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Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Meliforme: 2:47pm On Apr 17, 2023
TheSuperNerd:
He is majorly still a shadow of the Ndidi he once was. A shadow of the true improvements he was making up until 2020/21. Using a Bissau game where Ndidi was basically average to talk up Ndidi's technicality like the way you once used passing accuracy % to talk up a non-existent Ndidi passing range is really Stretching it.

Ndidi is technically limited and hasn't shown marked consistent improvements for a good while now. That's the truth.
A player can bring a lot of technicality to his game and still have an average game. The phenomena is commonplace. In the game against Bissau he did stuffs not particular to what he would, normally. I saw improvements in his technicality. I did not say he is technically limited nor technically above average, i said improvements.

In football statistics passing accuracy talks primarily of short passing, which is basic to football, except otherwise indicated.

Below is an image showing Sofascore's stats of Kelechi Nwakali, from the image you can clearly deduce that Kelechi's passing accuracy was calculated from short passes, every other kind of passing was indicated separately and its own number and accuracy of execution stated. If you have issues with my standing, or you feel that Sofascore's presentation of facts is faulty, please indicate.

When i clearly stated Ndidi's passing accuracy, it was supposed to reveal the accuracy of his short passes. This i tried to explain to you.

Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Meliforme: 10:02pm On Apr 16, 2023
TheSuperNerd:
It's fine My Good man. Just needed to set the records straight.

Truth is you saw something that many of us didn't want to actively pay attention to.

While we focused on Ndidi's obviously world class Defensive Stats (tackling, interceptions, clearances, ball recoveries and more) which got him the huge attention he revelled in for 3-4 seasons in the EPL up until 2020/21 season, you on the other hand focused on his limited technical quality on the ball. You even called out his poor press resistance and limited passing range. You may not have used these terms verbatim but your posts pointed to them.

I recall you using this to even say you prefer this player or that player to Ndidi and I always opposed your posts from the angle that Ndidi is still the best and most inform midfielder we have out there (which was true at those times).

I honestly even considered your posts very harsh but then I decided to pay closer attention to what you were saying and I found it true.

Time has shown that indeed Ndidi wasn't improving technically and tactically. He is still the tackling/interceptions machine (and he even seems to be struggling with those lately especially tackling) we know but midfield football dynamics has left him behind.
Ndidi has seen some improvements technically. This was obvious in our home game against G. Bissau.
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Meliforme: 6:42pm On Apr 12, 2023
typicalgamer:
I love you 😘
Your statement is too real
Because of one superb performance world people don compare his stats to saka

Forgetting nobody on the world would pick him ahead of saka even his own Villarreal coaches and teammates, even we as fans 😂
Please speak only for yourself.

I will pick him over Saka depending on how i intend to win.
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Meliforme: 1:07am On Apr 11, 2023
JohnBullMySon:
Rohr, Eguavoen and JP all played him on the left wing. No excuse as pertaining to the coach. Besides he's been missing a lot in the SE as well.
Chukwueze played on the right under these coaches.
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Meliforme: 1:03am On Apr 11, 2023
TheSuperNerd:
I mean my good man, it's so obvious. And to make it worse, we don't have the midfield personnel to enable the progression of our plays into the 3rd phase of plays in the tactical manner that will bring Chukwueze and his corresponding Wing forwards into the game in support of Osimhen.

JPes is cramping our lads' best traits and refusing to address the tactical needs in certain roles (or maybe not refusing, perhaps he just doesn't know).
Yes.
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Meliforme: 12:57am On Apr 11, 2023
This is another post, that explains why Chukwueze may not be as effective as is expected of his quality. He is made to fit into a mould not particular to him.

Meliforme:
THE DEFEAT TO PORTUGAL WHAT WENT WRONG?

It has never been about what went wrong, but what keeps going wrong.

"You can't keep repeating a particular routine expecting different outcomes"

Every tactical setup, requires the right personnel for application.
A 4-4-2 or 4-3-3 or any other tactical setup and the attendant variations of them, require playing personnel with the right technical and tactical qualities to thrive.
Wingers required to prosecute 4-4-2 have qualities that are quite different from wingers for 4-3-3.

In the former (4-4-2 ) the wingers are directly exposed and in sync with their fullbacks.

They are to do the following:
* Provide cover for their fullbacks. this involves additional defensive abilities.
* Provide support for the forwards.
* The ability to score goals is not primary to what is expected of them.
* They must possess decent ball passing abilities such as the ability to give long balls, crosses, chipped passes.
* They make decisions typical to their roles. for instance, shooting at goal is not usually the first option for a winger in this setup, rather the winger utilises feasible options to make the ball available to the forwards.


In 4-3-3, the winger in this setup is referred to as a forwards or striker. The involvement with their fullback is more diminished because of the presence of a midfield trio, ipso facto They are expected to have more offensive duties than defensive.

The following is expected of them:
* Score goals. This is primary to their roles.
* Assist the Center Forward in many ways ( to be discussed later).
* There is more flexibility to the manner at which the winger contributes to defense. This is essentially a coach's preference or tactical approach. Nevertheless on the average they spend more time in the opposition's half.


In Super Eagles. judging from the descriptions given of wingers in 4-4-2 and 4-3-3 , it is very obvious that we are deploying the wrong personnel in the chosen tactical arrangement. For instance Moses Simon and Ademola Lookman are forwards (strikers) and do not have the required defensive capabilities and passing finesse to thrive as wingers in 4-4-2. They are modern forwards groomed to thrive in a front three. They lack the ability for build up play and ball progression. That is the job of midfielders. That is the job done for them at their clubs. They are usually at the receiving end.

If we must stick to 4-4-2, We will have to go for players who will not only provide good defensive cover, but also decent ball passing ability, players groomed for build up play, and patient on the ball.
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Meliforme: 12:05am On Apr 11, 2023
chrisoblog made an important observation.

chrisooblog:
Chukwueze is scoring double against Madrid now if it's Sao Tome and Principe he will be looking like a poor man's Ifeanyi Ekweume. All the same kudos to him.
JohnBullMySon has the following to say.

JohnBullMySon:
Till tomorrow nobody can explain this.
But one of the beauties of this thread is that you can find the answers you need if you search well enough.

The following posts made earlier, explains why Chukwueze is never at his best for the S.E

I made this post shortly before the second leg vs G. Bissau.

Meliforme:
REASONS WHY PESEIRO SHOULD ADOPT A FRONT THREE AGAINST GUINEA BISSAU

All the invited forwards thrive better when involved in the final phase or phases of attack (goalscoring) rather than in the build up to it. A 4-4-2 system converts some of these forwards to wingers who are more involved in the buildup to goal, thereby not utilising them to the best of their strengths. Moses Simon and Samuel Chukwueze have of late, seen improvements in their game that has made them somewhat a noticeable exception, as they seem more involved in play build up, even at that they have shown to be more efficient in a 4-3-3 as inverted wingers than as wingers in a 4-4-2 setup.
Their performances for club and country as part of both setups further enlightens the degree of their usefulnesses for the roles. They have shown to thrive better as inverted wingers.

Osimhen thrives better as a lone center forward.

High pressing A front three will enable a more intense pressing against the backline of G. Bissau and can force them into errors. A high pressing against their fullbacks might prevent their long ball strategy towards goalscoring.
This post was made shortly after the second leg vs G. Bissau.

Meliforme:
IS PESEIRO REALLY A BAD COACH.

The points below should enlighten your reasoning to make or not to make the conclusion regarding Peseiro's phenomenon as the coach well suited for the job.

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Featuring Moses Simon and Samuel Chukwueze in roles they are not best suited. While he is not the only coach guilty of this, he is supposed to be an upgrade. Moses Simon and Samuel Chukwueze's behaviours on the pitch is typical of inverted wingers or forwards. Their involvement in build up plays is very secondary, they are usually at the receiving end. They are meant to receive the ball in zones and in situations where their trademark dribbling maneuvers will either give them a shooting chance at goal, or make a final pass. This is what they know how to do best, why not use them that way.

Those may or may not be good reasons to label him a bad coach, but one thing is very sure, they don't accentuate good hope in him.
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Meliforme: 2:14pm On Apr 10, 2023
TheSuperNerd:
And it's so easy. In my head, I can already picture how I want this team set up in a way that utilises the powers/key traits/xtics of each of our players from defence to Midfield and to attack.

Chukwueze needs to be at the receiving end of lines-breaking balls or passing moves directed to his wing or corresponding final third half space. He shouldn't be receiving balls in the 2nd phase of plays. He should be receiving it in the 3rd phase of plays and applying either the final blows or the killer pass or the pass before the killer pass.
You nailed it.
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Meliforme: 1:46pm On Apr 10, 2023
JohnBullMySon:
Till tomorrow nobody can explain this.
The explanation has already been given.
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Meliforme: 7:11pm On Mar 30, 2023
do4luv14:
I beg to disagree thank you
What are your disagreements
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Meliforme: 3:32pm On Mar 30, 2023
Blueelf:
Loll

I doubt you saw him play bro

Victor Moses is one of our most intelligent wingers in recent times

Dude knew how to cross a ball to save his life
All our current wingers have the ability to change the outcome of a match.
We have seen that over and over.

Victor Moses might not do better than Moses Simon and Chukwueze under the same playing personnel, but how can we even say that when we are yet to witness it.

Our current pattern of play can be very disjointed.
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Meliforme: 3:31pm On Mar 30, 2023
Blueelf:
Loll

I doubt you saw him play bro

Victor Moses is one of our most intelligent wingers in recent times

Dude knew how to cross a ball to save his life
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Meliforme: 3:24pm On Mar 30, 2023
Blueelf:
Loll

I doubt you saw him play bro

Victor Moses is one of our most intelligent wingers in recent times

Dude knew how to cross a ball to save his life
How many chances did Chukwueze create in the just concluded match.
If Chukwueze has the coordination in play that Victor Moses during his stint enjoyed, you will be telling a different story.
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Meliforme: 2:04pm On Mar 30, 2023
COOL10:
Even Victor Moses' biggest critics know the truth. They can't argue about his performance especially when he played as a winger.


Whenever I saw that guy in the starting lineup for the Eagles, my mind would immediately be at rest. He could single handedly change any game. Whenever he got on the ball, you knew something exciting was gonna happen.


He knew when to dribble, when to pass, when to shoot, when to fall down in the box and roll twenty times just to get a penalty grin grin, and he also knew when to cross. THE BASICS!!!. That's something that majority of our current wingers lack.


Just look at the games against Cameroon and Algeria. Look at how he embarrassed their defenders. The closest thing we have right now to a Victor Moses is Ademola Lookman, but he's yet to live up to it in the National team colours.
I did not talk down on Victor Moses, he is one of the big names in Nigerian football. What i cannot bear to see, is someone making our current wingers look less, using different contexts to make comparisons that are not informed.

Comparing Ademola Lookman to Victor Moses is another comparison you should not have brought up because both players are very different in what they bring to the table. Victor Moses has techniques that helps him contribute to defense, cross the ball etc, you can't say the same for Ademola Lookman, however, Ademola Lookman is a better goalscorer, has good anticipation and movement around the 18 yard box, those are some of the reasons why both are used differently on the pitch.

Bright Osayi Samuel is a player you can actually compare to Victor Moses.
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Meliforme: 12:55pm On Mar 30, 2023
daveP:
What I'm pissed at most in his post is he saying Mikel and Onazi helped him majorly. Maybe he didn't watch VicMo. That guy will singlehandedly run from defence and do wonders, MOSTLY by himself, influencing game outcomes with his intelligence. These current ones can't lace his boots till 20whatever. Unless the improve by far.
So singlehandedly running from defence to attack doing wonders, makes him a fantastic player? even at that, cite two instances were those has happened, i can recall one, and the circumstances that led to it, under similar circumstances, we have better runners, better dribblers and better finishers in our current wingers than we have in Victor Moses.

The current S.E setup, is making our wingers produce less than they would.
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Meliforme: 12:27pm On Mar 30, 2023
COOL10:
Victor Moses has a record of 12 goals and 5 assists in just 37 games for Nigeria. For a winger, that's an impressive record. Show me a Nigerian winger that has a better record.

And please, did you really compare Victor Moses' style of play and his creativity with the likes of Moses Simon and Chukwueze? 😳😳


Chai, what won't I read on this thread?🤣🤦🏽‍♂️🤣🤦🏽‍♂️
I have made it clear on this thread, the difference between Victor Moses wing role to that of the wingers we now parade.

Victor Moses unique attributes makes him an excellent wingback, while Chukwueze and co are good wing forwards. Victor Moses have been tried on the roles Chukwueze and co now ply and was found not as productive. The stats are there for the lookup.
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Meliforme: 2:34pm On Mar 29, 2023
COOL10:
Almost five years since Victor Moses left and we're yet to find a credible replacement. Moses Simon, Chukwueze, Dennis, Onyekuru; none of those guys has managed to fill his boots.
Victor Moses boots belongs to Victor Moses, they don't need to fill it. Victor Moses boots might be too tight or oversize.

For the roles these players do for club and country, they do it better than what Victor offers.

For the reckoning, They aforementioned players have more speed and movement, finishing, dribbling skills and creativity.

Do not also forget that Victor Moses abilities in S.E were accentuated more by the presence of Onazi and Mikel in midfield.
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Meliforme: 10:01pm On Mar 27, 2023
IS PESEIRO REALLY A BAD COACH.

The points below should enlighten your reasoning to make or not to make the conclusion regarding Peseiro's phenomenon as the coach well suited for the job.

The CB pairing of Bassey and Akpoguma. When i saw Peseiro's choice of CB's in Akpoguma and Bassey, i momentarily lost hope in Peseiro's ability to genuinely know our players. This kind of decision making will definitely prove very costly in the offing. Even though he righted this wrong in the second leg, but how on earth did he come about such decision in the first place

Depleting an already limited midfield to give Osimhen a partner that he doesn't even need.. There are good reasons for pairing strikers, Osimhen is not that kind of striker (i will explain this maybe in another post). This was very obvious in the first leg against G. Bissau.

Featuring Moses Simon and Samuel Chukwueze in roles they are not best suited. While he is not the only coach guilty of this, he is supposed to be an upgrade. Moses Simon and Samuel Chukwueze's behaviours on the pitch is typical of inverted wingers or forwards. Their involvement in build up plays is very secondary, they are usually at the receiving end. They are meant to receive the ball in zones and in situations where their trademark dribbling maneuvers will either give them a shooting chance at goal, or make a final pass. This is what they know how to do best, why not use them that way.

Those may or may not be good reasons to label him a bad coach, but one thing is very sure, they don't accentuate good hope in him.
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Meliforme: 7:32pm On Mar 27, 2023
These were the conversation that ensued between me and BannedLarge, where i told him the best CB's we have now.

BannedLarge:
Ajax can afford to play at at Lb but we can’t because he is our best available CB
Meliforme:
He is not
BannedLarge:
If he isn’t presently our best CB then who ishuh If dem born you well mention balogun, Akpoguma, ekong, awaziem or semi ajayi. Tell us who is presently our best CB…. The problem with Nigerians is that, we exaggerate our players ability and always believe that, there are world class players at our disposal
Meliforme:
Awaziem, Balogun, Omeruo.
I don't come about these conclusions out of nowhere.
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Meliforme: 3:45pm On Mar 27, 2023
AndSunGorilla:
Who we go deploy to the RB? bameyi?
Akpoguma can play RB.
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Meliforme: 3:43pm On Mar 27, 2023
REASONS WHY PESEIRO SHOULD ADOPT A FRONT THREE AGAINST GUINEA BISSAU

All the invited forwards thrive better when involved in the final phase or phases of attack (goalscoring) rather than in the build up to it. A 4-4-2 system converts some of these forwards to wingers who are more involved in the buildup to goal, thereby not utilising them to the best of their strengths. Moses Simon and Samuel Chukwueze have of late, seen improvements in their game that has made them somewhat a noticeable exception, as they seem more involved in play build up, even at that they have shown to be more efficient in a 4-3-3 as inverted wingers than as wingers in a 4-4-2 setup.
Their performances for club and country as part of both setups further enlightens the degree of their usefulnesses for the roles. They have shown to thrive better as inverted wingers.

Osimhen thrives better as a lone center forward.

High pressing A front three will enable a more intense pressing against the backline of G. Bissau and can force them into errors. A high pressing against their fullbacks might prevent their long ball strategy towards goalscoring.
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Meliforme: 1:51pm On Mar 27, 2023
In my opinion and from what i have seen so far, coach Peseiro should employ a three-man midfield that has Iwobi, Ndidi and Osayi.
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Meliforme: 1:37pm On Mar 27, 2023
It seemed like coach Peseiro wanted to make an Etebo out of Ndidi and was tilted towards the same strategy he used against Sao Tome and Principe, but it did not work. Etebo and Ndidi cannot be substituted one for another.
I saw the stuff Ndidi was trying to pull, Ndidi will remain Ndidi. Very good at what he does and that it is. Ndidi can evolve and improve, he is getting there, but a lot of work he needs to put in.
The burden of play progression and control shouldn't be left on the shoulders of one player (Iwobi), you cannot do that especially when you are facing a team that is tactically set up to defend.

Etebo played a big role in the thrashing of Sao Tome and Principe.
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Meliforme: 6:49pm On Mar 23, 2023
Truidstar:
Simon is a waste of space Tbh. Iwobi should handle corner kicks duties. He delivers some sweet corners for Everton.
The Moses Simon i have seen of late, is not a waste of space.
Don't worry, you will see it
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Meliforme: 6:46pm On Mar 23, 2023
TheSuperNerd:
The Ideal front 3 right now indeed backed by a dynamically functional midfield 3 but nope, nothing dynamic about an Ndidi/Iwobi/Aribo/Onyeka midfield options selection. The limitations are much.

Peseiro is making the ex coach look like some hero.

And ofcos he would start Simon probably because he is gonna be matchday captain (in Ekong's absence), nothing else.
Nerdie, have you seen Moses Simon of late, the improvements in his game is quite noticeable.

Considering the quality of players in camp, i think he deserves a starting place in the front three, that is, if we are staging a front three.
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Meliforme:
TheGoodJoe:
Kelechi Nwakali was immmense yesterday and has started showing consistency which played a part in their win against Alaves yesterday.

Hope he keeps building on it.
This is marvelous.

12 out of 14 ground duels, won.
6 accurate long balls
2 accurate crosses.
100% dribbling success, 5/5.
1 key pass.

Kelechi Nwakali is a complete midfielder.
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Meliforme: 1:31am On Mar 16, 2023
TheSuperNerd:
Dear Meliforme, the Analytical and the logical. Thanks so much great man. 🤝🏽🫶🏽
You are welcome, TheSuperNerd.
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Meliforme: 8:05pm On Mar 15, 2023
TheSuperNerd:
Thought I warned you all to note the name down.

Next time, pay closer attention.

Gift Orban is indeed our next big scoring machine. His shooting volume is crazy and the accuracy of his shooting even crazier.

Enjoy his rise.

Calma and watch things unfold... wink
So good to have you back TheSuperNerd, missed you greatly.
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Meliforme: 5:33am On Mar 15, 2023
zuchyblink:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7OK8QyEGaJ4
Dude is well rounded. We have a gem.

I believe he is ripe for invitation, and should be the first choice partner to Osimhen, if we are to go with a two man striking option.
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Meliforme: 11:52am On Mar 11, 2023
chrisooblog:
Hi everyone seems Supernerd sadly lost his dad recently. Please anyone close to him do kindly reach out to him. Comfort and condolences to you Supernerd aka doc.
My condolences, TheSuperNerd.
Please do take solacement in the truth that you will see him again, if he died in the Lord.
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Meliforme: 1:20am On Mar 09, 2023
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Meliforme:
Samueltemi337:
And why exactly are you telling me this?
did I say Nwakali was better?
This is never about comparing leagues, nor plying the blind alley of sentiments. Truth be told, Kelechi is more talented than Joe Aribo.

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