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The only way to solve the Taliban debacle is for majority of Afghans to vote to be a US member state.
Hawaii joined the US in 1959.

But we know can never happen.

Most Afghans and even Americans will oppose it

slawormiir:
Damnnn niggarrrr
What is wrong with afghans or rather what is wrong with people of Afghanistan

Why the rush to leave the country

Why the panic
Why are people running helter-skelter

Not like Taliban are shooting and killing people

Taliban quest was to take over kabul. ....
It was done peacefully.....

If people are scared of the type of government or rules the taliban will impose on them...then they should wait until the enactment of such rules by the taliban

Wait until it's too late you mean?

People that's lived with and know the Taliban are running and you living in Nigeria is asking why.

Don't bother.
You're already a failure

MightyEmperor:
they have been killing US soldiers right from the beginning of the occupation, the US even bribed the Taliban not to attack their embassy because the shame would be unbearable.

13 thousand US and allied forces soldiers have been killed in the last 20 years.

There is no record for the number of death on the part of the Taliban. But the number of civilians and Talibans killed are estimated to be 51,000

dangermouse:
I am not ibo in the first place. The West fought Babangida/Abacha. There mandate was stolen and they wanted it restored albiet later in the form of Obasanjo presidency which they never supported where it the ibos who still fought like they did, your likes will still say they don't deserve the presidency. What exactly are you people afraid of in an Ibo presidency?

Why did you want to harvest where you didn't sow?

That's the support of China and Russia

dangermouse:
Who amongst the ethnic groups that has ruled so far earned your so called right before being voted? None. So your position holds no water.

The West has always earn the spot.

Only the West fought the military into a stand still.
Even when they ( the military) were leaving they had to hand over to a westerner..
And during the election everyone knows the West deserved the spot.

You people are making enemies of all the regions and still want to be president.

dangermouse:
Can you beat a child and expect the child not to cry? Hell no. Ibos should be given a chance to rule the country already to greater heights!

Who beat the Igbos?

Igbos should be given Presidency just like that. Has it happened before.

Igbos had earned the right to be given presidency in PDP but even PDP isn't giving them. What does that tell you?

Osinbajo

dangermouse:
I sincerely believe the ibos be given a chance to turn this country around for good. It's high time. I mean the time is now!

Their action has betrayed them.

Now, other regions can't trust them. Especially the North

HardMirror:
this ones are just opportunists, they want to use the opportunity to leave the country just like many nigerians used the anti gay law to run from nigeria even though they are not gay.

Show me the ones jubilating to be in the country now

KushLyon:
Yeah, that's exactly all the citizens of Afghanistan, all 40 million of them are unhappy with the Talibans and are in that plane right now leaving their country for US

Just under 10% of the citizens are afraid of the talibans rule while the other 90% are ok with it, but no o, Nigerians and the rest of the world don carry another country matter for head, make una go force the remaining 90% to hate the talibans na

Sometimes the way make una dey reason dey weak person

Did you show any happy citizens?

But youblame me for showing unhappy ones

Daarreenn:
Why are talibans branded terrorist groups and why should they be banned? As long as their people are happy with them and they don't encroach on other countries I couldn't care less how they govern their state. They said they wanted to get rid of opium, alcohol etc and practice their Islam, majority of their people are hardcore Islam, why exactly are we suppose to give a shiit about them?

Do these ones look happy?

They traded their freedom choice for religious fantasy.

Nbotee:
I don't understand what the uproar is about.. The Taliban were the ones ruling Afghanistan for years until America attacked the country in search of Bin Laden and removed the Taliban. Now the Taliban is back after America withdrew it's forces so what's the uproar about? Clearly the country doesn't want the western system of govt. The country had always been an Islamic nation so I wonder why everyone is making a fuss about it

How is this for making a fuss?

During the Taliban's return to power in Afghanistan, the insurgents reportedly married girls as young as 12 and forced them into sex slavery as 'spoils of war,' and killed Afghan troops who tried to surrender.

Kuginzi:
I disagree with you, the fact that few people support evil from a community does not mean everyone is in support. Why don't we support them?

Well, you can speak for your community.

But from here in the South, it's a poor picture

Dangerous situationS can be fun if you Survive it.


I get the kid

Kuginzi:
That's your own insinuation or just imagination.
Instead of you sitting under the tree listening to gossips and fake news and talking from your imagination about the North, I will advise you to travel to the North and make a thorough investigation about who support BokoHaram, and the truth shall set you free.
Secondly, the Pantami you're mentioning, no amount of your propaganda against him will prosper. He became your enemy the day he implemented NIN-Sim linkage. So continue..

I Lived in Katsina for years

I have relatives all over the North.

One of them is a police officer in Bornu.
The police officer told me if corruption from the government and high military is eradicate, another problem they have is the sentiment of the Northern communities for BH

Northerners sentiment for BH is like the Igbos sentiment for IpobS now.
You see ipobs are killing igbos, but most igbos stilL support them

FIRDAUS3:
Between Taliban and America.... The hidden Facts


What is important to understand is that one of the key strategic objectives of the 2001 war on Afghanistan was to restore the opium trade following the Taliban government’s successful 2000-2001 drug eradication program which led to a 94% collapse in opium production. This program was supported by the United Nations.

In the course of the last 19 years following the US-NATO October 2001 invasion, there has been a surge in Afghan opium production. In turn the number of heroin addicts in the US has increased dramatically. Is there a relationship?

There were 189,000 heroin users in the US in 2001, before the US-NATO invasion of Afghanistan.

By 2016 that number went up to 4,500,000 (2.5 million heroin addicts and 2 million casual users).

In 2020, at the hight of the covid crisis, deaths from opioids and drug addiction increased threefold.

It’s Big Money for Big Pharma.

The US opioid crisis broadly defined bears a relationship to the export of heroin out of Afghanistan.

How will this multibillion trade (which until recently was protected by US forces) be affected by the withdrawal of US troops from Afghanistan. Private mercenary companies are also involved in supporting the opium trade.

The US withdrawal has been the object of extensive negotiations between US-NATO and the Taliban. A deal was signed in Doha in late February 2020 at the outset of the Biden Administration.

Did the U.S. reach a “secret agreement” with the Taliban regarding the opium trade?
Restoration of the Drug Trade. Did the Invasion of Afghanistan Contribute to the Increase in Heroin Addiction
What is important to understand is that one of the key strategic objectives of the 2001 war on Afghanistan was to restore the opium trade following the Taliban government’s successful 2000-2001 drug eradication program which led to a 94% collapse in opium production. This program was supported by the United Nations.

Some people reads in oblivion.... The real insight is missing

If the US needs opium it can get it from closer neighbors like Mexico and Columbia. It grows like weed there.
Did I just say weed?
Erase that

This is a joke, right?

This one is still an adolescent nau

In light of the unfolding events, Mr Biden warned the Taliban not to interfere with the US evacuation from Afghanistan, threatening “devastating force, if necessary.”

If the Taliban have ears, they better listen to words 0f warning

Kuginzi:
BokoHaram is just a sponsored group only to destabilize the peaceful coexistence of Nigeria. They are only fighting for their pockets and not for anyone. And BokoHaram can never get the type of support/cooperation Taliban got from their community.

Really?

BH has been successful thus far only because most northerners support their philosophy.
Example: Pantami

stagger:
Go and find out where he studied.

You think the US will simply allow just anyone to enter office in a country where they have sunk such money? The whole plan was to stabilize the country so US business interests will take over the rich mineral resources in the country. The plan backfired and they had to count their losses.

Which country will sink more than ONE TRILLION DOLLARS just to deal with terrorist threats? Are there no terrorists in Lebanon, Syria, Nigeria, Sudan and other countries?

Think my brother. Americans can never be trusted. Go and read about how they flipped on Jonas Savimbi in Angola.

You are funny.

Oil mineral indeed.

And you think if the US impose a leader on Afghans they will take it lying low. These people don't like the US.

The US presence in Afghanistan is not about oil. Afghanistan has little oil.
The US went there when the Taliban abhorred Osama bin Laden.
After removing the Taliban the US thought if they provide quality education, good health care and a formidable military for Afghans the country will be strong enough to sustain itself and the people will be informed and not be radicaliSed. But the greed of their leaders obviously prevented all that.

Last year, the US old this fleeing president to have a peace deal with strong forces in Afghanistan but he kept stalling it.
If the US truly put him there her can't disobey them nau.
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Read the pic

SenecaTheYonger:
Any president that the US puts is always 100% corrupt. it's like the US love putting corrupt guys here to ensure we never progress.

The US didn't put that dude there . He won an election and a re-election in 2019 in which Afghans voted.

In fact, he was just sworn in last year March.

To blow your mind, the US had told this fool to hold a meeting with the Taliban and form a unifying government with some strong forces from Afghanistan but he kept stalling the process thinking the US will stay in Afghanistan ever.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/mobile.reuters.com/article/amp/idUSKBN2BF1CP

adenine02:
Boko Haram is a group but Taliban use to be a government, so please don't compare, it's not the same

Taliban is also a group that took over govt.


If BH succeeds in taking over Northern Nigeria and establish their caliphate, will they stop being a group.

And some people were blaming the US for withdrawing its troops
How can American taxpayers be funding the extravagant lifestyle of a corrupt terrorist nation's govt officials?
Over 13k US and allied forces military men have died in Afghanistan over the past 20 years and over 3 trillion had been spent.

With all these the Afghan soldiers could stand to fight?


Afghan should hold their corrupt politicians responsible.

The irony is that it's these corrupt Afghan politicians that first japa leaving the helpless citizens

motayoayinde:
SO YOU BELIEVE THE "KILL LIST" NONSENSE?

WHERE'S THE LIST?
WHICH WESTERN MEDIA SAW IT FROM THEIR LONDON AND WASHINGTON OFFICES WHEN THEIR CORRESPONDENTS HAVE BEEN HURRIED EVACUATED?

I'M SURE THE FIGHTERS ARE JUST DOING ROUTINE SEARCH.

THEY POSTED THIS PICS THEMSELVES YOU KNOW?

Lol!

You didn't get it. It's just a phrasal verb.

There doesn't have to be a list

SEGLIZ:
I maintain my stand, not to insult your integrity or understanding.

the arab spring is in turmoil, why?

the middle east is in shambles, why?

why do the usa embark on invasion and occupation of other nations?

Joe has spoken well but how you expect a nation without economy run fairly, how do expect them to finance their military when virtually they grounded.

Show me a country the US military is present in without it's govt approval.


You expect the US to jeopardize it's own economy because of the corrupt in Afghan govt?

Is the US the only rich country? Why blaming only the US with all the money in the Middle East, none supported Afghanistan.

Afghanistan is a sovereign state like the US but they don't wanna pack their shits and you expect American soldier to continue dying to pack it.

SEGLIZ:
Abraham and Sarah not waiting on God Devine plan brought this.

this are the descendant of Ishmael, you know them as muslim but ishmaelites.

the usa have tried, yes by leaving them in tears, sorrows and pains.

this is their regular trade mark.

Maybe you can't read.

There are other Super Powers. They should pick it up from there

Ever8090:
USA should just resume assault on this Taliban idiots to save the millions of lives crying for them to save them from the hands of those demons naa...

While China and Russia keep supporting the Taliban with ammunition and logistic?

So the US Army should go and die for Afghans?


The US is done fighting to migrate those who don't even like Americans.

This will teach all Muslims say " death to America" a valid lesson.

So with all support the US gave them they could not resist the Taliban?

The US had tried its best.

I don't think there anywhere in the world the US has given as much as they've given to Afghans


https://www.nytimes.com/live/2021/08/16/us/politics-newshttps://www.nytimes.com/live/2021/08/16/us/politics-news