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TheKingIsHere:
Just give a simple yes or no.

Minemrys:
Dude, when it comes to WB I am inclined to believe whatever is said about them. That was how it started with other DC films...they ended up being true. There's no smoke without fire. WB created the image whereby whatever is said now about their production is believed.

It said WB not Rob Pattinson.

TheKingIsHere:
So, do you believe and accept the news (from cosmic book) that Pattinson slept and impregnated Zoe on the Batmobile while filming the batman? Yes or No?

Bros, read my comment you just bolded. Your answer is there.

abduleez1:
You surely do know, MCU has a very rapid development to production stage. I can bet you that multiple Spiderman was just added on the fly and never from the onset. You see the speed at which Ms Marvel, Moon Night and She-Hulk was announced and the ongoing production.

On Loki, I'm still in episode one tho, but I really don't see it any different from what we've seen in previous DC shows or animation. They are just marketing this multiverse ish in Dr Strange and NWH as if they'd been planning it for ages and the story starts from WandaVision and Loki. I don't buy that shít. The Feige I know would have been shouting and gallivanting about multiverse in press conferences and interviews about the big new multiverse.
You know how Feige is a smart scammer and marketer. Similar scam he pulled for Captain Marvel. Na these notion dey make people say marvel have it ALL planned out. Na dis Kain talk dey vex me. Peeps will see upcoming Black Widow now and see some connections seeded and how it ties to future movies and will start claiming "THey haD ThIs PlaNnEd frOM ThE StarT".
As I previously said, it's the execution that matters.

No need to argue much sha. Na just to dey observe.

My point exactly. How many times have WB announced films without fast tracking them? Hence you can't say DC did it first when they get beaten each time to the finish line.
Look how they fast track things and wb couldn't even get Justice league dark they have been announcing since 2014 off the ground. If na Disney, JLD would have had 2 sequels now with a billion dollar box office.

abduleez1:
I really don't see it that way. Credibility or not, people who will watch CW verse would still watch no matter who shíts on it. Case in point ~ our dedicated friend Nani667.

The bigger picture I see is, they're trying to bring the Arrowverse fans along to join the bigger DCEU fandom. Believe it or not, Arrowverse has its cult following and has a sizable fanbase. In DC after the Snyder fans section, the next biggest sub-section I can think of is CW.
That way people who like CW and don't like DCEU "Dark, gloomy" style will feel more involved in the projects.
Believe it or not Arrowverse shows are popular than some DCEU films.

That's a wrong move considering the fandom isn't that big compared to general movie audience. A wrong move.

TheKingIsHere:
Seriously bro, why do you like spreading false news?

This false news of WB not being happy with the batman and the reshoot issh was propagated by "we got this covered" some weeks back.

The same WGTC also spread false news that Pattinson hates Matt and is difficult to work with. Another fake news was that Pattinson impregnated Zoe during filming (spread by cosmic book).

You claim to be a writer yet you have failed to do proper research and due diligence on articles you come across.

I know you are seriously pained by some of WB actions but it doesn't mean that you have to take delight in spreading false news.

Dude, when it comes to WB I am inclined to believe whatever is said about them. That was how it started with other DC films...they ended up being true. There's no smoke without fire. WB created the image whereby whatever is said now about their production is believed.

pu7pl3:
Maybe that's why they were just recycling Batman and Superman...and Jonah Hex one time

They never knew what to do with what they had. Imagine how WB could have ruled box office in the 90s and 2000s... when they had all their characters. Disney wouldn't have been super big like now.

pu7pl3:
I've not come across any of this tbh

Na see I dey see am with one eye dey throwaway. I no even want read am. Comic book dot com, fandom wire been report am. I just dey read the headline dey skip.

TheKingIsHere:
Exactly

Talk talk talk. It's all we hear of from WB. While they were talking, Disney were fast tracking theirs. No be who first talk am na who first do am.

abduleez1:
Baba just dey over reason things.

Guy you no go understand. Being a DC fan for ages, knowing the rich contents it has, the potentials and watching some studio misuse it is too much. As in, I have waited for a DC universe for ages, with great continuity, you need to understand my annoyance.
If you want to do something, do it right or don't do it at all

pu7pl3:
And about the ballsy stuff, I don't just get it... WB has always been the studio ith the most balls to try things differently, I don't just understand what's going on with the DC department

Well, WB has never seen potential in DC before Disney came in. They never did.

pu7pl3:
yea, it maybe low but there are many people that like it and would pop for Grant Gustin on the big screen

Then have him be from a different universe not the CW. That way even if the series ends WB can bring in Gustin. Then again that's just people. Not everyone knows Gustin. Just a few.

pu7pl3:
what's the problem with the batman movie?

All sorts of controversy, WB aren't happy with it, reshoots etc. The usual with every dceu film wb has released.

abduleez1:
Bros Flash multiverse story is way before Doctor Strange or anything Marvel has thought up. Marvel only followed suit after they saw the massive online chatter that followed DC's move.

Multiverse was even talked up as far back as DC Fandome in 2020.
Bros no be everything DC they copy. Even tho the multiverse plan is for ulterior motives, it's definitely original and came first. MCU is the copycat here. Cos it's after a month that we heard MCU's plans.

Dude, DC may have invented these stuffs, superhero genre etc before marvel but in the movie world, MCU beat them to it. Don't argue too far. The fact Spiderman is coming out this year is prove enough. And come to think of it, the build up is happening in Loki already. In movie verse WB are playing catch up.

pu7pl3:
Whatever story they choose to run should be given enough time, especially if it's Flashpoint...that's my own

I don't want another Justice League scenario

That's the problem, they don't have the balls to give it enough time. Unlike marvel they don't have credibility in the eyes of audience. I even hear there's problem with the Batman movie. They will fidget and ruin everything. I don't even have faith in the director cause I see a stand in.

TheKingIsHere:
Stop spreading false news as it's not a catch up thingy per se.

The DCEU was the first to come up with the multiverse concept using the flash movie and the main reason why they wanted to do it was to erase Snyder's work and restart afresh. Like a reset button.

It's catch up. Flash never was meant to go the multiverse angle. It was basically time travel. But multiverse of Madness and Spidey cartoon came up, and since Keaton is still alive, then multiverse.

TheKingIsHere:
What's the difference between what the world haven't watched in 3 decades and what the world haven't watched in 2 decades? You thing Tobey's spidey was done yesterday? A lot of young fans are mcu fans and not even marvel fans. They know Tom's spidey and not tobey's.


CW flash did all these but since it's CW you don't care.



There is no much need to do another development on Ezra's barry since we have had the flash tv series for over 6 years based on the same character. Spiderman doesn't have a tv show, so it is important. Flash, on the other hand is a 50-50 thing because there is nothing new you want to know about Barry Allen. That's why Ezra's flash was brought in to the flash show. (i am trying to see it from their own angle).

However, I get your point but since they want to use the flash as a reset button, even 3 hours will not be enough to give us a character development on the flash and the multiverse issh there are doing in this movie.

The concept is different in the films. Besides not everyone watch the CW shitty shows. You really can't compare the MCU build up with this. Marvel are by far ahead and have a stable continuity. There's a massive fanbase that follow the Maguire Garfield films. And, nothing is confirmed yet. They may not be in it. And even if they are in it, we know Holland Spiderman. He is developed. Flash isn't. Even the CW had to wait till season 2 to introduce multiverse. I see an epic fail. They have to treat the Nora murder angle, back story and God, I am so sorry for myself who hoped for something out of the dceu

pu7pl3:
they maybe want to test run how to merge series with movies due to the upcoming DC shows on HBO max

Great idea. But arrowverse? Abeg that's way low.

pu7pl3:
If they want to make a Flashpoint movie please and please let it be atleast 3hrs so that the story can be fleshed out and understood...many people haven't read the comics or seen the animations...

Please WB 3hrs...don't cut anything... please I'm begging

I don't even think it's flashpoint they are doing. Flashpoint would have been better than this multiverse thing. It's like trying to catch up to marvel again. Flashpoint and time travel would set up a better reboot than merging worlds together or that nonsense. I don't just get the interest in Keaton and bringing into the films the arrowverse world.

TheKingIsHere:
How many people are used of Tobey maguire's spidey? Or Andrew garfield spidey? Or Netflix Dare devil? Do you think they will give enough time (3 hours +) for others to get used to them in Dr strange2 or Spiderman nwh? We know the answer already.

Also, what does ww84 have to do with this?

You don't get the point. You want to show us a world we haven't seen in 3 decades without a lengthy introduction to it when you haven't developed the existing one? Dr. Strange is built up in layers, the multiverse is built up by marvel in layers. Loki is building it up, Wanda vision already opened the possibility to it. And Disney aren't bringing in Maguire Garfield in the first Spiderman film. We already know about Tom whatever his name is Peter Parker. We don't really know who Ezra Miller's flash or Barry Allen is. You haven't developed the main character and you want to develop 4 more in a runtime of 2 hours while creating space for action and fx. I don't expect anything from this movie. It's one dumpster fire I am seeing. I hope I am wrong.

TheKingIsHere:
I get your point but this movie doesn't need to be 3 hours. They're introducing characters that we all know about already, so no real need to drag and tell story about how each character came about.

Also, Dr Strange and multiverse of madness ain't 3 hours, so there's no way that wb will want this to be 3 hours, since both are basically have similar storyline.

Every studio is thinking about making a pop corn flick movie that fans can quickly breeze in and out and also watch it multiple times, thereby increasing their profit margin. Especially as cinemas are recovering from the pandemic.

It's my opinion sha. But don't put your hopes that you'll get this movie to be 3 hours. Just saying

Using doctor strange as example is wrong cause there has been few build ups to it. And don't forget, we already know who Steven strange is and we are connected to the MCU already. We aren't connected to the dceu universe cause we haven't had a great continuity or enough development. Characters that have been developed are just wonder woman and Aquaman. Superman and Batman haven't been that developed, the dceu hasn't been developed compared to the MCU so that comparison is wrong. Having a lot happening in the flash first film without a lengthy runtime would be a bad idea. I see this film seriously underperforming and not living to expectations.

TheKingIsHere:
I get your point but this movie doesn't need to be 3 hours. They're introducing characters that we all know about already, so no real need to drag and tell story about how each character came about.

Also, Dr Strange and multiverse of madness ain't 3 hours, so there's no way that wb will want this to be 3 hours, since both are basically have similar storyline.

Every studio is thinking about making a pop corn flick movie that fans can quickly breeze in and out and also watch it multiple times, thereby increasing their profit margin. Especially as cinemas are recovering from the pandemic.

It's my opinion sha. But don't put your hopes that you'll get this movie to be 3 hours. Just saying

That's the problem, most of these characters being introduced, we have no idea of. We need to get used to Keaton Batman, Supergirl and the multiverse concept according to the dceu version. You can't do that and still have a great action flick. Wonder woman 84 complaints anyone?

R. I. P to Richard Donner, the man who brought us the first Superman film.
He too like Snyder and Ayer, WB frustrated in his time as director.

Nickshrapnel:
All these leaks are funny but is sounds like something WB can do.

If that's what Warner Bros are going with, hahaha, sorry...
It's basically a CW episode. I have seen a replica of this story in the flash season 2 and legends of tomorrow season 1. This has to be fake cause it's too cheap.
We didn't wait 4 years with all the delays to end with something so cheap. A flash origin with the reverse flash would have been better, to introduce the concept of time travel first before dwelling on multiverse.

TheKingIsHere:
3hours for flash is too much. 2 hours 20mins is okay

Considering the kind of story they want to tell, 3 hours would be the right amount. We need to get used to who Barry is, the time travel build up, setting up the multiverse, differentiating his universe from others, introducing other characters and don't forget WB want the CW characters in also.

Tarvel:
Am I the only one that doesn't want the SnyderVerse restored??

No you are not. But we want a linear continuity not this stamping of films to see what sticks. Right now we don't even know what's up with the dceu.

TonySpike:
I am quite indifferent about these new projects coming from DC. That Flash movie seems like WB is overtly trying to see what sticks on the wall.

My point exactly. Aside Aquaman, black Adam and the Batman, I am just not hyped for anything DC again.
Am even more into Drama now. WB killed the interest I had for DC films. On the superhero side, I am hyped for Spiderman 3 and venom

Suicide squad, I could care less for that movie.
News and rumors I am hearing of The Flash, it seems WB really want this movie to suck. Pushing various arrowverse and cw cameos in Flash's first film when we aren't used to Ezra Miller's flash or even his universe. Great! I hope they know what they are doing, cause I see another BvS theatrical cut here. And I doubt they have the balls to make it 3 hours.

johnyace:
Just want to say that toxic fans exist in all fan base, doesn't mean that the fan base is toxic, or are you trying to say that marvel fans are toxic too, because some of them threatened the life of an actor just for playing captain America in a way that they don't like.

You all always trying make Snyder fans look bad, do you know that after his daughter's death some fans were mocking him cause some dark stuff has started happening to him, if that isn't toxic tell me what is.

The way these guys are hard on the Snyder name on this thread is sickening. And I can't stand the duplicity of them claiming to be his supporter when virtually I haven't seen them write something good about him, but evidently would post articles supporting a greedy movie studio. You don't have to like anyone but don't pretend to. I don't fan Snyder and I certainly don't have to hate him or ascribe every lunacy done by some individual with his name. I know what that feels like.

abduleez1:
I know what I saw on the net. If you no see wetin I see online, no problem. I definitely saw some Cultists claiming wb used Keaton to bait fans and calm the anger. In fact, I saw this nonsense few days ago on FB. That was before they was shut up with Keaton's pics on set.
I see wetin some guys they talk for DC fan pages.

The same way people dey cry cos studio say e no go one direction na same energy I dey give back. The way some Snyder fans carry film matter for head, any other movie is TRASH and all that.
If no be toxicity and stupidity wetin concern Snyder verse with GvK wey Snyder Cultists go dey review bomb. Their toxic behaviour is the reason other fans in the fandom are rising up against them. I don't have anything against the man, The bone I have to pick is with his rabid fans. I see them on a daily online. So Baba no be everybody get patience dey tolerate their nonsense.

Bros na simple vice versa "The Hate you Give".
No dey pretend as if Snyder fans weren't the ones who started this bullshít.

Don't believe everything you read on the internet. Keaton's representatives released information to the media regarding Keaton's worries, and they released another to confirm he was moving with the project. Anyone can write stuff online. Don't be too quick to demonize the whole fandom for what one person dish out using multiple monikers. Just as you are a Snyder fan and I am not, someone like you can write something in the pretext of supporting Snyder when the actual intent is the opposite.

abduleez1:
Why would I be surprised about Batfleck showing??
Wasn't he confirmed to star in the movie.

It was said 3 Batmen.
Na Snyder cry baby fans go dey over reason am as them dey cry Batfleck never show on set. They first shouted and made false claims Keaton was out. The got Shat up, now it's "no Batfleck".
I no get time dey reason nonsense.

Get your facts straight. The news about Keaton passing it on had to do with the covid 19 pandemic concern which his agent attested it being a worry for Keaton. It wasn't a rumour by any fandom. Guy make una forget Snyder matter abeg.
People asking for Affleck has to do with it being confirmed he is part of the cast. Considering he was seen back then in the suicide squad set back in 2015, realistically people will wonder why they haven't seen him. It happens in all films. People wondered why Mark Hamill wasn't seen on set of force awakens. You just carry this guy matter for head.

TonySpike:
I think it's more realistic when superheroes, who are leaders by the way, are portrayed as villains. Superman has every tendency to go bad, just like homelander. All the writers need to do is to find the right motivation.

You don't get my point. The writers are just doing this cause they are lost on how to write Superman and the only way to make him interesting is by making him evil. It's just stupid.

abduleez1:
Lol

Honestly I hate the current trend of making Superman go rogue and evil. It's what happens when you create an overtly righteous and perfect character with no flaw. Zack Snyder had a good idea making supes a flawed character. Atleast him succumbing to the anti life is realistic considering he was never written initially as a perfect person.