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Chrismario:
I understand you man, but those guys up there are younger and also plays in a better competitive league than osaze.
China would av been better, inviting our veterans in our local league sure pass, huh? Wat do you tink?

they are actually not that much younger. Iniesta is going to be 35, same for Defoe etc etc. Ok let me ask you, playing for the worst team in the chinese league and playing for the best team in the indonesian league which is better?

Icon4s:
Neglected?

So we should have neglected the trio Enyeama, Ejide and Ayenugba instead? Because we want Vanzenkin and Ajiboye in the national team?

You guys seem to forget or probably are not aware that Akpeyi and Ezenwa were also junior internationals.

Akpeyi went to the U20 with Ideye, probably the worst U20 set we have ever assembled until recent times though so what he is doing here doesn't make sense to me at all, he was poor then, he developed poorly and still is poor.

Personally Ajiboye is the best GK we have in the local league so why do you keep on hammering Ezenwa?

BascoVanVeli:
The purpose of any endorsement deal is not selling jerseys. They are basically paying u for a Nike commercial. Nike sells more than jerseys, they build their brand whenever it is seen on TV. The amount of people wearing the super eagles jersey is completely irrelevant. Nike sponsors thousands of high schools in America without selling any jersey.

On a side note, what grinds my gears is that here in Nigeria we still don't know that gatekeeping is not the only money to be made at the stadia. What about food and drinks? This should account for even more than gatekeeping. The Nigerian football experience is bellow par, we do not act like it is a business. The is almost no difference between going to the stadium or strolling to the park.

The Messi reports say it was more than a one time thing, he even had to pay staff. The fact is Argentina is still a contender to win the world cup even with their financial woes. Football is not about money it is about talent and desire. Just like America would have won a world cup a long time ago if people actually cared about men's soccer over there.

China has always been a big spender. Their basketball league has been doing this for years now but it still remains that u can't improve too much on quality when u can only have 3 foreigners in a team.

I didn't want to get involved but the main point in a sponsorship deal FOR FOOTBALL teams is how marketable your brand is, in other words football vests and boots etc etc. Why do you think Manu keeps on getting the top deals? Because they buy top players that sell shirts! And they publicize their players well enough so for football, sales matter a lot to sponsors

pelezico:
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Is Nigerian football is such a bad state that we still have to depend on these has beens - id rather Cameroon took the ticket to the WC instead

England- Defoe
Germany- Gomez
Spain- Iniesta
Brazil- Paulinho
Argentina- Mascherano etc etc

these are all guys who are well above 30, if they are in Nigeria we will start calling them 'has beens' because we have a few players either warming the bench at Man City/Werder Bremen or playing in the Austrian league.

Now for effect, Defoe played for the worst team in the Epl last season, yet he got called up, Gomez played for a team that only finished two places above relegation, yet he was invited. Paulinho plays in the chinese league yet he is invited but here in Nigeria, if you are not warming the bench in the Epl or some other 'supposed' top league you are not going anywhere. Someone from Iheanacho's family said it quite clearly, that they received an offer from Eibar either for a loan deal or a transfer and let's be honest, the lad would have developed better there but because here in Nigeria so long as we do not watch your games you become trash he decided to leave the club and go to Leicester, well I pray that works out too but that's the problem we have. For a country like Brazil playing in the Chinese league should be the height of obscurity but they invited a player from there, so why can't we invite a player from the Chinese league( Martins, since 40% of our players are playing in the chinese league anyways, no brainer here really) or the Indonesian league if they can offer us something? Osaze already made it clear that he wants to go to the World Cup with us if he is invited just like he went to the U23 as an over-aged player to offer the little he can but well you know Nigerians, let's trash him because he is 36

HIScraziness:
U are afraid of Igbo?? You have a right to be though cos if u have F in Igbo, you are not going anywhere near nnewi. But it's not as hard you u perceive it to be bruh, maybe those who failed it have been putting that fear in you. Your score is good for UNN but have it in mind that if they don't give you admission in UNN even if u scored the highest in prescience, you're gon be compensated with fisheries/zoology/botany/parasitology and entomology/ crop science ... Choose wisely isiss

Failing Igbo does not stop a medical student from going to Nnewi here in Unizik, infact the policy for this year is that GS will not affect their progress, it may or may not be continued next year but Igbo for sure does not prevent you from going to Nnewi

ISISs:
My Oga.. There's no need going to that angle.
I have a waec result b4 commn dwn to unizik prescience programme. I applied for medicine lst year with 282 jamb score buh my waec caused I loosed medicine, though got anatomy since I had c's and just 2bs in my core.. I decided to comedown and apply for prescience with that waec result, then i registered for another waec + jamb also so as to get a solid ground for medicine this year.
Somehow how its paying off now..
Am in E2, starting my exams on Monday.
Buh as it is now, am about changing my institution from unizik to UNN since am also from enugu state.

Hope this lil info clears the air? Or u want proof too?
Lol.. "what am i nt Telling u"
Am nt a novice in the medical aspiration.
So if u are suspecting lies.. Definately nt from ISISs.
Thank you.

Aiit boss, first of all last year Unizik did not use WAEC grades for admission last year, if you truly got 282 you were admitted into medicine and not Anatomy. By the way do you mind giving me your reg number for last year's Jamb? I am concerned here because I was part of the admission monitoring team for Unizik, Health Sciences/Pharm/Med/Basic medical sciences to be precise and I can tell you that 280 in fact with C parallel got Medicine merit list last year and 257 with C parallel that applied for Medicine got Medical rehabilitation instead and not Anat, there is something you are not saying bro.

I do not however doubt the fact that you may be in Psp, though I could have asked you your name so I can come and find you but I only came to the exam you wrote today, I'm not sure I will be coming again

ISISs:
I have been preparing for my final Unizik Prescience/remedial exams.
My waec is finally out Ooo..I bless God. Maths B2, Eng B3, Bio B3, Chem A1 and Phy C4. Jamb 307. My Civic education is D7. Hope it dosnt have an adverse effect.

Pls fellow mbbs aspirants, comment.

You are doing prescience and your waec result just came out? meaning you wrote waec this year? ok that is absolutely impossible because I graduated from unizik and your waec result is a prerequisite for gaining admission into the psp program so there is something you are not telling us here

Icon4s:
I understand you perfectly. In fact I am not arguing with your points. I am just looking at the issue from another angle.

Starting with your last. this is Africa. A lot of countries' economy are just hanging by the thread. The "improving facilities" you mentioned is it not based on financing? I iterate the point again that having to host with 6 venues will only mean only certain 'prosperous' countries can host.

Out of 55 or so African teams only 5 qualifies for the world cup. If you make the AFCON once in 4 years it means More than half of African teams may not kick football for 3years! Because even WC qualifiers group stage may be played by only 20 countries.

Europe can host there Euros every 4 years bc they present 16 teams to the WC. More than half of South American teams play in the WC so they too can have their copa America once in 4 years. Besides all South American teams play the WC qualifiers and they play a total of 18 matches each! Meaning no space for Copa America once in 2years. In Europe also all teams take part in WC qualifiers.

I must admit that I didn't really look at it from this angle, I was just thinking about it from the dramatic point of view, I like waiting for a top tournament. we should consider changing our world cup qualifying procedures, even Europe does theirs in such a way that all teams even Azerbaijan participates, no offence to them, that is what we should adopt if we want to start a new era

Icon4s:
Clubs are obligated by FIFA yes but players themselves may choose to withdraw for obvious reasons.

On the issue of 6 venues it means so many African countries will find it difficult hosting. Except co-hosting may have to be re-introduced. Or alternatively the AFCON would be rotated amongst the "bigger nations" with good facilities.

I still prefer the 2years staging but it should be held at the middle of the year(season's break).

A biennial tourney takes away all the drama and suspense, knowing fully well that there is another Afcon in the next two years. for example, of you are 28 and you are playing in am Afcon you know you still have at least two more Afcons to go before you retire or even three or four Afcons for Gks, you won't stress yourself too much and that's why some players can afford to boycott the tourney. But a 28 year-old playing in a world cup knows that he will be 32 by the next world cup and he wouldn't mind dying on the pitch, that's why players tend to be a lot more conservative in world cup seasons.

however they decide to share the hosting rights, the bottom line is that even small nations want to host the Afcon and they will have no other option but to improve their facilities. add to that the fact that if it is hosted every four years countries actually have a longer time to prepare, and that will rescue cost too

Icon4s:
I don't support this move by CAF. Not that quality will drop but because it means players would stay longer away from their respective clubs and that will necessitate the unwillingness on the part of the clubs to release these players.

Secondly it implies an increased budget for the hosting nations as we may need a minimum of 6 venues instead of the former 4. This may also lead to inclusion of substandard venues due to budget constraints.

IMO what needs to change about the AFCON is it's timing.

I still maintain that CHAN should be scrapped and an U21 tourney introduced in its place.

clubs can't stop a player from going to the Afcon it's in the FIFA rules so the clubs have no say really.

on the number of stadia to be used, I think it's actually a good development. this will force hosting nations to develop their local stadia and it will be to the benefit of the clubs so that all these scrappy stadia that they use for CAF tournaments will be improved

I agree, the timing should change and the interval too should be increased to four years but the number of teams should either remain 16 or increase to 32, I do not fancy the idea of a 'best loser' going on to win the tournament

If Iwobi can add a few more goals to his game I think he would be untouchable in the Arsenal XI, that said he did do very well today and the last match they played, nice signs

Humility017:
Let 's get these clear...i will be polite as much as i can
Compare your comment with Disu's comment or criticism and then spot the difference likewise everyone else comment on these matter...
But you chooses to take the boy to the cleaners...
Let me ask...who played him as a top striker in that match?
The coach did.....ryt? he didn't play himself there.
Then why trying to shamble his abilities...by saying the world class that he is....?
I never asked you if you were in medical profession because it is of no use to me.

and I never asked you if you think I hate him because it's of no use to me.

Now get the drill, you would have noticed that I put that 'world class' in quote and since you probably do not understand the meaning of that let me explain it to you, I used it because I was quoting some people here who think he is in the same rank as world class players, I obviously believe that he is not the finished article yet but criticism is relative, if someone like Giroud scores one goal when he could have scored more I will praise him, but if someone like.... Sanchez scores one in the same situation I will criticise him, so the fact that you people are making it seem like Nacho is the saviour is the reason why people monitor his games more and criticise him more, let the boy develop first before we start mentioning him as a mainstay in the Eagles team, EoD

goldfish80:
Dont pretend like you dont know Akpeyi is being made the fall guy from that game.Someone who didn't watch the game will erroneously think he scored own goals. I'm just saying for the record, Akpeyi was not the reason we lost, he didnt score an own goal,the South Africans didn't score through his legs, the ball didnt slip through his fingers and into the net. His only sin was that he didnt hack down a player running at full speed and collect a red card, while we were already a goal down with 3 minutes left on the clock (we have exhausted our substitutions at this point).

Trying to leave out Ndidi,kelechi,Iwobi,Awaziem,Ekong,Shehu,Echejile,Etebo and to an extent Onazi of any blame and aim digs at Akpeyi, shows weakness and insincerity.

I know some spread sheet fans will come for my head for saying this, but I dont mind. I will always blow my whistle.

TheGoodJoe is blaming him to a larger extent because he always believed that the strongest part of his game is his ball playing ability but a keeper who plays the ball well would have quickly closed down the striker. If you watch that passage of play again, the guy knocked the ball forward and raced towards it, a good goalkeeper who positions himself well like Bravo would have been better positioned to reach the ball quicker than Akpeyi did. And when he got to the ball his decision making was poor, he wasted valuable seconds asking himself if he really wanted to get this red card and when he decided it was the right thing to do, the SA guy was already 2meters behind him.
However I agree that all blame should not go to Akpeyi when from our strike force down to the left side of our defence was just pure whack. I will only spare Ekong and Shehu plus Moses Simon to an extent, the rest were just poor probably due to the poor tactics of the manager or spending a longer time camping and playing hopeless friendly games against Corsica, other nations played their own friendlies after the qualifiers and against top teams too

Humility017:
Still don't understand why keep painting the lad black just to nail him...
Sum up courage to tell us that you just don't like him near the SE. ...similar hatred you once had towards onazi and mikel. ...

Let me be clear and sincere, if you are just going to quote me to make nonsensical and baseless comments then don't quote me ever again.

Somebody will be saying something about a players input to the team and you are talking about hatred, why would I hate them? Do they have any business with my medical profession? If I criticise a player that does not mean I hate the player, and that's all I will say about this useless claim that I hate some players

zicky:
Moses shield 2 players and Nacho shield no one only tapped the ball to Etebo, guy fear god.
Bros which is more efficient, lobbing the ball to a target man or playing a defence splitting pass

I am damn sure you only watched highlights of that game so I will not reply your first point which is laughable at best.
Your second point is just crazy, of course playing a long ball to a target man is way easier than playing a defence splitting pass, your point is?

BascoVanVeli:
Moses didn't hold up anything for Pete sake the boy tapped a loose ball to Nacho. It still depends on the passing all the same. If the ball doesn't make it to his area then how does he hold the ball up?

watch the game again, Moses was shielding the ball from 2 SA defenders I think, then tapped the ball to Nacho who tapped it to Etebo.

Passing to a target man is easier than trying to play defence splitting passes obviously, it wouldn't have been difficult for them to do

BascoVanVeli:
However you want to paint the story fits u but I know that Nacho waited for Etebo's run, hence bringing him into the game. We didn't build up well enough. Our midfield madly needed Mikel, everyone seemed content playing chucking long balls.

see the picture I am painting now, Moses Simon found himself in the box and despite how small he is, he managed to help create a very good chance, if Etebo had scored, the assist would have gone to Nacho and Moses will be totally forgotten but we would have won so nobody would care. Now let's say Nacho was able to do what Moses did like 3 times, he may not have gotten an assist but we would have scored, that is what Disu is saying, the CF does not really need to score, just help create chances and we are good to go

junnyjake:
I agree, he lost his goal scoring form under Flores.

I'm not blaming Walter of any wrong.

It's only natural for players to lose form, many recover from that and even become better players than they were.

Would you agree with me that a contrast in playing/managerial style of a coach can affect a player?

Don't forget, Denney was also affected and we had players like capoue, (abi wetin be him name) Okaka taking over the goal-scoring responsibility.

I am not saying that the coach was great, just that players lose form naturally sometimes as you mentioned

Certitude:
Una don't start... which one be Rohr isn't the most tactical manager again

everyone knows that easily

BascoVanVeli:
How did we have a good first half if u say our striker didn't bring others in the game? How did Etebo get his chance didn't Iheanacho bring him into the game? We are talking about midfielders basically lobbing the ball straight to the keeper.
Btw who said Nacho was World Class? We pray and hope he will be but lets not turn this into a comedy show.

First of all, zero shot on target isn't a good half. Second, it was Moses simon that held up the ball, poked it to Nacho who squared to Etebo so it was virtually Moses that brought them into the game. If you play football, you will know that nothing is sweeter than 'touch and go' which the midfielders were doing till they get to the final third but because Nacho was only concerned with playing off the shoulder of the last man, they couldn't do that with him all game long

BascoVanVeli:
I watched the full match a few times and I still say he didn't get service. I had always said Nacho would be better as a SS if u remember I brought up his stats in both positions but my claim has little to do with his position. He was not poor against SA.

So when the service did not come what did he do as the 'world class' player he is? He didn't bring others into the game, that's the basic point here

junnyjake:
Well, he's replaced by Marco Silva who impressed with hull city, let's hope he brings out the best in "Isaac success"

Ighalo started flopping even before Sanches Flores left, let's not blame any coach, he lost form simple

tbaba1234:
You are looking for trouble. I remember talking about how poor Kelechi was against Algeria and my head was almost swallowed.

Kelechi's best games for Nigeria have come when he played behind the main striker. Playing him as a top man has not worked.

The Disu guy is even confused, we played a 4-2-3-1 on the day and he said we played a 4-3-3, though I wouldn't blame him because Rohr isn't the most tactical manager there is. I do however agree with everything else he said thought, he made point

do4luv14:
I think you are talking about BERTI VOGTS, abi its LARS LAGERBERG

Lars Lagerback my brother

tbaba1234:
I understand Rohr has threatened to resign over interference. One loss and all the Hyenas come out.. They should leave the man alone Biko. Apart from the loss, we have been progressing. The loss might be the wake up call we needed to avoid overconfidence and complacency.

the problem I think with the loss was how we got totally outplayed with no worthy plan B. it wasn't just the loss, this guy that led us to the 2010 world cup although we didn't qualify from the group stage but we still wanted to retain him because we actually played very well against top teams too. this loss was embarrassing that too against SA, perennial underachievers.....and don't give me that crap that they are now a strong team, they almost beat us the last time but still got humiliated at the nation's cup

Icon4s:
So name that 'Big striker na'.

BTW nobody dey mention Stephen Odey here again.

forgiveness named a lot, Adi etc

Icon4s:
Including Stephen Odey naa.

he is hardly a target man so no

Icon4s:
I also believe in Big Centre forwards.

But mention one now that you feel deserves a starting place that will put Iheanacho on the bench against Cameroon.

Well considering that all these guys scored more than Nacho this past season they do have a claim

forgiveness:
Fanendo Adi dey, Abraham dey, Solanke dey, Simeon Nwankwo dey, Sadiq Umar etc

if you call Sadiq Umar's name ever again we go get issues

Icon4s:
As simple as 1+1=2 . Right?

And your opponents would be applauding as you do all these.

No offence but if Anthony Joshua tells you that he will come to your house and knock you out what will you do? you might square up against him like I would definitely square up against him but I probably can't change the inevitable. That's just how it is, you can only influence what you have the power to influence

Icon4s:
It easier to cast blames.

Iheanacho was (still is) our best striker going into that game.

What I thought the coach could have done was to Play Iheanacho and Kayode together in that second half. And then swapped roles between Etebo and Iwobi.

Ogu ke? You think wining of headers is all only about height? And besides I hope you know that most defenders and midfielders, even those that are good aerially, find it difficult to keep the heading on target. They mostly head wide.

BTW Anichebe for real? You mean this thing?

I didn't say I want Anichebe just that Komekn mentioned players like him.

when you start playing long balls you don't attempt to head the ball on target, you just knock it down for your teammates or you flick it towards them and yes Ogu has strong aerial abilities so I believe he can dominate the air in the opponents half of the pitch.

TheGoodJoe:
We are not talking about when things get out of hand but how the modern day coaches prefer to set up their teams.

this means that you have failed to understand what we are arguing. we are not taking about modern coaches here, we are talking about what concerns us, Nigerian teams presently. modern coaches in modern leagues might prefer a flashy 9 but here in Africa we still play this kinda game that makes it difficult for slippery strikers to thrive so you either adapt or get left behind. Nacho might be a wonderful striker at club level but for the national team playing in Africa he could be utterly useless there because he will be marked out. nobody is here to argue about modern coaches because this is not a thread for European teams