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AndSunGorilla:
Premium oil dey your head!!!! But then again, truth be told, sometimes some monikers talk about him too much and seem to paint the picture that his inclusion in the team will resolve all the team's shortcomings. The excessive mention sometimes seems awkward. All that said, I wish Nwakali nothing but the best for his career even whether he plays for 9ja or doesn't. After all players like Owubokiri, Akpoborire and Obiku had somewhat good careers in Europe without playing so much for 9ja.

Nwakali's inclusion will give us an advantage. An advantage that is quite unique in it's working's. Yes Nwakali's frequent mentions is a justified one. No other player in view, not Iwobi, Ebere or Olise will give us that.

Mujtahida:
You don come. All forms of passing - long, short, forward, side - are basic to all footballers

What do you mean by 'You don come'.
I don't like that.

You don't have to list long, short, forward or side passing together, it will be very confusing to the impatient. A forward or a side pass can either be a short or a long pass.

Let me make things more simple or basic for comprehension. A team can string passes from their own half to the opposition's half and score a goal without the need of a long pass or other skills like dribbling. A basic skill is a skill that is most fundamental.

charlesemeka85:
it is especially for CBs and midfielders

Long passing is not basic to any position played in football, not even for goalkeepers.
First touch, short passing are the basics for all positions. Each position then has skills basic to it, for example for defenders, it is tackling and creating blocks.

As it is with long passing not being a basic skill, so it is with dribbling.

[quote author=komekn post=120883292]First of all you are making the very basic skill set of "long ball" distribution as some high level unattainable skill set.

In reality it's a basic skill set not an outstanding exceptional one, players who have a far better array of skill sets resort it to it now and again not continuously. We have not descended to the leve of playing police game.

In this regard any Nigerian midfield player that is playing in the EPL, Championship and League one are better options than him .

Any Nigerian Midfielder playing in the top 10 leagues of Europe is a better option.

Consider that one of our best Midfielders in recent times Etebo plays in the Greek Super league and thats rated 20 in Europe.

The Segundo is very very low standard to use the term quality is an over statement, with regards to the Segundo division.

For a direct example I would say all the midfielders in Sheffield Wednesday in league one are better than him. For example ;

Adeshina Bakinson
Fisayo Dele-Bashiru
Dennis Adeniran

What's remarkable but not to me Fisayo is wanted by several EPL teams with AC Milan, PSV expressing an interest among other across Europe.

I watched him play for Manchester City against Liverpool FC U21 and he was the outstanding player not Harvey Elliott.

For context a little clip.

🦉 @swfc 🤝 beautiful goals#EFL | #CarabaoCup pic.twitter.com/F89Xy9Foaa

— Carabao Cup (@Carabao_Cup) September 30, 2022

passing is not a basic skill in football.

TheSuperNerd:
Kelechi Nwakali FT Stats for Ponferradina on Sunday.

UD Ibiza 1-1 SD Ponferradina - La Liga Smartbank Matchday 27.

Played 90mins+.
109 touches.
1 chance created💥
14 pass entries into Final third🔥🔥🔥
81/92 accurate passes.
88% passing accuracy.
17/25 accurate long balls 😳🔥🔥🔥 (WTF??!!!!).
1/4 accurate crosses.
3 corners taken.
2 shots off target.
100% ground duels won (4/4).
2/3 aerial duels won.
8 recoveries.
2 clearances.
2 headed clearances.
1 tackle.
1 interception.
1 block.
Was fouled 3x.
0x dribbled past.


Ahhh... no wonder Joebie came in to stylishly call my attention to the lad's showing today. Na wa.

TheGoodJoe, biko come and see something, my Top Man.

This is beautiful

komekn:
Dude it's a lot more complicated than that .

What is the substance and nature of duplicity of bilateral trade agreement that Liberia has signed with multiple Chinese Mining companies, last estimate 21.

We are Africans unfortunately we pursue self interest over national interest. High ranking government officials will mortgage the nation in dubious agreement 20 year + with little benefits for national growth. If they can get some perfunctory benefit of which the Chinese are very willing to oblige us with .

Please go a bit deeper George Weah inherited a system that with historical endemic corruption. He is doing damage limitation.

How does he extract the nation from exploitative long term agreements with these Chinese Mining companies ❓❓❓

Explain what you meant by perfunctory benefit.

ChrisKels:
That was really a very sensible contribution bro. Thanks

You are welcome.

ChrisKels:
Should they now leave all the talking for you just because you were the first to talk about him? Na this kind talk dey make CharlesEmeka vex oo hmmm.


By the way, who are the other prospects, especially in our midfied? I mean youth prospects

It is good to make references.
It is good to give credit to whom it is due.

If a moniker was the first to give a report about a certain player, any other moniker giving a subsequent report should build on the previous report especially if aware a previous report.
It makes this thread look organised, it shows teamwork, it also helps research.

charlesemeka85:
samu hv always been good just suffered from dip of form few months ago. Try dey watch match no be to jump in support any time dem post here

Did you read well what i posted or are you afraid of patience.

I highlighted an improvement in his contributions to defence and his accurate long passes.
Do you really watch Samuel Chukwueze? It is very clear you don't.

komekn:
The bold is a nonsensical proposition without any iota of substance.

The quality of league will determine the difficulty of execution and quality of delivery. The creation of a through and or long pass in Seria A is not the same as the NPFL. The quality of a cross in the EPL is not the same as Serbia league.

Quality of football is still relative to the league you are playing in, that can not be dismissed. In this inglorious quest to overcome quality with mediocrity to hype a player who has done nothing beyond regression in the past 8 years. Nwakali midfield maestro.

Consider Ivan Trichkovski top goal ⚽ scorer Cypriot League (rated 21in Europe) with 14 goals this season, he is 35. About 10 years ago he was in Belgium league his best tally at his peak 5 goals.

Alexander lacazette in 2016/17 got 28 goals from 30 games in the French league one. After 5 years at Arsenal his best EPL goal tally was 14, he has never been a top 5 goal scorer, not sure even top 10 in the EPL.

He has gone back to French League one , no longer in his prime at 31 , he is now joint number 2 with 4 other players in the French league with 12 goals. That tells you something.

Statistics are absolutely relative to the league you are in. You cannot dismiss relative quality in assessment of statistics . All because you want to hype the best midfield maestro.

I haven't followed the Spanish Cup , how many Segundo teams❓ were able to beat La Liga opposition how many from the Spanish 3rd tier ❓

I will reiterate the Segunda division is poor quality particularly once you below 4/5th place.

Ponferradina will struggle in my opinion without prejudice in English League two.

Ignorance can be bold.
Accuracy of short passes, long passes and crosses have more to do with how well it was served by the player giving them, for instance a poor cross can be tracked and then be well utilised by a teammate, good utilisation of a poor cross doesn't make the cross good or accurate, also an accurate cross, short pass or long pass can be intercepted. A good analyst should know how these things are calculated.

You admire confusion
Nowhere in my post did i talk about goalscoring, but you brought it in to support your obtusion. Again the emphasis was on Nwakali and what he can do as of himself, but you brought in his team, saying that they will struggle in league two, as if that is what was being discussed. You want to convolute the argument, and bring in new topics for discussion, you want a journey into a blind maze that leads nowhere, but my refusal to participate is blatant.

TheSuperNerd:
Samuel Chukwueze FT Stats for Villarreal in La Liga on Monday Night.

Villarreal CF 0-1 Rayo Vallecano - La Liga Matchday 19.

Played 90mins+
68 touches.
1 chance created💥
3 pass entries into Final third.
41/52 accurate passes.
79% passing accuracy.
100% accurate long balls (3/3).
1/3 successful dribbles.
1 shot on target.
2 shots off target.
5/7 ground duels won.
3 tackles.
1 recovery.
Was fouled once.

Samuel Chukwueze's massive leap in his contributions to defense is worthy of commendation.

Dude now attempts long balls with good accuracy.

Kudos to Chukwueze. His place in the front three is undisputed and uncontested.

TheSuperNerd:
Kelechi Nwakali FT Stats for Ponferradina today in La Liga Smartbank.

Real Zaragoza 0-0 Ponferradina - La Liga Smartbank Matchday 25.

Played 90mins+.
92 touches.
2 chances created 💥
1 big chance created 💥
7 pass entries into Final third.
69/83 accurate passes.
83% passing accuracy.
100% accurate crosses.
4/7 accurate long balls.
2 corners taken.
1 shot off target.
3/4 ground duels won.
12 recoveries.
100% tackles won.
1 interception.
1 clearance.
1 headed clearance.
Was fouled 2x.

*Kelechi Nwakali completed the most passes (69) in the game.

Very Solid.

What many fail to realise is that stats such as the accuracy of short passes, crosses and long balls, the ability to create goalscoring chances, are independent of league quality, these qualities resides in the player's skills and intelligence (decision making).

Philosopher1979:
U may be right about his performance. But then he is injured now

He is not right about anything.

[quote author=TheSuperNerd post=120045080]Yira Sor's Super Goal. Watch in link below.

👋 | Yira Collins Sor geeft zijn visitekaartje meteen af. 🎫🥵️ #GNKZWA pic.twitter.com/s7K3rBEfDG

— DAZN België (@DAZN_BENL) January 14, 2023

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charlesemeka85:
leave mk em dey yarn dust. Tomorrow em go say em sabi football

TheGoodJoe is very sound. I have benefitted very well from his tactical insights.

ChrisKels:
This Goodjoe guy can you rest for once and allow us who come here to read about Nigerian players to enjoy our moment as our boys are painting Europe with goals? What is wrong with you?

This is uncalled for.

Karlovych:
But this was right

You can't make a sound judgement just from this image alone, the image clearly revealed a ball that is still in motion, by this very fact, we can't pinpoint its exact landing spot.

TheGoodJoe:

Blocking with channels. You guys were just defending in numbers. Even Wigan can do that. Nothing tactical. It was a defensive set up because you were up against a better side. You were out played all through the game. Anyone that sits deep can nullify anyone.

Not every team that seats deep can nullify anyone.

do4luv14:
Good Beautiful morning guyz,

Thanks to Osimhen for that beautiful Amazing performance yesterday, It was a perfect pre bBirthday gift to Me

It's my birthday ,Am Plus 1 today, And I don't do it all by myself, It's GOD all the way, and will only be GOD all by Himself

Happy Prolific Birthday to me cheers!!!!!

Happy birthday do4luv14, with loads of God's riches.

elyte89:
U go stubborn for real life…na only u I sabi wey be say dem go leave argument for u,but u go still continue just to prove a point

TheGoodJoe really took out the patience to tackle the misinformation that benji and Komekn were peddling, to think that they have zilch data to back up their claim made their argument deformed and boring. I kept away from the argument because TheGoodJoe is more than enough to handle them for the next ten years if the argument were to stretch up to that interval.

Congratulation to TheGoodJoe.

maidaboi:
the are better than him

No, they are not at all.
It is very disheartening to realise that no prospective CB from Uduokhai to Adarabioyo, has something to offer that we don't already have, i repeat none, rather we have CB's that offer techniques that those guys do not offer at least for now.

Dathypebruv:
U see hw he skipped my mention becos he knows i'm right
TheSuperNerd is a cityzen

May be he did not notice.

TheSuperNerd:
Lol... Meli My Good man. For the sake of Elyte89 who is yet to wrap up his own assignment as he asked the question, I will neither confirm nor deny your post.

But hey, beautiful try.... Just won't say, for now, if you hit the target or not.

Okay ooo.

Dathypebruv:
Me tinks its man city

That will be TheGoodJoe's.

AndSunGorilla:
Make I guess, the club with agbero supporters? Dat club popular for lagos, club that shares name with undiluted ogogoro, I get am?

No, I have not seen any support for Chelsea in him.

TheSuperNerd:
Lol... I actually don't think you do.

You have shown no real support for any club as far as i can remember.
You attention majors on clubs that has Super Eagles players in them.

It shows only one conclusion. The Super Eagles of Nigeria is the team that has your real support, let me just say the national team which also includes the Super Falcons, Golden Eaglets etc

Kog45:
Oga Meli make I talk... NAPOLI

No, not at all, Sir.

TheSuperNerd:
The Big Question finally asked.

But why do you want to know? I thought by now, you should have figured it out.

I know the team you support. Should i let it out?

komekn:
It's your opinion even if it's delusional.

As delusional as it may sound to your ears, I have seen more shooting technique in Osimhen than in your beloved Tammy Abraham.
And in my own assessment after taking into consideration other football techniques I have found that Osimhen is more technical on the overall than Tammy Abraham.

I picked out the shooting technique because of how obvious the difference is.
I chose Tammy Abraham because he is a player you claim to know and have high regards for.

komekn:
If that's your idea of exceptional skill, guile, technique and dribbling you need to go for an eye test.

Did you watch the video?
Are you just trolling me.

Nobody, at first, used the word exceptional to describe Osimhen's technique, they rather said he has a low technique,
but since you brought in that description, then Osimhen's technique is exceptional.
And from today henceforth Osimhen's technique is exceptional. Osimhen's technique is actually exceptional. Yes he is exceptional, and your eyes is convincing you now, and if it is not then you need a surgeon.

TheSuperNerd:
Happy Birthday To Victor Osimhen: Nigeria's Most Valuable player in World Football today.

Undoubtedly he is also among the most complete strikers/CFs on the planet and he isn't even in his prime yet.

More years of conquests and Greatness, Victor.

Cheers to the Monster Machine @24.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lPRPH3bJJlY

This is a player that some, on this thread have touted to be low in technique.
You try to correct them, they choose to blindly argue, even when you have the backing of stats and eye tests.

Philosopher1979:
How the Nigerian league can develop.

Can't nff get investors from quatar, Saudi Arabia, china etc. Also the man city group can buy one of our clubs.
We don't need our money for the league to run. We just need investors.
But nff are stupid and myopic. How will a league attract investors when it is not televised.
Anyway with our global reputation in football, we can easily attract investors. We have global stars like kanu, okocha, Mikel obi etc. They can easily market us to the world

You ended this brilliant and wonderful idea of yours with calling NFF stupid.

How do you expect a stupid entity to take your wise counsel.
Please delete the words: stupid and myopic.