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Empiree:
wow. Subhanallah.

In as much she's not interested in marriage with human man I think there is little family can do. She had physical kids?.

Nkan nbe

Empiree:
Sheikh Isa Akin dele narrated his experience during Ruqya on a lady who has not given birth but she already looks like "adelebo". During Ruqya, a male Jinn inside her claimed the lady is his wife and that she already has 4 kids for him. While Sheikh is talking to the Jinn the lady's breast started shaking up and down. Sheikh asked what's that?. Jinn said her babies are breastfeeding that's why her breast dropped like adelebo. Sheikh Akindele said this is a new experience for him.

But the clause here is that the babies are Jinn. Their "mother" doesn't see them. That's, she doesn't have kids physically in this planet earth. The reason she came for Ruqya was because men picked her and dumped her. Obviously this is due to the Jinn (oko oru). This is why I'm not sure of Balkis being half human/Jinn.

Alhajiemeritus:
Yh.
Sheikh Ikupakuti is not correct.

Empiree:
I was carried away for few mins staring at my screen when I was page 145 (last page) with ikupakuti's comment but showing 2017 and the last comment (showing recent post). Took me a while to figure out it is attachment. I thought ikupakuti returned to leave the comment lol

Empiree:
Salaam Alaikum,


I am looking for Ikupakuti's post where he talked about Balkis (wife of nabi Sulaimon) being half human/half Jinn. This alfa seems to disagree with that but upon listening to him further it looks like they are actually saying the same thing.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wMvPafyYjMM

Alhajiemeritus:
Ibn Khaldun didn't really say a Sheik is not needed in it's entirety. This can be observed in his description of the three cycles of mujahada. None of the previous scholars also completely denounced books as a source of spiritual knowledge.He even emphasized that a spiritual master is necessary in the third cycle which is mujahadat Al Kashif. The only issue with Ibn Khaldun is that he had issues with some sheikhs such as Al Arabi, he claimed some of their texts were full of Life and innovations. Ibn Khaldun had an issue with the Wadat Al Wujud concept espoused by Al- Arabi and his cohorts. This was the major sentiment that was carried into his examination of any of their works.

Ibn Al- Arabi made some spurious claims which led to his harsh condemnation by Ibn Khaldun , for example he claimed to be the seal of saint hood.

Yes, one could argue the "contentious" nature of such a bold stance, but the question remains that who, over the centuries, has come close to the profundity of his kind and degree of knowledge?

His theory of the perfect man seems problematic too, although I don't fully understand it.

Insan Al Kamil is an honorific for RasulAllah (S.A.W.) that has its offshoot from Surah Al Ahzab, Q33.21; where Allah eternally placed him on a pedestal as a poster of perfection for all who aspire nearness to Him, remember Him very much as well as look forward to the last day.
Insan Al Kamil as a concept - briefly - is the one who has successfully achieved self-realization, self-conquest, a perfectly polished mirror that reflects the Tajalli of Allah's divine names and attributes and is a true bridge (isthmus) between heaven and earth.

Ibn Khaldun also had his own issues, he didn't believe in the Mahdi, he claimed all Mahdi hadiths were forged.

...and that is why I believe that he not having realized/lived the path through any means or Tariqah in order to critique those personalities, came in heavily biased...a huge departure from Al Ghazali with the philosophers...
Ibn Khaldun did not also believe in the concept of a Qutb (pole) as he was completely dismissive of it, attributing it and such other concepts as the creations of "simpletons" and "idiots" who are devoted to Sufism.

I believe it's better people know the kind of sheiks they follow. If a sheik follows a controversial doctrine, it's better to revert back to the Quran and Sunnah.

Yes, yes, and yes! As has been enumerated quite a couple of times on this thread by Shaikh Empiree, LadunaI, Ikupakuti, and a host of others, one needs to have a firm foundation and grasp of Fiqh (Jurisprudence) before anything else.

Thank you for your very interesting analysis!

Alhajiemeritus:
I may disagree with you a bit.
In my opinion learning from students of different Sheiks make those sheikhs your sheikh too, because you are following their path.
For example Prophet Muhammad is our grand Sheikh, once we are linked to him we do not really need to have a living Sheikh.
Do you get my drift?

Empiree:
Hummm so Ibn Khaldun didn't favor a guide shaykh. I actually thought being a philosopher he inclined to the idea teribiya. Since the sister posted this topic I gone through his book again. That was a great debate and he entitled to his view actually and he was right to some extent in his own right.

For me I am definitely in support of the former.

LadunaI:
Wow! You brought back my memory of two decades ago where I normally used all my library tickets (5) to collect Islamic literatures/books like the one you shared now, while I am an engineering student. Such is the level of my "addiction" to Islamic materials then lol.

I will have to read these screenshots in details and slowly. But from the what I can remember and a short answer to your questions.

#1 It was unanimously agreed in Sufi circle that a guide (murshid) is always needed for muridi to grow spiritually. And there is a popular slogan then that "Those that don't have a guide would have Satan has their murshid". This is later divided into two.

I actually asked this question because there seems to be a surging popularity of 'doing away" with any guide to begin with.
The guides/teachers/murshid is viewed as a cumbersome presence who seems to have an exaggerated view of his importance in today's world.

A. Those that have living guide
B. Those that are guided by the Ruh of "dead" Sufi Sheikhs or Living without physical relationship often called uwaysis phenomenon.


Thank you for replying and I look forward to the continuation of your views. This is a hot-button topic as it's been termed "innovation" and "jinn deception" because according to them, who is dead is dead, and the dead cannot be of any use to the living. They even place RasulAllah (S.A.W.) on this pedestal too!

This phenomenon can be be seen in mostly all Sufi orders with physical murshid-muridi relationship. And some people without any know physical guide but are nurture by previous sheikhs. The likes of ibn arabi sheikh Akbar as fondly called has no living guide, Abu yazid bastami, Kharaghani, Shirindi etc.

Also the one we're familiar with Shehu AbdulQadir jelani, Shehu Ahmada Tijanniy (though has some living guide before transitioning to non living just like Shk. Shirindi) and Shehu Ibrahim Niyas. etc.

#2. Ibn Khaldun criticism of Ibn Arabi and the likes is well founded because the theories and concept ibn Arabi was dishing out was extremely esoteric that even elite find it controversial at time especially his infamous "Wahadahtul wujuhu". And you see this where imam Ghazali come clean from all of then that is impossible to always explain most of these Marifa in worldly languages. Is like trying to put an Ocean in a bottle is very difficult, no matter how much you try. To be contd...

Alhajiemeritus:
Let me search for the PDF file and download.
It's not easy reading the screenshots

movado19:
Salam Alaikum And Jumma Mubarak to Everyone.

@ Alhajiemeritus, Empiree, LadunaI, Hkana, littleguy444, yasolan, Excel70, and everyone who wants to contribute, what's your take on:

1. Having a Living Shaikh in order to grow spiritually. Is it a necessity or not so much?
2. Ibn Khaldun's stance/criticism regarding the likes of Ibn Arabi, Al Buni, et al?

Please read the attachment and I look forward to interesting/ diverse views.

Please don't me to "summarize" oh!
It's only 30 pages.

Empiree:
It is Nigeria Alfa that gave its meaning. Alfa has meaning in Greek language and it ia girl's name. It also has meaning in Arabic which means thousands but Yoruba muslims twisted it and it became permanent description for muslims scholar or any muslim that is capable of teaching islam, Arabic and spirituality.


From Greek definition

Alfa a name for girls (also used as boys' name Alfa) has its root in Greek, and Alfa means "beginning". Alfa is a variant form of Alpha (Greek): first letter of the Greek alphabet. Alfa is a rare given name for women. Alfa is an equivalently unique last name too for all people. (2000 U.S. CENSUS). Alfa entered the list in 1890-1899 and reached its top position of #1988 in the U.S. in the 1890s, but is not ranked currently. (TOP BABY NAMES, 2018). The only other popular alternative form of Alfa is Alpha. Adoption of these relations of Alfa was at its apex in the 1890s (USAGE OF 0.03%), but now, the version Alpha has become somewhat outmoded.



From Arabic Perspective

Alfa ألفة in Arabic language means one thousand. The one and only meaning for Alfa in its original language is 1000. However, in an attempt to justify the meaning of Alfa in Nigeria, the Yoruba Muslims interpret Alfa as someone who has the cognitive and spiritual capacity to teach and train 1000 students. Alfa also means Gift and familiarity. There is always strong relationship btw Yoruba and Arabs

Empiree:
walaikun salaam.

Don't mind them. The reason we are having these problems in Islam is because we do not have proper subjects segregation like western education. It is in Islam you see Alfa in the science of Hadith condemning fatwa in the line of Sharia without knowledge of the later.

It is in Islam Alfa alaqeeda condemns tassawuf without knowledge of tassawuf. They don't stay in their lane. The reason is because all of them are called "Alfa". For this reason they assume they know it all..

Empiree:
I used to read this book then in Yoruba language in the 90s to early 2000. The book kinda speaks about spirituality and interpretation of dreams and all that. But years later i realized it was not original work of Sheikh Adam (ra). It is the work of tab'in called Ibn Sirin but Sheikh Adam rewrote it in a way layman could understand and in plain text.

However, in recent years, at the emergence of alaqeeda people they started to condemn the book and condemned Sheikh Adam.. The book in itself is not about "ayewo" but it is like science of firasa, study of internal body organs. At the time I didn't really understand it fully. But I did remember making use of things there. I believe it is the in the book of Isatalaja it is discussed many things such as timing of intercourse (permissibility, makhruh, Haram and results of having intercourse at xyz times), certain days we avoid taking shower without using sponge and soap (Wednesday and Saturday) etc. I used to practice this.

Few years ago I noticed that this is not about Islam but general science that is not exclusive to Islam because, in the course of my field nursing I was assigned to client who's Russian. This was in 2008. His wife asked me to help him get in the shower becus his aide was coming late. So I helped him and tried to hand him sponge and soap. His wife said "no, we don't take shower with sponge on Wednesdays and Saturdays not even with soap". She's Orthodox Christian.

The book of Sheikh Adam signaled in my head that day. It was then I realized the practice is not exclusive to Islam. Usually practices like this have root in ancient Greek. Hence, it means prophets of old must have been endowed with this branch of knowledge those days and the practice somewhat survived till today.

Two years ago on Facebook, Sheikh Saheed Al-Mubaraq As-Salafi in defense of Sheikh Adam on Isatalaja that it was not originally written by Sheikh Adam but tab'in including "Qola Sheikh". But our over sabi alhusunnah today condemned the Sheikh despite telling them that Sheikh was not the original author. In that case they should condemn the tab'in but they refused to do that.

The book of Isatalaja is not about "ayewo". But alhusunnah alhusunnah think it about it.

LadunaI:
Subnallah! With this level of your scholarship, I surmise you might be in your early forties or above.

LadunaI:
Égbó "Sister" Movado19 is this true

Alhajiemeritus:
Hmm Thank you my brother.
I have read that the other names of Allah mentioned there that are not in Arabic are Suraiyah names, are there similar works that have elements of this strange language in them? or was Al buni the only person who authored this kind of work?
Recently I've been coming across different duhas that I've never come across in my life. Every single one making claim of being legit, we need to separate the chaff from the wheat.
Also brother Movado, what do you think about the magic squares present in the work? If we see something like this, does it call for us to throw out the whole book?

Empiree:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=adRmpI_lARM

Alhajiemeritus:
Has anybody heard of Jaljalut Duha.
Does it really attract jinns?
Also the book Shams Al-maarif, what's the authencitity? It seems adulterated, if I were to say my opinion on it.

Lekzytlekzydu:
All my Alfa told me he gave me a jinn prayer that call on jinn that he his a dangerous person...

Empiree:
Wooow, I like his conclusive wisdom here. You see, these Sufi people are well vast. They are the Islamic scientists then and now. I hope we can bring back this golden age even if it doesn't look like that of golden age. We still have Muslims around even in Yorubaland with these islamic sciences. But unfortunately there is powerful force that appears to suppress Islamic spirituality right there in Nigeria. The only thing they do is 'sheikh xyz said. this and that said'. They do not think and if you come up with different opinion, you get tagged mubtadi.

Video of Sheikh Adam went viral recently where he said "you are not scholar as long as you continue to say "sheikh lagbaja so pe, tafsir ibn xyz so pe". "Instead, why dont you come up with your research and come up with your own proofs?"

Empiree:
see the question that's interesting. When our past Ulama speaks we better listen. When sheikh Muhammad Mustafa Ashile (ra) talked about seven (7) Adam's before our Adam many thought he was insane. Some asked for scientific proof and Qur'an evidence. Here we go, Alfa Ahmed Shorinola gave us something trip ponder on.

Jazakallahu khayran for this link

Empiree:
In most cases we just read Quran mechanically without pondering on the Ayat until someone triggers our reasoning. We also tend to assume the many tafasir are 100% forgetting they were human beings and gave their best shot. We are not supposed to pull up where they stopped.. Rather we should continue with our research. As Sheikh Imran Hussein and Sheikh Hamza Yusuf once said, "Islam is to be understood with time". "Quran can not be translated". Am telling you we don't understand and can never understand Qur'an fully. When issue like this is raised, many tend to disagree and revile. As time goes we look back and return to Quran. This Sheikh Ahmed Shorinola's explanation makes it clearer to me than former shuyukh. Tafsir is not wahy but ijtihad.





this will have to be another research entirely but we may never know the fact. So basically, the idea that preexisting beings were Jinn is out of the way.