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forgiveness:
Watch his team with clear conscience.

You do know I was joking right Dude, Aigbogun as Nigerian coach? Seriously

darkelf:
Ohhhhh. I see....some diehard fans haven't learnt still.

Keep making excuse for mediocre player. Kwatinue

Did you just say that Mikel has always been above average at best? Dude, how many bottles did you take at the bar today? When you get sober, get you a good tape of our Afcon 2013 campaign and after watching the games there, come back and say that again.

TheSuperNerd:
Isi gini? Aigbo.... what? Bia Nwokem... Oya back to your room

. Na so you hate the guy reach?

forgiveness:
How?

OK first of all I don't think Chukwueze would have been a good fit for this game no.

I think Musa and Kalu were okay, the problem was with the tactics, Musa kept on running inside and Kalu too. Now imagine if Musa and Kalu both stay wide, as in very wide that means they will keep the two fullbacks very honest and they too will shift wide, then add the fact that Aina and Awaziem will be doubling up on the flanks then the Madagascans will have no choice but to push two extra players to the wings, so that means we have effectively pushed out four Madagascans from the middle, with Ndidi and Iwobi pushing forward to support Ighalo that means we will have three of our players against their six players, and if Etebo pushes high up the field too they will have to commit one player to him and that reduces it to 3 against 5 in their box, the bus effectively no longer exists. This is exactly what Manchester City does every single day, it is amazing that a top coach like Rohr does not know this basic bus breaking technique.


But the main problem is that the Madagascans did not exactly park the bus, they played counterattacking football, their striker was always in our half waiting for the ball and they had two players close to him all the time, so they effectively parked the bus with 7 players, for goodness sake Madagascar managed to shut out Nigeria for 90minutes with only 7 players. I think the commentator at some point said they will tire, but what they did was effective, since Nigeria only had one wide player on each flank, they kept on changing their own players that were marking them and their own players had enough time to recuperate, we did not make them suffer for this win, it was a comfortable win. But for Ezenwa's save and anticipation it could have been 4-1 and nobody would have said they didn't deserve it, because the only chance we got was a defensive error from them as well.

TheSuperNerd:
TheGoodJoe is even captain of this team. He is with us. Mickael2 is also in this camp. Truly Rohr will not take us to the promised Land.

I know his positives and I have praised it severally...BUT... He is not just brave enough and inventive enough to make the best use of the rise of another golden pool of young super talents in Nigerian football.

I have given the man time. He is not our Joshua.

I think Paul Aigbogun should be appointed

somehow:
Rohr is an average coach.

Not tactical

Can't read games

And a bad decision maker.

This game further exposed him.

He is one dimensional, he has one tactical plan and if that is not working he has nothing else to fall back on.

BascoVanVeli:
Too many changes. Sentiments will kill this team. Leon Balogun has made that mistake before but people overlooked time and time again. Algeria, Libya and now.

Btw I hope this next opinion kills some people but the key to unlocking a park the bus team was dropped. Kelechi Iheanacho is the only one who could shoot from outside the box everyone else just kick's and pray.

Bros, when was the last time Iheanacho actually hit the target with a shot??

forgiveness:
Exactly! When a team parks the bus, all you need is a good crosser of ball and a players that can use their head to score.

No bro, you need to stretch the team. Crossing the ball will just play into the hands of the defending team.

charlesemeka85:
U no Sabi watch Ball. Moses is a better team player

I don't understand all the attacks on Simon, he has been covering very well for the defence and has been putting in a decent shift in attack.

Humility017:
let mikel come in for etebo and chuks in for simon and for ighalo he should be made to know that musa and him are team mates and not in a competition

Sub out Etebo who has been way better than Iwobi? No dey use sentiments dey watch ball, that is very very bad.

Humility017:
sorry to say....
you're a serial hypocrite.
you call and recongnised this players simply because they're not Nigerians...

the only african players you recognized doing well outside England are the non nigerians...

mind you the guy who scored senegal's stunning second goal plays in Belgium I doubt if he is better than oshimen...


but you don't mind name that guy and downplay oshimen....all because of your hypocritic nature...

and here you're accusing some one I bring over patriotic when you were never patriotic.

you should be avoided at all cost...and asked to go open your 3 lions thread....
I really think one of this days we should face this thing together...me and you.
and watch you misuse those your lopsided parameters and speak your English that hold no waters....
I see probably you've an inferiority complex..
I am very disappointed in you....by those words you spew up there

So you want him to pick Omeruo ahead of Koulibaly? Abi Chukwueze ahead of Keita Balde?

phamarsenal:
Spot on with ur analysis bro...ndidi sometimes forgot he is a DmF and his primary objective was to shield d backs four, there were occasions where he was at d final third and we left us vulnerable to counter attacks...against a better team DAT would HV cost us

Someone else saw what I pointed out and even better than I did.

I think it was Ndidi that was supposed to be the main DMF with Etebo the CMF so I believe the blame goes to him, hence if someone is to be benched it has to be him and not Etebo.

ILLICITblood:
personally i believe our midfielders had a good game yesterday

Even the best of DMFs get bypassed

The Burundians played well thus created some good scoring chaces but Ndidi and Etebo both had a good game IMO


Nice observations though

i always look forward to your analysis

One Love

We are actually saying different things.

They had a good game controlling the flow of the game, yes.

They had a good game moving forward, yes.

But they had a poor game shielding the defence line. I really don't think that the same thing happening five or six times equates to 'sometimes' hence the need to work on it.

One love

TheGoodJoe:
I wonder if he even watched the game. If he did, he would not even ask because those passes from Musa were awful. However I would excuse Musa because he was not playing with his natural foot. He was repeatedly forced to use the outside of his right foot.

The passes weren't awful but just say that the defenders anticipated the passes. It was more of the defender did well, than Musa did not pass well. I do not see the basis behind starting Chuks, if we want to point out errors, there was on instance where Iwobi was right in front of Chuks and he kicked the ball out for a throw trying to locate Aina who was miles away when a simple pass made more sense, there was also a counter where he skinned the first guy then instead of simply squaring for Onuachu he tried a banana pass which the defence was all so glad to cut out. Full of tricks yes, but atrocious decision making, I don't see why he will start ahead of Musa if you ask me, he has his own decision making flaws, but IMHO, he is an upgrade on Chuks. See how Musa's direct running won us a corner as well, I can go on.



Anyways. I don't know why it seems like I watched a different match that wasn't exactly fulfilling. The Burundians created at least 5 3 on 2 situations against our CB, they created well over 4 clear cut chances and if not for a combo of poor passes, poor finishing and a rare GK save, we would have been talking about 3 goals conceded, factually the Burundians bypassed our midfield like it did not even exist, there was a particular 3 on 2 situation where one of the Burundians was unable to give a 2 yard pass to his teammate who would have been one on one. Or should I mention the chance where they skinned Ekong and had a clean run at goal but the guy messed up? Arguably, from an attacking sense this might have been an okayish game, but the midfield and defence were atrocious, that too against Burundi, the worst team in the tournament (statistically). I really am glad that Rohr has come out to acknowledge that the team was poor at least they will work on it. Ndidi and Etebo forget their jobs of shielding the defence multiple times in the game which is why I agree that one of them ought to be axed for Mikel to sit deep entirely, however I would suggest Ndidi is dropped because Etebo is a better shuttle that can move the ball higher up the pitch.

All in all I think the only place we had real issues was with the two DMFs not doing their job, I don't think we would have defeated a better team at all.

Brilliant from Chukwueze

safarigirl:
New Zealand played Cameroon for Round of 16 and Cameroon won. They play England on Sunday

No na, na their last group match be that

Oasis007:
Burundi played better than us in the first half. They had more goals on target than us, and as well tactically disciplined.

None of our Players deserves accolade in the first half. Onuachu was highly disappointed. Ighalo is far better than him, sentiment apart. The Dude couldn't even useful in the Air despite his Height.

I am legitimately confused, it seems as though I an watching a different game. We have had static possession all game long, our best chances have come from set pieces and they haven't even been clear cut chance, I wouldn't count the Mikel header as one. On the other hand the Burundians have been moving the ball from defence to attack in milliseconds and if not for good goalkeeping, luck and poor finishing they could have had one or two goals. I really don't understand how anyone is impressed with this

So much for Chukwueze

safarigirl:
Good morning

At the end of voting, it was decided by our threadmates that Ronaldinho is a more technical player than Xavi, havinf edged him out 13-9

Cc Mickael2, forgiveness, Andrew44, icon4s,islayer, elyte89, tbaba1234, AIG07, and other concerned parties

Thank you

TheGoodJoe:
What Mickael2 is trying to pass is that there is more reliance on tactical acumen than technical ability in the modern game.

A good example is De Bruyne who is very gifted on the ball but his play relies a lot on the movements of his team mates. You can see CR7 when he first came to Manchester United and how Alex Ferguson carved him into being more positional with his play and reading of gaps in the opposition defence.

I think we are saying the same thing just that you are using tactical awareness while I am using technicality.

Personally I believe tactical awareness is one of the things that makes a player a technical player. Primarily I believe there are two things that can make a player stand out as a technical player;
1) Ability on/to control the ball.
2) Tactical awareness.

Naturally ability on the ball here means knowing what to do with the ball, making the right decisions, why dribble a player when you can simply pass and evade? You may be one of the best dribblers out there but in most cases you'd rather just use a simple pass to evade 3 persons, Iniesta does that a lot, dude can beat players, 3 at a time even, but he'd rather pass and evade. Ronaldinho would normally spend 20 seconds beating one player while Xavi can move the ball from defence to attack within 10 seconds without needing to beat a player, pick the right passes, at the right angle and to the right person.

Then tactical awareness comes in. Football sometimes can be an instinctive game, but the player's ability to imbibe the coach's instructions into his natural instincts makes him a technical player.

Earthquake3:
Technique and tactics are used interwovenly

Awareness of space and time are all grouped under technique so can't say Ronaldinho is better than Xavi in that aspect

Cc TheGoodJoe

Exactly my point.

Like iSlayer has been pointing out, tactical input is more of the coach's job, so the more a player can implement the coach's tactical directions with the ball at his feet, that is the more he is able to command the ball to go to where he wants., at the pace he wants and when he wants(according to the coach's tactical directions) makes the player a technical player for me.

Just because you can dribble or you have a nice shot does not mean you are technical. Technical players are the ones that have perfected the passing game, works well in tight spaces and can control the flow of a game.

Cc theGoodJoe

forgiveness:
Ronaldinho is more technical than all those players your listed. From dribbling technique, to shooting technique, to passing technique etc overall aggregate, Ronaldinho is far technical.

Let's vote sha.

Abeg Earthquake3 andrew444 Chriskels safarigirl humility icon4s basco theGoodJoe Dann(can't remember the full name now sha, the Liverpool guy), and everyone else viewing this thread:

Who is more technical between Ronaldinho and Xavi

forgiveness:
How many technical players Chelsea take win UEFA champions League?

How many technical player dey Atletico Madrid get?

Let's just say you don't know the meaning of a technical player.

Saul, Koke, Rodri are highly technical players, let us just say you don't watch La Liga games

forgiveness:
It doesn't change the fact that dribbling is the main technique. Others can be learnt.

The reason Ronaldinho remains the most technical player in the world in this modern era.

When you talk about technical players why would you put Ronaldinho ahead of Pirlo? Not to talk of Xavi and Iniesta? Dude, I am going to drop this but just know that saying Ronaldinho is more technical than even Busquets means you do not understand the term at all.

forgiveness:
It is. You mean Iniesta, Xavi and Pirlo can't dribble!?


Basic techniques in Football

Playing football is a fun thing and it also nourishes our body. Many people who make football as a hobby, and there is also a make as a profession. To be able to play soccer well, you have to master basic technique in soccer. When cuman rely on speed is not enough. So what are the techniques in football?

Dribble

Dribbling in soccer is the main thing. Because dribbling is one of the basic techniques in football. The foot used in dribbling equals the foot used to kick the ball. The dribbling aims to approach the distance of the targets, passing through the opponent and blocking the game. Spilling fundamentally is isolated into two: shut spilling and speed spilling. Shut spilling is finished with full control over the ball, done when the ball is not by any stretch of the imagination safe from our adversary.

In shut spilling, the ball can not be more than 1 meter before our feet. The speed spilling just has one course: speed.

At speed spilling, we spill with a keep running as quick as could reasonably be expected. Should be possible by kicking the ball forward then we seek after as hard as could reasonably be expected. Be that as it may, the requirements, we are totally free from the adversary's request


https://steemit.com/sports/@mirzasaputra/basic-techniques-in-football

I am certain you read where I said even the ones that can dribble will rather just pass the ball around.

Anybody who, in this modern world, believes dribbling is the most important thing in football is lost. How many midfielders in Liverpool's team can dribble? None. How many for Barca? None. Football is now concerned with what you can do with the ball, how you manipulate the ball, I really don't know what else to tell you but if you believe that dribbling means technicality then goodluck

forgiveness:
You mean the Germans can dribble and has good techniques? Huh!

Tactics wins games nowadays not techniques.

I thought the French has the tallest in the tournament?

No matter how good your tactics are, if you don't have technical players to implement the tactics you are gone.

AIG07:
you think all that is to football techniques Is dribbling.

What happens to BALL CONTROL, PASSING, SHOOTING, CROSSING? These are the techniques in soccer and the Germans are better.

The only above Average SFs technical player is Ordega. Then this young girl Okeke

Ordega is average. It is usually very difficult to find a technical winger, leave Ordega for average.

forgiveness:
Dribbling is the main technique while others you listed can be learn.

All our players have all these basic techniques you listed though at different levels but it's not all that is needed to win games. Tactics remains the advance level and the most important for winning games.

Barcelona Vs Chelsea 2012 semi final

Technique Vs tactic.

Bros, dribbling is not the main technique not even close. What AIG listed is what you mean by technique.

When Barcelona is termed a highly technical team it is because of their ability to pass well, move well and break defences by doing exactly what the coach wants. How many technical players can dribble? Xavi? Pirlo? Iniesta? Busquets? Even those that can dribble would rather just use passes and kill you, that's technicality

elyte89:
It depends on d situation


Cos if d Germans re leading by 2-nil,without no hope of equalizing, den no point watching d 2nd half

We go just concentrate on eagles match jejely

But from what I av read so far abt d Germans on this thread dt,dey re not dt gud,I hope it turns out dt way,


Cos d Germans I knw,are a strong female footballing nation

They are an efficient side. I don't know oh, but win they will, but it will be slim. All their matches that I watched, they just did the needful without stressing themselves too much....that was until they met South Africa and decided they don't like black people. And we are black too so...

safarigirl:
Saturday, 22 June 2019 4:30 PM- Germany vs Nigeria

Saturday, 22 June 2019- Nigeria v Burundi 6:00PM.

Hopefully, It's double celebration

We no go watch first half be that

Earthquake3:
The English struggled to beat Argentina, it seems like you're not following this word cup

Cameroon has a huge chance against them

He is just afraid of the name. I will legit take England 7 times out of 6 if I am asked.

The kind calculations I dey see here eh, I no even know when them come make Thailand subject of the equation then changed it back to Argentina before making New Zealand vs Cameroon a variable. I commot cap for the guys here I swear