Ghostwon65:
Seriously who care about the ogboni sect ?
Why is this even a debate ?

ask Gregboy he opened this thread or are u blind.

Ghostwon65:


Wtf. Man you are mentally ill.
Omo n'Oba n'Edo is the full title. In short it is Oba.
I have already said this. You are pretending to not have seen it. It is common practice in Edo language to have mixed words like Netete, IGBINOBA (Igbi n'Oba), Iye n'Ochwa...

dumb ass how can only oba be removed for short in the whole sentence. Ur example igbi n’oba came out as igbinoba as short which is logic. So omo n’oba n’edo a full word just happens to be just oba for short a word that coincidentally means king in Yoruba. Let’s say it were even true that I believe u which I don’t not in the slightest cuz u brothers are huge liars it still shows that the word oba doesn’t mean shit in ur language and it’s just short for the full title. Meanwhile in Yoruba we have oba, otunba title which has existed for centuries all over every Yoruba land. Oja oba in every Yoruba land too. Local ruler of a particular land are called baale. So tell me how did yoruba borrow the word oba from benin according to u liars in the 1950 and there is the so many words relating to oba that go back centuries.

gregyboy:


And how did you achieve that

u don’t have real ogboni in Benin what u have is fake. Ogboni in Yoruba land are political and an arm of government during the oyo empire with enormous powers.

Ghostwon65:

Did you even read what you are quoting ?
On it I posted a proof that you Yoruba copied the word from the Oba of Benin whom is the only legitimate holder of the title.

What does king mean in English ?
What does roi mean in French ?
And which precolonial Yoruba dictionary are you quoting about the meaning of the word "Oba" ?

What does Oba mean in Edo language:

The emperor of Benin empire .

lies oba doesn’t even have a meaning in edo language as most of ur brother have admitted several times here what u have is n’oba. And oba doesn’t mean emperor in edo cuz to be an emperor u have to have an empire. When Benin was still a kingdom in early stage the king was still called omo n’oba n’edo so stop lying. N’oba means shining and that’s not a name for an emperor. How can Benin be legitimate owner of a title that has no meaning in ur language. In Yoruba oba is king. Title relating to oba is otunba or u Benin go claim we adopt otunba title too. In oyo past traditions those who are buried with the king are called abobaku. Did we borrow it from Benin too. Get it into ur thick skull. Oba is yoruba n’oba is edo. U only borrowed oba. Shikena.

Igboid:


That stat is not for just university. Its for polytechnic as well and we know how much your people love poly.

ogbeni both university and poly was compile separately and Yoruba still lead in university. U can verify urself.

Ghostwon65:
What exactly does Benin have to do with this discussion ?
You Yoruba really like to mention Benin in every situation.

The emperor of Benin empire is titled:
OMO N'OBA N'EDO. Oba in short.

In the precolonial era, Yoruba chiefs didn't refer to themselves as "Oba". Rather they referred to themselves as ooni, alafin...
In the colonial era Yoruba chiefs started naming themselves in the following manner: "ooni of ife, sir adeyemi", "alafin of oyo, sir adetoye"...
Notice the introduction of two non Yoruba words: "of" and "sir".
The "sir" is a word from English nobility which the yorubas borrowed from the British in order to add some prestige to their titles.

However, later in the colonial era, the Yoruba dropped the word "sir" and replaced it with the word "Oba", yet an other non Yoruba word.

The word Oba belongs to Benin empire, it is how Benin empire calls it's emperor as witnessed by European visitors in the middle ages.

Basically, Yoruba copy other tribes a lot:
2) emir from Fulani
3) "sir" from the British
1) Oba from Benin

Even some Benin traditional swords were copied by the Yoruba.

You guys like to imitate other people's cultures, face this fact and live on.

ur brother open this thread dumbass claiming ogboni belongs to Benin after he lost he also tried to claim the word oba. Oba does not have any meaning in ur language so how can it be urs.

babtoundey:


Even the name given to warlords of every Yoruba town also reflects "oba".
Balogun - Obalojuogun (He who presides in the war front).


Obaseki - shining Seki. I can't laugh enough

their king is “shining ewuare 2”

All this dumb Benin boys. They have admitted that oba doesn’t mean shit in their language. What’s they actually have is something called n’oba which means shining.and in full it’s omo n’oba n’edo which means the one who shines for edo. So it’s obvious n’oba and oba are not the same thing. So why are Benin using oba when it doesn’t mean shit in their language is a million dollar question Benin cannot answer. Oba means king in Yoruba language. Otunba a very well known Yoruba title for centuries means king right hand man. Every market around the king palace is always called oja oba all over every Yoruba land. In oyo past tradition those that are buried with the king are called abobaku, and so many more. But according to thick skulked Benin a word that has meaning in Yoruba and other words with related meaning was borrowed from edo that the word has no meaning to them. It’s ever obvious who is lying here.

gregyboy:



Dump boy benin influence covered them they are direct descendants if benin so if oba happen to be yoruba all of them automatically were youba

And the oba of benin was the one representing them

Dump ass


I never said Oduduwa political party i said political canopy mumu

dumbass stop lying ijaw doesn’t acknowledge Benin whatsoever. So if ur king wax the one that lied and till today he still continued the same lie. His is that Yoruba fault. Ur king was licking Yoruba ass on his own and still doing the same thing till today. It’s either ur king are the greatest ass lickers of all time or he is telling the truth. Either way respect ur king and bow to ur Yoruba ruler.

gregyboy:




To cut the story short all was for political stunt

eweka11 was the one who said ewka1 came from ife....


Ok make it simple our oba, oba eweka wanted the benins to join the political part calked yorubas to aviod been a minority but things got sour when yorubas began tribalism we edos



Nigga i still want you to find ife or oromiyan from benin old text recorded by oromiyan or any relationship between benin-ife or benin-oyo

Yoruba have 1000 of different history having different narrative do you expect me to believe one or all

Samuel johson wrote that benin came directly from Oduduwa, oromiyan was the younger brother to the oba of benin and oromiyan wat quest was all in the north and he never ventured to benin

But your says oromiyan birthed oba of benin and called igodomigodo people lle ibinu

I cant just pick the one that suit you and believe


So to make this easier i told you to prove benin-ife connection first

dumbass do u have any prove that ur oba lied and for political reason. And there was no political party called Yoruba. There were many tribes like uhrobo, ijaw and co in the western region. Why didn’t they lie too about connection to yoruba. If he did lie cuz of western region there is no more western region so why is ur current king still lying.

davidnazee:


You guys are really dumb. When will u understand that Oba in Yoruba means ruler but not king. Your rulers are called Ooni, Alafin, alake, etc.
In English, ruler and king are different words but used in relation to each other.
Oba means ruler in Yoruba.. it’s never meant king only in Benin it meant king.
In the Yoruba contest is like calling Ogunwusi “Ruler Ogunwusi”.

The Edo word for ruler is Ogie.. word for king is Oba.

Cc:TA011 according to the new story now from davidnaze oba now means king while ogie is ruler in edo. Am done

lawani:
oba sijuade was the ooni of ife that is how it is. The oba of ife is the ooni. I hope you understand.

the boy doesn’t know what he is talking about he is a liar.

davidnazee:


You guys are really dumb. When will u understand that Oba in Yoruba means ruler but not king. Your rulers are called Ooni, Alafin, alake, etc.
In English, ruler and king are different words but used in relation to each other.
Oba means ruler in Yoruba.. it’s never meant king only in Benin it meant king.
In the Yoruba contest is like calling Ogunwusi “Ruler Ogunwusi”.

oh boy u have already start lying again oba means king in Yoruba and according to u it means shining in edo. It doesn’t mean king in Benin and there is nothing even called oba in Benin according to u and ur brethren. It’s omo noba nedo. Ole when to run � and claim something different when he realize that all evidence point to Yoruba having the world oba. Chai TA011 come and see ur boys

davidnazee:


It doesn;t make sense to you because you have no sense to conprehend it..

what’s there to comprehend ur king is “shining ewuare” great got it

davidnazee:


Then why is Sijuade addressed as Oba Sijuade or Ogunwusi addressed as Oba Ogunwusi? they should have been addressed as Ooni Sijuade or Ooni Ogunwusi and not Oba..

cuz the Ooni is a king(oba) so why won’t people call him that.

TAO11:


"Uwa" in Yoruba means power, glory, grandeur, honour, etc.

What does it mean in ther language?

Perhaps similar meanings.


"Ade" means crown in Yoruba language.

It probably means the same thing in their language.


But when it comes to Oba

"Oba" means king in Yoruba language.


But in Edo language, "Oba" means "shine-shine" even though it's only their king who is so addressed.


Isn't the inferiority complex obvious??

thanks for the interpretation. With that said I wonder what it means in edo language. Edo said there is nothing called oba that it is omo noba nedo. The child that shine. First of all a ridiculous title second of all who was this first child. How can u call a king a child. Now all of a sudden oba has meaning again and the meaning is shining. Which one should we believe. So does it mean their king is called “shinning ewuare” how does that relate to a king.

davidnazee:


The words ade, uwa, egbe, all have meanings in both Edo and Yoruba languages.. If tomorrow Edo uses any of these words as a powerful title, I bet the yorubas will immediately adopt the title too and start claiming its a Yoruba word only and Edo borrowed it.. we know what you guys are capable of..

ade in Yoruba is crown what does it mean in edo. Egbe in Yoruba is like society or community I don’t know what u mean by uwa but if it’s iwa it’s character. With that said oba means king in Yoruba but in ur language it has no meaning so how does what u wrote make sense.

davidnazee:


They are Obas (rulers) no doubt but were not using the word Oba as a title.. only the Benin kings were called Oba as a title.. The yorubas trying to equate themselves with the Powerful kings of Benin adopted the Oba title..

but oba doesn’t mean shit in Benin though. How can there be oba and they will not be called oba does that make sense to u. Yorubas in Benin called their king oba but I guess they adopted it from u a tribe in edo who they have never heard of in their life. Smh.

gregyboy:




All this does not mean anything if there was never a connection between both party


They are so many documents of tribes benin people encountered in European document

Even dated the time benin newly found eko

But oromiyam, ife, and co was not mentioned even wen benin had to constantly travel to summit the oba head to ife no record was documented down


What of the relationship between benin ans oyo none was recorded too even when oromiyam father migrated to build oyo


If you aint seeing the conspiracy by your people
Thrn only god can judge yoy here

if there was no connection how then did we borrowed the word oba from u. Why does ur oba claim his ancestors came from Ife. Why does he say he is number 40 king cuz oranmiyan was number cuz I don’t seem to remember Yoruba putting a gun to his head to say it. Why does ur edo son egrhaveba who wrote a book where his source according to him is the king and chiefs and lot of prominent families in edo wrote that ur king head is buried in ife and ur king came from ife. Cuz last time I checked those people are not Yoruba.

TAO11:


Volume for the bold.


The truth is that they actually know all these things that Oba is Yoruba, that the Edos dont have the word Oba, etc.

Guess what!? They are just timid, insecure, and gripped hard by inferiority complex.


cc: illicit

fact. How can anybody say the word oba is not Yoruba and borrowed is very ridiculous. How can a word be borrowed when it has a meaning in the language and plenty of others in the Yoruba language relate to it. On the other hand how can someone claim a word if it doesn’t mean shit in ur language.

lawani:
yet Alaafin Sango was nicknamed obakoso in the 15th century?

no mind that guy coming up with made up story. It’s fact that oba doesn’t mean shit in edo while it does in Yoruba along with several other words that relates to oba.

davidnazee:


none were using it before the 20th century.. before the 20th century, Oba Sijuade will be called Ooni Sijuade and not Oba Sijuade so also Oba Adeyemi would have been called Alaafin Adeyemi and not Oba.. none was using the Oba title along with their names till around the begining of the 20th century.
That style was copied from Benin..

lies. Oba means nothing in ur language why would u king be called oba cuz his title is omo noba nedo.

TAO11:


I have an idea:

"Obaseki" means "Shinning-seki"

cc: illicit

lol this edo boys self. Always jumping from one post to another. Anybody with even half sense will know that the word oba is yoruba with all the evidence like the otunba, oja oba, abobaku and co. Even Joba when a new king is installed. It’s clear as Bleep.

TAO11:


Moneywomen17, abeg help me beg gayboy to chop my money:

(1) Provide any document from 1500 to 1930 to prove that your ancestor Ekaladerhan really existed.

(2) Provide any document from 1500 to 1930 to prove that Eweka has parents /s.

(3) Provide any document from 1500 to 1930 to prove that Eweka coined the word "Oba" for the Edos after the Yorubas have been using the word for millennia.

You have a prize of $700 to grab if you prove any one of the foregoing.

lol

davidnazee:


never said the word has the same origin.. my question is why wasn't the Yoruba kings using the Oba title till in the 20th century.. If we should agree you have the word in your language but it wasn;t used as a title till long after the Benin kings were using it..

tell us the name of the obas in Yoruba land that doesn’t use it as a title but are using it now please.

gregyboy:




Enogie is not king either

The etymology of the word means sent



Guy you are stressing yourself


This yorubas are very cunny people out of the world for king they single handedly picked the world oba for representing king
And oromiyan hapoen to name the ruler of benin king instead of ooni



Tell them to prove benin-ife connection from 1475 to 1914 using either archeological evidence or writing document


Within themselves they know the truth

see painment. U said ur king is omo noba nedo the shining one. Oba means king. The kings market is called oja oba all over yoruba land. The right hand man of the king is called otunba. Those who are buried with the king in the olden days of oyo are called abobaku. But according to edo “YoRuBa BORoweD ThE WorD iN tHe 20Th CeNtuRY

illicit:


Ogbeni na crap you dey talk.
a word having the same origin and now u said it means different things. are u even listening to yourself.

I swear that guy is lost. How can a word have same origin and mean different shit. He said oba means shining so i ask him what does obaseki means he couldn’t reply cuz he knows he will look foolish.
This is what obaseki means according to google search. 3 different meanings but nothing that means shining.

gregyboy:




All this one na talk


Prove benin-ife connection first

Because is only ife that happend to have been missing in benin history even igala from the north was documented


Our oba head that was taking to ife was not even recorded by the Europeans

my guy TA011 already proved it to u. So don’t derail the point we are making regarding the word oba. Meanwhile the word Oba is yoruba cuz it doesn’t mean shit in edo language.

davidnazee:


Why is it when you Yorubas are defeated you turn to insults?
even if you have the word Oba in your Yoruba language, you never used it as a title for your kings till after Benin kings started using it.. You copied it from Benin stop denying..
Oba is a benin word even if it doesn't mean king, it means shining in Benin.. just like Alaafin or Ooni doesn't mean king in yoruba language but a title adopted by your rulers.

u are the one who is defeated. And it’s not if we have the word in Yoruba language we definitely have it and it means king. Here we go again with the lies can u tell me one yoruba king that uses the word oba as a title. It’s always been separate and still is. Ur Benin brothers already said there is no meaning for oba in Benin language so stop lying. Ur king title is omo noba nedo not oba. Oba as a single word does not exist in edo.

If u check edo well and edo related people like uhrobo u will know that edo boys are just lying are being deceitful here. Edo word for king is ogie. Uhrobo a related group word for king is Ovie. Itsekiri called their king ogiamen king of the water. According to edo before oba dynasty their king was called ogiso king of the sky. Oba has no meaning in their language but Yoruba oba has a meaning. There is several title relating to oba like Otunba. In the old days of oyo those who die with the king are called abobaku. It’s obvious as Bleep who owns the world at least relating to leadership. Cuz it doesn’t even mean anything relating to leadership in edo.

davidnazee:


Yoruba and Edo lanuages just like many languages around the world have names common to both languages but have different meanings..
so your Oba may have a different meaning to Oba in my language.. As a linguistic you should know this.. but I doubt how well learned you are..

but according to ur brothers oba means nothing in ur language. The title is omo noba n edo. But the Yoruba oba means something in our language. There is nothing called oba in edo vocabulary only Yoruba. Oba is only peculiar to Yoruba.

TAO11:
Keep giving them moneywomen17


The word Oba does not exist in Edo language till date. Hahahahaha


Thank you Edeyoung wherever you are for not denying it when I squeezed you hard.

this edo boys get problem. Oba means nothing in ur language. But u claim people borrowed it from u.