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JesusisLord85: Misquote?
How many times have I noticed the anti-law brigade misquote?
Invetiably, when you haven't read the front of the book, you will not understand Paul's letters.
Acts 15, the whole of Galatians, Romans, 1 Timothy 4 (which I exposed today), you people keep quoting it but in doing so you only make it obvious -to those that know the law - that you have no idea what you are saying.

Romans 7:1 Know ye not, brethren, (for I speak to them that know the law,) how that the law hath dominion over a man as long as he liveth?

Ignore the law, and you will not understand what Paul is saying.

2 Peter 3:16 "As also in all his [Paul's] epistles, speaking in them of these things; in which are some things hard to be understood, which they that are unlearned and unstable wrest, as they do also the other scriptures, unto their own destruction."

They profess to follow yashua but are doing another mans bidding


Even in the old school chinese movies that we all love EVERY LAST DESCIPLE DESIRES TO BE EXACTLY AS HIS MASTER.

Although some like goshen and his children say they are wiser than thier own master and need not follow in his exact foosteps

Madness I tell you. Confirmed Madness


But then again what do they know about descipleship.

They are hooked on showmanship.

noblefada: I don't know why someone is wasting time with @mosthigh and is new accomplice, bunch of confused dudes, talking about law of God & law of Moses, misquoting scriptures to back up their lies (I guess its the new thrend now for atheists, Muslims and perverters of the gospel to quote scriptures because they know many believers don't spend enough time studying). I won't waste my time with mosthigh and his compatriots Obadiah777.
@Goshen wonderful posts by way, more knowledge and wisdow and with us the word will always prevail.

See mumu talk for here keep living in your dream world its ok



He that is against the LAW is LAWLESS ABI UNA NO GO SCHOOL KE.

LAW/LAWLESS

How much simpler can it be?

You openly profess there is no need to live exactly as jesus lives and you say you are ok.

Judgement.

shdemidemi: 2 For the law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus has made me free from the law of sin and death. 3 For what the law could not do in that it was weak through the flesh, God did by sending His own Son in the likeness of sinful flesh, on account of sin:

How many laws can you figure out from the above verse bro?

Here you come again with your flash in the pan.

You should get a pulpit to stand on so that when you talk all this your confusion your mind controlled zombie congregation can be there to ginger you on.

There is nothing to it....

Yashua and the apostles were all lawfull to the end

And here you are coming with your hocus pocus interpretation,shamelessly claiming to be greater than the master

You will get your reward.

shidedemi you are truly the son of the LAWLESS ONE

There is no shame in it just accept it as the first step then you can move on.

JesusisLord85: I challenged his friend Goshen once when he blasphemed by insulting the law. I got no reply

That is thier MO

most times when confronted with the true implications of thier words and actions they just diasappear.

I guess its only natural.

Blaspheming the holy spirit is the only unforgivable sin

They are not content living exactly as yashua lives they want more


Lawlessness I tell you.

shdemidemi: I won't go into any personal exchange with you bro or anyone for that matter. I am quite flattered you find time to follow my post, while you are following, please make sure you take time to read them too.

Selah!

Wetin concern lawlessness with selah?

You aint fooling me Mr man

I would find it very strange you reading the psalms

Seeintg its messages and promises are addressed to JUADIZERS AKA ISREALITES as you put it

JesusisLord85: As you know, I track your posts to make sure you are not leading anyone astray. I notice you pursue hard after others who don't share your view, and argue endlessly.
You know the bible well - though I question your actual understanding - so you make yourself look good to many who only read the bible once a week, at church. It is when you come up against those who have also read, that you back down. In other words, you often bully people here.
I will continue to bring the truth, which I back with scriptural reference AND context

I could not have put it better myself.

BULLY.

shdemidemi: ^^^^

Judgement from who?

Are you not a LAWLESS FELLOW?

By the words of your mouth you have been JUDGED already

Go figure.

shdemidemi: Is it a competition, a contest or a fight?

Like I answerd you befor not at all.

More like its judgement time.

You sure do know when to run though.

Maybe if Goshen was to show face you would be able to stay a bit longer

shdemidemi: The objective was to see where they were coming from and to show them my view point through scriptures. It was clear they weren't having it, so, I had to do the honourable thing to avoid unnecessary arguments.

I hear you.

Meanwhile on other pages you are running up the meter in unecessary arguments.

Children of the lawless one

I tell you.

Here I am now and you run with your tail between your legs I am sure goshen is hiding somwhere watching us as we speak

DrummaBoy: Sebi I told you

Lawlessness.

Goshen Goshen where art though?

Though that has placed thyself HIGHER than the master himself.

Potraying yourself as the master

Even going as far as addressing the master and apostles with derogatory names. JUADIZERS ABI?

And from what We can see you are even being worshipped by some as the master, they putting the masters words aside and freely partaking with you in your feast of LAWLESSNESS.

Hell fire is full witrh the children of the LAWLESS one.

shdemidemi: I am done with the two of you for now..thanks for having me.

Done?

Joker for sure....

shdemidemi: Is the law of Moses capable of making anyone righteous?

Perfectly so

Without the LAW where would you get the word RIGHTEOUS

Its like saying heaven without earth

Being HOLY is a different kettle entirely though

RemembeR TO BE HOLY ONE HAS TO BE SET APART

shdemidemi: Is this a contest bro?

I am trying to reason with you, please answer my question. (If you would)

No contest here, and fire upon all forms of competition.

Having said that let me address your question again.

There is no phrase for different laws such as the law of God, Gods laws. Moses commandments , Gods commandments There are no distinctions, they are all Moses law.

John 7:19: “Did not Moses give you the law, yet none of you keeps the law? Why do you seek to kill Me?” (did not Moses come down from the mount with the 10 C. the law of God.) Vs:23 “If a man receives circumcision on the Sabbath, so that the law of Moses should not be broken, are you angry with Me because I made a man completely well on the Sabbath? The issue is the Sabbath day and his healing on it. Here Jesus relates the law of Moses is related to the Sabbath which is part of the 10 Commandments, they are one unit.

JesusisLord85: He reckons Moses went up the mountain for 40 days and nights to write his own book. That law was already in effect, it was just being cast in stone to keep the rebellious people on the straight and narrow.

The new covenant was that he would write these instructions in their hears.

Jeremiah 31
Behold, the days come, saith the Lord, that I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel, and with the house of Judah: 32 not according to the covenant that I made with their fathers in the day that I took them by the hand to bring them out of the land of Egypt; which my covenant they brake, although I was an husband unto them, saith the Lord: 33 but this shall be the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel; After those days, saith the Lord, I will put my law in their inward parts, and write it in their hearts; and will be their God, and they shall be my people. 34 And they shall teach no more every man his neighbour, and every man his brother, saying, Know the Lord: for they shall all know me, from the least of them unto the greatest of them, saith the Lord: for I will forgive their iniquity, and I will remember their sin no more.


But what would the lawless know about the prophets

Brother you made my day @ Already in effect and Instructions in thier hearts

Goshen and his gang have drafted a new constitution which they are yet to bind in leather or maybe try and cast in stone tooo.

shdemidemi: Please my brother,

Who does that verse regard as carnal?

Is the law of God as used in the above verse the same as the law of Moses?

Confused .com

Is the law of God Different from the LAW of moses?

shdemidemi: ...how else can I understand, if you don't answer my questions!

How does your insisstent TECHNICAL question about stoning to death negate the INSTRUCTIONS AND TEACHINGS that were observed by the master and his TRUE disciples?

I have asked you to be mercifull in response to your question just as you proffessed master is, but you still want blood

Well no blood for the vampires today

We say mercy is the way.

shdemidemi: 1 tim 4
4 For every creature of God is good, and nothing is to be refused if it is received with thanksgiving; 5 for it is sanctified by the word of God and prayer.


You have not shown me where they stoned anyone according to the law of Moses. All you are showing me are Jewish traditions and customs.

These are the traditions and customes which the master and apostles observed (LAW)

Obviously you still dont get it.

You cannot be greater than the master just try your best to be exactly LIKE HIM.

Preadventure you will not be told to get thee behind you hypocrite.

I know in your household there is nothing wrong with eating blood

Or eating strangled things

Or dead things for that matter

Lawless children are all in HELL

JesusisLord85: Children of lawlessness.

Romans 8:7 "Because the carnal mind is enmity against God: for it is not subject to the law of God, neither indeed can be"

You think Moses gave the law? Was he not the messenger. Stop insulting the Torah (instruction of God/word of God).

John 1:1 " In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. 2 The same was in the beginning with God. 3 All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made. 4 In him was life; and the life was the light of men. 5 And the light shineth in darkness; and the darkness comprehended it not."

This word was made flesh. When you insult the law, which Paul says is "holy", you insult God.

I beg those of you that follow this 'wide is the gate' doctrine to search the scriptures. It is only in this way you will find the truth.

2 Corinthians 11:14 "For if he that cometh preacheth another Jesus, whom we have not preached, or if ye receive another spirit, which ye have not received, or another gospel, which ye have not accepted, ye might well bear with him."

Well, according to some of you, there are two gospels. The more you talk, the more ignorance you display for all to see.

Yeah. they love to see a Lawless Jesus in thier hearts, a jesus that the apostles never preached about

Pure Lawlesness

DrummaBoy: Debating MostHigh is a waste of valuable time

You Obviously have no spine.

shdemidemi: I guess you want is to skip that too.^^^^^


According to the law of Moses, how many people did the apostles put to death by stones and rocks according to the dictate of the law?

The same apostles condemded eating strangled animals or eating blood... JUADIZING

All of them set themselves apart (NAZERITES) JUADIZING

All are guilty of juadizing as you say

So go figure.

Its not rocket science.

THEY ARE EXACTLY AS THE MASTER IS BUT NOT GREATER.

But you and your kind are somthing else entirely

Simply put.....

LAWLESS.

shdemidemi: You are not focused on the issue bro. You are a strong believer in do exactly like Jesus did and that is why I am asking you questions about Jesus and his relationship with the law of Moses.
That is not to say we won't address the Paul and James issue, I want us to be clear that Jesus is actually Lord over the law given to Moses.

I ask again- the law says an adulteress should be stoned, Christ thought she should go. Do you think that act is against the law of Moses?

It takes the holy spirit to temper mercy with justice

So is your heart now bad because the masters heart is good?

You can be exactly as the master is but not greater.

what you have are vain imaginations

Carry your CROSS and follow and stop all this GREEK talk.

shdemidemi: “Remember the Sabbath day, to keep it holy. 9 Six days you shall labor and do all your work, 10 but the seventh day is the Sabbath of the LORD your God. In it you shall do no work: you, nor your son, nor your daughter, nor your male servant, nor your female servant, nor your cattle, nor your stranger who is within your gates. 11 For in six days the LORD made the heavens and the earth, the sea, and all that is in them, and rested the seventh day.

I will skip that since you have said no to avoid contradicting yourself but you have. I am not here to prove you wrong, I am only trying to show you what the scripture says.


What does the law require the people to do to an adulterer?

The Bolded in you answer is typical.

Why not address issues one at a time there is no rush is there?

Even the pharasees would have saved thier own animal on the sabbath talk less of healing a human being.

Thats the message the master is passin to his TRUE desciples, but you cant see that.

You are as technical as the pharasees and that is why you cannot temper mercy with justice.

There shall be no mercy for the mercyless.

shdemidemi: You did not answer my questions bro.

Was Christ not arrested for breaking the law?

Can you give me any verse where Christ says you must obey the laws given to Moses for the nation of Israel even after I fulfil the demands please.


You said healing on the sabbath would not make him lawless even though its against the law.. Please show me what gives you this idea.

Was paul not accused of being the ringleader of the NAZERITES EVEN AFTER yashua HAD FUFULLED THE DEMAND?

Why did he and the apostles still indulge in JEWISH VOWS after fulfillment as you say?

Did paul not set himself apart to the most high as scripture has testified in acts 18:18?

Did james not settle the issue of circumsicion with for example lev 17:14 was this not aslo after he had FUFILLED THE DEMAND?

shdemidemi: Was it against the law of Moses to heal on sabbath day?

Please answer with a yes or a no.

NO!!!!!

shdemidemi: You did not answer my questions bro.

Was Christ not arrested for breaking the law?

Can you give me any verse where Christ says you must obey the laws given to Moses for the nation of Israel even after I fulfil the demands please.


You said healing on the sabbath would not make him lawless even though its against the law.. Please show me what gives you this idea.

The constitution of the future Kingdom is the LAW

It cannot get any simpler than that

It is revealed in the LAW AND PROPHETS AND THE GOSPEL AS WELL

Dont pretend as if you dont know

But then again I remember you and your kind dont belive THE MASTER WILL EVER COME BACK

Hence your Lawlessness

But though he may tarry he WILL STILL COME.

shdemidemi: You did not answer my questions bro.

Was Christ not arrested for breaking the law?

How does that legitimise lawlessness?

He was lwafull in his living even if he by your own definition broke the law as you say with your lips

It is you who have judged him as breaking the LAW exactly as the pharasees did

shdemidemi: My brother, why did Christ do so many miracles on sabbath day against the dictate of the law?


This was the word of Christ

Then He said to them, “What man is there among you who has one sheep, and if it falls into a pit on the Sabbath, will not lay hold of it and lift it out? 12 Of how much more value then is a man than a sheep? Therefore it is lawful to do good on the Sabbath.”

Did Christ not say these things

For the Son of Man is Lord even of the Sabbath.”?

Why did Jesus stop the people from killing the adulterous woman?

Did he not give us all the reasons to know He is Lord over the law of Moses?

Did His death not fulfil the demand of the law?

You are quite right the DEMAND ended on the cross but I repeat again that the EFFICACY STILL REMAINS

Most especially when you are amongst LWALESS INDIVIDUALS like GOSHEN, remember it is written that the heathen shall be ruled with A ROD OF IRON AKA the LAW in the future KINGDOM.

If I remember correctly john 8:34 Yashua is asking the EXPERTS and DOCTORS of the LAW which one of then can condemn him of SIN.

Sin is contrary to LAW

And none of them could just as theY couldnt condemn john the baptist either


Healing on the sabbath could never make him LAWLESS beforen the father.

It only revealed him as a mercifull man?

ayoku777: This is what we need to be hearing, on TV and in church, not all these deliverance from demons on tv that mocks christianity. The church needs deliverance from ignorance and from the Law. If believers are taught grace, trust me, we will have less things to be delivered from.

Good to know you are aware of the mockery you face daily being called a christian AKA follower of christ

Yet you do not observe nor keep sacred his testimonies

You have chosen the lawless path.

Yashua was lawfull to the end as scripturs has testified and all his TRUE desciples also

The DEMON called goshen calles yashua and all his desciples JUADIZER without batting an eyelid.

Surely he will get his reward.

ayoku777: This is what we need to be hearing, on TV and in church, not all these deliverance from demons on tv that mocks christianity. The church needs deliverance from ignorance and from the Law. If believers are taught grace, trust me, we will have less things to be delivered from.

You can be exactly as your master is but not greater

Children of lawlessness

The man you claim as your master obeyed the law to the letter

And so also all his TRUE desciples

But you and your kind are so TECHNICAL you know more than yashua abi?

Lawless children fighting the ROD OF IRON daily

WHY DO THE HEATHEN RAGE AND THE GENTILES IMAGINE A VAIN THING?

ifee-gee:
A similar topic was taught in church on Friday ,couldn't comprehend much 'cos of all the technicalities,
Prayed for understanding through the Holy Spirit.
Stumbled on this article,didn't want to read 'cos of the length , somehow got around to reading it,compared notes.
Honestly,it's making more sense now. Thank you.

Meanwhile yashua was in no way technical.

He always spoke simple english to his desciples, of which you are privy to those private discussions now but you rather stay on the broad road to hell

Goshen is as technical as they come

And he is keeping you all in HELL.

You have been warned.

Goshen360: You're the righteousness of God in Christ. It is God's gift and so you shall reign in life.

LWTMB

Confusion.

Even the master himself Yashua obeyed the LAW and all his TRUE desciples with him also (Thier biblical life reveals this clearly)

So how come this is still a MYSTRY to all ye sons of lawlessness.

You can be EXACTLY as the master is but not GREATER

HOLYNESS and RIGHTOUSNESS are not the same thing

Rightousness cannot be separated from the LAW

While being HOLY has to do with the HEART