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Another fight in the making

shadeyinka:
I hope you know that man fell from grace. He became polluted. A sinner! Sin bought in frailties!

Faith has size but no unit of measurement

Let me ask you a simple question, have you ever seen a custom Rom on an iPhone?


Anything that have size can be measured.

Faith is a concept and by its Bible definition is abstract, imaginary, not seen, hoped for.
how can you see or know the size of an abstraction?

Firmlogger:
@Menxer and @Chubhie

See the meaning of Give head

'Give head' is when a guy pleasures a woman
sexually with his mouth, or a when a woman
pleasures a man sexually with her mouth'.

@chubhie said it is a dirty act/art, is it true?

Chubhie:
Are you serious? Mr menxer,is this the dirty art/act you champion?

Don't get it twisted, there is nothing dirty about it, ask those that do it.

Even if I or you don't do it does not mean others don't do or enjoy it.

Chubhie:
Head? are you a vampire?

Stop displaying your ignorance, if you don't know what "give head" means, Google it.

Favorite1:
Enough of this please. She is human, she made a mistake, nobody is above mistakes. Please stop tormenting the poor girl, only God knows how all this embarrassment has affected her psychologically.
Let's be human...

Let's be gay...
Let's be lesbian...

Surprisingly NIPOST have changed, at least from my experience these days, I ordered something online and it was delivered two weeks after.

I think that is encouraging.

The question is, do you kiss your GF or give her a head?

If you answer yes to any, what's a toothbrush?

Scholar8200:
Which law was so misinterpreted?

The law refers to all the books of the Hebrew Scriptures not just the ten commandments, in case you think that.

Scholar8200:
This is a case of reading into the Bible! The temptations and the tempter were recorded, whence this lies of yours?

You sound very much like the pharisees," this man doth not cast out devils but by Beelzebub".



Now listen to a witness:

This Jesus hath God raised up, whereof we all are witnesses.Acts 2:32


Only if we believe (DEPEND) on Him!

Verily, verily, I say unto you, [size=18pt]He that believeth on me[/size], the works that I do shall he do also; and greater works than these shall he do; because I go unto my Father
John 14:12

Hahahahahahahaha

The same that persecuted Jesus for interpreting the law differently: I and the father are one , remember?

The vicious cycle is repeating, hold onto what you know.

gatiano:
What do you think? It all depends on your intuition as to what is the truth or falsehood.

You should phrase the question better than that.

What is Intuition?
Is it possible for intuition to be enhanced?

Going by your question, intuition is the device for calibrating or measuring falsehood or truth, abi?

Truth and falsehood are relative to each other just like hot and cold is relative on the thermometer.

In calculus, x is always approaching infinity...

analice107:
Are sure you read what you type? So, Jesus had been practicing how to turn water into wine?

Oga, tell me how Jesus practiced his resurrection from the dead.

It is on record Jesus was tempted in the wilderness for forty days and forty nights, I understand that to mean he was learning to control the pranic forces.
I hope you won't ask me what Prana is?

Once he understood how to control those forces, he could apply it to any condition (healing, raise dead, turn water to wine) using any method he deems fit.

Ironically, what was the question that man on the cross put to Jesus?
Did he not answer it by "saving" (raising) himself from dead?

Jesus never said we should put him on a pedestal to be worshipped but that we could do more than he did.

KingEbukasBlog:
Mister , you are not making anysense

You enjoy cherry -picking , don't you

You didn't address

Healing of Marcus' severed ear
Christ's ascension
Christ raising of the dead through spoken words
Christ's appearances to his disciples
Healing of the leper

Seriously, how did Christ master resurrecting himself ? On the path to mastery , there is failure and numerous attempts right ? Is there any evidence whatsoever that Christ made such . Is there any evidence that he attempted resurrecting from the dead before or ascended into heaven ? How does someone even master ascending into Heaven ? Isn't it clearly axiomatic that Christ had knowledge of how to go about these miracles and not trial and error ?

You are actually struggling to make any sense . I'm surprised at being patient with you

Talk of picking cherries.

Neither does it makes sense that Jesus had to be born through a woman when he had the knowledge to just drop down from heaven to earth.

Geniuses are always ahead of their generation, and so was Jesus.

As per evidence, is there any that Jesus was educated, yet he is recorded to read in the synagogue?

I give it to you, patience is a virtue.

KingEbukasBlog:
And how did Christ master

*** healing a severed part of the body - Marcus' ear
*** Raising Lazarus from the dead just by spoken words - Lazarus' spirit adhered to Christ's behest , "Lazarus come forth"
**** Resurrecting from the dead
**** Making appearances to his disciples after his resurrection
**** Ascending into Heaven

According to your logic , he must have practiced those and the big finish that suggested mastery was now indited in the Gospel books . That means

1. He must have died many times to perfect His resurrection . Oh wait , there is no certainty that he resurrected at the first attempt at it .

The end

Bravo brother !
Well done

Good thinking

Hahaha hahaha

You forgot to mention the case that Jesus had to repeat a process before a blind man could see. What do you call that?

The knowledge to raise the dead was known by old testament prophets, Jesus took it a step further by raising himself.

We are like the person in the parable of talents, afraid to explore ways to increase the talent (truth) he was given for fear of the master.


Hurray for the child that makes it through, If there is any way, it is because the answer lies in you...
~Creed

KingEbukasBlog:
Can you stop cherry-picking ?

Raising Lazarus from the dead
Healing Blind Bartimaeus
**Healing Marcus' severed ear instantly
Healing of the leper
Bringing the 12 year old dead girl back to life
Christ's resurrection from the dead
Christ's appearances to his disciples after resurrection
Christ's ascension into Heaven

Please leave me transfixed , how were those done through trial and error ?

Emphasis was laid on Marcus' miracle

Analice107 ,

And how exactly does what you listed nullify the fact that there was a Learning/practice along the way to manifesting mastery over those conditions?

analice107:
Pls i need someone to help me understand what this person is saying here. Jesus discovered walking on water. Like he didn't know its possible until he tried it and saw it was possible?

You mean Jesus did trial and error until he was sure he could do it?
Why not say Jesus discovered he could multiply bread and fish for thousands of people, and turning water into wine?
Since all his miracles are discoveries, why not say he discovered he could rise from the death?

pls KingEbukasBlog, 4everGod, Shadeyinka, Gombs, come and help me understand this guy.

Every mastery is predicated upon a period of learning and practice.
It's on record Jesus grew in wisdom, and wisdom we all know does not come without learning; and practice is a component of learning.

That the periods of practice is not recorded in the Bible does not mean it did not exist.
Don't forget Jesus spent years in Egypt which was the center of learning at that time.

Why do you think Mary told the servants to do what ever Jesus told them to do?
That's because from his "practice" at home she knew what he could do, hence the confidence.

shadeyinka:
God knew of the human frailties, that is why salvation is by grace through your small faith. It is a gift of God not of works so that no one can boast.

Heaven was made easily accessible through the sacrifice of Christ. I believe you have heard of faith as small as mustard seed as opposed to great faith!

I thought man was created "perfect," how come the frailties?

Meaning heaven was accessible even before Jesus came, but not easily, right?

@bolded, it means faith has no unit of measurement.

analice107:
Jesus discovered how to walk on water? Really?
Ah. Did you say this for want of something to say or you actually said this because you believe you have made any sense? hahahahahahahahaha. kai people dey oo.

Is it that you don't know the use of parenthesis?
Was walking on water a common practice before or after Jesus did?

Yes, he made the "discovery," because some one else (Dynamo) did same and was aired on Discovery channel. The video should be on YouTube.

Aso Rock demons are on his case.

wtfCode:
Apart 4rm reproduction, most gals are just useless.

I beg to disagree, most are fun to be with.

shadeyinka:
If I get you right, you seem to be saying that there exist other ways to heaven apart from Jesus!

I hope that I am wrong with this my perception.

I wrote Yiddish, abi?

shadeyinka:
Faith is a spiritual currency!

Every christian has faith... But is the faith enough to change the object?

You walk into an electronic shop/ showroom and you see this giant Plasma TV that you want it costs just N2.6 million Naira.

In your pocket, you have money , N68,000. But you cannot purchase this TV.

Walking on water requires a faith that is not that common.

But, Are you Born Again? You've not answered this question

@bolded, neither is the faith to walk on the streets of heaven.

Let me preface my answer with this, bible says "except a man is born again he can't see the kingdom of heaven."

The goal is to "see."
What if someone "sees" without the born again tag?

Did Moses "see" the kingdom and was he born?
Did Elijah "see" the kingdom and was he born again?
Did Jesus "see" the kingdom and was he born again?


What it takes to bear the born again tag is not what makes you see.

I endeavor to practice the teachings of Jesus without burdening myself with the egoistic tag: born again.

Ps:
By the way, "except a man is born again he cannot see the kingdom of heaven" is like saying except a man uses hydro power he cannot generate electricity, which in today's world is a fallacy.

shadeyinka:
The point was that Peter Failed because of his wavering Faith. Jesus taught that faith can do anything. The woman with the issue of Blood got healed by faith.

However, as humans we find it difficult to apply faith for everything.

So in the case of Elisha, nko?

And the reason no christian has repeated the walk on water feat is because the faith of Christians are still wavering, right?

On the road to mastery, faith has a role to play. How can we walk on the streets of heaven when we can't walk on water?

shadeyinka:
How do you think Peter was also able to walk on water? Was it by Faith or by Mastery?

Let me answer with a question, between the Elijah/Elisha experience and Jesus/Peter experience who was able to repeat the feat in the absence of his Master?

If you say Peter walked on water by faith, how come he never repeated the feat? Forgiving the fact that Peter failed even in presence of the Master.

In the case of Elisha, he was able to repeat the feat showing he had mastery.

hopeforcharles:
How do u mean the seller says he doesn't ship to outside us and other state too
Educate me on how to go about it, thanks in advance

There are two ways to do it.
1) There are sellers on eBay that ship international, look for them.

2) get a USA virtual address with a shipping/logistics company eg LSM Global Shipping, they will deliver to you in Nigeria. I have used them several times.

Ebay is easy enough to buy from, why look for a third party to do it for you?

Don't set up yourself for a story that touch ooo!

It's like the easiest way these days to be in the news is to turn a God-insulting atheist.

analice107:
Lolz, the word "Discover" floors every thing. To discover something means the thing was there, but you just didn't know it yet.
The question to you now is, Who put it there for them to discover?
Try use your head sir.

You have stylishly avoided the main gist to harp on "Discover".

Yes, just like Jesus "discovered" how to walk on water or turn water to wine.
And there are many more discoveries on the way.

shadeyinka:
I guess you still don't get the port of the post:
You don't need to work to obtain the Admission but You need to work to attain the degree.

Your next point,

Whatever attainment you desire is a product of work but only after you become born again.

You know what?
Jesus was not a Christian.

Why was Jesus persecuted?
Because he circumvented the established religion of his day to beat a new path to Christhood. And put a challenge to us to do (achieve) more than he did. Yet here we are bickering over faith, grace and salvation.

News flash: scientists have discovered how to create Plasma (aether), I guess you know what that means?

shadeyinka:
That is why all Christians are apprentice of Christ! We shall get there: Still learning to put our faith to work

So after more than 2000 years we are still apprenticing, yet Jesus took just 33 years to master walking on water?

Walking on water is not faith talking but a demonstration of mastery.