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Goshen360: The above in RED was exactly I laughed at him. He quotes scriptures RELIGIOUSLY not knowing what it means. He still believes he is a sinner after what Christ had done for him by reserving what Adam did to him.

Goshen360: I have asked similar question on the saints and sinner thread. Please give me\us JUST ONE scripture THAT SAYS the laws given to Moses was divided into MORAL, CEREMONIALS ETC.

I will still explain by my promise, finding quality time. Thanks.

shdemidemi: My brother, I am not defining sin from law of Moses. Apart from the law, God has created every man with a conscience to know right from wrong, encouraging se.xual immorality is obeying the demands of our flesh. I will leave it at that bro, I hope you understand what I mean.

obadiah777: hmm hmm hmmm lawd ave mercy. i think i have a scripture for this post >>> revelation 10 vs 10 And I took the little book out of the angel's hand, and ate it up; and it was in my mouth sweet as honey: and as soon as I had eaten it, my belly was bitter.

obadiah777: hey my chief whats good with ya ? alienvirus just asked after you. trust all is well sire. i need to add that psalms to the bible to make it the 151th psalm

Ishilove: Obadiah777 is a very depressing fellow... Imagine opening the page and reading this kind of poem first thing in the morning. The rest of that day will be ruined!!

Zikkyy: you are going to Sokoto to look for something that should be inside your shokoto. Your waka Just dey start

obadiah777: well about 30 minutes ago i figured that there are 150 psalms written by several prophets so why not try to write my own psalms pretending as if i was a prophet of old. well it is titled

THE PSALMS OF OBADIAH777 IN THE SIXTH TRUMPET OF THE LIONS DEN


Selah

Good to see you back brother


[b]oh lord ye have made me possess the sins of my youth
I possess days of darkness and vanity
uncertainty and rotteness fill my belly
i have been compassed about by a zoo of strange animals
the beasts of the field
the fowls of the heaven
the fishes of the sea
cattles and wild dogs have compassed me round about
the young lions gnaw on my carcase
and the eagles hover over my bones
I am become a spoil and no one says, restore
My eyes fail from longing
Corruption doth triumph
and the law doth never go forth
because I have been compassed about by beasts of the field
thou hath abandoned my soul in the lions den
i have become meat for the prey
thou hath abandoned my soul in the ark
I lie in desolation in the wilderness
my branches art withered
and my root is dried up
thou art angry with me o lord
i will lie in the dust
and possess my lot
when thou come callin I will
earnestly give ear to thy laws and statutes
i will give myself unto thee
and walk in thy statutes
thou will recompense the wicked
thou will discover his iniquity until thy find none
brimstone and hail will thy rain on his habitation
his mountain shall be laid desolate
all the goods which he hath taken by the force of the sword will he restore
he shall be made from a mountain into a valley
their shall be darkness in his habitation
his light shall be put out after him
he shall serve those whom he hath oppressed
and will seek his bread out of the clefts of the rock
it shall not go well with him
he shall be a vagabond
and a spoil
and everyone who see him shall spoil without
because he hath not shown mercy to the poor and afflicted
mercy shall not be shown to him
selah
[/b]

shdemidemi: For the woman who has a husband is bound by the law to her husband as long as he lives. But if the husband dies, she is released from the law of her husband. 3 So then if, while her husband lives, she marries another man, she will be called an adulteress; but if her husband dies, she is free from that law, so that she is no adulteress, though she has married another man.

I will help our brother out with Romans 7:2

The question from Chapter 6:1 was shall we continue in sin that grace may abound?

The analogy of marriage was used by the apostle to further buttress his point-

The woman in the analogy represents a believer

Her first husband is the sin nature

The law of her first husband represents the law of Moses

The woman must obey the law of her husband as a principle of marriage

She is bound to the laws of this first husband as long as the husband is alive.

Christ became sin, he died as the first husband

The woman is now free to marry another husband

The new husband is the risen Christ

The woman cannot live with the new husband as if she were living with the old husband because the new husband has his own laws

The new law is the law of God different from the law of condemnation , sin and death.

Goshen360: I have told you what Grace says in my teachings but you guy blew up everything in your fight against me. I no know wetin I do una sef. You just said you are not saying one can receive God's righteousness by keeping the law. What then are we saying here? The law I advocate is the LAW OF CHRIST, THE LAW OF THE SPIRIT. The law UNTO THEMSELVES for the gentiles.

Okay, lemme take it one by one with you.

Answer the question shdemidemi asked you. In Romans 7:2, what is it that BINDs a woman to her husband. Just answer simple question and we deal with this issue.

shdemidemi: For the woman who has a husband is bound by the law to her husband as long as he lives. But if the husband dies, she is released from the law of her husband. 3 So then if, while her husband lives, she marries another man, she will be called an adulteress; but if her husband dies, she is free from that law, so that she is no adulteress, though she has married another man.

I will help our brother out with Romans 7:2

The question from Chapter 6:1 was shall we continue in sin that grace may abound?

The analogy of marriage was used by the apostle to further buttress his point-

The woman in the analogy represents a believer

Her first husband is the sin nature

The law of her first husband represents the law of Moses

The woman must obey the law of her husband as a principle of marriage

She is bound to the laws of this first husband as long as the husband is alive.

Christ became sin, he died as the first husband

The woman is now free to marry another husband

The new husband is the risen Christ

The woman cannot live with the new husband as if she were living with the old husband because the new husband has his own laws

The new law is the law of God different from the law of condemnation , sin and death.

ckkris: Please Sir, kindly change this USERNAME. You know its not proper for a human being that suffers malaria to bear or use this loftiest of all titles. Thanks.

shdemidemi: See bro, the bible says the law is spiritual, it is from God. There is nothing wrong with the law on its own, but the law must be applied on man. But man has a problem, he was born a sinner. His eyes, his hand, his ears, his nose, infact all his body members were made to admire and crave for sinful things. It is not the fault of man cos he inherited the nature of sin from the first man.

Remember the law is good but man is not. The law + the sin nature in man= death. We both agree the law can not make me righteous, it can only track me down whenever my sinful members do what they know how to do best.

My eyes can like to see things, it is not the fault of my eyes, it was made that way. My hand likes to feel things, it was made that way. Christ took the law away, paid the wages of my sin which is death that I may live. He imputed righteousness in me, what a friend we have in him.

Goshen360: @ MostHigh and JesusisLord85,

It is my heart desire to take Moses out of you as a brother in Christ AND replace with Christ + His finished works. That's my aim. You people are upholding Mosaic too long, we look unto Jesus our mediator but the law condemns. I want to take away Judaism (religion of the law) out of you and present\replace with the reality of Christ. The law POINTS to Christ and NOW that Christ have come, what are you people still looking back. Make una no go turn to pillar of salt

Goshen360: That's Paul who KNOWS the law in and out telling you that deep mysteries. And what Paul taught was what Christ revealed to him. The one who gives the law knows how to terminate the law and the lope holes therein. Go and learn the law very well before you trying to teach the law.

Ihedinobi: Where did Jesus break the Law that He said He came to fulfill?

Goshen360: I'm talking A, you talking B. Is that how you respond to questions asked? Who doesn't know the law? I have read the Torah more than you and I can use the NT to explain the Torah to you because its all SHADES AND SHADOWS therein. That's why you cannot see who is behind the scene because a veil is still your heart but when you turn to the Lord, the viel is taken away and you will NOW see the REAL PERSON who cast the SHADE AND SHADOWS OF THE LAW.

Now, I was talking about . . . there is an EXISTING law that who is caught in adultery should be stoned to death. That's what the law says, that's condemnation of sinners but Grace says there's joy in heaven over one SINNER that come to repentance and turn unto God.

Jesus broke\violated that law that says an adulterer caught must be stones to death BUT there's not existing law in the entire mosaic that charged against Christ THAT IF A PERSON PARDONS WHOEVER IS CAUGHT IN ADULTERY, SUCH PERSON SINS AND ALSO GUILTY OF THE LAW. There's none and so, you cannot charge Christ of breaking any law BY PARDONING someone who is caught in adultery.

New Living Translation (©2007)
For the law always brings punishment on those who try to obey it. (The only way to avoid breaking the law is to have NO law to break!) Romans 4:15

JesusisLord85: hahahahahahhahahahhahahahahhahah
It is not good to laugh at others, but you leave me with few options.
I will also cast you into the 'ignore' list. Just dawned on me I have spent far too much time engaging shdemidemi and he has learned nothing. Your case is worse. Notwithstanding, I will contibue to track you guys to make sure you don't lead any to your broad road of non-repentance.

Shalom

JesusisLord85: Just how old are you? unbelievable.

This whole 'shades' and 'shadows'. I get the suspicion you don't even know what you mean by that, because I know what it means. Anyway, I have done my part, reproving false teachers.

Goodnight

JesusisLord85: Lol. God also said he knows the tribulation of the Jews, and the blasphemy of those claiming to be Jews. Did I read that KVJ wrong. What does it say in the message translation? Could it have said Pentecostal?Catholic? Baptist? It could not have meant Jew, because those guys are bad, they teach righteousness, right?

lol

JesusisLord85: Jeremiah 6:10 springs to mind:

"To whom shall I speak, and give warning, that they may hear?
behold, their ear is uncircumcised, and they cannot hearken:
behold, the word of the Lord is unto them a reproach;
they have no delight in it."

'wide is the road' they say.

JesusisLord85: I wonder which of the 12 gates in Revelation 21:12 they will enter through

"And had a wall great and high, and had twelve gates, and at the gates twelve angels, and names written thereon, which are the names of the twelve tribes of the children of Israel:"

JesusisLord85: I wonder which of the 12 gates in Revelation 21:12 they will enter through

"And had a wall great and high, and had twelve gates, and at the gates twelve angels, and names written thereon, which are the names of the twelve tribes of the children of Israel:"

JesusisLord85: False teacher in operation. See how they marvel.

Goshen360: Haaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa. Insulting the finished works of Christ! An enemy of Christ you are AKA AntiChrist! Christians are heathen?

Goshen360: You know when Paul said, some people want to teach the law to Christians BUT THEY DON'T KNOW WHAT THE LAW SAYS. He, Paul repeated same thing in Romans 7:1. (I am talking to THOSE WHO KNOW THE LAW) I bet my life, that guy will NEVER answer that question in Romans 7:2 because he knows that is an exposure of his errors and heresies. Honestly, it is ONLY a man like Paul who KNOWS the law that can destroy the law in and out. We teachers of Grace have dine and wine with the law and we understand it bondage to THOSE IT WAS GIVEN TO. How can you explain cut off your hands when it makes you sin? Some people will say that is NOT a literal meaning or translation. What then does it mean if not what it means\says?

flourishG: are you an enemy of Christ's work on the cross or what?

Goshen360: 1. I never knew you are a JEW o. Chei, Sabbath ke?

2. God remarrying Israel? So where does the church belong? Concubines?

3. It is very clear you don't understand nothing about romans 7. What nonsense you wrote up there? Did he say LAW of ADULTERY? You're really messing yourself up now. The scripture simply says LAW NOT Law of Adultery? What school did you attend?

Goshen360: Do you want more laws that Christ violated and the reasons he did that?

Goshen360: It is obvious you're clueless of what I'm saying and where I'm going. Did I say Christ was a sinner? Was Christ the one that was caught in Adultery? Sin is transgression of the law. It was the woman that broke the EXISTING LAW OF WHEN CAUGHT IN ADULTERY. There is NO EXISTING law of that talked about what Christ did - that's the lopehole of the law right there. So Christ is NOT breaking any existing law BY NOT ALLOWING HER TO BE STONED TO DEATH.

^ He that gave the law KNOW THE LOPEHOLES OR LIMITATIONS OF THE LAW AND ALSO KNOWS HOW TO TERMINATE THE LAW!

Goshen360: Hahahahahahaha! I go laugh you die tonight. Okay, let start with #1.

The law says Stone whoever is caught in adultery to death. When the woman was caught in the very act. What did Christ do and what IS THE MEANING OF THAT MESSAGE OF CHRIST since Christ is the GRACE living under the dispensation of the LAW at that time. Abeg no run this and by the way, we are taking it step by step, that you long epistle to little answer is wearing us out. Simple question, what does the it says BINDS a woman to her husband, you are writing long epistle. A typical way of dubious people.

Ihedinobi: By all means, do.