Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Meliforme: 1:46pm On Apr 10, 2023 |
JohnBullMySon: Till tomorrow nobody can explain this. The explanation has already been given. |
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Meliforme: 7:11pm On Mar 30, 2023 |
do4luv14: I beg to disagree thank you What are your disagreements |
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Meliforme: 3:32pm On Mar 30, 2023 |
Blueelf: Loll
I doubt you saw him play bro
Victor Moses is one of our most intelligent wingers in recent times
Dude knew how to cross a ball to save his life All our current wingers have the ability to change the outcome of a match. We have seen that over and over. Victor Moses might not do better than Moses Simon and Chukwueze under the same playing personnel, but how can we even say that when we are yet to witness it. Our current pattern of play can be very disjointed. |
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Meliforme: 3:31pm On Mar 30, 2023 |
Blueelf: Loll
I doubt you saw him play bro
Victor Moses is one of our most intelligent wingers in recent times
Dude knew how to cross a ball to save his life |
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Meliforme: 3:24pm On Mar 30, 2023 |
Blueelf: Loll
I doubt you saw him play bro
Victor Moses is one of our most intelligent wingers in recent times
Dude knew how to cross a ball to save his life How many chances did Chukwueze create in the just concluded match. If Chukwueze has the coordination in play that Victor Moses during his stint enjoyed, you will be telling a different story. |
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Meliforme: 2:04pm On Mar 30, 2023 |
COOL10: Even Victor Moses' biggest critics know the truth. They can't argue about his performance especially when he played as a winger.
Whenever I saw that guy in the starting lineup for the Eagles, my mind would immediately be at rest. He could single handedly change any game. Whenever he got on the ball, you knew something exciting was gonna happen.
He knew when to dribble, when to pass, when to shoot, when to fall down in the box and roll twenty times just to get a penalty , and he also knew when to cross. THE BASICS!!!. That's something that majority of our current wingers lack.
Just look at the games against Cameroon and Algeria. Look at how he embarrassed their defenders. The closest thing we have right now to a Victor Moses is Ademola Lookman, but he's yet to live up to it in the National team colours. I did not talk down on Victor Moses, he is one of the big names in Nigerian football. What i cannot bear to see, is someone making our current wingers look less, using different contexts to make comparisons that are not informed. Comparing Ademola Lookman to Victor Moses is another comparison you should not have brought up because both players are very different in what they bring to the table. Victor Moses has techniques that helps him contribute to defense, cross the ball etc, you can't say the same for Ademola Lookman, however, Ademola Lookman is a better goalscorer, has good anticipation and movement around the 18 yard box, those are some of the reasons why both are used differently on the pitch. Bright Osayi Samuel is a player you can actually compare to Victor Moses. |
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Meliforme: 12:55pm On Mar 30, 2023 |
daveP: What I'm pissed at most in his post is he saying Mikel and Onazi helped him majorly. Maybe he didn't watch VicMo. That guy will singlehandedly run from defence and do wonders, MOSTLY by himself, influencing game outcomes with his intelligence. These current ones can't lace his boots till 20whatever. Unless the improve by far. So singlehandedly running from defence to attack doing wonders, makes him a fantastic player? even at that, cite two instances were those has happened, i can recall one, and the circumstances that led to it, under similar circumstances, we have better runners, better dribblers and better finishers in our current wingers than we have in Victor Moses. The current S.E setup, is making our wingers produce less than they would. |
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Meliforme: 12:27pm On Mar 30, 2023 |
COOL10: Victor Moses has a record of 12 goals and 5 assists in just 37 games for Nigeria. For a winger, that's an impressive record. Show me a Nigerian winger that has a better record.
And please, did you really compare Victor Moses' style of play and his creativity with the likes of Moses Simon and Chukwueze? 😳😳
Chai, what won't I read on this thread?🤣🤦🏽♂️🤣🤦🏽♂️ I have made it clear on this thread, the difference between Victor Moses wing role to that of the wingers we now parade. Victor Moses unique attributes makes him an excellent wingback, while Chukwueze and co are good wing forwards. Victor Moses have been tried on the roles Chukwueze and co now ply and was found not as productive. The stats are there for the lookup. |
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Meliforme: 2:34pm On Mar 29, 2023 |
COOL10: Almost five years since Victor Moses left and we're yet to find a credible replacement. Moses Simon, Chukwueze, Dennis, Onyekuru; none of those guys has managed to fill his boots. Victor Moses boots belongs to Victor Moses, they don't need to fill it. Victor Moses boots might be too tight or oversize. For the roles these players do for club and country, they do it better than what Victor offers. For the reckoning, They aforementioned players have more speed and movement, finishing, dribbling skills and creativity. Do not also forget that Victor Moses abilities in S.E were accentuated more by the presence of Onazi and Mikel in midfield. |
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Meliforme: 10:01pm On Mar 27, 2023 |
IS PESEIRO REALLY A BAD COACH.
The points below should enlighten your reasoning to make or not to make the conclusion regarding Peseiro's phenomenon as the coach well suited for the job.
The CB pairing of Bassey and Akpoguma. When i saw Peseiro's choice of CB's in Akpoguma and Bassey, i momentarily lost hope in Peseiro's ability to genuinely know our players. This kind of decision making will definitely prove very costly in the offing. Even though he righted this wrong in the second leg, but how on earth did he come about such decision in the first place
Depleting an already limited midfield to give Osimhen a partner that he doesn't even need.. There are good reasons for pairing strikers, Osimhen is not that kind of striker (i will explain this maybe in another post). This was very obvious in the first leg against G. Bissau.
Featuring Moses Simon and Samuel Chukwueze in roles they are not best suited. While he is not the only coach guilty of this, he is supposed to be an upgrade. Moses Simon and Samuel Chukwueze's behaviours on the pitch is typical of inverted wingers or forwards. Their involvement in build up plays is very secondary, they are usually at the receiving end. They are meant to receive the ball in zones and in situations where their trademark dribbling maneuvers will either give them a shooting chance at goal, or make a final pass. This is what they know how to do best, why not use them that way.
Those may or may not be good reasons to label him a bad coach, but one thing is very sure, they don't accentuate good hope in him. |
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Meliforme: 7:32pm On Mar 27, 2023 |
These were the conversation that ensued between me and BannedLarge, where i told him the best CB's we have now. BannedLarge: Ajax can afford to play at at Lb but we can’t because he is our best available CB Meliforme: He is not BannedLarge: If he isn’t presently our best CB then who is If dem born you well mention balogun, Akpoguma, ekong, awaziem or semi ajayi. Tell us who is presently our best CB…. The problem with Nigerians is that, we exaggerate our players ability and always believe that, there are world class players at our disposal Meliforme: Awaziem, Balogun, Omeruo. I don't come about these conclusions out of nowhere. |
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Meliforme: 3:45pm On Mar 27, 2023 |
AndSunGorilla: Who we go deploy to the RB? bameyi? Akpoguma can play RB. |
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Meliforme: 3:43pm On Mar 27, 2023 |
REASONS WHY PESEIRO SHOULD ADOPT A FRONT THREE AGAINST GUINEA BISSAU
All the invited forwards thrive better when involved in the final phase or phases of attack (goalscoring) rather than in the build up to it. A 4-4-2 system converts some of these forwards to wingers who are more involved in the buildup to goal, thereby not utilising them to the best of their strengths. Moses Simon and Samuel Chukwueze have of late, seen improvements in their game that has made them somewhat a noticeable exception, as they seem more involved in play build up, even at that they have shown to be more efficient in a 4-3-3 as inverted wingers than as wingers in a 4-4-2 setup. Their performances for club and country as part of both setups further enlightens the degree of their usefulnesses for the roles. They have shown to thrive better as inverted wingers.
Osimhen thrives better as a lone center forward.
High pressing A front three will enable a more intense pressing against the backline of G. Bissau and can force them into errors. A high pressing against their fullbacks might prevent their long ball strategy towards goalscoring. |
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Meliforme: 1:51pm On Mar 27, 2023 |
In my opinion and from what i have seen so far, coach Peseiro should employ a three-man midfield that has Iwobi, Ndidi and Osayi. |
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Meliforme: 1:37pm On Mar 27, 2023 |
It seemed like coach Peseiro wanted to make an Etebo out of Ndidi and was tilted towards the same strategy he used against Sao Tome and Principe, but it did not work. Etebo and Ndidi cannot be substituted one for another. I saw the stuff Ndidi was trying to pull, Ndidi will remain Ndidi. Very good at what he does and that it is. Ndidi can evolve and improve, he is getting there, but a lot of work he needs to put in. The burden of play progression and control shouldn't be left on the shoulders of one player (Iwobi), you cannot do that especially when you are facing a team that is tactically set up to defend.
Etebo played a big role in the thrashing of Sao Tome and Principe. |
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Meliforme: 6:49pm On Mar 23, 2023 |
Truidstar: Simon is a waste of space Tbh. Iwobi should handle corner kicks duties. He delivers some sweet corners for Everton. The Moses Simon i have seen of late, is not a waste of space. Don't worry, you will see it |
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Meliforme: 6:46pm On Mar 23, 2023 |
TheSuperNerd: The Ideal front 3 right now indeed backed by a dynamically functional midfield 3 but nope, nothing dynamic about an Ndidi/Iwobi/Aribo/Onyeka midfield options selection. The limitations are much.
Peseiro is making the ex coach look like some hero.
And ofcos he would start Simon probably because he is gonna be matchday captain (in Ekong's absence), nothing else. Nerdie, have you seen Moses Simon of late, the improvements in his game is quite noticeable. Considering the quality of players in camp, i think he deserves a starting place in the front three, that is, if we are staging a front three. |
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Meliforme: 7:29pm On Mar 19, 2023*. Modified: 7:54pm On Mar 19, 2023 |
TheGoodJoe: Kelechi Nwakali was immmense yesterday and has started showing consistency which played a part in their win against Alaves yesterday.
Hope he keeps building on it. This is marvelous.12 out of 14 ground duels, won. 6 accurate long balls 2 accurate crosses. 100% dribbling success, 5/5. 1 key pass. Kelechi Nwakali is a complete midfielder. |
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Meliforme: 1:31am On Mar 16, 2023 |
TheSuperNerd: Dear Meliforme, the Analytical and the logical. Thanks so much great man. 🤝🏽🫶🏽 You are welcome, TheSuperNerd. |
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Meliforme: 8:05pm On Mar 15, 2023 |
TheSuperNerd: Thought I warned you all to note the name down.
Next time, pay closer attention.
Gift Orban is indeed our next big scoring machine. His shooting volume is crazy and the accuracy of his shooting even crazier.
Enjoy his rise.
Calma and watch things unfold...  So good to have you back TheSuperNerd, missed you greatly. |
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Meliforme: 5:33am On Mar 15, 2023 |
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Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Meliforme: 11:52am On Mar 11, 2023 |
chrisooblog: Hi everyone seems Supernerd sadly lost his dad recently. Please anyone close to him do kindly reach out to him. Comfort and condolences to you Supernerd aka doc. My condolences, TheSuperNerd. Please do take solacement in the truth that you will see him again, if he died in the Lord. |
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Meliforme: 1:20am On Mar 09, 2023 |
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Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Meliforme: 4:53am On Mar 07, 2023*. Modified: 10:29pm On Apr 10, 2023 |
Samueltemi337: And why exactly are you telling me this? did I say Nwakali was better? This is never about comparing leagues, nor plying the blind alley of sentiments. Truth be told, Kelechi is more talented than Joe Aribo. |
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Meliforme: 6:26pm On Feb 28, 2023 |
komekn: I will not say you are illiterate nonetheless, you simply have no idea.
I was going to post a few videos of Olise and Eze to give some of indication of their mercurial and unique talent.
But I cannot find any videos in recent times of anything about Nwakali, too many of Eze and Olise. I guess it's because they have too much in thier skill set to rely on long ball. You have at least acknowledged an area Nwakali excels over Olise and Eze. Please i beg you, can you name just one area Olise and Eze owns an edge over Nwakali as far as midfield duties are in the fore |
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Meliforme: 5:18pm On Feb 25, 2023 |
Danielnino00: I won't take the hyping too serious.. Nwakali isn't the first player that Thegoodjoe and Thesupernerd particularly have hyped well here.. It even appear more like encouragement than hyping... Players like Iheanacho and Osimhen were in such position when they were going through a rough phase in their careers.. Myabe because Nwakali own is taking too long that's why people find the hype annoying. But I can assure you, it's not just on this thread... I remember vividly after that Atletico Madrid game, so many fans on social media were clamoring for Nwakali to be in the world cup squad based on that performance.. Even when his name appeared in the AFCON list, there was jubilation in some quarters... Undoubtedly,many people remember how good he was back then ..
I agree, he hasn't hit the heights expected of him, but as far as the super eagles is concerned, especially the midfield, we need all hands on deck...if he was a striker, nobody would care because we have an abundance of strikers now... Maybe if we can land Eze or Oliseh this year, the talks of Nwakali getting called up will die down... Until then, let's not pretend that our midfield needs reinforcement and a player like Nwakali could be of help ..
When we were badly in need of a goalkeeper,Rohr went to the Spanish third division to fetch Uzoho...he also got Okoye from the German 4th division.. Jamilu Collins came to provide reinforcement at left back from the German second division too... The invitation of Eze and Olise will not end the clamour for Nwakali. Nwakali is a better midfielder than Eze and Olise. Eze and Olise are best suited for wing play. As far as our midfield is concerned, those guys have no place. I even prefer Olise to Eze. |
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Meliforme: 8:28pm On Feb 24, 2023 |
Meliforme: You should have known by now the man Komekn. I am not trying to belittle anyone, Komekn knows very little about the tactics of football, This is very true. There was a time he called Ademola Lookman a traditional winger. It may be that he has heard about the traditional winger role, and then decided to mix up Ademola Lookman with the traditional winger role. This and many more made me realise the man that Komekn is.
Komekn should do more of learning than talking. Komekn, please don't see this as disparaging, It might benefit you in some way, depending on how you have chosen to see it. |
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Meliforme: 8:23pm On Feb 24, 2023 |
TheGoodJoe:
This Ethan Nwaneri is not a dictator/conductor. You are just wasting time attacking Kelechi Nwakali, then end up exposing that you don't even understand the role of a midfield conductor.
Falling down in life is not the end of a man and no matter how much you try to paint a player bad, he can still pick himself up.
Your negativity against Osimhen, Iheanacho, Sadiq and others did not stop them from growing.
Your post of Ethan Nwaneri goes into the list of gaffes of yours.
Finito. |
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Meliforme: 8:16pm On Feb 24, 2023 |
TheGoodJoe:
This Ethan Nwaneri is not a dictator/conductor. You are just wasting time attacking Kelechi Nwakali, then end up exposing that you don't even understand the role of a midfield conductor.
Falling down in life is not the end of a man and no matter how much you try to paint a player bad, he can still pick himself up.
Your negativity against Osimhen, Iheanacho, Sadiq and others did not stop them from growing.
Your post of Ethan Nwaneri goes into the list of gaffes of yours.
Finito. You should have known by now the man Komekn. I am not trying to belittle anyone, Komekn knows very little about the tactics of football, This is very true. There was a time he called Ademola Lookman a traditional winger. It may be that he has heard about the traditional winger role, and then decided to mix up Ademola Lookman with the traditional winger role. This and many more made me realise the man that Komekn is. Komekn should do more of learning than talking. |
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Meliforme: 2:23pm On Feb 24, 2023 |
Mujtahida: No data on the effect of long ball. Finito You are better than this. You have been given two instances. |
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Meliforme: 10:34am On Feb 22, 2023 |
do4luv14: Of all players why Nwakali Why No player can do the things he does. 17 long balls in a single game is unthinkable. |
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Meliforme: 10:24am On Feb 22, 2023 |
codemaniacs: You guys forget that Nwakali is playing in a country that prioritizes midfielders and midfield play so the indigenes will be 1st to be considered before anyone else... even Ramon Azeez had his own issues...
I think the best country for Nigerian midfielders is Belgium and Denmark and it also depends on the coach.... Mikel had issues with Conte and had to leave... Since Mikel, Bonke, Frank Onyeka, Ndidi and Iwobi have been the only Nigerian midfielders playing in top 5 leagues and even Iwobi position has been changed by several managers and Iwobi also has his struggles with different coaches since leaving Arsenal..
Nwakali has a skill-set of through passes, corner kicks, long passes that can bring out the best in the Super Eagles strikers and that's why he is needed in the team...
Against Tunisia he created a one on one opportunity for Sadiq by making a through pass to Sadiq which Sadiq missed. Now imagine if it was Osimhen , Lookman, Moffi or Ihenacho receiving that through pass and how we could have equalized...
football is a game of creating chances/opportunities and taking those chances. Nwakali can create chances that can put S.E 1 or 2 goals ahead and the entire team starts defending that lead at least that's what Morocco did anytime they scored the first goal that made them reach the Semi-Finals of the World Cup..
Against Ghana, there was no player to create chances for the Strikers, Moses Simon was trying to dribble everyone, Chukwueze wing was un-used...
Against Portugal, the same issue, no player to create chances for the strikers...
two players S.E needs and are not liked on this thread are Nwakali and Chidera Ejuke... Thank you. |