macof:

My work here is done.

You probably see Europeans as master brains while ur ancestors are nothing but lame men making folklore

lol. Now you're sounding like folykze. Why do you think that if we don't accept local bullshit therefore we must be european wannabes? Its like a Christian saying that if you don't worship Yahweh then you must be a devil worshipper.

@foly, I told you before, the patient has the first say on his life except in cases where he is unable.

What do you expect a family of an unconscious brain dead man to do? Continue on life support indefinitely? At what cost to living relatives?

Saying we are all ill but in different degrees is just a red herring. Euthanasia is considered in a terminally ill person. Someone who has no hope of a cure anymore. How can you compare that to a walking healthy person?

macof:

Not so.

As I always say, spirituality is at a level science is still building up to.

this is the bullshit religious people say that piss me off.

philosophy is a Great part of spirituality and myths are symbolic
All myths have to say something about reality.

Like Oduduwa coming down from a chain to create earth after Obatala got drunk and slept off.
I have used the big bang theory to explain this

on the contrary myths are realities embellished with a lot of nonsense.

They are just mostly entertaining stories used to explain natural phenomena.

aManFromMars: Smh.


I'm out.

*drags his trouser* Come back here o!

Billyonaire:

Is this about authenticity of a private information I am sharing or about candid research on the possible root of fire-electricity phenomena. Remember, this is not about self-glorification or argument, its about research. I am sharing with you, that Sango's experience is NOT myth, cos my Great Grand Father actually possessed such powers while my little brother is shocked to see such playing out in his dreams.

Welcome back billyonaire.

FOLYKAZE:

Euthanasia is termed as 'assisted suicide'. The person assisting or aiding the suicide is a murderer.

No emotion here

is suicide evil in all and every scenario or case?

P.S. I did not insult your intelligence but I see you insisting it is murder when we have not come to that conclusion yet. Insisting something without showing how does not make for good debate.

As for your previous reply, when I said the patient will eventually die, I was sure you knew what I meant. Sure, we all will eventually die but in this case we are talking about a person who is terminally ill and is in constant excruciating pain. There will be no need to consider euthanasia if there is any hope for a cure.

Reyginus: Let me rephrase it.
What I mean is this, if a businessman's work is to make his patients happy, a tailor also, then what about medicine?

Will a man of medicine go against preserving life, what his occupation serve for and still be a man of medicine?

sometimes it is not as clear cut as that. In most cases of euthanasia, the doctor provides all the possible options and it is left to you to make the choice. So, a medicine man not only prescribes medicine but also renders medical services like drug information, medical advice etc

Ideally, whatever medical course is taken is usually with the full consent of the patient and the patient can and do go against medical advice.

A medicine man should aim to cure diseases but if that is not possible then he should aim to reduce suffering as much as possible but the final decision on euthanasia rests on the patient or his family.

Yay!

Your response didnt show that you understood the situations...

FOLYKAZE:

You think I dont know and I am here discussing it?

Mr..... If the patient make such decision, dont you think it psychological imbalance?

Those who want to die are not in their right mind and perhaps can be argued as being clinically insane, or rather not of sound mind, and that they are incapable of making these decisions rationally due to the duress and pain they are must constantly endure. Look at it from this angle that we all have a biological need to live (fit) and survive. Therefore no one wants to die. What people want, even the suicidally depressed, is to end the pain and suffering.

And like you said that intimate family member can take the decision is synonymous to murdering. Assisted murdering is the same as murdering. If every family members can make this decision then families will want old people to die sooner and against their wishes to save money. This is killing and it is too easily open to abuse, and as a cover for murder.

check @ bold, that is what euthanasia does in a terminally ill patient. The person will eventually die. All what is being done is save the patient and his family undue and excessive pain and stress for what will eventually occur anyway.

It is not murder.

Dp.

macof:
I don't get how some folks think Spirits can die

Doesn't dat mean God is liable to die also

lol. He did na...for 3 days

gcfr.com:
do you believe the world will end in 147 weeks?
Of course I believe hell exists for condemn souls.

lol.


I miss mazaje

Reyginus: Don't see this as a distraction.

Do you agree that medicine like every art prescribe to preserve for their customers, or you agree that the customers prescribe to preserve the art?

bros, I no understand this kweshun o!

aManFromMars:
Apparently, it was easier to kill his son himself than forgive Satan.

gcfr.com:

You're just painting God in a bad way. Your own God is a God that has no mercy, guarantees instant punishment for every single sin you commit. Bros I'm no more arguing.
I await Obadiah, I think he will understand me better, n maybe clarify some salient points I raised.

do you believe there's a hell?

9jadelta: words

ah! Pardon me, I forgot. So basically everything in nature is made of words. Wow!

FOLYKAZE:

If the patient make the decision, like it saidthe self." dont you think such decision might arise through psychological imbalance?

Family members taking such decision on behalf of patient is cold blooded murdering.

do you know the situations in whih euthanasia is considered?

sandijey:


Hehehhehehhehehehe! Am just a learner . Learning from the best! Obadiah

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Kay 17:

Could you think deeper, if there was always Nothing, then there would be no GoD!! Simple to understand.

no! You misunderstand. Nothing can come from nothing....except God.


Though he created the universe using...?

FOLYKAZE:

To the far length I agree with your post, I will ask a question.

Dont you think this should be done only at the request of the patient?

it is usually done at the request of the patient, except in extreme cases where the patient has become unconscious and cannot make that choice then it falls on his/her immediate family. It is never the decision of the doctor.

Go to the nearest MFM church.

gcfr.com:
you were joking here right? You're saying all those wife beaters/murderers, cheats, molesters etc deserved it? Cos they re all evil? Part of their punishment?

are you a learner?

texanomaly:

Yeah...I follow him, as well as you. Some days, I think you are both crazy.

texanomaly: The good thing for all of us is, that their are actually days when I see brilliance in both of you. If you tell anyone...I'll walk away. I'm not a good liar. I have too many tells.

some days?


Don't worry, your secret is safe with me *looks around for Ishilove*

texanomaly:

Huh?

Ishilove:
Lol. You don't wanna go down that road with me... Those statements were made in half jest a few days ago but the last piece of evidence I needed dropped yesternight by no other person than you. Remember how many months ago I asked you how come you knew my name? You replied "it is for me to know and for you to wonder". Well I've been wondering plenty since then. You helped me find out, didn't ya? Look man, I'm deleting you once I log into my fb. You've taught me lessons

*yawn*. Would you recognise evidence even if it slapped you in the face? Pls delete whoever on your facebook. See you feeling special. Nonsense and ingredients!

texanomaly:

Ban tinz...

nah. I'm not banned.

texanomaly:

No. Have you?

no. Are you familiar with his preachings here on NL?


P.S. good night. Feeling sleepy and making too much typos now...

obadiah777: black hebrew israelites believe only black people can be saved. thats not biblical. all races of people can be saved

you don change your preaching?

The username brokoto sounded vaguely familiar so i decided to do a NL local search on it and this what I turned up, apparently, the account has been deactivated. Normally, I would have laughed it off like other attempts by LB et al but I fear Ishilove might actually be dead serious....

Ishilove: The pope guy is LB in satanic garb, but I seriously suspect it is brokoto

https://www.nairaland.com/505782/questions-comments-complaints-talk-moderators/227#18108667

Ishilove:
Brokoto, is this you?

https://www.nairaland.com/1544427/seun-want-pagan-traditionalist-mod/6#20118451

Both these comments were in relation to a username, PopexanderIII with the last one only a few days ago.
I think it is safe to say that Ishilove is confused. Though i'm not much suprised, considering that she believes that demons send sms to peoples phones

texanomaly:
Have you never seen a black Israelite?

have you seen Obadiah?

obadiah777: oh yes you misunderstood

no. You misunderstood.

texanomaly:

Does this matter? You have this thing about race. He is white.

Obadiah's a black israelite. Figure that out.

kolawaxxy:
I just had a good laugh A spaghetti meatball from another universe? I never knew this universe had walls separating it from others.
If a spaghetti meatball was the one who caused the big bang then it is the supreme being! So, what you call a spaghetti meatball is what I call God.

See how your brain couldn't grasp the concept of a parallel universe? Sorry man, you need to read more.