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Johel:
Lol...fukk the church!, Christians to the lions ...I know God the Almighty,the creator...Religion is man made, anything man made is irrelevant to God's entire plan...I don't know Christianity, I know truth.

Never will I be in the gathering of hypocrites, I rather go behind closed door and relate with the Almighty and for sure he acknowledges that even more

Rexxie234:
I pray God forgives you

jaephoenix:
1. Good. So lets assume you're a car. How do you assume humans exist, when you don't have the faculties to extract that info?
2. The difference between science and in this case medical science and spirituality, is reproducibility of evidence. If I manage a sleep paralysis case with 20mg of nocte diazepam, and tell some folks, they can't doubt it. Why? The evidence is reproducible anywhere and anytime. In fact, papers and scientific evidence of it working, how it works and the possible side effects are already documented. So they won't be arguing not just me, but the whole scientific world. It basically works.
The problem with spirituality is this same reproducibility. Crookes (or indeed) some other person cannot do his demonstration.
3. Arent you theists tired of these boring lines? I have hearing it for ages, even go out of my way to experience the demons, but its all bullshit. Some even suggest I go to hinterlands and slap some obscure old men. Really? The only way I can elicit some form of supernatural experience is to physically assault old men. Imagine you hear someone walks up to your grandpa and slaps the shit outta him, would you take it kindly? Of course I tell them I cannot do that. Not only would I not see any demonic or supernatural powers, but the youth there would beat the be-jesus outta me. What happens to simply sending the 'jazz' to me from wherever hinterland? Isnt that what you guys believe in? So bro, if you don't have any specific source of demons, then kindly keep quiet.
4. I didn't even complete the story. People can advertently or inadvertently concoct stories. I can tell you any stories and tell you its true. All I have to append to it is "God showed me" and every theist gobbles it up. The story may be as a result of use of psychedelic drugs which is easily available. To him, it may be real and he doesn't know he's audiovisual hallucinations.

That's why science relies on verifiable and reproducible evidence, not anecdotal evidence, as you did.

jaephoenix:
1. Lol. This is a perfect typical theist reply.
Me: Can you show me evidence of god?
Theist: Show me god doesn't exist!

Me: Show me what the bible can do
Theist: Go out there and find it

Dude, if I knew, would I be asking you?!

2. Read this up. Your article link wasn't working, so I looked out for the 'demonstration' myself. I pulled up this link
https://psi-encyclopedia.spr.ac.uk/articles/william-crookes
Crookes could not demonstrate beyond reasonable doubt that he was talking with ghosts. And his spiritualist side did not influence his scientific invention, unlike what your buddy was saying.

3. You mean I should hang around demons? Pray where are those demons so I can look out for them, sire

jaephoenix:
1. Apart from purportedly scaring demons, what else does the bible do?
2. Waiting…
3. I keep on hearing this for 2 decades yet I aint seen nothing

Gopkk:
This One Weak Me ooo

MaxInDHouse:
so whether they're corrupt from our viewpoint or not God's word says:

"pay Caesar's things to Caesar" Matthew 22:21 Compare to Romans 13:1-4

Jesus Christ too is a pagan, satanic and demonic idol worship as only Greek/Roman gods do mate with women. The True GOD of the Old Testament did not mate with Mary.

Very Strange Experience With My Father. Should I Be Worried?

Hello guys.. the background behind this story is lenghty so to spare you the trouble ill jump straight to the point. My father though he has his flaws is a very religious and i dare say principled man in some aspects.n He never misses church service. Went to bible school. At one point he was even a house fellowship leader. He prays and fast often.

So on this day i was standing in the doorway to my dads room. He wanted to send me on an erand ''i think'', so he opened his wardrope to get to get the money. Immediately he opened his wardrop i saw a BAT...yes BAT hanging upside down right there in his wardrope. In shock i jumped and shouted

''daddy see bat see bat !!!''.

Guess what he did. He simply smiled and gently closed his wardrope. I have never been this confused. I saw a bat hanging upside down in his wardrop and all he did was smile and gently closed the door. I don't know what to make of it. I have already concluded, there is no way on earth this is from God. Up until this time i have never seen a bat up close in real time. The closest ive been was watch them on television. Contemplate how scared and confused i am now. I picked up an excuse and ran out of the house to go stay with my relative..its been a week since i left and im still too scared to go back.

What do you folks make of this? How can a man who prays and fast and attends bible school have a BAT in his wardrope. WTF !!

Theres a part two and this one is about my mother.

MikeofAfrica:
The problem with you is that you don't know when and how to withdraw the false claims that you and your group has been unable to prove.

Since you said that the Child in Isaiah 9:6 is not Jesus Christ, I decided to give you the chance to confide in us the true identity of the Child.

Instead of hitting the nail by the head by providing the true identity of that Child, you are still trying to prove that the Child is not Jesus Christ. This shows that you are not even sure of what you are claiming.

Name such as " God and Lord" are titles given to the Creator of Heaven and Earth in the Bible. However His real name is Yahweh in Hebrew and Jehovah in English.

Similarly, Name such as " Mighty God, Everlasting Father and Prince of Peace" are titles given to the only begotten Son of God in the Bible. His real name is Jesus Christ and Immanuel ( God with us).

The identity of the child was first revealed in Isaiah 7:14. His real name is Immanuel. The Child was confirmed as Jesus Christ in Matthew 1: 20-23.

Hence stop confusing yourself and accept the truth .

MikeofAfrica:
Isaiah 9:6 says - " For unto us a Child is born and into us a Son is given; and the government shall be upon His shoulder. And His name shall will be called Wonderful, Counsellor, Mighty God, Everlasting Father , Prince of Peace"

Since you described me as a kindergarten that does not know anything, please can you confide in me the identity of this Child in Isaiah 9:6.

MikeofAfrica:
Since you believe in the true God of the OT,
When you succed in telling me the identity of the child in Isaiah 9:6 whose divine names are - " Almighty God, Everlasting Father and Prince of Peace" , we will continue our discussion.

MikeofAfrica:
A man once went to a Court and accuse his neighbour of being the father of his only child because the child resembles the neighbour.
The judge asked the man' s wife if the allegation is true and the woman said "No". Hence the judge summoned the neighbour and a doctor was hired to carry out a DNA test on the child and the neighbour.
At the end, the test was negative hence the man has to tender an apology to his neighbour for the false allegation.

Similarly, you accused the Romans of being the author ( father) of the NT. You also accused the Romans of inventing Jesus. Hence just like the judge, I decided to carry out a Word- DNA test on the NT to find out if the blood of the Romans( their traditions and doctrines) flows in the words written in the NT.

I found out two interesting passages while carrying out the Word -DNA test.

1. Matthew 1: 25 told us that Joseph began sleeping with Mary after she gave birth to Jesus Christ.
Hence while the Romans believe that Mary remained a Virgin till death, the NT contradicted them.
This clearly shows that the Romans did not write the NT because the teachings of the NT contradicted their teaching and doctrine.

2. Luke 11: 27-28, Jesus countered a woman who paid tributes to His mother in His presence.
Hence while the Romans believes in the veneration of the Blessed Virgin Mary, the Jesus of the NT is against it.
This clearly shows that the Jesus of the NT was not invented by the Romans because He is against the veneration of Mary which is the signature of the Romans religion.

Hence after carrying out the Word-DNA test on the NT, it came out negative base on the above two scriptures. This means the blood of the Romans and the Words of the NT does not match, hence the Romans are not the author of the NT.

DNA test ( whether blood DNA or word DNA) is more reliable than documentary, history and folktale stories when determining the father of a child or the author of a book.

Hence if you cannot counter Matthew 1:25 and Luke 11: 27-28, then you have nothing relevant to say.

Also remember that you are yet to tell me the identity of the child with divine names of " Everlasting Father, Almighty God and Prince of Peace" in Isaiah 9 vs 6.

MikeofAfrica:
Let me explain to you how intellectuals present their case.

When you get to the Court of Law in any Country to argue a case, you are expected to base your argument on that Country's Constitution. Once you can convince the jourist that your actions are in accordances with the nation's constitution, you will win the case.

Regarding Spiritual and Religious issue, the two Constitution accepted Worldwide are the Holy Bible and the Holy Quran.

Now you told me that the Second section of the Holy Bible is invalid while the first section is valid. Hence I was expecting you to use passages from the first section, OT, to back up your claim.

If it is true that the Romans wrote the NT and invented Jesus then the Prophets of the OT must have prophesied about it and warn us about what the Romans will do to the Holy Scripture.

I have quoted more than five scriptures from the OT to prove that Jesus Christ exist and was not invented by the Romans. Instead of you to counter me by quoting scriptures from the OT which you believed in, you started sending me videos and telling me Roman folktales.

I even showed you where it is written in the NT that Joseph had sex with Mary after the birth of Jesus hence since the Romans believe that Mary was a Virgin till death, it means the Romans are not the author of the NT.

This are legal evidence that I

MikeofAfrica:
It was great reading more of your Roman folktales. 300 years after the death of Jesus Christ, a woman, Helena, told Judas Iscariot to undig the cross of Jesus Christ from His grave and the cross made with ordinary wood was still intact!
Even a Primary One student will not believe such folktale yet you want to use it convince me that the Romans invented Jesus.

You claimed that the Romans wrote the NT, yet the same NT told us in Matthew 1:25 that Joseph started sleeping with Mary after the birth of Jesus.

How can the Romans who claim that Mary was a Virgin through out her lifetime now write in the Bible that the same Mary started having sex with Joseph after giving birth to Jesus.

Matthew 1:24 -25 says - " When Joseph woke from sleep, he did as the Angel commanded him. He took his wife but did not make love to her UNTIL after she borne a Son and he called his name Jesus".

That passage contradicts the doctrines and traditions of the Romans. Hence it is enough to convince any sensible person that the Romans did not write the NE . This also means that they did not invent Jesus.

I did not name Jesus the Almighty God, Everlasting father and Prince of Peace.

Isaiah 9:6 told us about a child with these divine names. I asked you who this child was but you had no answer. Your brother, sonmvayina, first guessed that the child is Isaiah's son . When I priced him wrong, he now said the child is King Hezekiah.

Imagine King Hezekiah been referred to as the Almighty God, Everlasting Father and Prince of Peace! Abomination! Is that what your Rabbi has been teaching your sect?

That Child is our Lord and Savior , Jesus Christ. Your beloved OT predicted his birth in Isaiah 7:14 and Isaiah 9:6-7. The same OT predicted his death in Isaiah 53.

I back my arguments with Bible passages from both OT and NT. I don't back my arguments with folktale stories of how Helena and Judas were digging the grave of Jesus after 300 years.

Those folktales are for kids and not for intellectuals like me.

MikeofAfrica:
The word " Hail" means Salute or Greetings. These are terminologies that Angels use to approach people whom God has sent them to. If the person is a soldier, the Angel will use words like " Mighty man of Valour" ( Judges 6:12).

Long before Mary was born, Prophetess Deborah prophesied that Jael shall be the Most Blessed of all Women on Earth ( Judges 5:24). In other words, " Most Blessed among Women " is not exclusive to Mary. Many women who impressed God during their time on Earth were also refered to as most blessed among women.

Hence anyone using Luke 1:28 as a basis for the veneration of Mary is clutching at straws.

The Roman Catholic Church believes that Mary remained a Virgin till death. Hence they refers to her as the Blessed Virgin Mary. However the Bible confided in us that Joseph did not have sex with Mary UNTIL she gave birth to Jesus Christ ( Matthew 1: 25). This means that Joseph began sleeping with Mary after the birth of Jesus.

In other words, the New Testament debunked the teachings and doctrines of the Catholic Church. Yet you want me to believe that the same Catholic Church wrote the New testament. Is that not insane!

I believe in the true God of the Old Testament. That is the reason I highlighted where in the Old testament, Isaiah prophesied about the birth of a child that will be the Almighty God, Everlasting father, Prince of Peace.

You claimed this Child is not Jesus Christ but failed to confide in me the true identity of the child. Once we can agree on the identity of this child, the issue if whether Jesus exist or not will be resolve.

The videos that you posted are nothing when compared with the classified informations that I have about the origin of Christianity in the Ancient Roman Empire.

Nobody invented Jesus. The Romans only invented the Blessed Virgin Mary as a brand to market their goddess, Madonna, to the World. Madonna is the female goddess known as the Queen of Heaven in the Bible( Jeremiah 44:15-30). They then carried the beautiful images of Madonna into the Catholic Church and deceived the church members that she is Mary, the mother of Jesus Christ.

Hence the Romans used a genuine product( Jesus Christ) to market a fake product (Madonna) to the World. That is the strategy fraudsters are still using till today.

I sympathize with people like you who got confused with the machinations of the Romans hence believing they also invented Jesus Christ.