saw a clip where one of the barca rookies said pep told his players to always aim vds left hand side and aim low. it was no surprise all the goals barca scored were to vds' left. the most obvious was david villa's first goal. he could have shot to the right as his balance was not right. but he adjusted himself and still shot to the left and scored. looking back, i also remember adam of blackpool scoring a scorcher and it was the same left side of vds.

I never understand this argument (in bold).if that was the case how did they end up coaching out every bit of creativity in the poor lad?His shooting is criminal for a professional,his eye for a pass is nothing exceptional,he is the most one legged footballer i have seen in a long time.
how exactly is he Scholes replacement.

On the second bold part,you sound horribly myopic.
He had to go because he had his mind made up and it had to end someday.
Based on this seasons performance VDS was one of the best keepers in the world never mind EPL.
He had a weakness,so what?
who does not?telling me Valdes is faultless?the truth is we did not have the opportunity to expose valdes.
VDS going because he had the aforementioned weaknesses is a bit of a joke.
De Gea will come and make mistakes,anyone will.
what we need is a top class keeper that earns us point while not costing us points (like Gomez).
VDS had his weakness but he was still one of the best till the end.

montelik:
I don't see d sense in keeping Owen, his role could easily be filled by Diouf, Macheda, Welbeck, King. But I do think we need a striker proficient at playing as a lone striker. We haven't had one since we lost Ruud and Saha. There were times last season when we needed one but none of d present lot is comfortable in that position. If we properly sort out central midfield and d wings then we won't not need a signing, but if we don't we might need one.

i see sense in keeping Owen, he will be used sparingly and it is expected that when used he can and will deliver.Diouf is not up to scratch, for all it is worth Wellbeck still has some way to go.Macheda will not come back to United.he will simply return from Samp as his contract dictates but he will be out before pre season ends.he has no future iin the club.He was woeful at Samp and that nailed his case.
the problem with gettig a striker who can play one up is that you can't get one who is good enough for that role to sit on the bench until such a situation arises.
you just can't have enough players for all scenarions.not even barca have that.
the sticking point at the moment is what fergie does about Berba.That is a critical matter.the problem is that Fergie does not trust him enough (with good reason), Berba thrives on trust,he does not readily fit into the system that has been found to work but the fact is that he is a plan B worth having.how often will that plan B be needed, i don't know.

^^^
everyday, i wake up hoping it is a bad dream.
18 million for an england internation with all there technical limitations.
is this how we want to compete with barca?
you can do so much more with 18 million in the continent.
forget young and break the bank for Modric.
make Levy an offer he can't refuse.

Giggs is not holding anyone back.
the rest of the midlfield are just not good enough.
I wil never be convinced about Anderson.in my view,he will not make at united.his game has been so altered that he can't be good enough in the new role and it is almost too late to revert back (read Mikel Obi).
Gibson,Obertan.who exactly is Giggs holding back?
if SAF buys two world class midlfielders,Giggs will play start less than 15 games this new season and it will not be a massive disappointment.
i see no reason why SAF should not buy 2 world class midfielders this season.
A creative midflieder and someone to bench carrick.

Gibson on his way to Sunderland or Wolves.
Obertan out on loan.
Aanderson to the gym,so he can lose some weight around his back side.Charlie Adam almost looks fitter than him and that is no compliment.

[quote author=Mr_TA link=topic=567773.msg8453490#msg8453490 date=1307193033]Its amazing how people can deduce completely different things from looking at the same scenario. We arent going to agree on this ( although, I agree with your part about CQ) Ive always felt baba needs a good strong number two and not the slaphead yes man in shortnika sitting next to him. [/quote]i could punch phelan's sour face all day.
The man is the most nepotic appointment Fergie has ever made.
It is similar to the Pat Rice situation at Emirates.
Assistants who just kiss their bosses a ss and bring absolutely nothing to the table.
Considering SAF personality, he needs a no. 2 who is not just strong in personality but has a respected and deep well of tactical nous.
Fergie might be strong headed but he is wise enough to accomodate a man who brings deep expertise and continental flavour.
Phelan is completely useless.
I assume SAF brought him in cos he assumed he will be leaving soon and did not want another CQ kind of person who will be a potential successor.
fortunately SAF has stayed longer than even he himself imagined and we are stuck with that inept soul called Phelan.

[quote author=Kilode?! link=topic=343996.msg8460612#msg8460612 date=1307303057]After reading the recently passed FOI bill, I had to dig up this thread.

The bill will be a useless document if our journalists don't step up their game. For now there's a lot to be afraid of.

Although I Must say I'm glad we have a few good journalists and investigative reporters especially at Olojede's 234next, we definitely need more, else these politicians and public servants will continue to eat our lunch while pissing in our mouths.

Our people need to be better informed. Smart, dedicated, fair and professional journalism is key.[/quote]unfortunately, NEXT will soon be extinct.

this thread is giving me a headache.

06 Jun 2011

After serving for nearly three years as spokesman to late President Umaru Musa Yar’Adua and one year in the United States as a Research Scholar at the Weatherhead Center for International Affairs, Harvard University, Mr. Olusegun Adeniyi has been appointed the Chairman of the editorial board.

Adeniyi, who returned to the country from the US at the weekend, replaces Alhaji Yusuph Olaniyonu, who is currently on a sabbatical.

Adeniyi, who was until May 2007 the editor of THISDAY, will also resume his very popular weekly column, The Verdict According to Olusegun Adeniyi, which was last published exactly four years ago this week.

A 1989 graduate of International Relations from Obafemi Awolowo University, Ile-Ife with a Master’s in International Law and Diplomacy from the University of Lagos, Adeniyi began his journalism career as a Staff Reporter at The Guardian in December 1990 and moved to the now rested African Concord magazine in April 1992 as a Senior Staff Writer.

In September of the same year, he became the magazine’s Abuja Bureau Chief and State House Correspondent. In 1995, he joined Sunday Concord as Assistant Editor.

He joined THISDAY in January 1999 as Deputy Editor of the Sunday Newspaper. A year later, he became the editor of the Saturday newspaper. In 2001, he became the Editor of the Sunday newspaper and in 2005, he was appointed THISDAY editor, a position he occupied until he left to join the Yar’Adua government as Special Adviser on Communications.

A founding member of the National Stakeholder Working Group of Nigeria Extractive Industries Transparency Initiative (NEITI), Adeniyi is married with three children.

At Harvard where he just completed a Fellow’s programme, he conducted his research on the factors that shape incumbent presidential elections in Africa.

Meanwhile, Constance Chigor Ikokwu, former Editor, Nation’s Capital, has been appointed the new Editorial Page Editor. She replaces Monday Philips-Ekpe who is on study leave.

Ikokwu holds a degree in Political Science and a Master’s Degree in International Law & International Relations from the United Kingdom. She also received professional training in the United States of America and whilst in Kenya attended the Reuters Course on International Reporting.

Her journalism career has taken her from Nigeria where she has reported on various election issues, to Africa, Europe and the Americas. She has reported on nuclear power, immigration, war, the WTO Doha Round and trade multilateralism. In 2006, Ikokwu covered the second round of DR Congo’s first election in 40 years and filed reports from war-torn Sudan on a separate assignment.

Ikokwu was the Washington, DC Bureau Chief for THISDAY between 2007 and 2009. As such she has interviewed global statesmen and women and heads of multilateral institutions such as the World Trade Organisation (WTO) Director General Pascal Lamy and the International Trade Center (ITC) Executive Director Patricia Francis.

While in the US, she covered the historic 2008 primaries and presidential election that produced the first African-American President, Barack Obama. She reported Africa-related news from the leading political and economic institutions including: the White House, US Congress, World Bank, the International Monetary Fund (IMF) and the United Nations (UN).

Ikokwu is a political analyst and social critic. She is a commentator for the National Public Radio (NPR) US. She has spoken at forums at the American University, John Hopkins University, Indiana University, Purdue University Indianapolis, George Washington University, the National Press Club, the Cosmos Club and the Foreign Press Center (FPC) US.

She is the editor of Nigeria: Half a Century of Progress & Challenges.


http://www.thisdaylive.com/articles/adeniyi-returns-appointed-thisday-editorial-board-chairman/92733/

• Six Premier League players involved in Nigeria's 4-1 win
• Argentina get penalty in the eighth of five added minutes

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Staff and agencies
The Guardian, Saturday 4 June 2011
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Nigeria's Uche Ikechukwu is challenged by Argentina's Insúa Emiliano in a match that is being investigated by Fifa. Photograph: Sunday Alamba/AP
A match between Nigeria and Argentina is being investigated by Fifa after unusual betting patterns suggested it had been targeted by match-fixers. "Fifa can confirm that this match between Nigeria and Argentina was one that we had an active interest in and forms part of a wider Fifa investigation," a spokesman for the world governing body told the Daily Telegraph.

Concerns were raised about betting patterns during Wednesday's game, which was won 4-1 by Nigeria in Abuja, specifically before the final goal was scored.

With Nigeria 4-o ahead there was a huge swing on some in-play markets which appeared to anticipate a fifth goal. Five minutes of stoppage time were awarded but play continued beyond that and the referee awarded a 98th-minute penalty to Argentina for handball.

Replays suggest the penalty was awarded after the ball bounced up off the lower leg of a Nigeria defender. The referee indicated that he adjudged the ball to have struck a hand. Mauro Boselli scored from the spot.

"There had been some crazy moves on the in-running market early in the game," Matthew Benham of SmartOdds, an online betting firm, said. "With 86 minutes played the odds for 4.50 [a fifth goal to be scored] were absolutely insane. The market was effectively saying it was odds against that there would be no more goals. It is hard to get an exact figure for how much would have been bet to force that kind of swing but we are certainly talking hundreds of thousands, possibly more than £1,000,000."

Six players from Premier League clubs were involved in the fixture an understrength Argentina were captained by Manchester City's Pablo Zabaleta.

Chelsea's Mikel John Obi and Everton's Victor Anichebe were also part of the Nigeria squad. Boselli (Wigan Athletic), Mauro Formica (Blackburn Rovers) and Damián Martínez (Arsenal) were in the Argentina squad. No players are thought to be under suspicion.

Fifa

Fifa confirmed that it "will be working closely with colleagues at the Fifa Early Warning System" to see the unusual fluctuations in betting patterns and how they tally with its wider investigation. "Fifa is receiving lots of information and co-operation across Europe, Asia, Africa and South and Central America, and as an organisation we are committed to tackling this problem in the most vigorous way possible," a spokesman said.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2011/jun/04/nigeria-argentina-fifa-betting-patterns