SlyfoxxjReturns: Lol baba they don’t care about this Nigeria. We were all on our own before one white man came from London and joined us together to serve the commercial interest of Great Britain or don’t you know that Nigeria was started as a company initially? Better read your history.
You hate these people so much but can’t let them go. And then you don’t even give them full rights as citizens of the country you want them to remain in. Na by force? Them say dem no wan do again. It’s either we give them their full rights as citizens of this country, go back to a true federalism system like the early days or we Kuku break up the country.
If the Scottish and Irish can agitate for secession from the UK and the UK can break away from the EU then I don’t think Nigeria is so important that major ethnic tribes here can’t do the same. Remaining part of a country should never be by force for any group.
Is the North the one to let them go? Is the North holding any key that they would use to unlock their Utopian nation? North is just a component, just like every other components in the Country. You keep blaming and insulting the white man, yet you always run to him and beg for citizenship. The last time I checked, Kanu claims to be a British citizen, but yet, he insults them in his propaganda campaign on daily basis.
SlyfoxxjReturns: I can see that You need a little enlightenment on the events that led to the 1966 coup. The north has always had an outsized influence in Nigerian politics nationally. The British designed it that way because the northerners were easier to control due to their feudal and submissive political and cultural structure which was far less egalitarian and individualistic than that of the Igbos and Yorubas.
The northerners who were placed in all top government positions by the British at the time of independence always had a seething hatred and inferiority complex for the Igbo’s because of their industriousness and the fact the Igbos were coming to their land and succeeded more than their own native people. This led to northerners in government marginalizing the Igbos and preventing them from holding any meaningful government positions. It also led to the killing and persecution of Igbo People residing in the north by the local Fulani-Hausa people.
You can watch this 1960 interview by Ahmadu Bello, the premier of the northern region at the time, talking about the Igbos and making no effort to conceal the extreme hatred and prejudice his people feel for them
It also didn’t help that the civilian government at the time was plagued with rampant corruption and most development in Nigeria at the time was happening in the south west due the adept economic policies of Awolowo and other Yoruba leaders who had full control of that region at the time.
Now would you blame the Igbos or any other group for plotting a coup under these circumstances?
Baba. Nigeria has been a dysfunctional county from the very beginning. We are a group of people too diverse in our beliefs to ever coexist peacefully. The vast cultural, religious, educational and societal differences between the north and south should tell you we really have no business being one country with them but even if we must then we need to restructure the system to ensure each region is FULLY autonomous with a weak central government just for general administrative purposes. But we all know the Hausa-Fulani will never let that happen because of their ‘born to rule’ autocratic nature and all the affluence they enjoy under the current system.
Why you defend these people so much and hate the Igbos who have genuinely done nothing wrong is beyond me.
We will keep fighting to hold together a country comprised of a collection of peoples who genuinely don’t like each other. Then you wonder why Nigeria does not work. Oma se o.
All this epistle, trying to justify the forceful conversion from true Federalism to Central Government by the Igbos, and yet in the same epistle, you are clamouring for a return to true federalism, and even claiming that the North will not allow it. Too many of contradictions in just one statement.
SlyfoxxjReturns: Lol baba they don’t care about this Nigeria. We were all on our own before one white man came from London and joined us together to serve the commercial interest of Great Britain or don’t you know that Nigeria was started as a company initially? Better read your history.
You hate these people so much but can’t let them go. And then you don’t even give them full rights as citizens of the country you want them to remain in. Na by force? Them say dem no wan do again. It’s either we give them their full rights as citizens of this country, go back to a true federalism system like the early days or we Kuku break up the country.
If the Scottish and Irish can agitate for secession from the UK and the UK can break away from the EU then I don’t think Nigeria is so important that major ethnic tribes here can’t do the same. Remaining part of a country should never be by force for any group.
It will interest you to know that Nigeria practiced true federalism, not until Igbo soldiers disrupted it and change the system to a central Government. Funny enough, today, it's the same Igbos that are seeking for a return to the status quo.
SIRTee15: Well, maybe u are right. Its possible most nigerians want to believe in the unity project, but the injustice, nepotism and unfairness in governance is driving them towards agitators. For Yorubas who are instrumental to the emergence of this govt to have its own brewing agitation says a lot. The future will decide.
I'm not pro- secession. If anything, I believe there are too many countries in Africa, thereby weakening our collective effort to drive meaningful development and ward of foreign enemies. I think there should be 3-4 countries in Africa with numerous autonomous regions within the nations. As for Nigeria, I support restructuring with federating units allowed to develop at their own pace and convenience.
Now, this is what we call intelligent argument and I salute you for making your point without including abusive words.
As you pointed out earlier, the status quo will not favour any secessionist agitation to see the light of the day, because it favors the political class and other elites in the society. Hausa, Igbo and Yoruba are united up there.
The only place I beg to differ from you is the claim that the North is responsible for the injustices we see in Government, because we practice rotational Presidency, and all regions have their fair share of the Aso Rock seat.
I dare say that, those behind our woes cut across all ethnic and religious divides.
Nonetheless, I believe that strengthening the local Government will allow for more participation of the local populace in the governance of their localities. But as it is now, Governors wield almost equal powers with the President. The only difference is that they don't control the Military and the Police.
You find the highest nepotism and dictatorship at the State level. Governors pocket LGs, Judiciary, State Legislature and State electoral body without anybody calling them to order. By doing so, they dictate who becomes the LG Chairman and Councillors. The Houses of Assembly cannot dare go against them... I can go on and on...
SIRTee15: The only reason nigeria remains united despite agitation down south is because the southern politician are against secession. Forget the myth about northerners are the ones keeping Nigeria United. It has nothing to do with u guys. The southern politicians are the ones suppressing the choice of their own people. They also love the present unitary system of govt.
The power, wealth and influence in Abuja is the sweetest evil created by mankind, n every politician's dream is to have a taste of the pud. The day southern politicians becomes disillusioned with Abuja n speak for agitation/separation...that's the end of nigeria.
And for your info...nigeria will separate without a war. The international community will NEVER allow nigerian situation to descend into another civil war. They cant risk the refugee crisis as a result.
They will sort us out just like they did in 1997 with abiola/abacha saga, and 2003-2007 Niger delta crisis. The outcome will mostly likely be restructuring n elimination of anyone against the concept.
And for decades you guys could not elect politicians that can promote your aspirations huh? If at all the separatist agitation is a popular thing in the South, like minds would've been elected to champion the cause.
It is rather obvious that you guys (secessionists) are quite outnumbered. You apparently don't have the numbers to drive home your agitation for secession.
alphaeus212: So our police now go to churches to fish out protesters?
Go and read again, and if you still don't understand, read all over again, and over and over again, till you understand. And in case you still don't understand, then you need to go back to School.
Gbagura: Who owns this platform you're crying at? A northerner or southerner? Or mention any platform as this belonging to a northerner? We're far far ahead of you hence you can't imagine us living apart because it's gonna be a great loss to your backward north.
Newsflash: it will become clearer when it all goes under. It will surely come no matter how long. It's just inevitable. Now go back to your quota system and enjoy Nigeria while it lasts.
You're becoming more unintelligent and childish with your response, I guess it's time for me to cut you out.
Gbagura: Guy, your almajiris need that your money more. Don't you have shame ni? Use your sọ called Money to elevate your almajiris and put them in school. They are part of reasons why South want to break from this cesspit.
Well, your loss... Pride they say goes before a fall
Yeah sure, the alien crimes of terrorism and banditry are the only things you can point against the North, and even at that, they're under control... But there's no end in sight to drug pushing, cyber crimes, kidnapping, ritual killings, blood money, fraud, cultism etc bedevilling the South.
Gbagura: You problem then that's why we want to seperate from you and your fellow nigeriens as you have a lot in common. It's not our business that you open wide your border for them. I don't even believe all these 'àkóbá àdàbà bambiala' are all nigeriens. Don't deny your mothers going round with plates for daily crumbs.
But bambiala or whatever you call it is more honourable than trading drugs in Asia or even South Africa, and getting a death sentence in the process, abi no be so?
Gbagura: Only a poor man go that line. Mallam go and enroll over 85% of your kids out of school in your region with your #100k bank balance. Una dey disgust me with your belief and way of life. It stinks...
Very funny, all thanks to the faceless nature of Nairaland. Wish you can come down from your high horse and receive my blessings... I was serious about the account number ish, but since you prove stubborn, it's a loss on your side.
Gbagura: Then why do we have many bambialas begging to survive in the south? Explain that
Well, your problem is that you can't distinguish Nigeriens from us. Even in the North, there's influx of Nigeriens into our towns, and beyond, due to the prevailing hunger there... But because of your myopia, once somebody speaks Hausa, then bam, he's a Northerner. And funny enough, some of them cannot even speak Hausa.
Gbagura: Only if you mention at least 5 southerners doing gateman hustle in your north, then I will take your words for it. What you ship to South is unskilled youths and beggers. You can't see any cos we've got potentials in us far ahead of primitive thoughts like banning mannequin and love of insurgency in the name of 72 virgins in the heaven yonder.
What a petty argument, dragging sundry lame and irrelevant accusations, just to make a point. Send your account number, let me bless your Sunday.
FreeIgbos: Is there anything good that comes easy? Do you know how many years Eritreans fought to break free from Ethiopia? What about South Sudan? USSR? Yugoslavia etc.
John Garang fought against North Sudan for decades and eventually died in a plane crash, did it stop South Sudan from becoming independent?
Biafra aspirations is bigger than any individual be it Ojukwu or Nnamdi Kanu, even if Nnamdi Kanu dies today, I can assure you that it won't stop Biafra from being actualized. You Northern parasites are fighting an already lost battle. Your shenanigans can only delay it a little but it will never stop it from coming to pass. Mark it somewhere!
Eyyah, what a motivational talk, send your account number mek I show you love, I think that'd be more consoling than what you wrote up there.
kizsis: I will like to know how much is the basic salary for federal government parastatals and if you are given an opportunity which of the parastatals would you go for?
DankemzI: They're scared of going the North Korean way, while we down south progress & develop rapidly. We keep their excesses in check, they're religious fanatics and pervert. In the south I pray to Mutanda he fights his & my battles but northerners kill for Allah just to go Bleep imaginary 72 virgins In the North mannequins arouse their men
Yess oo, and in the US, they fucck mannequins. I even heard that recently, an oyibo body builder married a mannequin, and those are the people you're looking up to.
Gbagura: Deep down you know you're merely blabbing but enjoy your folly in the meantime. If you're really powerful, southerners shouldn't be hiring all your youths as serfs and me ail laborers cos that's all they are good for. They eat from the crumbs that fall off our table.
What an irony you're trying to tell us here, a slave holding the master hostage... Wow!!! Isn't God wonderful?
Meanwhile, try proof-reading what you type before sending, please.
Gbagura: Isn't it evident? Look at your people, so disgusting. Despite your so call grip on power, you'd lack the brainpower to utilize the privilege by enhancing the human potentials of an average northerner. South rejects you in all totality. Same way South Korea and North Korea parted ways is the same Nigeria would go. Just watch and see how events pan out in the coming years. We don't want to be in the same country with you anymore, is it hard to digest that?
Eyyah, cry me a river... You're going nowhere, not just yet, we decide when you leave. Try and assimilate this and know peace
FreeIgbos: Because they're parasites and believe they would die if they leave their host (South). However, it is the duty of the host (South) that is being leeched to death that must do everything possible to purge itself of the parasite.
Biafra now! Oduduwa now!! Nigeria has expired!!!
You wish it's that easy... Even Ojukwu died with that aspiration, so would Nnamdi Kanu, and junior ASPIRATORS like you.
Gbagura: Thanks for the correction anyways, it was a typo. Meanwhile, we southerners want to develop at a fast pace hence the need to break away from the backward north that embraces primitive beliefs with passion. I would advise y'all start planning for the inevitable cos it will surely happen.
We can't coexist for long. It's not just possible. Backward region can't be dictating for us any longer. Your time is up!
Our time is not up yet. The Great Britain is the one to decide when the time is up, go and lobby them.
Politics › Re: Kenyan Government Involvement In Arrest, Extradition Of Nnamdi Kanu by modsfucker: 6:19am On Jul 05, 2021
