European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Paul Scholes Retires: by MrTA(m): 6:57pm On May 31, 2011 |
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European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Manchester United Fan Thread: In Fergie We Trust! by MrTA(m): 1:50pm On May 31, 2011 |
Even after giving us a hiding, its good to see the Barcelona players queuing up to gets Scholes' jersey after the match. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Manchester United Fan Thread: In Fergie We Trust! by MrTA(m): 1:47pm On May 31, 2011 |
Farewell to the little master
Andrés Iniesta was nowhere to be seen as Barcelona’s celebrations began at Wembley on Saturday evening. United had spent much of the previous 90 minutes looking for the little Spaniard, and now even his team-mates were unable to locate him.
But as the new European champions were embracing and cavorting, their unassuming little midfielder was once again deep in United territory, this time locked in conversation with Paul Scholes. The 27-year-old had two priorities before Saturday’s game: win the match; then get Scholes’ shirt.
Iniesta, perhaps the leading exponent of modern midfield artistry, got his wish before trotting off to rejoin his colleagues, white shirt draped carefully around his neck. Even in the final game of his epic career, Paul Scholes attracted the admiration of his most distinguished peers.
It should be no surprise, of course. The last 15 years have been soundtracked by cooing from modern greats. Zidane, Davids, Vieira, Henry and countless more have labelled Scholes as their most gifted opponent. Even last week Pep Guardiola – himself a pre-eminent midfielder before he started out in the trophy monopolising business – paid tribute to the 36-year-old, labelling him: “the best midfielder of his generation.”
Being the gruff, bashful soul that he is, Scholes would wince with every proclamation of his brilliance. So we shouldn’t be surprised that his retirement, when it came, was so low key. Typically, for a player who made a living from going unnoticed, he has ghosted onto the sidelines. No teary speeches, no fanfare. They will be left to others.
Allow me to set the ball rolling. The little man has been the most naturally gifted footballer I have seen in over two decades of coming to Old Trafford. This most gilded era has hosted legendary talents such as Cantona, Hughes, Keane, Beckham, van Nistelrooy, Ronaldo and Giggs, yet, for me, Scholes stands above them all, shuffling uncomfortably on a podium.
He did, of course, do his level best to shun all attempts to elevate him. “I’m alright, I suppose,” was a stock response whenever fronted with his excellence in interviews. That’s when you could pin him down for more than five minutes. A particular trick of Scholesy’s was to arrange interviews for before training. He would then arrive 10 minutes before the session began, giving him the perfect excuse to cut the chat short. One minute he was there, the next he’d vanished. I suppose it was a flavour of being a Premier League defender over the last decade and a half.
Though no bosom buddy of the media, the man dubbed ‘Sat Nav’ by his colleagues was the definitive players’ player. His very mention usually provokes a shake of the head and artistic articulation of his brilliance. In years of asking different players who stands out in training, nobody has ever failed to name Scholes first. And coaches loved him. “Playing with Paul Scholes is like playing with the light on,” Carlos Queiroz once said. “Scholesy could play five-a-side blindfolded,” added former chief scout Mick Brown. “Everything he does is absolutely functional,” opined Rene Meulensteen.
That last one sums up the value of Scholes: a priceless lucidity which allowed him to read and dictate games. As every good snooker player thinks three shots ahead, United’s number 18 had already passed and moved before he had even received the ball. From the little asthmatic ginger kid who would bang in goals for fun at Littleton Road and The Cliff, to the radar-slipping phantom who brought the guile to United’s midfield for a decade and a half, Scholes has always been ahead of the game.
The media will heave with tributes and video montages over the coming days. You’ll relive the thumping long-rangers, the boundless passing and the sporadically feral challenges. If you didn’t already, you’ll appreciate what we will come to miss. There will also be plentiful players tipped to fill the great man’s boots, but they can’t. Just as the hunt for the new Roy Keane was called off, the search for the new Paul Scholes is doomed to failure. United must evolve, rather than attempt to replace the irreplaceable.
It is a masterstroke of Sir Alex Ferguson to retain Scholes’ experience in a coaching capacity. Unwittingly, he’s been educating his fellow pros for years, and if he can work directly with United’s FA Youth Cup winners – particularly midfielders Pogba, Morrison and Tunnicliffe – then his brilliance will live on at first team level.
Barcelona’s players certainly recognised his worth on Saturday. Stood, clad in Iniesta’s sweat-drenched shirt, Scholes had to disappoint Messi, Xavi, Busquets and Pedro by informing each that he had already surrendered his jersey. For all their modern mastery of the football, Barcelona’s pass-poppers recognised that they were in the presence of the greatest little maestro of his generation. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Manchester United Fan Thread: In Fergie We Trust! by MrTA(m): 1:45pm On May 31, 2011 |
It has been confirmed that Scholesy as a coaching role at the club. Very good to hear that. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Manchester United Fan Thread: In Fergie We Trust! by MrTA(m): 11:14am On May 31, 2011 |
You huge signings are a must in the midfield now. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Manchester United Fan Thread: In Fergie We Trust! by MrTA(m): 10:32am On May 31, 2011 |
Scholes, What a legend. Im glad he has retired as the legs were really going. He can still pick a pass as well as anyone and the brain was still there but it seems he started to need a little while. he was alot slower. I have many many fond memories of him.
One of my favourite Scholes goals was the one he scored against Aston Villa in the league. Also one he scored at Stanford Bridge against Chelsea some years ago was an Absolute cracker but the Villa goal was plain ridiculous.
Legend. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Condolence Register For Manutd: Pls Sign In And Drop A Message. by MrTA(m): 9:05pm On May 30, 2011 |
Ok, In July. While the Big boys are still starting their pre-season plans. Acting like Wenger wouldnt give both testicles for the season we've just had. Keep dreaming though. Premier league Champions, Hate on that. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Condolence Register For Manutd: Pls Sign In And Drop A Message. by MrTA(m): 8:43pm On May 30, 2011 |
Enjoy your Champion league qualifiers in June while we parade our premier league trophy thanks. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Manchester United Fan Thread: In Fergie We Trust! by MrTA(m): 6:19pm On May 30, 2011 |
I cant believe Arsenal fans have a thread discussing who lost worse against Barcelona.  Do these people have no shame? See what lack of success does to people. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Condolence Register For Manutd: Pls Sign In And Drop A Message. by MrTA(m): 6:17pm On May 30, 2011 |
I dont know why you bother yourself with losers. we are still the premier league champions. record breaking premier league champions at that. why dont you leave them to try enjoy the success of another team since their own team lacks any. All this story about your manager not spending any money is just that. Story.
Signing condolence register for the premier league champions? we must have a thread for the funeral of the rest of the league. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Manchester United Fan Thread: In Fergie We Trust! by MrTA(m): 10:24pm On May 29, 2011 |
Wow, What can I say, disappointed but really we never stood a chance mainly because our midfield is soooo weak and that was our downfall. Defensively, I still think we're as good as any out there and our attack is fine but our midfield lacks big time. Having said that, I knew Baba would play that same team that faced Chelsea and really he has himself to blame for that. Considering how weak we are in midfield I would have thought he would have packed the midfield and left Hernandez on the bench with Rooney upfront on his own. Because that team works against the Chelsea's of this world doesnt mean it would work against the side widely agreed to be one of the best footballing sides of all time. with that said, its still been a fantastic season and if you would have given me this at the start of the season I would have snatched it out of your hand. Im more than delighted with the premier league title. We really need to strengthen the midfield and a new goalkeeper goes without saying. Looking forward to the new season. P.S - I find it laughable the fans of other teams who havent won a dime laughing at us. that's quite priceless.  |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Manchester United Fan Thread: In Fergie We Trust! by MrTA(m): 4:44pm On May 26, 2011 |
I'll definitely need the ambulance on standby if it goes to penalties. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Manchester United Fan Thread: In Fergie We Trust! by MrTA(m): 10:22am On May 26, 2011 |
I think Rooney would be too nullified as an attacking force if we play him on the left and get him tracking Alves. That would simply not work. if anyone is going to join up defensively in midfield it should be Rooney and then Park doing the Alves tracking. No way would it be a good idea for Park to be the one tracking Messi and then joining the attack, its either he stays tracking Messi and play deep or stay wide and track Alves where Rooney can influence play in attack and also cut Busquets from the midfield link. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Manchester United Fan Thread: In Fergie We Trust! by MrTA(m): 1:02pm On May 25, 2011 |
lalaboi: Na wa oh. . . I was only referring to his shameful scandal. True he's one of the reasons chelsea got knocked out. True! he's a proven winner on the pitch! Outside that he's a phokin disgrace! You can only imagine how the boos will rain on him next season. Then again, United fans always stick with their scandalous stars! . Rooney! Giggs! Morale is prolly not at the highest for the Barca game. A lot of your players look up to him and he's let them down. how depressing lol. . Wow, this is a very embarrassing post considering you're a Chelsea fan. Im very embarrassed for you. smh |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Manchester United Fan Thread: In Fergie We Trust! by MrTA(m): 10:57pm On May 24, 2011 |
Neville is a red.  |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Manchester United Fan Thread: In Fergie We Trust! by MrTA(m): 9:31pm On May 24, 2011 |
Juve won 2-1. Becks still played great. Can still do a good job at a top team. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Manchester United Fan Thread: In Fergie We Trust! by MrTA(m): 9:09pm On May 24, 2011 |
Surprised Fletcher isnt playing at all. hmmm |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Manchester United Fan Thread: In Fergie We Trust! by MrTA(m): 8:08pm On May 24, 2011 |
Rooney scores from a Giggs cross and is subbed after 30mins along with Giggs and Scholes. Game descends into a farce as SAF replaces them with Bebe,Obertan and Gibson  Beckham can still pick out an amazing pass though. wow. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Manchester United Fan Thread: In Fergie We Trust! by MrTA(m): 8:05pm On May 24, 2011 |
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European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Manchester United Fan Thread: In Fergie We Trust! by MrTA(m): 7:49pm On May 24, 2011 |
It seems De Gea to us is a done deal. Apparently about £17M. It really hope we make a better job of replacing a great keeper than we did last time out.
I personally am a little worried about him, obviously he's very talented but he doesnt speak English and very inexperienced at the highest level. But if he works out then that's the goalkeeping position sorted for nearly 15 years! |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Manchester United Fan Thread: In Fergie We Trust! by MrTA(m): 9:28am On May 24, 2011 |
coogar: i really dunno what morrison has to do to be promoted. it's so obvious he's more talented than his peers at this level. every time i have seen him play at youth level, he's been the best player on the pitch. he single-handedly wrecked liverpool at anfield and he was at his beastly best last night. . . . . if morrison was in arsenal academy player, he would have been pushed to the senior team at 16. the lad is world class. Its easier for him to get promoted at Arsenal because he is not replacing proven winners, and simply, they are not as good as we are. Alot harder at man utd even though we have a great record of bringing through young players and will continue to do so, but it has to be at the right time. Im sure SAF will put him or any of the others who are ready when they are. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Manchester United Fan Thread: In Fergie We Trust! by MrTA(m): 9:33pm On May 23, 2011 |
That Will Keane can finish. Good performance. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Manchester United Fan Thread: In Fergie We Trust! by MrTA(m): 8:19pm On May 23, 2011 |
Good first half,Like Pogba's surging runs. Have been all over them and we really should be 3-4 up. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Arsenal Fan Thread: For Gunners Only (A New Strength, A New Hope). by MrTA(m): 7:15pm On May 23, 2011 |
What has expectation got to do with what happened on the pitch considering we have always been ahead of them in the league for most of the season and people who know and watch the game know we're a great team with one of the greatest managers in the game? You're copping out by saying you're not taking anything away from man utd then you go and list excuses for them winning it. If you dont want to give props say that but dont say that and then hide behind it. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Arsenal Fan Thread: For Gunners Only (A New Strength, A New Hope). by MrTA(m): 6:46pm On May 23, 2011 |
dipo2much: Can we just get over this dudu-pupa thing already? There was a basis for duduspace saying manure is on a decline. He might have been too affirmative in his predictions, but for christ sakes, was manure not shitty relative to previous EPL winners? The issue is †нє other clubs were even more shitty. Winning only 5 games away from home tells u how bad all †нє english teams were. And they are in †нє UCL final cos chelsea, †нє only strong team they had to face after †нє group stage messed up. Not taking anytin away from manure, but dissapointing displays from other teams made their road far too easy. No, we were not shitty compared to previous winners. How can you say that given our home form? We're in the final of the Cl because we only had to face Chelsea who messed up, really? so because we beat them means they messed up? dont forget this same Chelsea beat us in the league less than a month before. You are saying all this but taking all away from us. Very undignified. Who did you face in the Champions league before you met Barcelona that made you finish 2nd in your group? Take that with you. I'll take my shitty premier league winners thank you very much. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Manchester United Fan Thread: In Fergie We Trust! by MrTA(m): 11:07am On May 23, 2011 |
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European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Manchester United Fan Thread: In Fergie We Trust! by MrTA(m): 10:08am On May 23, 2011 |
Champions  |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Manchester United Fan Thread: In Fergie We Trust! by MrTA(m): 6:25pm On May 22, 2011 |
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European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Manchester United Fan Thread: In Fergie We Trust! by MrTA(m): 6:23pm On May 22, 2011 |
Twins  |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Manchester United Fan Thread: In Fergie We Trust! by MrTA(m): 6:06pm On May 22, 2011 |
Fantastic, especially at home. Our home form has just been pretty phenomenal. Also finishing the season 9 point clear of our nearest challengers. A little strange that City finished on same points with Chelsea though and Arsenal finishing 4th is funny on every level.  |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Manchester United Fan Thread: In Fergie We Trust! by MrTA(m): 5:43pm On May 22, 2011 |
Good finish from Owen, I wouldnt be Adverse to Owen staying another season at United. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Manchester United Fan Thread: In Fergie We Trust! by MrTA(m): 5:39pm On May 22, 2011 |
coogar: who found berbatov with that cross-field pass again? Fletcher, but are you saying from what you have seen in this match, he's sharp enough to start against Barca? |