AntiChristian: So you quoted John all through but failed to reconcile that Matthew verse
Matthew 24:36, & Mark 13:32
"But about that day or hour no one knows, not even the angels in heaven, nor the Son, but only the Father.
Jesus does not know the hour.
The Spirit does not know the hour.
Only the father knows it.
Great is our Lord, and mighty in power; his understanding is infinite (Psalm 147:5). This means God knows everything!
Your scriptural preferences are immaterial. I have quoted the scripture to you.
The Father, Son and Holyghost are one.
There are things the human body cannot do that the mind can do and vice versa. E.g Astral projection, Psychic etc. Yet, both body and mind are one.
Consider this, And there are also knowledge hidden in your subconcious mind that you don't know is there. Many experts have figured this, that's why they use subliminal messages in music, movies, company adverts to plant infos subconciosly into your mind without you noticing.
AntiChristian: So how do we explain this verses? Jesus said "the Father is greater than I" John 14:28
John 10:29 "My father is greater than all"
Matthew 24:36, & Mark 13:32
"But about that day or hour no one knows, not even the angels in heaven, nor the Son, but only the Father.
Only the father is all-knowing! Do I still need to quote the Bible verse that states that God is Omniscient for you?
John 8:42 "Jesus said unto them, If God were your Father, ye would love me: for I proceeded forth and came from God; neither came I of myself, but he sent me."
John 13:16 "Verily, verily, I say unto you, The servant is not greater than his lord; neither he that is sent greater than he that sent him."
John 17:5 "And now, O Father, glorify thou me with thine own self with the glory which I had with thee before the world was."
John 14:26 "But the Comforter, which is the Holy Ghost, whom the Father will send in my name, he shall teach you all things,"
1 John 5:7 "For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one.
Yes, Jesus mentioned as God, Alpha and Omega, Beginning and the End, First and Last, Everlasting Father, etc in many scripture verses.
1 John 5:7 "there are three that bear witness in heaven. The Father, The Word (Jesus), The Holyghost. These three are one.
The Human body, soul and spirit are one.
Revelation 1:17. "Fear not; I am the first and the last: 18I am he that liveth, and was dead; and, behold, I am alive for evermore, Amen; and have the keys of hell and of death. "
1 John 5:7 " there are three that bear witness in Heaven. The Father, The Word, The Holy ghost. These three are one.
Colossians 2:18 "Let no man beguile you of your reward in a voluntary humility and worshipping of angels, intruding into those things which he hath not seen, vainly puffed up by his fleshly mind"
Professorcplus: I like those words in bolded even though I doesn't totally agree with everything you type but whatever I sense your observation and I guess you are erudite and knowledgeable enough to hold this conservation.
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helinues, mrZENographer, Bruno3000, risos , First of all a there's a famous quote from Mahatma Gandhi — 'I like your Christ, I do not like your Christians. Your Christians are so unlike your Christ.'
I have a question for you. Can human beings be unified to have one ultimate belief. if yes how can this be achieved? thanks your contribution is highly welcomed.
I get your point of view. Your point is that without religion human will always oppose against humanity. I don't want to use (what is right). Nevertheless, don't be biased. At least, we know that over the course of human evolution and history, human has has a physiological attachment with religion because of the fear of unknown. Every religion deals with the proper way of living in the *right way*. But the right way is only subjected to the society involved.
Yes we all want to make the world a better place to live. We want to make this earth the heaven we always imagined. It's so good. There are good men who has tried to achieve this goal in the course of history. Christ, Alexander, Hitler, Mohammed, Japanese emperor, Julius Caesar, and lot more. But the problem is the best way to achieving this.
This has lead to this discussion of Christianity as a religion. I quoted perfectjustic in his quote "human beings are not perfect" If we agree Christ came to restore humanity and to only way to promote such idea is to tag it with religion. Then you have only created more barriers and limitation and added to the existing problem of disbelief of religions.
Even Jesus came with a good example he never created any religion. From his behaviour, manner and speech, we can tell his aim to to restore humanity in his best way he can during his era of existence (from human point of view). But yet humans are so imperfect created barrier to the legacy of Christ by labelling some set of people Christians.
Mohammed in his own view saw the atrocities in his society and injustice on how the rich enjoy and humiliate the poor. He was bold enough to gather people around him to stop this unfavorable act of the society. Whatever way he went about it either peaceful or violently is not the focus of this writeup. But yet humans are so imperfect created a religion out of it. Tiring thenselves with some belief because of the decision of one man and his imperfect crew.
Humans has now finally leverage on this disbelief to prey on the weak in the name of religion especially Christianity practised in Nigeria. Fake pastors performing miracles controlling the crowds. And the facts is that those who claimed to be believer worship there praising suppose man of God for fake miracle until the fake pastors finally exposed. Now they know he's fake. Those years he/she has been duping you emotionally, financially where has your inner spirit be. Don't be fool.
Yet people keeps running to some human because he claimed he has some spirit that can solve your problem. Yet we never wise we keep falling Victims in the name of religion. This is why some people leverage on this act to perpetrate on other human weakness. More who claimed man of God are increasing to collecting from the masses they have impacted fear to.
My brother if their is another answer to humanity it is not the religion you claimed. Human are imperfect and has done more damaged than good
@ I love your sense of humor but if you continue like this remember your decision affects unborn generations just like the decision of our ancestors brought us to this discussion.
but If its a joke I got it
Ghandi was partly right when he said that. Because Bible says in 2 Timothy 2:20
1) But in a great house there are not only vessels of gold and of silver, but also of wood and of earth; and some to honour, and some to dishonour.
2) In the world's modern stage, it's possible to unify the beliefs, which is what the Vatican Pope is attempting to achieve. It would take a century years of brain washing. Killing of the fundamentalists will be the quickest strategy. Which is what the biblically prophesied False prophet (possibly, Vatican Pope) and Antichrist will work together to achieve.
3) The names you mentioned, Alexander the great etc. These people aren't the great men. The names of great men who would have changed the world are put under the carpet like Nikola Tesla, Dr Rife etc. There are over 50000 patents that can cure cancer and all illness, allow us use water to run every kind of engines, thereby eliminating use of fuel/oil, generate inexhaustible free power supply for all households worldwide. These patents has been suppressed for over a century. Some of these gifted geniuses were poisoned, some never heard of again after showcasing their works etc. Skeletons of ancient giants/races forcefully confiscated, destroyed or taken to secret sites and all their advanced technologies which cannot be understood by today's science are also under the domain of these evil world leaders that govern the world's educational, financial, social system. And the list are uncountable. A fantasy world would have been achieved if not for these evil corrupt elites. They are also mechanically engineering worldwide famines, continuous wars, global warming, societal demoralization ultimately to bring about the New World Order. Which they have been promised more powers by their master, Satan in the earthly and demonic realms.
4) Jesus clearly and emphatically made it known that it is only through his name, humanity can be saved (enter heaven). John 3:18, 36; John 14:6 etc
5) Mohammed was not only a looter who exploited the power of religion. He was also a pathetic liar. Muslims kill Christians today because he told them Christians believe in 3 gods. Christians believe God impregnated a woman to beget Jesus Christ. This even in ears of Christians is blasphemy. Religion has been vastly exploited by corrupt men because it gives lasting fame, power, honor even after the person is dead, his family/early followers reaps the benefits. False religion is the problem of the world. And the prophesied False prophet in collaboration with the Antichrist will be the greatest manifestation of false religion. which also comes with lying wonders. Very many will be decieved. And those who won't will be forced or face the life consequences.
6) Jesus Christ is the true religion. Judaism (Moses laws) was once the true religion. Today, Jesus is the only way.
And when Christians say, Jesus is coming soon. It also means the prophesied Anti-christ is coming. The signs are everywhere and very prominent.
Revelations 17:13 "These (Kings) have one mind, and shall give their power and strength unto the beast."
The Antichrist will reign as King of Kings for 7 years. Afterwhich Jesus Christ will come with the resurrected saints to seize the power from the Beast.
Verse 14: "These shall make war with the Lamb, and the Lamb shall overcome them: for he is Lord of lords, and King of kings: and they that are with him are called, and chosen, and faithful."
Revelation 17:14 These shall make war with the Lamb, and the Lamb shall overcome them: for he is Lord of lords, and King of kings: and they that are with him are called, and chosen, and faithful.
Acts 13:48 And [those of] the nations, hearing it, rejoiced, and glorified the word of the Lord, and believed, as many as were ordained to eternal life.
paxonel: according to what i was thought from childhood in church, they say it is the catching up of saints in the sky or clouds on the last day.
Did you read and conclude the two chapters 1 Corinthians 15 and 1 these 4 ?
Did their conclusion suggest anything like that?
Yes 1 Cor 15: 52: In a moment, in a twinkling of an eye, at the last trump ..... the dead (in Christ) shall be raised incorruptible and we (alive) shall be changed
2 these 4: We that are alive shall not prevent them that are asleep (dead)...... and the dead in Christ shall rise first. Then we which are alive shall be caught up with them.
President of Council of Bishops in Nigeria His Eminence, Archbishop Dr Julius Ediwe Jp and his entourage unwittingly stormed the annual Crusade of the Lord's Chosen. In his speech, appreciated God for the great things God has been using the General Pastor to do.
On behalf of the churches, he tendered apologies to the G.O for all the confusions they were misled to believe because of the women that spread much rumour against the church in 2013. He called her "a mosquito" who tried to twart the plan of God, of which if she had succeeded, they wouldn't be jubilating today in the glorious wonders of God that abide prominently in the ministry. Archbishop (Dr.) Julius Ediwe controls over 10,000 bishops in Nigeria.
paxonel: actually, it's not about knowing scriptures. I'm trying to solve a problem here which should be of concern to all who love Christ and Christianity and I'm saying the terminology and the concept behind it was wrongly coined.
Pick one of those scriptures, read the whole chapter from the beginning to end and draw your conclusion about the chapter, you will discover that the concept of rapture does not follow or go along with your conclusion or what the whole chapter is trying to explain.
Then, certainly something is wrong somewhere
Before we can take this conversation further, pls answer what is Rapture by your own definition or understanding?
paxonel: actually, it's not about knowing scriptures. I'm trying to solve a problem here which should be of concern to all who love Christ and Christianity and I'm saying the terminology and the concept behind it was wrongly coined.
Pick one of those scriptures, read the whole chapter from the beginning to end and draw your conclusion about the chapter, you will discover that the concept of rapture does not follow or go along with your conclusion or what the whole chapter is trying to explain.
Then, certainly something is wrong somewhere
Before we continue this conversation, what is Rapture by your own definition or understanding?
The Lord's Chosen International Crusade Summit in Mgbidi Imo State was full of highlights among which was popular gospel singer performance. 'VOICE OF THE CROSS'. News in details.
How many times ur pastor don contribute to your well-being ??
African child; Church na scam..
Just love one another...and everything will be fine!!
False religion is the problem of Africa and the world.
False Religion: Do you know that the greatest holocaust in humanity's history will be initiated by the False prophet who works with Antichrist. (Book of Revelation)
Until Jesus comes physically to cast him alive in the lack of fire.
“All things have been committed to me by my Father. No one knows who the Son is except the Father, and no one knows who the Father is except the Son and those to whom the Son chooses to reveal him.”
Jesus is the Father
"For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one." 1 John 5:7
Jesus said unto them, If God were your Father, ye would love me: for I proceeded forth and came from God; neither came I of myself, but he sent me. John 8:42
Any Christian who knowledgeable about what is going on and not deceived by the biased mainstream media of the Leftist party(CNN, BBC) will be really glorying God for a U.S leader as TRUMP.
The technological independence and know how In the east is breathtaking. Some said it is the home of craftsmen with engineers hearts.
If I were a president, I will unleash upon the nation, the incredible scientific, technological, and entrepreneurship potentials of the East.
Needless to say, every region in the country possess tremendous and diverse abilities. It requires only a cohesive force to make Nigeria one of the greatest countries on earth.
Richdad
Are you aware there has been a lot of suppression for alternative energies for many decades? e.g water as fuel in cars/generator plants, hydrogen as fuel with zero green effect.
jesusjnr: Who said God had pleasure in the death of sinners?
You keep drawing erroneous assumptions from what someone says.
So if someone says the Truth as Jesus did concerning the flood God sent to destroy all of mankind in the days of Noah, that would make someone to sound as an atheist, or is that how Jesus who said that sounds to you? Did Jesus sound like an atheist for saying the Truth?
Or did God destroying the whole of mankind in the days of Noah mean that He derives pleasure from the death of sinners?
This has nothing to do with atheists or atheism for atheists are usually Godhaters, so whatever they say about God is usually ulterior motivated, but that doesn't mean that a believer should not say the Truth about the reality of God sending sinners to eternal damnation if they don't repent.
God is the righteous judge, and He is perfect regardless of what He does.
The same way God sent the flood in the days of Noah, i believe it's the same way He sent the tsunami as sign and a warning to mankind.
But make no mistake that it means that God is responsible for the evil in the world Because man is responsible for it not Go, for it's the evils that men do that makes God have to bring such evils upon them.
You know that God didn't even spare His people Israel, so you need to learn about God more, because God does bring evil upon man, but He never does it except He has to and man asks for it via his wickedness.
Since grace and truth came into the world (Jesus- John 1), the judgement of God has been reserved for the day of vengeance (After the rapture) and everlasting Judgement.
The problems mankind is experiencing today are caused by man's wickedness to man and the devil and his evil forces. They are not the hand/judgement of God. God simply does not intervene because men have despised and ignored him. "And because men loved darkness rather than light" (John 3: 19)