travelwaka:
It is also the perfect place for all kinds of ready made fabrics. just walk in and pick one and they are quite affordable. I once took a tourist here two Britons, you need to see the way they were rocking their African prints every where we went that day. Then I realised we don't even cherish what we have. They bought a lot of these stuffs for their families back home.

We really need to retrace our steps and embrace African products.

African women can make a killing in Black America selling tailored African clothing. You can charge Gucci prices to an African American and they will happily and proudly pay it.

codemaniacs:


black americans are beginning to keep their eyes on black people that are benefiting from the U.S and are not black americans.

this man can run for this position because he is seen as a person of colour and representing them but some black americans want to be seen as black americans and not P:O:C so that people like this man don't take such positions that are meant to go to black americans.

This is correct but doesn't tell the whole story. It's not necessarily that the position is meant for "black Americans" it's about using "black American" history and identity to secure these positions but not being in solidarity with "black Americans" As long as hes clear about who he is and what he represents then most black Americans won't make a fuss

As long as hes clear about being Nigerian its cool

Don't start quoting MLK and talking about Jim Crowe claiming you representing the " black community"

In America you will go to jail quicker for killing a dog than they would for killing a black man

Dogs are an extension of the oyinbo family tree

myles16:
Abegi!! all these African american ladies that doesn't have an atom of respect

so what were you expecting??

if it was Nigeria now, we could consider settling the matter but.....


lemme pass, no matter to settle here

All black people in America are not African American . That woman is not African American. She is a Caribbean woman.

She would be slapped to the ground and dragged by an African American mother if this happened down south

Officialgarri:
I stand with China on this. China and Russia are never intimidated by the so-called Big brother who wants to do anything and still get away with it.

I remember when Nigeria increased their Visa fee (or something in that manner) US retaliated immediately by increasing theirs too. Being a coward shithole, Nigeria reversed the increase but America being a bully, refused to reverse theirs.. Yet, nothing happened because they are the "big brother"


Oga, please lie small small o. Even Frank Lloyd Wright didn't design and build upto 1800 homes. And how can you say you built structures that can never crack? Not everyone on this forum is a dunce o

Everybody likes rooting 4 China against the US. China wil NEVER a Nigerian as an equal. You will NEVER be seen as a Chinese. You will NEVER own property in China.

If the Chinese can steal IP, steal viruses from US laboratories. What do u think they will do in Nigeria unchecked ?

China cheerleaders lack common sense

Ayemileto:


Shey ordinary people fit buy the bond?

Abi how will the thing function?

It's not meant for "ordinary" people to buy them.

Banks , institutions and accredited investors normally buy bonds

jojoseph:


Why do you think is not applicable everywhere? Here in U.S. most non degree holder makes more money than degree holder. Majority of Nigerians in U.S. do menial jobs with their degrees, such as washing dishes in a restaurants, driving taxis with PhD, and Ms. degrees.
The write-up is applicable all over the world.

First of all it's a lie that majority Nigerians do menial jobs with their degrees. You need to add more context to that statement.

1) Are the degrees they have from accredited universities ? There is also a heirachy in degrees in America.

2) What you majored in plays a huge role also. Some degrees/majors in America are basically useless while others are like All Access VIP tickets.

3) Has the person completely finished his schooling. It's common to see a person w/ a degree working in Starbucks. The reason is because they may be working towards their masters or PhD. They would rather take a part time job with flexibility so that they are able to spend more time on their studies.

4) The person may very well be lying. A lot of Nigerians in the US lie about their credentials. That taxi man or security guard could very well be lying about his degrees. I've seen a lot of people with fake degrees in the US. A lot of people honestly were tricked and didn't know and some thought they could trick the system.

That leads me into the problem with this post and why this isn't applicable in the US. The biggest problem is believing you that if you are offered an opportunity and can't do it then you should lie and take the job.

1 ) This only bleeps it up for not only other Nigerians but black Americans as well. I understand Nigerians don't understand the concept of being black because you weren't raised in America. The reality is MOST white people could care less if u are Nigerian, Jamaican or Black American in their eyes you are BLACK. So that will affect the next black person looking for an opportunity.

2 ) It will only make it harder for you in the long run. You will constantly have to relocate yourself or reinvent yourself. America is a small place as big as it may seem. You screw up one place and it will haunt you forever. Everything goes off of resumes and referrals and they have databases depending on your industry. Once your name comes up in the BBB as being sheisty or a liar then you will have to change your name if u want anymore opportunities.

3 ) it's not necessary to lie. If you are honest a lot of people will still hire you. You may not make as much but they'll put u in a position to learn what they want to know. Some people like training you from the ground up because you won't bring your bad habits to their business. It's an "you can't teach a dog new tricks mentality " but you can train a puppy to your liking.

A degree is not necessary to succeed necessarily but this is bullshit. I just finished my degree and i made more when i didn't have it at. I was making 80k fresh out of high school with no degree and doubled that over the years.

The problem is when that industry slowed down and i was tired of it I was stuck. I pigeonholed myself and had to go back to school.

A good degree offers you longevity and security.

This may suffice in Nigeria but this isn't applicable everywhere. This information is counterproductive and indicative of why some people are apprehensive about employing Nigerians/Africans

This may suffice in Nigeria but this isn't applicable everywhere. This information is counterproductive and indicative of why some people are apprehensive about employing Nigerians/Africans

stonemasonn:
how so?
A state that is constantly under threat from unknown kidnappers and bandits.

Kaduna has vast acres of fertile farmland. The weather also allows for year round crops

It's the equivalent of what America calls the "breadbasket " States like Nebraska that produce the crops that feeds America's.

mrvitalis:

Lol go to America make money and try to pull it out then see ....most of those companies like sony and many more are mostly owned by American shareholders

There are key areas of economy America would never allow outsiders own

With all the company in otta , how developed is it ? ...during the pandemic how many pallative did they share in otta ? .. rather they went back home ...it's simple economics

You sound ignorant my brother.

Sony is a Japanese company. The CEO is Japanese . Samsung a Korean company bought about 30% of the company at one time.

Many American companies are owned by foreign private equity firms

PROUDIGBO:


What i prefer is a level playing field! Do you really expect that, given a level playing field, that Kaduna would receive more FDIs than say a Lagos or Port Harcourt?

This is all what 'one Nigeria' is about.....using other peoples destiny to shine!

Lagos foreign investments are mainly centered around banking and consumer goods. I would assume Port Harcourt would be oil. Theres nothing attractive to foreign investors about either

Kaduna has been targeted as Nigeria's agricultural epicenter.

This has nothing to do with Buhari but everything to do with Adesina

NileValley:


It's funny,why don't you relocate in your country of origin?

I just told u Im from a poor country w/ a population of roughly 300k. I am not bound to one country but I will retire there when "mi belly full up"

JjBankys:
why did you call yourself that? do you even know the meaning?

I call myself it so you would know exactly who or what I am. Nigerians use the word so much in the US I just embrace it. Whatever it means doesnt bother me much because I am different. I am secure in who I am and any one who knows me or are around me , will respect me. So I find it makes others more uncomfortable to hear me say it from my mouth 4 whatever reason. I look at it as letting people know the cats out the bag. I understand and know where we stand and how we are perceived .

momoyama:


I understand your general point, but the Bahamas is a bad example. I never said you said you were from the Bahamas. I am from the Bahamas, though, and felt the need to correct the impression that it is somehow a country where the average person is not benefiting from the tourism sector.

I also agree with you that it is a very expensive country. But, although the minimum wage is only $5.50 an hour, very few people make that little and those that do are generally illegal immigrants (from Haiti, Jamaica etc.) the average wage is $14.00 an hour.

Because of its small population, tourism has done the Bahamas very well (it has the highest human development of any black country and - together with Barbados- is the only black country that is ranked by the UN as "very high human development). Bahamians can travel visa free o anywhere in Europe, North America, Japan, China etc. because of this, and inward immigration is massive.

Also, it is not only tourism but international shipping and financial services (banking) that dominate the economy.

I am not attacking your greater point, which has some validity. Am just pointing out that my country hardly fits the bill of your generalization.

Yeah it was a bad example because it has more going on. I was really speaking of Belize where my family is from . We dont have shit going on there . Financial Services as well but doesnt concern to average person because most the bankers are foreigners because most their customers are white .Our minimum wage is not even $2 and to find work u must go work in the tourist section . Which are primarily located on the islands (Ambergis or Caye Caulker) isolated from the general population . Not to mention when the big resorts go up a majority of the time they bring their own workers with them . So the only jobs we would be able to get are the lowest grunt work if any

I spent a lot of time in the Bahamas in the 90's early 2k and like I say never stayed in a hotel . I was born and raised in Miami so my whole childhood was w/ Jamaicans and Bahamians . So Ive been around to say the least . My history of Bahamas goes b4 the Haitians were what they r now . Jamaicans were the ones at the bottom( and top) of the Bahamas(no disrespect). My Bahamian friends were mostly Jamaicans and Newbolds but I got see EVERYTHING when it came to the Bahamas. I never experienced the Bahamas through the eyes of a tourist.

Respect bredda

momoyama:


You are lost. Minimum wage in the Bahamas is $10 a day? Try $5.50 an hour. Where do you get your information, exactly? Obviously not by direct experience or travel. Inside the resorts AND outside the resorts we use US dollars, which trade 1 to 1 with Bahamian dollars. You accuse Americans of being ignorant and unexposed, but you seem so yourself.

Did I say I was from the Bahamas ?? I never specified which Caribbean country I was from . The Minimum wage is 1.60 where Im from. I just mentioned Bahamas as an alternative suggestion to countries w/ tourism. From the outside it looks good but the average Bahamian is not living in those areas and only the ones who are in those areas benefit from it. Ive been to the Bahamas over 5 x's and never stayed in a hotel . Ive walked the streets of New Providence my self . Ive stayed "over the hill" and I can tell you it is not a depiction of what u see on brochures.

Bahamas tourism can not compare to the tourism where Im from. It is a bad comparison but none the less represents what I see on a larger scale. income inequality in these tourist destinations do not compare . $5 minimum wage doesnt mean shit when everything is priced like you are Miami

[quote author=Mobilia post=74490726]

Oh...well that's unfortunate that you agree with your Nigerian brother about "me"...lol.
But yes, you are right....men and women are wired differently. Isn't that a lovely difference?
But the brother on the thread was in support of you relocating there; he was just giving you "tips" on how to navigate through Lagos or Abuja.

So you are a Caribbean American...very cool.
So both of your parents are from the Caribbean...but you were born and bred in the U.S.
I have never heard of Garifuna people...but that's quite interesting. If you are from New York, there is a huge West Indian population there...if I'm not mistaken.


I'm truly African American. My mom was Black American and my dad's Igbo.
I've always had some difficulty cause growing up the black folks called me an "African bootie-scratcher"
Then the very few Africans (including western and eastern Africans) I encountered where I lived, didn't think I was "African" enough due to my mom.
So it's been a challenge...
I've practically only identified as a Black American...although my name is fully Nigerian.

Perhaps that's why I'm so keen on visiting my other half and immersing myself in the culture that I really don't know too much about.

I laugh about the "akata" word too.
At first, I was offended...but later I actually started liking the word and thought it was cute.
Lots of black foreigners have lots to say about Black Americans... (some of which is founded...some of which is not).
I can't even imagine what islanders call Black Americans..lol.

I just laughed reading the guy on this thread who allegedly didn't know what "akata" meant..lol.
I find that extremely hard to believe....lol. But so he says...
One of my dad's friends (who is from Edo state) was visiting 1 weekend about 5 months ago and he started speaking about an "akata this and akata that"...
Then he looked at me (although I'm also Nigerian) and said, "Oops I'm sorry."
I just laughed and said that it was no problem.
Now he himself is married to an "Oyibo/Oyinbo" ( another word(s) I learned here on N.L.), and his kids will probably be called "akatas" AND "oyibos"...but he couldn't help himself using the word.
I had found out (about 2 years ago..the time i had asked my das about "akata" that he absolutely knows the word and definition.
But see, I was clueless because he has never in my entire life used it in our household.

So see I have actual aunts, uncles, tons of cousins (some of whom I've spoken to on the phone) etc. that I'd like to meet. I would never come to Nigeria to take some pics to post on Instagram to connect with my "roots" briefly. I don't even do social media...other than N.L.
It's not a photo-op. It's my real life..real tangible roots...real blood.
But I do believe tourism should be for all people. Why not have blacks come and enjoy tge beauty of the island (food, shopping, amusements etc)...you know the "clean stuff" which could pump money into the economy? Every little bit helps right?

I know Nigeria is a huge market place....so do lots and lots of other folks. I'm first interested in the people..then the culture...then other things can fall inti place.
But neither I nor the other guy was trying to discourage you from going there to Nigeria to make an economic impact nor were we trying to "come for you", as was stated.
I wish you the best...



I really wish Africans would stop spreading this false narrative of Black Americans calling Africans "African Booty Scratchers" That is so childish and completely blown out of proportion. That phrase is almost 30 years old and was not created to disrespect Africans. That was a phrase from a movie BOYZ N DA HOOD used between two Black Americans to disrespect each other. Black Americans called each other that as children in elementary school. No adults or even teenagers used that phrase loosely to address Africans in particulars. Honestly most Black Americans never even met an African in America. I feel that narrative of Americans using that term adds to the division and tension between Africans and African Americans because Africans will come to America believing this is some common term used to refer to them , when it is by no way common. I doubt the average Black American under 35 have ever heard it or know where it comes from.

The only reason u feel so optimistic of tourism is because you are an idealistic America. You have the mindset that Americans waltzing into a coming spending their few dollars is a godsend to the people of that country when it isnt. 90 % of all of that money is owned and controlled by white foreigners and the top 10% and that is who it benefits. You dont know what its like to be a foreigner in your own country . Most of the tourist areas are off limits to locals either due to being over priced or blatantly restricted . Just because u see some old lady selling trinkets or working in a restaurant does not mean it benefits the local population. It doesnt because all the resources are directed towards maintaining those are and making sure the tourist are appeased . Those tourist areas price everything basically in USD but pays the workers local minimum wage ($10 day) I can tell u have never traveled and if u have never had any connection to whats going on w/ the locals. This is the same throughout MOST of the Caribbean. Bahamas and Jamaica same way once you leave the resorts. Then they blame us of being drug traffickers and whores. YES , according to most tourist they see our women in these tourist spots of ALL being whores.

Like I say sister we see the world through different lenses through different life experiences. I see u as being sheltered and never actually being outside of that American bubble. I say that with respect because it is common w/ our people. The level of propaganda fed to us in the US is sickening once u open your eyes. The worst part is that we are complicit in the promotion of this propaganda and negative stereotypes.

I just advise you to travel period . There is no better time that now , do not continue procrastinating and your world views will change.

[quote author=BraniacX post=74430306]
And what was Trump's stand on those attacks? He called them out didn't he? As any good president should! Now compare that to his response on other attacks, his interpretation of the Charlottesville riots, his attack on Collins kaerpenick, his response to every other black person with a platform calling out his BS and bias, his belated response when a black unarmed man took down a white mass shooter, his silence on every other headline on police's all too common brutality and use of deadly force against unarmed black people! This for a tweetsy very opinionated president! Do you get the picture now?[/quote


I see you get your opinions straight from liberal news channels and social media. Everything u just named is all propaganda.

Charlottesville = A white woman being killed which had nothing to do w/ black people

Colin Kaepernick = A failing quaterback who was not starting who had became a distraction. He was not some star football player discriminated against.

His response to EVERY person criticizing him is the same. He does not discriminate on who he attacks . White people get attacked more than blacks from Trump.

Black men been getting killed by Police way before Nigeria gained their independence. Obama actually passed laws to make it harder to prosecute police involved in shootings.

Nothing you said is of any substance but regurgitated liberal talking points.

Please Nigerians do not find yourself caught up in the liberal propaganda. It serves u no benefit . Trust and believe Democrats do not have you in mind with these immigration debates . It would better serve u to support the Wall in actuality . The effort u must take to immigrate to America knowing these people simply walk across as if they own the place only makes your situation worse and harder.

dkizzy01:
THEY ARE SEVERAL PROGRAMMING LANGUAGES, WHICH CAN YOU ADVISE I START WITH, ALSO WHICH CAN I LEARN AND GET JOBS EASILY

If u are just starting I would advise u to learn python . I may be bias and others may have a difference of opinions, I suggest python because it can be used in both networking and programming . It is used in alot of automation and it is pretty simple to learn . My best advise it to just start anything . Once u start learning you will find different areas of interest and choose something else. So just begin and get a foundation. CODE ACADEMY is a good start. It is free to sign up and gives u a good foundation.

thebosstrevor:


i think you need to read his write up he said he is coming to understand the country first.

so what is wrong for a black man to come to Nigeria for purely economical reasons? there are people doing it but they are low key.

Thank u brotha

Its crazy how they totally neglect the fact I said I was open to attending a University. What better way could u learn about a country and culture than by attending a University ? Its a common theme among OUR people I have noticed. When I say our people I mean black people. As much as we may deny the fact black people share common traits regardless of on the continent or in the diaspora. There is a huge distrust among each other. A black man seeking to open businesses or make money will never be welcomed or treated w/ the same respect as a white man. Where the white man is welcomed with smiles and enthusiasm a black man will be frowned at and looked at suspiciously. Whether tribalism or gang banging we will put it aside when the white man comes . I watched Ghanaians while I was there kiss white people ass at the slave forts and knew I could never live there. No disrespect but I could not live in a country who caters to tourism and exploits the history of oppression and the slave trade. When a white man visits a slave port they dont see what I see. They see remnants of a glorious part of their glorious history when the white man was supreme. Then these same dumb idiots run to kiss their ass voluntarily subjugating themselves. If it was left up to I would blow the whole thing up while a group of German tourist walked the dungeons .

We have real issues as a people we must overcome if we are to move forward. Which is why I say I would not involve myself or really participate in any tribal affairs or try to "learn" which tribe I come from. I see black people as ONE . If u black u black thats all I care about . once u involve yourself then Yorubas , will tell u how bad the Igbos are. The Igbos will tell u dont deal w/ Hausa . I dont have time 4 none of that

Respect 2 u

Mobilia:


Oh boy..
I just knew that there was absolutely "0" way that I could have a decent, informative, "angry-less", no tirade conversation.
Why are you so "pissed off"?
Unless you are the author of this thread, then your anger is ill-founded.
Try channeling that "pissed-off"-ness into something positive so that your blood pressure won't get so high.
You absolutely 1000 percent did not understand any of the conversation...clearly by your reply to me.

I, for 2 years, have been getting to know how your country operates (vicariously through N.L).
I have seen and read it all.
I don't need to judge Nigeria.
Its citizens do that for me.
Perhaps you should read through my 900 plus posts..to see how I've tried to be very impartial about many topics.
If I believed all Nigerians behave like the ones on this site, I would never ever want to visit.
But in spite OF...I still will visit.
Now let me ask you: do you know me personally?
Do you know my dad personally?
Have you listened in or been present at any conversation I've ever had with him pertaining to Nigeria?
If so, then you have a right to say he's spoken in a negative manner about his birth country...
If not, (which I know is the answer) then you should respectfully close your mouth boss.
Just so you know: he has a right IF/WHEN he wants.. to speak about his birth country to his child IF/WHEN he chooses...
Now on the use of the word "akata"...
What you have said is a lie from the deep pit of hell.
I learned about the word right here on this site...and actually having spoken by phone to a Nigerian nairalander (in Nigeria) who told me everything about the word.
I have seen that word so many times RIGHT HERE on N.L. that I can't count.
I saw the word in several sections....
It was not coming just from Nigerians in the diaspora either. Plenty of Nigerians (on the shores of Nigeria) use it freely and in a derogative manner.
So yes sir...Mr. Boss...Nigerians (home and abroad) are extremely familiar with the word

As far as pan-Africanism and China and whatever else you were fussing about, ok.
Believe and label me as you wish.
I was just saying to have some humanity and respect when travelling to other folks' country....
I do not discuss politics with anyone...be it America or Nigeria. It is too sensitive a topic...so you bringing up China...well congrats.
I have no problem with my Akata brother coming to Nigeria to do his business...and I made that known.
I will be visiting also...
I was confused about some things and therefore asked HIM.
Your problem is that you had an issue with nothing...other than you wanted an argument....
You interpreted my words the way you wanted to...so you could "light" into me.
Ok...hope you feel better Boss brother...
No hard feelings...
Blessings to you too

I am sorry sister but I must agree with him about you. You whole argument was an " emotional " one rooted in Pan African ideals. I am so critical of "Pan Africanism" because it is something which is deeply rooted in my culture . I grew up surrounded by Pan Africans and come from a country with deep African roots. I am not Jamaican but of Caribbean descent and I come from Garifuna parents. If you have never heard of the Garifuna's we still to this day have our language which originated from West Africa . We were the slaves who broke away and have scattered through Central America and neighboring islands. I personally don't speak the language but some of my family does and 4 the most part it is a dying language and culture. This has shaped my country along w/ Reggae so Pan Africanism is nothing new to me . I grew up eating casava every thing. Casava Bread, Casava pudding Casava leaves before i ever stepped foot in Africa . We even eat a Fufu type dish made w/ plantains instead of casava. (HUDUT)

My experiences in America where I was born and raised was surrounded by West Indian immigrants. Primarily Jamaicans and Haitians who a large portion of which were Rastafarians . I have been studying with and surrounded by "Pan Africans" since the 90s , this is nothing new , but rather a resurgence for African Americans. Hailie Selassie put aside land in Ethiopia for "Pan Africans and Rastas" in the 1950's. That land has yet to be developed and no one is interested in actually getting off their ass and going. Instead they sit around EVERY GOD DAMN DAY talking about colonizers and Africa. It got tiring 4 me and I quickly became disillusioned .

Even with that being said I still understand you sister and do not look down on you. As a woman you will view the world different from me as a man. Women are more idealistic and emotional where a man "should" be practical and rational . This is why certain things don't bother me and I dont concern myself with other things. As a woman you are a looking 4 love and acceptance. As a man I am solely concerned w/ respect and building something 4 myself and children. Women have the luxury of optimism and believing they will meet some African prince and be treated like a Queen.
While I am burdened w/ the responsibility of facilitating these dreams and aspiration.

As far as the word AKATA I dont take offense to it..It is just a word , and does not effect me . I have never been oppressed and discriminated against by Nigerians. So u can not give the word the same connotation as NIGG@.There is no historic context of the word being used to subjugate me or my people , To me it is a joke . I find it actually funny to be honest. The reason being is because we got a word 4 Black Americans also. Its a word I grew up being called. Every culture has a word they use to address foreigners ,not just black americans and its not always in a positive connotation (nor negative) I am from a poor country known for tourism, drug trafficking and money laundering. There are NO economic opportunities for locals nor foreigners for that matter. So whenever I return the 1st thing my family and friends ask is " yo wich pat de food ?" Meaning where the money at . After the hugs and kisses everybody expecting and looking 4 you to be coming back with a plan to make money . This is the type of culture I was raised in. So I know what being poor and surrounded by people stuck in a situation and they look to you to offer something. I am not implying all Nigerians are poor and living in poverty but I also know that the minority in America wearing designer clothes and bragging about driving Mercedes dont represent the country as a whole. Where I am from that mindset does not fly. I mean no disrespect but u would be robbed kidnapped and killed if u come back only to show off.

So yea sister we just come from 2 different thought processes and understandings of the world. I view tourist and the like as colonizers personally. Tourism is the only industry my country has and I watch as EVERYBODY black and white come to enjoy the beaches and eat cheap food and Bleep our women. How does that benefit a country ? Maybe I bring my own mental baggage but I feel tourism is 4 white people. If a black man/woman is planning to return to Africa w/o any type economical ambitions you are a waste of space. Just so u can come take pictures and post on instagram in some village to stroke your own ego and act as if u "connected to your root " Especially a country w/ the market size Nigeria has. I dont know of any other BLACK country with those opportunities which is not already completely controlled and ran by white and Indian people.

Open your mind sister ,
Love is Love

dkizzy01:
I DONT HAVE ANY IN MIND THAT WHY AM ASKING FOR HELP. NOT JUST TO LEARN BUT ALSO TO MAKE MONEY WITH THE SKILLS AS WELL

There are too many completely different routes to "not have any in mind " Research the different skill sets and then you can from there. For the most part Networking and Programming are the two categories which u should look into and you can narrow it down from there

dkizzy01:
GOOD DAY FRIENDS AND FAMILIES HERE

PLEASE HELP A BROTHER TECH SKILL TO ACQUIRE IN 2019!!! TIRED OF 9-6 JOBS

I WONT MIND REFERALS AND PERSONAL COACHING AS WELL.

What skills are you trying to learn ??

U should be more specific if u want help

Mobilia:


Well....I want to say so much. My apologies...I didn't think you were an akata the further along I read.
But so you say...so I'm sorry.
Let me just say this: when I was saying other racial groups would go to Nigeria and have no true interest in the country but rather just pillage from it, that was what I was saying I was hoping you were not doing.
By you saying that you don't care about anything in the country BUT money, that was what I was saying was ignorant.
You saw 1 YouTube akata and made a generalization about "several" akatas.
I am a Black American/Nigerian...
I hold white, black, purple and green people all in high esteem...simply because they are "humans".
Just so you know: Although they are all under the umbrella of Nigeria...they are NOT all the same people. They have many different tribal groups, many languages and practice different religions...which affects how their country is governed.
I'm not sure that it's as easy as saying..."All I want to do is business here in this country." "Leave all that other stuff out of it."
Also, I would never want you to pretend to be someone you are not....but news flash: I bet some of your ancestry dates back to Nigeria. Black Carribeans share similar "dna" with west Africans.
Sir, I was asking you these questions cause some of what you said was confusing.
I knew you would get hostile, but it's okay.
Wasn't my intention to get you so angry.

Thanks for clarifying "some" of my questions.
All the best for your travels there. Perhaps you may decide to stay permanently.

Now I understand u though , U are African American . You have adopted the same talking points of these African Americans in America.
That whole colonizer and oppressor talk is why I dont watch MOST black american Youtubers. It is tiring and counterproductive. One reason I favor Nigerians is because most I know do not entertain that mindset . Most Nigerians I know in America are all about productivity and trying to make money . You seem to have that "pan african " mindset I try to avoid. I embrace the ideals of pan Africanism but most American Pan Africans I came across are not into progression and productivity but talking . I have known "Pan Africans" since the 80's and those same people have not "moved a stone" in Africa.

Respect to you brother and do not be so critical of people who look like you . We tend to be extra critical of people who look like us , which is discouraging and why some choose to do nothing.

Bless

Abbeybailey:
I see you are a Rookie here, you can go queue up behind the other pig lovers since you don't know Jack about the Fruited Plains. A racist that only gets 8% of African Americans votes is beloved by African Americans. Why don't you make him a King for life so no one can voice any opposition against the Emperor.

Most rational blacks DONT bother voting. The majority who are so consumed w/ politics are just interested in identity politics. All they know about politics is the same thing u know. Democrats = good and Republican = racist. Thats as far as their political involvement goes. A lot o blacks now are realizing that its a big game the media is playing on us. They have yet to show an example of him being racist but continue to pound this shit into our minds all day.I am old enough to have watched and known DT my WHOLE life. I remember DT support Mike Tyson when no one else would. I remember him being cool w/ rappers and the ONLY white man any black kid wanted to be when they grew up. Im not going to erase that because some other WHITE MAN/WOMAN tells me too. White people only " expose " racism when it benefits them and to manipulate blacks. They dont expose their racist ass grandfathers and uncles

Mobilia:


I have to comment on this post...lol.
It is seriously hilarious..lol.
So much to say here..where to begin?
"Mr. Akata"?...lol.
I gain more and more enjoyment off of that word...and that's from one fellow "half-akata" to a "full" one
I actually love using the word! I learned it from this site and have been using it ever since.
Anyhow, just a few questions for you...if you don't mind.
So you are a Black American looking to temporarily relocate to Nigeria strictly for financial reasons...?
You are not interested in the culture...just purely economical? Really?
Why Nigeria..if I may ask?
Do you plan on taking some oil and running out of the country

You also asked if, "Nigerian degrees are accepted in America?"
But I thought you are an "akata" relocating from America to Nigeria? So the question would be are American degrees accepted in Nigeria? Correct?
Or are you planning to relocate to Nigeria, enroll in a university there, and then relocate back to America with that Nigerian degree?? That would not make sense to me though.
You also said that you found the "akata" Youtubers to be jokes basically...lol. How many have you viewed? What were they talking about? Was it in regards to relocating to or visiting Nigeria?
Umm....alrighty then.
Honestly (and I could be wrong), BUT you don't sound like an "akata" at all.
No person of the Black American race (and please re-read those 3 former words) would relocate to an unfamiliar country and just jump in "head-first" purely for economic reasons and disregard the culture.....
Perhaps other races would....due to power and strong economic means.
You neither disregard nor disrespect an unfamiliar country....when visiting. How could you ignore the way in which a country functions (government, culture, religion etc)?
It wouldn't hurt you to wear some clothing or visit a particular service her and there I guess.
If they aren't trying to religiously convert you, force you to join a particular political party or join their particular tribe, then what's the problem?
I get the part of not wanting to get involved in tribalism and politics..but seems to me that you would need to know the background of a country...such as to why so much tribalism and religious separation exists and how you (as a business person) could maneuver around that. I don't see how you could ignore or avoid that.
Perhaps I'm missing something? Please help me out here.

Anyhow, it just seems questionable that an alleged "akata" would be subtlety throwing "digs" at his own...and on a foreign website.
That's embarrassing and makes you look ignorant (with all due respect).
Yes..."akatas" have their faults (as do all racial and ethnic groups), but that's not enough reason to trash them.
I could be totally wrong though and would be totally willing to render a sincere apology if I am proven wrong.
Sorry so lengthy...

Wow , its so much in this post and I dont know where to start. The fact you generalize Black Americans in one narrow minded sense is what really pisses me of. You assume I am " throwing digs " which makes me look ignorant , is your opinion. The fact is it is not digs , its my opinion and my experiences. I am not throwing digs at ALL my people just that small MINORITY who in my opinion are naive and lost fools (not all) Me moving to Africa thinking EVERYBODY is my long lost brother and we will drink palm wine and I will some how be reconnected w/ my "Roots" is laughable. It would be the same as a Nigerian moving to Atlanta or Harlem believing they will automatically be accepted and their life will be like a rap video. NO , they would get ROBBED being naive.

I have an Associate already from the past . I was just exploring the idea of going to a University to continue my BA while I was there. Since I dont know anybody I figured a University would be the ideal place to build a social network. I dont intend on just walking the streets approaching random people. There arent many Youtubers in Nigeria except some guy named Uhuru . I find his content PERSONALLY a waste of time. He travels to each African country and pretends to be from a different tribe each time. One time he was a Muslim in Senegal then he's in some village in Nigeria participating in voodoo rituals. That is DEFINITELY not what I intend to be doing.

The fact that u believe only other races are capable of relocating for economical reasons I find disrespectul . If White Americans and Indians can relocate 4 economical reasons , why cant black americans ?? I know the media and youtube only represent Black Americans as being some type of oppressed and incapable group begging 4 acceptance but we are not. At least not ALL of us. I have been traveling since I was a child and have ties to other countries because as I mentioned I am of Caribbean descent but was born in the states. So maybe I am of the minorities of blacks who have traveled outside of America and dont believe the hype o America being the "end all , be all" greatest place on earth.

U strike me as very ignorant "Do you plan on taking some oil and running out of the country" I dont believe u are Nigerian by saying some stupid shit like that. U sound more like a British or American NIgerian who thinks like a white man who u hold in high esteem. NIgeria has one of the biggest economies in the world and the biggest market in Africa . So why wouldnt a Black American see it as an opportunity and consider relocating there ?? I have a skill set and a strong network in America so I just want to see would I be able transfer them to Nigeria and make money. Even something as simple as selling barbecue ( example , i dont cook ) I am into IT now but I've done construction and can operate almost any heavy duty equipment. I have friends who fix and sell tractors and other equipment. I have access to auction license in America and have bought and sold cars so my intentions have nothing to do w/ oil.

As far as culture and politics , I stand on my response. I have no problem learning and understanding other peoples cultures but Nigeria is too confusing to me. I do not SEE the difference between a Yoruba , Igbo or Hausa I see them all the same. I do not want to be involved in the cultural differences between each group . That is for you people to dwell on , and I respect it , I just dont want to be involved in it. Whatever culture I encounter I will look it at all the same and just do not want to be bombarded and consumed w/ the nuances of them. I respect everybody and respect all cultures , If I went to China I would not try to be a Buddhist . So I wont go to Nigeria and pretend to be Yoruba , that is what I mean , if it makes sense to u. As far as politics is concerned Im burnt out on American politics so y would I burden myself w/ Nigerian politics ? I would allow whoever I befriend to make all political decisions on my behalf. If it doesn't involve paying off some local politician to do my biddings I have no interest in who is in power. ( I feel the same about America)

Respect

thebosstrevor:
I dont believe in pan african.

Straight to the point.

Nigeria is full of opportunities. Nigeria degree is not recognise in the US.
Your programming cert will help. Many top programmers in nigeria are self taught. If you are expert you might teach wannabes for cash

are you a junior or senior developer? We dont have many senior developer in Nigeria. Look up for andela and you apply for programing jobs there. They pay local rate.

Gather a list of startups in nigeria with good funding and start applying.

Lagos is the king and the market so you will have to live and work there

have enough money saved for survival.

Nobody will know you are american except when you speak

I appreciate your reply and I would consider myself a junior dev but have the capabilities of a mid level - upper network engineer. I prefer working on networks and just recently have been delving into Web Development. I never thought o it but I believe that joining a start up would be good idea. I am not interested in NIgeria wages 4 the most part. Any work I take on would be probably be more voluntary based . I don't intend to come travel this far to find a job . The idea of teaching locals is also something I can definitly do. I have many books and old routers which I use when taking my CCNP which I could set up and let them lab with. I also have friends in the states who have more formal training than me who could also.

I have a substantial savings and I also have the ability to work remote so money wont be an issue. When looking for housing , I heard that foreigners should be ready to pay 1 year rent upront. Is this standard on most properties ?

Thank u

LordReed:


Its a Republican talking point that Democrats want illegal immigration or open borders even though they can never bring out a single example of any Democrat advocating such a thing. Wanting legal immigration and grants to asylum seekers doesn't equate to wanting open borders but I am sure I am preaching to the choir.

Are u delusional Kamala Harris has said she does not believe in borders. She's supports sanctuary cities and almost every other Democratic hopeful is opposed to cracking down on immigration and choose to down play it.

Abbeybailey:
We knew that and like I said here before, he's the biggest scam artist in the history of the Fruited Plains even worse than Bernie Maddoff of $50 billion fame. January 3rd will be the beginning of the end for his con game when the New Sheriff ( Speaker Pelosi ) is sworn in. The good thing is that many Americans are catching up to the Queens Born two bit street hustler.

I never though Nigerians would be so invested in American political propaganda as they are here .

Abbeybailey:
Tell me why. Most of the Democrats running will clean the slate of Trump. Americans are tired of trump's bigotry, racism, lies and misogyny , hence is approval level is low not to talk about the impeding recession due to his stupid tariffs.

Most Americans are not tired of Trump. The ones who are , are the ill informed cry babies. The media is so corrupted it leads u to believe Trump is racist and unpopular. Reality is a lot o blacks LOVE Trump and all Trump supporters arent racist. Trumps ratings were low when he was elected but he still won. He will win again in 2020 because Democrats are too stupid to do their job. Instead they cry and wine like babies

As the title suggest I am an Akata. I intend to relocate temporarily for various reasons. I basically would like to explore different opportunities and build a network in Nigeria. I have a background in IT and was considering enrolling in an University to further my studies and build a social network. I was wondering are Nigerian degrees recognized in America or would it be a waste of time ? I have a decent knowledge of IT and programming mostly self taught and certs. I am not too considered w/ school but rather the network it would provide.

I also have done some limited research and was torn between Lagos and Abuja. I am wondering which area would better suit my interest. I understand Abuja is more affluent but Lagos is a commercial hub with a lot going on. Im not timid or scared , I've lived in NY in rough parts so high density areas of black people do not intimidate me ( Im no tough guy ,either). What I am not interested in are any forms of "pan africanism" or any village experiences and wearing dashiki's ( no disrespect ) I just find those type of endeavors a waste of time and laughable. I've been to Ghana and did not enjoy it because of that reason . Too much emphasis on " cultural " shit , I respect African culture and can appreciate it , but it is yours . I do not seek to be something I am not. Too much tribalism and other political bullshit only confuses me and Im too old 4 that shit. My ONLY purpose in being in Nigeria is purely economical . I don't have time to waste on endeveours which will add no value to my life or the people i come in contact with.

I would greatly appreciate any feedback which I could take into consideration b4 making my move. I intend to travel there by March for 2 weeks just to touch the ground 1st b4 I make a decision. I tried searching YouTube but all of the Akata youtubers seem to be naive clowns to me so I take their opinions w/ "a grain of salt" as far as NIgeira.

I dont mean to come off disrespectful because I hold Nigerians in high esteem its just rather the narrative of the returning Akata which I hold in disdain. I don't want to be confused w/ some lost puppy looking to return and find his long lost culture and heritage. I have a culture and background o my own ( carribbean descent) so I can appreciate yours as I hold onto mines.

Blessing 2 u Brothers