agaugust: Direct your comment to MikeZAR, he is the one making mischief about fitting missiles on the P18N, everybody was discussing the matter peacefully to share knowledge until MikeZAR brought in the manners of the other thread....and you too copued his statement few minutes after. Go backwards and read his provocative posts and yours that copied his words. I could retaliate by hitting back on the Rooivalk sales he is trying to promote here using Congo DRC, but I decided not to do so because I don't think we need many imbéciles here, one is enough.
Diversion?
Uhmmm you can find me at the military discussion thread if you wanna discuss the Rooivalk.
agaugust: Is that the topic or subject of the discussion? The answer is NO, everydody already knows the status of the ship and we are all talking about if there is need to fit with in future. Stop trying to bring wounds from the other thread to this place and use your brain to understand the subject of other people's discussion before you jump in, use your brain even if its not that efficiently functional, just try use it, half bread is better than none my dear friend.
With that established. Do you now wanna talk WI with me?
agaugust: Go watch 10th to 20th seconds time point on the Chinese promo video of P18N and see the oil spill control tanks, position called amidships if you dont know marine tech. Thats where the Type 056 AShM are installed. P18Nis modular and convertible from gun OPV to missile light frigate/corvette. Ask questions when you dont know things, dont be ashamed to ask, I wont laugh at you for asking to be taught what is beyond your level of knowledge, I am your friend.
Last one.
The G5 155mm howitzer.
The howitzer's Performance:
Rate of fire: 3 rounds per minute.
Range:
- VLAP rounds: 51
- Standard rounds: 31kilometres.
- Base bleeds: 41kilometres.
Able to travel up to 16kilometres per hour in level surfaces/roads.
I know it's not Thursday but here's a nice throwback.
Rooivalk: I still believe the successful deployment of the attack helicopter in the DRC has shown to the world a slight peak of this helicopter's effectiveness in combat and other missions.
Henry240: This could potentially help you South-Africans. South-Africa needs air frames like the JF-17 and LCA to compete in missile market.
Already the political clout of the U.S ensures all NATO members buy missiles from the U.S in varying quantities.
Eastern bloc leaning Nations and India would either buy from Russia or co-develop with the Russians. Bhramos et al
The Chinese have, Thailand, Pakistan, Malaysia and some eastern bloc countries.
Your air force would have been a good source to create awareness, but as we can see, the SAAF lacks the funds.
So realistically for your missiles to sell a neutral aircraft like the JF-17 is one of your best bets. 150 + Aircrafts for Pakistan alone, with numbers expected to rise to 250 planes, sales to Nigeria, Sri-Lanka, possibly Egypt, Iran and Azerbaijan.
The USA is losing it's dominance in this market.
The Metoer BVRAAM and the IRIS-T SRAAM are great examples. European air forces are sourcing/acquiring missiles in that continent. MBDA dominated market.
The SAAF is funding the R & D costs of these projects. Maintaining and building skills.
The big ticket items like the G5, G6, Rooivalk etc are the only systems SA companies have been struggling to secure orders.
The Power Of The Rooivalk On Show During A Three Day Demonstration.
Members of various Defence Forces, Defence analysts, the Defence Industry and the media are attending a demonstration of the Denel Rooivalk equipped with the Denel Mokopa missile.......
Analysis on what impact SA weapon systems would have if they were offered as part of the JF-17 weapons package.
In tandem with attractive cost-savings, the Pakistan Air Force (PAF) needs to guarantee the availability of current-day as well as emerging technologies, especially in the areas of air-to-air and air-to-surface munitions.
agaugust: Kinda men to find and eliminate the top leadership of El Shabbab.
Notice important things the SF leader explained.
1. Maximum age for these SF men is 37 years of age, old men not allowed, get old and get out pf service, your experience does not matter, your body organs and blood is too old to do SF ops.
2. War all over the world has now changed, moved from conventional to irregular/assymetric, and moved again to terrorism/criminality, this is what I have been saying, there is a need for anti-terorism SF training for CT-COIN SF men, its a different skill and experience from traditional army SF who don't have knowledge of Islamic terrorism.
When you tell people truths on this forum, they keep arguing with you from a blind point of view.
Fighting M23 rebels is totally different from fighting El Shabbab Islamic terrorists, the enemy philosilophy and modus operandi is very different, so the tactics must be different, and training must be different.
NA has about 5,000 army SF, but is building another and a brand new anti-terrorism SF.
Way to go for AU and UN. Meanwhile, check out Tunisian SF guy's pouches loaded like an armoury as their country becomes the new target of African terrorism...
Patchesagain: yeah of course! Dont forget the Raptor III as well!
Gripen deploying from beyond the radar horizon with small projectiles will be a b1tch to detect
What I want to know is
1. Take Uhmkonto rocket motor and missile casing 2. Attach Mokopa seeker and warhead 3. Intergrate into Gripen 4. ?? 5. Profit
The Raptor III is in a different class.
1. Small warhead to be effective. 2. Range. 3. Seeker. 4. intergration.
Years back Denel mentioned the development a weapon system called the SGM(Small guided missile) but like most systems development might currently be halted. A fighter with racks would be able to carry more than 10 of those missiles.
But I doubt if the weapon system was indeed a missile my guess is that it was smaller PGM in the class of the Israeli Spice 250.
In terms of air-to-ground weapon I'd support the development of the system than a anti-ship missile or you wanna see a "nationalised air-launched Exocet missile"?
agaugust: africaken, one single supply route of weapons is enough to keep El Shabbab alive and fighting continuously for years. Also, there may be leakages in those areas that they no longer control along the coast. AMISOM needs to TOTALLY cut off the supply lines of El Shabbab or else you keep fighting until they frustrate you like Talban frustrated NATO in Afghanistan where the supply lines was Pakistani borders feeding Taliban with endless supply of weapons and ordnance.
Some reports say AMISOM has about 22,000 troops in Somalia and has been fighting there for about 10 years. Doing the same old thing won't give you a new result. That list of advise I wrote looks simple, but it is the result of many years of studying Islamic terrorism by people who have military knowledge including veteran NATO soldiers of Iraq and Afghan wars.
Ignore those presidents and politicians meetings and talks, we need action from military men, AMISOM should focus on a couple of selected battle tested Algerian and Nigerian military Colonels or generals who have personally fought and conquered Islamic terrorists and PMC of African or Israeli origin like STTEP and NIRTAL, the AMISOM high command tacticians should be talking to Colonel Eben Barlow as a contractor whom Uganda is familiar, he did a big job in Uganda agaisnt LRA 'Islamic' insurgency.
AMISOM can consider my advise or keep fighting El Shabbab for another 10 years unless a miracle happens. I rest my case, bros. One last advise, Lt.Gen Rono has done a good job and ended his term now, so appoint a new 2016 AMISOM commander in chief, bring in an offensive/attack oriented/minded Algerian army General, a battle tested and success proven veteran of the 11 year war on GIA terrorists.
agaugust: denisfhida, africaken, gottfried and any other commentor here that has contact with military leaders of AU, ANISOM, please pass this message to them in a humble and patriotic Pan-African spirit.
➡ ANISOM will find it hard to defeat El-Shabbab unless it can cut off the insurgents supply chain of weapons and ammunitions, fuel, food and medicines. They will keep on rearming and recruiting to replace attrition loses. UN used to logistics cut off tactics to defeat M23 in Congo DRC, by the time FIB troops arrived to fight, M23 was already dried up of supplies and 70% dead.
El-Shabab has too much access to the ocean on the east and that is the only possible source of their supplies, Ethiopia and Eritrea already land locked them from the west. ANISOM will need the multinational anti-piracy force in the gulf of Aden to use hundreds of IPVs to cut of sea supply routes that replenish El-Shabbab with materials for war.
Alternative is land and air based shoreline complete blockade of the entire Somali coastline.
➡ ANISOM needs at least a 5,000 man special forces brigade trained for anti Islamic-terrorism by expert trainers with right and modern training doctrine and training facilities. Backed up with modern light infantry weapons including light vehicle mobile long range spy/observation hardware and long range man portable infantry night vision equipment. Add high calibre light infantry firepower weapons. The brigade can deploy as half battalion sizes in 15 locations all over Somalia, very mobile strike and move on force, 'CONVENTIONAL ARMY GUERRILLAS'.
➡ ANISOM needs face to face experience sharing with Algeria and Nigeria on fighting Islamic terrorism on land and from the air. Sri Lanka can advice on how to deal with the sea borne supply routes.
➡ ANISOM needs the art of battle field craft, base or FOB defence tactics, they must go back to the basics on that and stop surprise attacks on bases especially night attacks on FOBs that are far from reinforcements.
➡ ANISOM must step up firepower on its tactical or light combat vehicles, main armament should be 14.5mm x 1 and 23mm x 1 single barrel guns of Soviet era available so cheap in Russia and other ex-Soviet states. Add 40mm automatic grenade launchers. Then go get the new M3 Carl Gustav 1.7 km range 'anti-terrorist' man portable recoilless LAW that is cheap and affordable in large numbers, every 80 man big size platoon should have one launcher.
➡ ANISOM needs two dozens of light Scout armed helicopters like the cheap Gazelle specially dedicsted for the SF brigade of 5,000 men and maybe another two dozens for regular infantry too.
➡ ANISOM should ask Nigeria and Algeria to deploy permanently to ANISOM, a battle tested colonel or general rank each, who have spent at least 5 years in their own countries' wars on Islamic terrorism, as special advisers and observers under ANISOM commander in chief. Africans need to pull all resources and skills together to win this war.
➡ ANISOM should use any 'idle' troops trainers to train more and more Somalian army infantry. Then the ANISOM's 5,000 newly trained anti-terrorism special forces brigade should include 1,000 of the best current Somalian infantry men, loyal, tested, trusted, not moles sympathetic to El Shabbab.
20,000 troops fighting El-Shabbab for so many years is too long a war and a drain on AU resources. We gotta win this war 2016-2017, or at least degrade El-Shabbab to current Boko Haram level of technical military 'fall back position'.
My little contribution to ANISOM efforts and service.
africaken: during the vietnam war an american soldier could carry 600 bullets and thats a war where soldiers needed to walk for hundreds of kilometer in thick jungle.by the way do you know what the fvck an empty mag pouch is and its use ?
denisfidha: We have seen reactions before, reaction would have wind down when the mastermind was killed in an airstrike, So far KDF has vacated from 4 camps in Somalia and relocated somewhere else in what looks like a new strategy, and additional battalions are being sent, in fact, it was just yesterday that CDF said something like, "its payback time"..... if you wanna call it reaction, then this will be one long reaction, cause its just getting started
Foreign Affairs › Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by MikeCZAR: 9:39pm On Feb 07, 2016
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