₦airaland Forum

overhypedsteve:
these are the kind of pictures that we want to see. Gentlemen there you have it, The Nigerian Backed Intervention in the Gambia have led to the removal of the Gambian Dictator Mr Yahaya Jammeh and for this reason the Gambian people cannot hold back their joy as they wave the colors of our nationhood. There is nothing anybody can say about it. Gambia is a textbook example of how to remove a dictator peacefully.

Not necessarily.



Can't be applied anywhere.

Denel Dynamics' Ground-based Launcher System(Uses the Umkhonto surface to air missile) and the Saab multi-mission Giraffe AMB surveillance radar in South Africa during test firings last year.

Umkhonto Flight Test 2016 Final


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rpBgBvDeaNM&itct=CA8QpDAYACITCN3C0o6c4tECFdSQVQodhlEGfDIHcmVsYXRlZEjPsdWr3_ex7gc%3D&client=mv-google&hl=en-GB&gl=ZA

giles14:
wots ur led-150 system all about

Here's a video about the LED-150 active protection system.
LEDS System Fires Back at RPGs

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OZKM0Ve8PiI&gl=ZA&hl=en-GB&client=mv-google

giles14:
wots ur led-150 system all about

Here's a video about the LED-150 active protection system.
LEDS System Fires Back at RPGs

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OZKM0Ve8PiI&gl=ZA&hl=en-GB&client=mv-google

kikuyu1:
You're missing the point! Tell me why the otherwise excellent Rooivalk which has been around for almost 20 years isn't selling and the 3 year old Rudra with its Hind role is highly sought after.

Marketing was stopped until the helicopter's deployment to the DRC.

The reason the Rooivalk never received orders was because of the SANDF budget cuts and operational usage.

kikuyu1:
Btw,S Africans I have news for you. India will soon in 6 years at the latest overtake you and be a major arms exporter. Their products aren't only cost effective,top quality and indigenous but fill a very real role warfighting role.
For proof of this look no further than the Rudra. Its meant to be a combi gunship and carry a half section with a rear ramp.

[img]http://4.bp..com/-dYA-kwI0Y8k/Ur5EhYPh3tI/AAAAAAAAhCw/pl2GOhp-Jck/s1600/Indian+Rudra+Armed+Utility+Helicopter+and+Light+Combat+Helicopter+(LCH).jpg[/img]

Still relatively new its last tests were done in early 2013. Already its selling and an African country is seeking a coproduction agreement. You guys have a top quality gunship in a crowded field fighting for sales with Hinds,Havocs,Tigers,Apaches, Kamovs and even Apaches. Point being? The Rudra is what armies want! If you guys had gone for a Rooivalk light model like the AH 6 or Hughes 530 with greater capacity than these models but a correspondingly lesser price tag than the 25-30 mn$ a piece for the standard Rooivalk you'd have had success.
I hate to say it but I doubt you'll get anything beyond a purchase probe in this market.

The Rooivalk was developed or exists because there's was and still a need for it.

The price tag of the Rooivalk is unknown but said to be cheaper than the Apache.

Those upgraded light utility helicopters will never fill the role of heavy attack helicopters.

Henry240:
Nemesis you have any ideas on the main gun of a the German army Puma IFV?

It's a 30mm revolver gun.

Used on the Mantis air defence system. It is able to fire programmed ammunition such as the tungsten pellets filled AHEAD ammunition.


One of the most advanced guns mounted on an IFV currently.

giles14:
wots ur led-150 system all about

It is an active protection system for vehicles combining soft and hard kill capabilities.


The hard kill capability means the system is able to counter incoming kinetic munition(Anti-tank missiles, RPGs, Tank rounds etc) by destroying them down with the Denel dynamics Mogoose missiles metres away from the vehicle.

Similar to the Trophy system on the Israeli Merkeva main battle tanks.

These systems increase the survivability of vehicles and it's crew in an operational area littered with ATGMs.

A few countries South Africa being one of them possess this technology.

africaken254:
off topic :ISIS has release a video of a T-90 which turret was penetrated ,after being hit with an ATGM which cause ammo cook-off.here is a screen shot

Denel like in the late 90s(when the UAV market was still dominated by a few countries) is again fast asleep!!

Proliferation of active protection systems is inevitable.

Main battle tanks can't absorb modern ATGMs hits. This should have galvanized Denel and Saab to invest massively into to the LED-150 system and marketing it more aggressively.

Patchesagain:
SANDF ORBAT

Bloody mess!
Good this will change.

Patchesagain:
Either way, the term Commando would be incorrect.

Frankly, there is only one set of Commandos who still exist and they are in the service of Her Majesty Queen Elizabeth.

And they only just slip into the ambit of "SOF"

Not really.

Some unit is organized into "commandos".

nemesis2u:
OFB MPV tested to survive blast of 46-50 kg RDX under hull

Can be easily mistaken for a Casspir by a novice eye.

Henry240:
We are well aware the Tejas should replace the MIG-21, but doesn't the AMCA signal the death of the Tejas?

With the AMCA you might get and F-16 E/F, Gripen E/F, Advanced Super-Hornet or MIG-35. So, where then does the Tejas fit in the overall force structure?

Sovereign capability over actual operational requirements.

Seems there are a lot divas in SADC.
Waxies.

Henry240:
South African special forces


Why is that commando wearing pink shoes?

We'll just pretend we didn't see this post.

Henry240:
Senegalese army AML's in Gambia.


Where is that South-African that loves the AML vehicles. Please can anyone recall his moniker, so I can tag him in this photo.

@Hrmnn

nemesis2u:
republic day rehearsal parade

Are the camels utilised in specialist units?

Khamal battalion.

nemesis2u:
2.75-inch rockets for Rudra, LCH & LUH

Thales fin folfing rockets.

The FZ275LGR is still in development.

africaken254:
museveni is really pissed ,this is what he said on twitter "Gambia is a sovereign state, any invasion by her neighbours is unwarranted & unlawful. I condemn in strongest terms possible".after seeing what will happen in gambia ,people are going to go shopping for new tools in russia,china,Bulgaria e.t.c

Wonder why didn't say a thing about Lesotho.

Nok234:
He is already afraid

Scared?


You know UPDF is not a rebel force right?

No army in Southern Africa is good or experienced in division sized ops. Brigade and below yes.

africaken254:
lead doesn't discriminate. ECOWAS intervention force need to deploy also mechanized forces

Impossible.

Motorized light forces will be enough.

nemesis2u:
depends on how they r used by the airforce

see my explanation above.

but in the end everybody has his/her way of looking at things so no sweat

its like both of us eyeing the same girl

u r like i will bamboozle the girl with sweet talk

i am like all for direct action from the word go..... ( thanks to my unofficial self bestowed PHD in kamasutra )

but in the end it depends on the girl as much as a aircraft's potency depends on the pilot and his tactics

The girl's name is Doctrine.

kikuyu1:
Nemesis2u,been meaning to ask:
-what will the Rafale do the Su 30 can't or won't? The IAF wants 2 squadrons and I thought both were deep strike air superiority FSBs? Or did I miss smth?
-what's the maintenance of the Su really like? Is she as service hungry as everyone says? I saw recently the flight line availability was only 50% set to rise to 60%?!
Damnnnnn!

In short the SU-30 takes the fight deep into enemy territory.

The Rafale is a medium fighter.

Hrmnn:
Hi all.

I recently found these photos of what appears to be a Ratel with a very unusual gun-turret. Looks to be much larger than a 90mm, perhaps a 100mm or 105mm? Any relation to the iklwa?

As I have not seen this variant before I was wondering if some of you Saffer okes could shed some light on it. Apologies if it's been posted before.

I assume it's an export model by Denel or something, as the crew posing next to it in the second picture don't appear to be wearing SANDF uniforms.

It is not a Ratel.

It's the SIBMAS! They are both made from the same prototype.

Someone in the future will ask a similar question regarding the Badger and the Rosomak IFV.

Odunayaw:
really
you know the mi35m's weapons suite?
u heard of hermes-k ATGM with 30km range? let me be fair- the vikhr ATGM or kornet EM?
the mi35M can carry AAMs too
russian ugroza laser guidance kit can be added to dumb rockets too you know?



i was talking about the aircraft itself

I see Hermes-K right here!

iblawi:
Is this for carrying troops?


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4UY5Sb674VQ

Strafing runs!
What does this video prove tell me?

Odunayaw:
Ataka ATGM/Kornet-EM/Vishk igla V AAM s5,s8,s13 rockets (with ugroza laser kit)
you were saying?

Hermes-k is carried by KA-52k.
Line of sight!
I don't see you proving the Hermes-l is intergrated on the Hind e-warrior.

tdayof:
Give me 2 I will give you five.

You can't provide them.
moving along!

tdayof:
Ceiling
SU 27: 62,523 ft
SU30: 56,800 ft
Mitsibuishi F-2: 59,000 ft
Rafale:50,000 ft

Climb rate:
SU 27: 59,000 ft/min
SU 30: 45,275 ft/min
F-2: 48,000 FT/min
rafale:60,000ft/min
Range
Su27: 3,530 km
su 30: 3,000km
f2: 4,000km
rafale: 3,700km


If you can justify rooivalk to be the best AH in terms of performance with the above, then the SU27 is the king among the above aircrafts.

Lemons and apples!

Ask Nemesis why India loves the Cheetah helicopter!

Odunayaw:
really
you know the mi35m's weapons suite?
u heard of hermes-k ATGM with 30km range? let me be fair- the vikhr ATGM or kornet EM?
the mi35M can carry AAMs too
russian ugroza laser guidance kit can be added to dumb rockets too you know?



i was talking about the aircraft itself

Hermes-k is carried by KA-52k.

List weapon intergrated on the Mi-35M hind E!

Odunayaw:
you are so adamant the mi35M is an AH first before a troop carrier

Citation please!

kabe1:
More Rubbish!


The MI-24 is unofficially known as the Flying Tank, not a flying IFV.


Unlike an IFV, the MI-24 carries 8 troops as a secondary role, not a primary role. It is a gunship, an attack helicopter as it's primary role.


The MI-35 is the world's most heavily armed, most heavily armoured attack helicopter. It is a Tank killer, designed to support the SU-25 in combat.

I'm not referring to largeness of any helicopter. The stats show the MI-35m produces more power than the Rooivalk. The Rooivalk cannot magically have a better performance. You can't cheat physics.

The Rooivalk carries a weak 20mm gun with an effective range of only 2 Km. While the MI-35m carries a twin barrel 23mm with an over 5km effective firing range.


The MI-35m can also carry 16 Air-to-ground missiles. Has the latest navigational suite, target sight system, location range finder and the latest laser range finder.


The fact is, the MI-35m, MI-28NE and the Apache attack helicopters are currently by a long shot the most advanced helicopters in Africa. The Rooivalk comes in at a very distant 4th.

Again that's his a nickname!

It performs well at sea level conditions! Why do you think the Indians are pursuing that attack helicopter with better hot and high performance. It isn't cheating anything but you failing to comprehend things.

The F-2 round is 20×139mm this means the round is longer with flatter trajectory. 250m to beyond 5km.

The GSh-23 round is 23×115mm this means the round is bigger in diameter then the 20×139mm but shorter.

This F-2 has a higher muzzle velocity now explain to us! What does this mean?


The Hind makes strafing runs similar to fixed wing aircraft.

Again the missiles the helicopter carries exposes her to danger. Unlike missiles the Hellfire with enables Apache to fully take advantage of it's N.O.E capabilities.

Also explain to me what is "location range finder and the latest laser range finder"? Dude just say it you are augubugubu!