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agaugust:
Your Oryx and Rooivalk uses them, but you import while we manufacture.

The Oryx gunship only uses a 20mm gun.

Henry240:
Plate carriers it is, for any mission. A compact bulletproof vests fits in seamlessly with any mission requirement.

Not in Africa.

Remember the Vice video? where Nigerian soldiers had to march to Bama in columns?

denisfidha:
Renewed resolve

Reaction.
Unsustainable. Ops will start to wind-down soon.

Patchesagain:
Sorry, what I ment is more comprehensive med-aid bags - not just somma a plaster and bandage.

Buddy aid.

It is for chaps to help each other before the medic/doctor arrives. Like they can stop bleeding, cover wounds etc.

jln115:
We have enough Blue Force Trackers for 4 Brigades.....It came as part of Project Legend, which included the Chaka C2 system.

Yes, I meant tracking every soldier with the Impi device.

Meaning every soldier will appear on the Chaka C2, enhancing control.

Patchesagain:
- tactical vests are better in the bush. Seen american soldiers lumbering around in videos in A-stan? Even the Americans after Joint Accord I commented on how quickly our guys moved in the bush.

- Yet it provides limited protection against frag

- Side arms are meaningless, moving away from rifles to carbines is a more meaningfull improvement.

- Meh... there is a circular argument about boots right now. Leather ones provide better support, last longer and provide more warmth when it gets cold (like in the desert), material ones are lighter.

More meaningfull improvements would be:
- individual comms sets
- personal med aid-bags
- optics for weapons
- carbines
- better load bearing harnesses
- lighter squad MG's (South AFrica did this with the SS-77 [pics])

The R4 with a 50 mag is used in the SAW role in the SANDF.

First aid can be carried in the vest. and it is.

And oh you forgot: Blue force tracker down to every infanteer.

Henry240:
Tactical vests and bulletproof should be a single unit. Not two different items.

Why?

Only major western nations do that.


Plate carriers are also heavy.

Henry240:
Only the OPS Core helmets and Side arms can go to specialised units. The others would remain for the Infantry man. Also a change of service rifle, more mordernised rifles chambered in the 7.62, 5.45 should remain with specialised units.

Tactical vests?

Henry240:
"Why, why?" ........ It's a basic gear that's why. Makes soldiers look smart and very photogenic.



-Besides bulletproof vest shouldn't come separate from the Tactical vest. They should be one single unit.


- the OPS Core FAST helmet is currently the best in the world, it stops 7.62mm at close range.


- Secondary side arm should be a compulsory asset.


- the old boats are to heavy, soldiers should all switch to the more efficient, durable and light boats.

Specialised infantry not regulars.

Henry240:
A basic African Soldier should at the very least look like this.

Why?

denisfidha:
Posted by a Somali resident. Allegedly the aftermath of a Kenyan airstrike.so far a total of 26 known shebab camps have been wiped out of existence by KAF, which is not part of AMISOM. Imagin the damage we could do if every amisom sector had a bad ass airwing

Reaction.

gottfried21:
You want nukes?

Great time to be a keyboard warrior.

agaugust:
NAF 36D6 radar beats SAAF Thutlwa radar .

The SA air force doesn't operate that radar.
It is used by the army.

agaugust:
Bwahahaaha

South African defence industry does NOT produce jet fighter rocket pods, Nigeria makes them at NAF weapons industry, we beat yöu on that !!!

Go dië of envy, you import rocket pods for SAAF jets, NAF staff makes our own at home !


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It is a copy or licence produced of a pod already integrated on the Alpha jet.

SAAF jets don't use unguided aerial rockets.

iblawi:
Naija no dey carry last

What the F is this?

agaugust:
Nigerian Airforce reconfigures Trainer aircraft bought from USA

“Convinced that the project would work, the NAF consequently assembled a team of technicians to develop a feasible model for the project. The weapons model worked on ground, and the weapons has since been mounted on the Alpha Jets, and test flown successfully.

“This feat is a major research and development breakthrough for the NAF and the Nation as a huge foreign exchange saver given that the project only cost about N400, 000.00 compared to what would be required to have it done abroad” the statement concluded.

http://www.vanguardngr.com/2016/01/nigerian-airforce-reconfigures-trainer-aircraft-bought-from-us/

Some people should be arrested. Weren't these jets advertised as capable of delivering precision guided ammunition ?

patches689:
1. SuperHind upgrade kit 2. Know your RPG warheads!

Correction: Night hawk upgrade kit.

patches689:
Two of these things are not like the others

What's interesting is that Paramount is offering Denel's A-Darter SRAAM and the Umbani/Al-tariq PGM as parts of the armaments of the upgraded Mirages.

Seems like they changed names of some products. The Super hind and others.

agaugust:
This thread will be better when you are mature enough to leave other peoples comments alone and just post yours. You seem to lack the adult reasoning faculty that will make you understand that this thread is not same as the other one where you just scream all the time....citations please, even when the answer is evident on simple google search a 12 year old boy can do. Seems you have no shame as an adult.

Henry240:
- Prove the Aircraft Electronics in the Gripen are better than on the JF-17

- the JF-17 carries Air-to-Air, Air-to-Ground, Anti-Shipping missiles.

- Thrust in both Aircrafts are thesame.

A. Operates inferior weapons needs to be upgraded to use other weapons. Raising costs.

- Similar to your ipad or computer operating system you won't have certain features or use some applications if you're stack with a previous operating system. With that said to use say 5th generation missiles like the IRIS-T SRAAM you'll need "certain features" to use them. So your country will have to pay millions for this.



- Mostly which are inferior to what is available in the market. Like in terms of air to air weaponry it is limited to Chinse and a few Brazilian AAMs. Nothing impressing besides the PL-12.

- The RD-93 is just problem. One SA company fitted the original one the 33 on a Mirage.

Henry240:
We sure won't be struggling to raise 9 pilots for our fleet after 16 years.


We also won't be paying $65 million dollars a unit for planes which are essentially JF-17s, unlike a certain air force in Southern Africa.

- Avionics.

- Weaponry.

- Propulsion.

Henry240:
That's the thing, in an ambush, they'll all die. The weather alone is enough to even break them.


The best vehicle i've seen is definitely the vehicle proforce is offering for it's Special Combat Vehicle category. My only problem is, there is no provision for a GPMG for the front passenger gunner.


The Gurza 2 from Azerbaijian is also nice, but it does provide enough protection.


Pound for pound, the Gurza 2 satisfies on all parameters and is the best SF vehicle I've ever seen.

They're unlikely to fall into ambushes. As they operate mostly outside the battlefield.

If they do those vehicles carry a heavy punch.

What did the Selous scouts use during Operation Eland?

Henry240:
You're the one making the accusation, the burden of proof is on you.

How do you guys even make it through school?

- Avionics.
- Weaponry.
- Propulsion.

Henry240:
Does this comment make any sense to you?



It's unbelievable how you South-Africans think to be honest.

The reason you're acquiring that turkey is because of the warm relations between Pakistan and Nigeria. Is that what are saying?

Not doctrine, defence policy, operational requirements and costs.

agaugust:
Chinese new WS-13 engine for JF-17 is almost ready. NAF has two choices of engines. JF-17 offers Nigeria technology transfer on how to build a 4th generation jet fighter, J-10 does not offer that. Tech transfer is priceless and a great reward.

Industrial participation would be better as building jets is not for everyone. There's a reason why jet engines designed and produced by a handful countries.

Henry240:
You say the JF-17 is a Turkey, explain to us how you came by this conclusion.

It is a turkey! If you think it is better than other fighters in it's class explain why.

agaugust:
Reason why I hate those open body SF vehicles, if terrorist AK-47 dont kill the SF, heavy rain, sand storm, whirlwind, super hot sunshine will bastardize the men, degrade their equipment, and weaken their bodily stamina. I have those type of uncovered open body special forces vehicles.

Henry240:
With the JF-17 multi-role fighter, it was and has always been a forgone conclusion. The Nigerian Air Force was always going to get JF-17s from PAC/CATIC.



The relationship we have with the Pakistanis, especially in the Air Force is very very strong. 50+ years of a strong relationship with the Pakistani Air Force ensured that we were always going to get them.


The JF-17 as well as the J-10, MIG-29 & SU-30 were the only other options. Two engine jets were off the question, leaving the JF-17 and the J-10.

Capabilities and requirements ignored basically?

Henry240:
That's odd, you say it's a Turkey......... Yet you didn't furnish us with the facts?

What facts?

Henry240:
A human body can only resist bad, punishing weather for so long....... Then he breaks, it's nature.


Staying under the rain for a couple of days don't mean much. Can a body continuously receive punishing weather, no.

Rough and tough men are trained to withstand the elements.

The vehicles have covers.

patches689:
Yeah I saw that.

But I assumed "repaired" was a similar euphemism for the C130's being "overhauled"... ie: "pending further funding"

The C-130s is a different story.

We shouldn't have discussed about that turkey now this thread will be filled with people from that "country", supporting it.