₦airaland Forum

OnlineGhost:
How pitiable, with all the power rustle and tussle, treasury looting and heartless display of eletorate conscienceless-ness, it's amazing how these same politicians strow their way through the minds of Nigerians.
To be civilized, you don't have to be educated!

Our political system is in high state of decadence

Plain Truth. Preach Brother!

tuniski:
Atiku will trash buhari. Or you mean nigerians are all zombies?

Not All Nigerians but Majority of Nigerians my friend.. Majority.

chukzyfcbb:
stop dancing up and down.

You mentioned UCL, I dropped a pic talking about the goals:game ratio in UCL.

You mentioned LA liga. and I dropped a pic where they have faced each other.

Now you want to divert to first LA liga 300goals.
even Suarez post a better record than Ronaldo in LA liga first 100 goals in terms of goal:game ratio, be humble!

Ronaldo is very good but Messi is King
#The king that can stop Madrid's hope at UCL

Your king trying to Imitate the REAL KING - Injury Straight!

Shut your Trap

Jeferious:
[s]Ronaldo is a super player, I admit that. He's hardworking too. Agreed. But I don't understand the hype about his hardworking part. Does he cover more distance than the other 21 players on the field during a match?

Ronaldo is not as hardworking as the media puts it. In reality, he's a very economical player, and he's shining on the strength of others. Otherwise, justify why a player, who is supposed to be at the wings providing crosses and passes for the team's ultimate striker, would always lurking in the opponent's penalty box. Or is he, and not Benezema, now Madrid's top 9?

If you can answer the above question without sentiments, you'd definitely want to take something away from the praises you shower on CR7. Marcelo and Carvajal are the real hard workers. They attack, they defend. They bear a very large chunk of providing attacking opportunities for Madrid, and they are also responsible for making sure that opponent's wingers don't do much damage from the flanks. If you really mean to shower praises, give them their due- lion share for that matter.

I don't even want to talk about Modric and Casemiro: it takes more than being a good midfielder to shut out Dybala. Of course you would ignore Varane and Ramos, because to mark Higuain is a very easy task(rolls eyes).

In conclusion, Ronaldo is not as hardworking as he is hyped. He's more economical with his strengths than you are being told. And he may be the club's highest goalscorer, but not their best player. And that acrobatic goal is not more 'Puskas' than Eriksen's and Ibrahimovic's long range efforts last week for Tottenham and LA Galaxy respectively.

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All hail the King

Shugavee:
my answer is NO!!! Pysically they both hv the area where they dominate!! A man can carry 10 bag of rice but can a man carry a man in his stomach No they ain't pysically made that way!!!

Okay, I'm done With this Argument. This is just what i wanted to hear to end this because i can definitely now tell you're a kid totally devoid of reality, Living in a fantasy Land. You can't even look around you and RATIONALLY Observe what you see Lol. Maybe someday when you're mature enough, Your sentimentality will evaporate like the wind and Reality will hit you like a Hard Rock. Have a nice day.

Ladyhippolyta88:
On a average yes I could fairly say on my own statistics and ratio it could be 80%male and 20% female in terms of physical strength.

Okay, with that being said we can agree that thats a fact we can't take away. What we can do then is to work out a plan on that basis to make sure that That does not imply anything significant or serve as a disadvantage to the weaker gender. We have to make sure nobody is abused in the Society because they are Females and that can be done by ensurimg very strict punishment for whoever defaults this. That is what i believe can be done.

But when we try to be sentimental and Purposely Blind to the truth, Then all you get is Unnecessary Ranting and moving in Circles because it just won't Work!

Shugavee:
now here is where u get it wrong!!! when we say women r smart
Men: r u trying to say women r smarter than men??
We want equality!! I understand the pysical difference but both gender work together for a productive society!! We cant do witout each other!!!! No gender is superior!!

Answer this question with a simple yes or no. On the Average, Are males Naturally "Physically" Stronger than females?

I think Women need to understand that A man being stronger than a woman is not the Issue, Far from it. That is the fact and can never be changed. However, the important thing is Ensuring No one is Abused or Taken Advantage of because of their Gender. You can Never Fight a Gender war and win.. However, We can try to make the world a better place for Every gender.

Real feminism in my Opinion is To be Championed by Rational People, And Not Sentimental People. Unfortunately Feminism appeals more to Females based on Sentiments other than Logic and this is Has to change Fast Or risk Turning the movement into a joke!

Ladyhippolyta88:
Nigeria is finished

Lol

Shugavee:
am sorry too but that's not true!! What do u mean by strength Can a man carry a child 4 9months n give birth with serious pains!!!
Mentally really where is it scientifically proven that a man is mentally stronger than a woman, try taking care of kids n give them good upbringing n let's see how mentally strong u are!!! Try facing so much oppression n still stand strong enough to fight back, let's see how u would pull through!!! Mentally women r the greatest!!! Due to the efforts of feminism, almost all women r going to school n making exploit even more than men!!


SPEAK AFTER PASSING THROUGH ALL THE HARDSHIP WOMEN HV GONE TRU!! BECAUSE U MEN FEEL U HV THE PRIVILLAGE TO DEGRADE WOMEN DUE TO PIATRIACHY DOES NOT ILLTRATE U GUYS R RIGHT!!! IT'S ALL SENTIMENTAL N MYTHS

You're the one who has to Stop being Sentimental. Are you trying to say Women are Naturally Stronger than men? A simple yes or No will do. This is why i hardly engage in debates with women.. Always sentimental even when the truth is glaring at them in the Face. Smh

Ladyhippolyta88:
You made sense here mysty this reminds me of the early quakers and shakers one of the first advocates for equality.

Ohh i see.. Nice to know i could remind u of that

CAPSLOCKED:

MANY WOMEN HAVE EQUALLY MISUSED THIS TERM "EQUALITY".

THEY BLAME MEN FOR THE MISTAKES THEY MAKE THEMSELVES AND THINK FEMINISM IS ALL ABOUT HATING AND RIDICULING MEN EVERYWHERE.


MEN AND WOMEN CAN NEVER BE EQUAL IN THIS SOCIETY. THEY CANNOT TAKE UP THE SAME JOBS.

YOU CANNOT WIN A WAR WITH ALL THE TROOPS BEING FEMALES.
YOU CANNOT COMPLETE AN ENGINEERING OR TECHNOLOGICAL TASK WITH THE TECHNICIANS BEING WOMEN ALL THROUGH.
YOU CAN'T HAVE WOMEN MOULDING BLOCKS AND LIFTING HEADPANS AT BUILDING SITES.

YOU CAN'T HAVE BARCELONA MALE TEAM PLAY AGAINST ARSENAL LADIES.

ONE SIDE IS ALWAYS SUPERIOR, NATURALLY. YOU WILL ALSO FIND THIS IN MOST ANIMALS AND ALSO FISHES.


WHAT WE SHOULD FOCUS ON IS EQUAL TREATMENT, OPPORTUNITIES AND RESPECT.
BUT THE WHOLE ATTENTION HAS LONG BEEN DIVERTED INTO STUPID BIASED OPINIONS AND AGENDAS OF IMMATURED WOMEN ON FACEBOOK AND TWITTER.

This can never be over emphasized. I Already came to this Conclusion A million Years ago After a Long time of Meditation and RATIONALIZATION and i can't Explain it Enough. However, i still believe Women need to be Given all the opportunities, Respect and Rights that they deserve, Just like every other Human on Earth but The fact that Both Genders can Never Truly be “EQUAL" has to be Acknowledged by everyone before this can work, and with that in mind, We all can work towards Making sure women are not Discriminated At All in Any way because of who they are. This i believe, Can be Achieved.

realmindz:
leave me alone..!!!!! aaarghh...Stopppl!!!! please don't say that name again...it scares me...

Now Receive!

SweetPuffPuff:
[color=deeppink]its only ignorance and desperation that will have a woman agreeing 2 share a man [/color]

It's only ignorance that would make someone think that an African woman sharing her husband in a polygamous home is something wrong or New. For more than 3000 years we Africans have been polygamous in Nature until the white men Arrived. Go read your History Lady. From the Powerful Queens of Egypt to even your own ancestors were polygamous in Nature, Did they Die?? If you want to be monogamous, Please be but don't Look down on people who Practice Polygamy because doing that in itself shows huge ignorance on your part. Be Guided.

Hi Sarassin Your Attention is still needed here Please. Thanks.

Ladyhippolyta88:
This woman is very lucky he is the best man in the world.Many women pray for husbands like this ah oga you are a good man.Some Nigerians would call this man bewitched or whatever jealousy and bad belle people.

I Really Really wish i could have a face to face conversation with you about your idea and perspective about Feminism. I honestly believe from what i have gathered as your opinion on it, that on this idea, there's a fundamental flaw in your perception of it and this is one that i would really like to help you correct because i believe you are intelligent and so need to know the truth, But unfortunately i can't fully accomplish that mission on nairaland because there's too much i will want to tell you, i just can't do that much Typing and at the end of the day, i may not be able to pass the message to you properly. Maybe someday we could have a telephone conversation or something like that Where we shall tackle this using the Tool of RATIONALITY.. and maybe we could Enlighten each other On what the REAL Truths are on this issue, On what can be done and also how it Should be done.
I do hope this will happen soon and i am very positive that after that session, You will get to see this issue in a very different Light and ultimately find more Satisfaction and inner peace in going about the cause that you and others are fighting for.

Shalom.

Ferisidowu:
hmmm nice I agree with the majority of ur post.... I only have a doubt, are you a pantheist?

Thank you and Yes i am a pantheist.

Lovely thread Ladyhippolyta88. I would like to present my contribution as simple and understandable as it can be but i still fear some concepts i might use might not be easily understandable but i will give it a try. First of all are you familiar the the concept of paradoxes? i personally call them Eternal Cycles. On an earlier thread of mine i talked about paradoxes as being ideas or Questions that doesn't belong to our normal default 3 Dimensional realm of understanding and as such makes them unable to be grasped by the human mind. i also said "In Eternal cycles, the two Parent forces of life meet and everything at this state is considered One with Each other. At this point it becomes impossible for the human mind to fully Grasp such phenomenons because our existence is on the Third Dimensional plane which is vigorously grounded in Duality"


With being said, I personally believe The key to understanding this question is Understanding paradoxes.

In Our understanding of Reality, Everything is grounded on duality, Opposites or Polarity.
Its Either
Yes or No
Good or Bad
Wrong or Right
Light or darkness..e.t.c.

But what if there is a State that Transcends this type of reality? What if there is a state where all is neutral.. Where the two polarities become One.. Where it is possible to BE and also NOT BE?... Sorry to drag your mind into this weird Zone but this is the territory of the Question you're asking. The concept of Destiny is a paradox, just as the concept of God and Eternity are also paradoxes. You just can't understand them with the human Reality of Duality and Polarity.

In this case the Answer you seek is also in your question.
is Man's Destiny Shaped By God or By Man himself?
I say man's Destiny is Shaped by God and at the same time also By Man Himself...Remove the Polarities between Man and God and you get your answer.

Before i go i would refer you to my previous quote on the paradox of the idea of God.

"The idea of God is in itself the Biggest Paradox of All, That's why i Believe when you say God Exists, You're Right and Also when you say he doesn't exist, You're also Right! Duality does Not Exist on that plane you are threading on and therefore on this Plane, The creator and the Creation are simply inseparable, One and The same"

coolestchris2:
who is your student

I shall refer you to a handle called Sarassin, I believe he should be a more better candidate for the "Master" you are looking for. Billy is an intelligent and smart guy, I'll give him that.. But along the line i discovered that this guy is someone who lives Exclusively inside his head and this can be really toxic and affect your grip on Reality. With all due respect to him, Someone who is extremely emotional and ridiculously egotistic as he is just doesn't Qualify to play that "Master" role that you are looking for, although i have faith that he's intelligent enough to see his faults and weaknesses and correct them in the Future. But his weaknesses are actually that of babies and new comers on this path of enlightenment and i find that really surprising for someone As intellectually vast as he is... but like i always say.. you can stumble on a lot of intelligent information and posses knowledge, but you can not Stumble upon Wisdom. Anyway for now my good friend, with all Honesty, i say to you Abandon this thread NOW and Follow Sarassin, his posts will lead you back on the right track and this is the only way for you to avoid the eventuality of following a "Smart" but delusional human being into a very deep booby trapped rabbit hole you might not be able to come out of. Have a lovely evening sir.

vaxx:
To be honest, i really like the idea of Spinoza GOD , at least well philosophically posited than atheism(my opinion) and somehow agree with my paganism faith apart that we still believes all creature springs up from a source that is self independent and unique in kind but the creature he created including every other element which are plant , water , trees and the rest(but known and yet unknown) of the universe has an internal soul force.

well, i believe it is true that all human beings are connected to the material world, science made us know that we are product of element called matter and the same elements that make up the human body are all taken or present in other things of nature.i also absolutely agree, but lets look it this way , When a person eats and grows he assimilates his food intake into his body, he literally is what he eats(we are what we eat)my concept though. But i believe there is much more to a human being than the SPINOZA idea . There is the spirit as well and all of the embedded powers of reasons, wonder and imagination that we human beings have as well. Each of us think our own thoughts, has our own beliefs, reflects on our own experiences as well, fears, hopes and dreams. All these somehow makes us difference individual.i will like to understand the position of pantheism on this concept? why are we unique in kind despite being a product of the same material world?

Very intriguing question.. although i wouldn't want to be the one to Answer this question all by myself as i consider Sarassin In a better position to Offer stronger insights on this while i finish it off with my Contribution. So dear Sarassin, i kindly wish you will offer us your insight on this. Thanks.

Sarassin:
Sure, if we start with the broadest definition of Pantheism that identifies the Divine with the universe, we can then further refine our definition by affirming that Pantheism is not the deification of the physical structures of the cosmos but rather an acknowledgement of an all pervasive, all embracing sentience or awareness, or even let us say "Spirit" as described earlier. We could also say that this cosmic sentience or “Being” exists by virtue of the fact that the universe has come into existence.

If we consider that, awareness and cognisance of this Cosmic sentience is the ultimate reality, then Tantra is the path to an experience of the ultimate reality.

All the great religions of the world asks for your faith and belief in their codified revelations of God. Tantra is not concerned with one’s belief or faith in God, it seeks only to show you the path to an experience of the ultimate reality.

Hmmm interesting, Thank you for this.

TroubleMaker47:
Most of the allowance you wrote up there are not monthly. Some are yearly and others fourth yearly

It's Monthly.. Some of them are Only Fully Paid yearly But if you divide them to monthly payments, that's what you get.

Sarassin:
Thank you very much. The question you ask is quite loaded, I believe each is a universal truth, change is constant and universal it represents the ultimate expression of Divine will but I would be loathe to diminish the second axiom on the interdependence of things because change is calibrated by awareness as illustrated by the ancient Chinese philosopher Zhuang Zhu who neatly sums it up in the following story:

“Once upon a time, I, Chuang Chou, dreamt I was a butterfly, fluttering hither and thither, to all intents and purposes a butterfly. I was conscious only of my happiness as a butterfly, unaware that I was Chou. Soon I awaked, and there I was, veritably myself again. Now I do not know whether I was then a man dreaming I was a butterfly, or whether I am now a butterfly, dreaming I am a man. Between a man and a butterfly there is necessarily a distinction. The transition is called the transformation of material things.”

For me, the Pantheistic ideal embodies the principles of change and interdependence, the material form is secondary this of course leads us to the third and final axiom which is “transformation.”

Thank you so much for this. I don't know if you'd have the time but please when you do, Could you please elaborate on the Fundamental differences between Tantra and Pantheism? Thanks

festwiz:
They seem sort of similar to me.

pan·the·ism- /ˈpanTHēˌizəm/

noun

1. a doctrine that identifies God with the universe, or regards the universe as a manifestation of God.

2. worship that admits or tolerates all gods.

WHILE

Universalism is a theological and philosophical concept that some ideas have universal application or applicability.[ citation needed]A community that calls itself universalist may emphasize the universal principles of most religions and accept other religions in an inclusive manner, believing in a universal reconciliation between humanity and the divine

Hmmm. The idea is definitely valid in it's own right... But i think from the Definitions which you gave above, You can already see there are fundamental differences between the two.

mubbyzhe:
I'm not giving God a personality, for I am yet to be sure if He exists at all. However, if and only it exists, we are yet to know, how is He, who or what is He, why is He, Are we part of He? are separate of He? What does He want from Us? and many more other questions. Choosing to be a pantheist, you're already defining God and how he operates, however, I do not believe we have a substantial evidence to say so. Once again, whether you believe in God exists or not, whether you even "believe" (believe that He do influence our lives) in Him, the most important thing is to live this your life to the fullest while it last.

True. Thank you for this.

mubbyzhe:
Lol, the simple truth is whether God exist or not, neither can be proven. However, if God actually exist, we do not know even a single thing about Him or Her, His/Her true nature, how He/She works, His/Her purpose, whether we're special to Him/Her, whether we're just like minute cells in His/Her body, thinking that we matters, when in the real sense we may not, Perhaps we're just His/Her slaves, perhaps, some of us are just minor characters to His/Her major characters in His/Her play, like millions of people that perished in the cause of David, Solomon, Jesus, Paul, Mohammed, Hitler, Osama Bin Laden, Gbagbo, Gaddafi and many popular men in History of humanity. We may never know. So the best thing is to live life to the fullest, enjoy it while it last, who knows, we might even be like a computer/game simulation, just for the fun of whoever or whatever created us.

I can see your point my good friend, But I think the real problem with us humans is trying to give this entity, this Ultimate Intelligence we call God, a personality. I think when you do that, you try to place it in a bracket, like you're trying to make it Something you can Understand thereby limiting the Nature of its existence. It is just way bigger than any personality you can think of ascribing to it Because whenever you try to give something a personality, you do so within the confines of your imagination, Your limited human mental construct. I think that is where the problem with the idea behind your post lies. When you have transcended that level of trying to give this being a personality, then you might come to Perceive it a little better than you do And probably grasp the Idea behind the Pantheistic attempt to Perceive(Note i didn't use the word understand or Explain) This entity. Pantheism is an idea that perceives God as everything that was everything that is and everything that will be And so you can never ever try to fit that in the small box and confines of the human Mind. It is Virtually Impossible. Maybe when you begin Understand that What we call God is something that Should be perceived(or felt) and NOT understood, then you can start your journey into Pantheism From there. Many Thanks for your contribution.

Ladipo10:
That's about 4M monthly salary.

Nope, The Furniture allowance is about 7.5m Alone. Check again.

Iamhappiness:
Come Seun or what is your name called. I don't know what your problem is. You & your fellow atheists believe you are intelligent. But believe me you all are one of the most foolish people on earth. I don't understand the reason why a sane human being would believe there is no GOD. Really I still can't get it. You believe these planets just came into existence by itself ? You think you came into this world by mere chance ? Oh I see it's evolution. Fools. You think when you die, that would be the end of it all ? How foolish of you guys to think you're more intelligent than your Maker.

But I've come to realize that most of you atheists aren't that foolish. Deep down your heart, you know GOD exist. But you refuse to admit. Most of you are blinded by resentment and bitterness.

Am quite sure most atheists used to believe in GOD until probably something {bad} happened to them which made them change their thinking. Perhaps they lost a loved one. 0r maybe they prayed to GOD and their prayer wasn't answered. And this made them so sad, disappointed and angry that they concluded GOD doesn't exist. I pity these kind of people

But there are some foolish ones which i refuse to pity. As a result of their sinful lifestyle, they decide to pretend GOD doesn't exist so they won't have to ask HIM for forgiveness of their sin. No matter the number of times you say `GOD doesn't exist', that wont change a thing It won't stop GOD from being GOD. GOD is not APC, HE doesn't change.

I'm very sure you Seun are one of this foolish people. But if am wrong, then am sorry. I just hope it's not too late before you know and say the truth. If u like continue to live in a dreamland and say GOD doesn't exist. You can continue to lie that there're quite a few monotheistic religion in the world, each with their own belief and doctrine.

I won't say christianity or islam is the true religion. All am very sure of is that Jesus Christ is the only true way that leads to the Father. Is your name not OluwaSeun ? But you have refuse to thank GOD for the gift of life. You even have the mind to compare yourself with GOD. Aja to ba fe parun, ko ni gbo fere olode Omo ta n ba soro to n warunki, ko se tan a ti parun. I pray that won't be your lot in Jesus' name, amen. So, e ronu ke pi iwada ke ma ba sonu.

This intelligence which you think you have, who gave it to you ? Is it not the Living GOD. One day you will know the truth and it will surely set you free.

It is when they're about to die that they now start saying 'GOD, if it's true that YOU exist, am begging YOU to please forgive me my sin. Please spare my life, don't let me die like this. If YOU save me I promise to serve YOU for the rest of my life. But it's already too late Epa o gboro mo.

Thanks

What Exactly are you trying to achieve with this post? Please Elaborate.

kyrianbest:
help me abeg my calculator dey show error

Lol Fellow Nigerians, What if i told you all that the so call senators salary Figure that you all saw was even A BIG LIE and that what they take home every month is bigger than that??
I laughed when i saw 13.5 Million.

I can Authoritatively tell you all (And believe me i got this from a very reliable source) that these are the true figures of what our senators earn Every month.

Basic salary N2,484,245.50; hardship allowance, 1,242, 122.70; constituency allowance N4, 968, 509.00; furniture allowance N7, 452, 736.50; newspaper allowance N1, 242, 122.70.“Wardrobe allowance N621,061.37; recess allowance N248, 424.55; accommodation 4,968,509.00; utilities N828,081.83; domestic staff N1,863,184.12; entertainment N828,081.83; personal assistant N621,061.37; vehicle maintenance allowanceN1,863,184.12; leave allowance N248,424.55; severance gratuityN7, 425,736.50; and motor vehicle allowance N9, 936,982.00

You can now do your calculations people

festwiz:
I've always wondered if pantheists also hold the same beliefs as universalists. Do they?

I'm sorry but I'm not really familiar with the ideas of universalists, Could you elaborate on it a bit?