thesicilian:

That is what most people don't seem to understand.
There is no true love that is unconditional.
[May God forgive me if I'm blaspheming] Even the love that God has for us will one day end if we reject salvation.

God's own is different, He never stops loving man. He might still send you to hell though if you reject him. But that's because he won't force you to choose him but he will respect your choice.

MaxInDHouse:


OK so those you're arguing with on the other thread have become Christians already but it's their WORKS that's leading you and them into arguments, right?




Perhaps they agree that Jesus is also God, won't that be enough?

1Timothy 6:4; Titus 3:9

I'm really sad and worried about your situation. It's just like Muslims who also think they're serving God but they're worshipping the devil indirectly.

MaxInDHouse:


I have heard you!
So now that most people have agreed with you on that do you still need arguing with such ones again?

This is an opportunity for you to enter into relationship with God. I'm not not talking about religion or doctrine. You can have a personal relationship with God and it's through Jesus Christ.

NNTR:
I'll let slide that the word homosexuality is a modern day English word invention, but doest diminish the fact that, your post is laughable because when you, in a blanket manner, say that 'Homosexuality is a sin' it is just like, if someone too, will stand up to say, 'Heterosexulism is a sin' will be laughed at.

Please, instead of referencing scripture in isolation and quoting it out of context, why not within the hour, take time to read and study the whole Romans Chapter 1. Go through Romans Chapter 1 contextually please, so to find out the twist included that's highlighted, in Romans 1:26-27

_{Personal text: Jesus is not a theologian. He is God who told stories.}

Haha the context is very clear. Please meditate on the whole chapter of Romans 1. And you won't have any question on homosexuality being a sin.

MaxInDHouse:


Instead of arguing with them over tenets why not ask for the CORE BELIEFS that's FUNDAMENTAL as you called it?



Perhaps they agree that Jesus is also God, won't that be enough?

I'm afraid for you my brother you think you're on the right way but you're inside the bush.

Without believing that Jesus Christ is son of God and also God, you can't be a Christian and you're going to live forever in hell fire.

In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. John 1:1

And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth. John1:14

MaxInDHouse:


Good!

So since you've known many things about JWs through the WORKS of our FAITH which is zealous preaching and industrious teaching let those having such beliefs also go out there and prove their FAITH by WORKS! James 2:18-26

Forget about "works of faith" without being a Christian it's meaningless.

First become a Christian then you can worry about works of faith.

Razoul:
Just download a pdf file on the internet

As in, I can't remember the last time I read hard copy.

Good points

HellVictorinho6:


Can we always agree on what an abnormal behavior is?

It's difficult with psychology but the Bible is very clear

NNTR:
Even if it were to be curtailed, it still will vague

Of course, homosexuality in dedicated faithful and affectionate committed relationship between two consenting adults is only not a sin, but also is not wicked, is not evil, is not harming children, is not harming animals and is not harming the environment

Adultery or fornication cuts across each sexual orientation. The way adjustments are in made is to stay far away from promiscuity, e.g. no jumping from one bed to another, be faithful, be loyal, run from philandering et cetera

_{Personal text: Jesus is not a theologian. He is God who told stories.}

Homosexuality is a sin

For this cause God gave them up unto vile affections: for even their women did change the natural use into that which is against nature:
27 And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another; men with men working that which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompence of their error which was meet. Romans :26-27

HellVictorinho6:


No.

It's a matter of behavior.

Observable can also mean behavioural.

My reply was to the guy comparing homosexuality to physical deformities.

There are abnormal behaviours too but all this classifications are subjective. I just go with the Bible. And the Bible clearly describes homosexuality as a sexual perversion and sin.

Smoking is not a sin, it's a bad habit though same as drinking.

I agree with your other points, smoking is harmful to the body.

MaxInDHouse:


That's what most people often concludes instead of listening and meditating thoroughly!

Most of our doctrinal disagreements can be overlooked, your beliefs about Jesus Christ unfortunately cannot.

Believing that Jesus Christ is the Son of God and is also God is fundamental to becoming a Christian.

chieveboy:



That's what we're saying all the while. People sitting on a lot of ignorance formulating laws, doctrines, religions and beliefs that dictates the lives of others.

Here, you are implicitly declaring that people only suffer physical abnormalities. Any other abnormality (that is not physical) is a lie .

By your wisdom, non physical abnormality like insulin deficiency, (internal chemical imbalance) is a hoax.

What really gives birth to physical abnormalities? Is not non 'physical' abnormalities, where the internal abnormalities results in distorted limbs distorted Instruments, behavior, capabilities and all that?



It will take you a while to obviously.



What do they seem to you?

I never said that people only suffer from physical abnormalities stop trying to shift the goal post.

People suffer from depression, schizophrenia, homosexuality etc. They all have demonic undertones.

And I know they're some hormonal abnormalities in depressed people but it's still demonic.

Jesus Christ healed some diseases by casting out demons. So even some physical illness have demonic causes.

HellVictorinho6:



Can we agree on the definition of what is normal all the time?

You're missing my point.

Is there any physical/observable feature of a gay person?

Not this earth. A new heaven and a new earth. You're right, everybody will live forever only the location differs.

. And I saw a new heaven and a new earth: for the first heaven and the first earth were passed away; and there was no more sea. Revelation 21:1

Let your moderation be known unto all men. The Lord is at hand. Philippians4:5

There's no biblically accepted or rejected hairstyle but be moderate in everything you do. Don't always try be unnecessarily extravagant.

You're right, God is not the cause of suffering in the world. You people have a lot of weird doctrines though.

chieveboy:


That must have been quite a sight. Do you also take care of people born like this boy please?

There's no relationship between physical abnormalities and homosexuality. I really don't get the point you're trying to make.

Are gays physically abnormal?

NNTR:


Why looking for proof, when it is clear that not, every man with developed boobs like a woman's is actually gay (i.e. sexually and romantically attracted to men) or every woman with manly features is into females (i.e. (i.e. sexually and romantically attracted to females)

Do you get it, that what Apostle Paul with 1 Corinthians 6:9-11 was clear about is, promiscuity and thats in respect of sexual orientation, meaning, whether in a heterosexual capacity, homosexual/lesbian or bisexual/interesex capacity

1 Corinthians 6:9-11, together and in cooperation with Romans 1:26-27 and even 1 Timothy 1:10 too, in fact is a rehash of Leviticus 18:22 and Leviticus 20:13, but with a twist included that's highlighted, in Romans 1:26-27

The sexual immoralities et cetera, hinted in 1 Corinthians 6:9-11, is not exclusive nor peculiar to homosexuality alone but till tomorrow equally happens in heterosexual settings as well.

1 Corinthians 6:9-11, is not in anyway, knocking committed faithful, affection same sex relationship between two consenting adults loving each other for life, essentially until death do part them

Just recently, part of 1 Corinthians 6:9-11 played out, when an Ifa priest from Ekiti State, untimely met his death from having sexual escapades with a pastor's wife, and not knowing that, allegedly, her husband had placed magun on her (i.e. laced her with native magic spell that causes death by thunderbolt to whoever has sex with the pastor's wife besides him, the pastor)

NATIVE DOCTOR SLUMP, DIES DURING SEX ROMP WITH PASTOR'S WIFE
https://punchng.com/herbalist-dies-during-sex-with-ekiti-pastors-wife/

_{Personal text: Jesus is not a theologian. He is God who told stories.}

Your responses are too lengthy and vague, it's difficult to get your points. I assume you're trying to say that homosexuality is not different from any other sin, which is true.

The problem with homosexuality though is that they think they're not committing sin and it's just a sexual orientation. An adulterer or fornicator knows that he's living in sin and tries to make adjustments but an homosexual doesn't.

chieveboy:


This is coming from this topic: https://www.nairaland.com/7513005/kenyan-gayright-activist-chiloba-killed

Fun fact: You will wind up giving birth to one that you would love dearly and can't help or...

you might reincarnate as one to balance the hate or torture you did directly or indirectly to any of such persons (gay, deaf, albinos, crippled, poor, short, etc). People reincarnate to balance stinginess or to balance the taking of life to saving it (as doctors).

It doesn't matter if you did it for a 'just' cause or if its purportedly sanctioned by a "God". Perhaps we need more lecture to assimilate the "Must" in the statement: "Whatever you sow, you Must reap". Death absolves no man.

Cont...

Nobody is given birth to as gay. It's demonic possession ( I'm not just being religious).

It's a deception of Satan that once you're born as a gay that's all, it's a lie, the person is possessed by demonic spirits and simple deliverance will cure the person. We've seen several cases.

TheFreshVanilla:
You're both sinners.

Both are sins ofcourse.

TheFreshVanilla:
No...It's english, not biology. The ones you "wasted" during masturbation have the possibilty of becoming humans if you had allowed fertilization to occur. But your selfish act of pleasure won't allow that.

Possibility of creating a child is different from killing a child that has already been created.

TheFreshVanilla:
No to abortion. But how's her doing abortion your problem? Na your body?

Don't be condemned if you've participated in it before. But know that you committed murder, the good news though is that Jesus already died for all your sins.

TheFreshVanilla:
What about the "ones" you wasted through Masturbation?

There has to be fertilization for life to emerge. That's basic biology bro.

All glory be to God.

But, please stop all this god of this person.. that person. There's only one God over the whole world. And even if you will personalize God, then it should be God my father not God of a church.

But I say unto you, That ye resist not evil: but whosoever shall smite thee on thy right cheek, turn to him the other also. Mathew 5: 39

The moment you become a Christian you've signed over the right to defend yourself to God. As a Christian you have a commandment to not defend and always justify yourself.

Forgiveness is central to the Christian life. Without mastering the art of forgiveness it will be impossible to turn the other cheek. You have to forgive even when the person that offended you didn't ask for forgiveness.

My charge to Christians today is to be willing to take ridicule, defeat, oppression without fighting back and leave it God to avenge you.

.If thine enemy be hungry, give him bread to eat; and if he be thirsty, give him water to drink: For thou shalt heap coals of fire upon his head, and the LORD shall reward thee. Proverbs 25;21-22

Abortion is murder. I don't know how people don't know this.

semmyk:
In saner climes, they do Pop quiz, lots of tests that gets aggregated.
Inbtw, you have formative and summative assessments!
Also, some tests count as class audit!
Nonetheless, the OP post appears fake or uneconomical with the truth. Yet, might be real though!

You are missing the point, you have to taught a topic before you're tested on it.

That was the first day of lecture.

SUMMIE23:
I don't know y many people are insulting the lecturer. Didn't the school release her calendar before students went on break so as to knw when they're expected back on campus?

OAU students even started exams between Christmas and New year (on 28) while some had papers on 03/01, will they stay at home and expect there supervisor to get into the examination hall and meet empty hall?

Funny enough, many of you want to japa, if you get to ur destination and a class is fixed to the same day like what just happened in Futminna, we'll all call it a system that works. But in Nigeria, the lecturer is a sadists

Just dey play wit ur double standard, blaming ur leaders for everything

Is it on the school calendar that test is on the first day of lecture? Do you even know the meaning of test?

Test is not a tool for punishment, he could have just taken attendance. Stopped supporting abuse of power.

sslcrypt:
You Africans are to be blamed. I remember when clearly phones were pricey and not easily accessible things weren't bad. Now china man came to Africa and flooded the entire continent with cheap phones and you all jumped in great excitement and awe. You praised the Chinese and insulted the west.
Have you ever Wonder no matter how messed up the west might be why things won't get as bad as this? It's because they are visionaries.
They are forward thinking and visionaries, they set threshold for everything which is reflected in their laws and watchdog institutions.
The Chinese came with cheap phones and none of your leaders had any sense of forward thinking to see the most deadly impact of it, which outweighs the pros.
As we speak Facebook in europe have purged perverts, predators and molestern at a large rate, now they are been cornered on the dark web. It's just a matter of time before they are mostly scoped up. That's because everything works with a system.

Congratulations Africa, because things will get worst. The Chinese TikTok is now been curbed across the west because the systems in place have signaled red alert. Yet in Africa people have turn into zombies for the app. Extra features on TikTok that have been rejected in the west is not be looked into in Africa. Features that will enable your daughter as young as 7 create a Love Machine or masturbating video with layers of eyes only features, is not even spoken about. Yet all you focus on is on useless worthless skits and useless challenges.

God help you all

You've been to blinded by inferiority complex that you can't even see what is clearly in front of you. It's very rare to see people in West leave secondary (high) schools as virgins. Either you are in denial or you don't know what's going on in the world.


There are way more perverts in the west than in Africa, the only good thing is that most of them are caught but a lot of them go scot-free.

Just check YouTube podcasts for the average age a girl is disvirgined abroad and you'll be shocked. Africa is backwards in a lot of ways but not morally. Things are way worse abroad.

While home training is very important, it does not guarantee anything. From personal experience and my observations it's 50-50.

I know twins( close friends of mine) that grew up in the same home. One was a serious Christian and the other one was a drug addict and street boy. It's been long I saw them so I don't know how they're doing now. But you can't necessarily blame their parents.

All you can do as a parent is do your best and train them in the way of the Lord and continue to pray for them but every individual will have choose his/her own path. You can just pray and hope that your kids choose the right path.