₦airaland Forum

Muafrika2:
That captures it I believe.

Seems everybody started out black. But something strange happened to people outside the continent. The Denisovan and neanderthal effect, and whatever else people did to end up diverse.

As a side note, I suspect that such admixture was the cause of the changes in DNA. And there is possibility of willful introduction of modifying agents into people's bodies by ancient scientists, maybe biological and nuclear weapons. The presence of haplogroup "A" testifies to that fact. That It could have survived without interference.

Heeh! You people are schooling me all the time . I need a starter course on early human history. I find it very fascinating..Any suggestions?

Am thinking of taking out a comprehensive DNA analysis to determine my true genetic ancestors as well.

alexxo11:
wachana nao....siku ile tutachoka nao ndio watakubali....wacha waendelee kujifanaya ni kama kenya ni ya mama yao.......watajua sisi si mama yao

bhanaa! hapo umedunga point. Man, sasa hivi nimetokelezea toka porini ya wiki 2, afu nimeenda Mambasaa kuona fam, nawakuta wamejaa vishenzz kila kona kama buxton na bombo. Hawa wadhii wanakuaga wasee wa kujifunga hao siku yote kisha kujitokeza jioni kama amedownload mpesa za kubet na kutukana mahomeboy kwao. Aki ya nani, ukiona nyoka kwako tafta ncha kali uimalize, sio uiongojee kukuudhi ndio unareact. Ama hujui tabia zao? Bro, pia ni kama unawapa hawa wasee leakage jo, watazidi na maaraifa ama hujui hii miafrika? Msee hio stori ya huyo dem kudungwa ovyo na hawa mafala imeniwaasha mbaya pia. Nakumbuka nikiishingi langata uhuru garden na civo nikiwanga seko.hii upuzi ulifanyika when na hao wadhii walifanywa nini?

If they go their separate ways, what happens to my beloved Barça?

Bifwoli:
Yup,your'e very right .Its mind boggling that some folks choose to ignore certain facts when it doesn't suit their skewed political narrative .Trying to argue that far more companies have set up shop than the few that've left isn't popular here.Lack of unga is a very big factor but somehow greater regional drought is not.Debt is a big concern but lets not notice the new railway and the bunch of roads built ,power plants expanded and the stable power supply gained ...its all really illogical and nauseating.

I'm a business minded person and i'd really love to see this upward trend kept up and the pace even speeded up and whatever is politically convenient for some should come 2nd .Heck i'm proud of the vast improvement in the ease of doing business ranking achieved by this administration (3rd most improved in the world) Also check out the 2017 Global Innovation Index rankings that came out in March 2017 where Kenya came 3rd in SSA thanks to the momentum of the current govt.
www.globalinnovationindex.org
http://www.wipo.int/pressroom/en/articles/2017/article_0006.html#top

Bifwoli, i know you're addressing me. You have however gone off on a tangent and made unfounded assertions in response to my views. All i did was to point out that indeed consumer prices are on an upward, and seemingly unending spiral. As somebody who is in the engineering business, i know first hand how big projects have an effect on GDP growth. You have falsely claimed that folks ignore how certain roads, ports etc are being built when the same are actually putting food on my very own table. So the idea or notion that people don't appreciate the new infrastructure is pure invention.

Would you prefer to ignore the very real problem of rising living costs and discuss the causes and solutions, or would you like to dissect one's opinion and attach tags and labels to individuals who voice contrary opinions? I still stick to my earlier statement about corn shortage viz. it was foreseen and expected a long time ago, but little was done to mitigate it. That's sad.

Maduawuchukwu:
Na true na. Nigerians like SA but see the blacks as inferior in looks and reasoning. What are their new achievements since 1994 when they were freed? They have even lost the head start they were given by whitey. They should work on themselves and stop living on past whitey glory.

You guys do this everywhere you go in Africa, not just SA.

Bifwoli:
Too much selective "facts" and misrepresentations here .

First off ,Lapsett was never about oil discovery it was mooted as part of Vision 2030 way back in 2008 - thats 4yrs before oil was 1st discovered in 2012,and in any case the total cost of Lapsett is way way above the small value of oil discovered .

You mention collapse of sugar industry but fail to say some of its woes are tied to Kidero - the NASA man widely held responsible for Mumias woes .And some of the chief accusers of looting and corruption were asked to go give concrete evidence to EACC they refused -cuz it was all for political mileage but with no supporting evidence.

You just mention one industry relocating but fail to highlight the many that've set base in Kenya.Daimler came in 2016,VW set up not too long ago,Hela clothing came in March 2017,many respected global hotel chains have opened shop,Volvo Trucks is opening an assembly plant in Mombasa and many other smaller firms have same plans.AVIC also set up their HQs here not bcuz of oil mind you.

You mention GDP not doubling and prices going up but you fail to say other factors like exchange rate went from 85 per $ to average 102 per $.In any case no country can lift its millions out of poverty in just 5yrs - even China with its massive growth of 10% for nearly 20yrs hasn'tbeen able to lift every Chinaman from poverty hence you see them trooping to settle in Africa.Real GDP growth has to go for long time in a sustained manner for you to see the dividends (has Ethiopia which is grows even faster managed to eliminated poverty?)

Lastly the debt rise has its visible effect - the roads ,power plants ,the massive rise in electrification rate ,the better hospital facilities (two specialised centeres in every county) the port dredging and capacity enhancement .the SGR ....all these are visible effects of debt rise and they'll have a knock on effect on GDP.

Now tell us with a straight face that living standards haven't improved and all these other factors don't have a net effect on the overall sitution? Lets not argue with emotions but let facts come naked with no skewed and selective way of looking at the big picture.

NairobiWalker said it in plain English with a list of common basic commodities that have witnessed price hikes since the last few years. He hasn't included fuel prices, rent amounts, transportation costs and school and medical fees, all of which have risen.
You see, you should understand how and when big macro infrastructure projects affect and effect micro economic change, and the former is not always neccesarily true of the latter. Policies that create jobs and put people at work for long, and food on people's plates, constantly, are what count. FYI, there has been a steady rise of youth unemployment and under employment, in spite of paper GDP growth.

My origins are in western kenya and i can assure you that sugar politics is a very sharp sword in those areas. That Kidero "ruined " Mumias sugar is a cheap lousy lie used by his detractors for political mileage. This isn't the place or time to discuss a man's career, but rest assured it was his successor who steered the ship aground. That being said, there is no sober debate on sugar issues in Kenya, and those voices who speak reason, never get heard. The feeling on the ground is that successive regimes have never helped the locals achieve prosperity by growing cane, by not using the levers of govt to do so. For example, govt turns a blind eye to the embezzlement of cess funds to fix roads in sugar zones, an unthinkable act in a tea growing zone. Also, govt doesn't show the same zeal in developing cane varieties via agric research institutions, that grows quicker and juicier than they do for crop varieties not grown in sugar zones. Most cane varieties in Kenya mature at 30+ months, FYI. In 2017, that's criminal!

Bifwoli:
Eish ,thats a very short sighted view my friend.Is the drought (and food shortages) ravaging parts of east africa ,Yemen and other places political also? How's a team laser focused on electioneering ,court cases on elections and nonstop politicking gonna actualize your aspirations when their key focus the last 5yrs has been their own aspirations of gaining/sharing power ? (i can tell you for a fact their manifesto is just an after thought) Tell me their legislative successes ,voter-centered projects to their name ,any serious livelihood-centered changes they sought and visions over their long careers in parliament

Bifwoli, you're just being economical with the truth.
First off, my observations and reality on the ground viz. corn shortage and higher food prices cannot be ignored. Month on month, they're rising. And now you think that's not something to discuss? The smart folks at kilimo house surely should have had contingency to mitigate the obvious impending shortage but they're not managing things ad hoc. Is that good governance. I have an engineer friend who's closely linked to the galana kulalu project and he tells me that there is alot of mismanagement in both technical and operations point of view. The project failed in its objective which was to plug maize shortages, and failed miserably. Now precious forex is enriching Zambian and Tanzanian farmers and traders. Is that not a fiasco? Ps: We live in a high tech age, just because your neighbors suffer shortages doesn't mean we should!

Second, i doubt if you have ever lived in the 90s era to appreciate some of the civil and basic rights like seeking legal redress for perceived and real breach of the same to rejoice in seeing leaders of the opposition engage in legal proceedings that baba Moi would have sent you to detention w/out trial for. I envy our democracy, and i love seeing people come out and practice their CONSTITUTIONAL rights, and not fall in the oh well! mediocrity that the masses have fallen into.

Third, the essence of a political party is to have a vehicle that you use to sell your ideas to the citizenry, in order to attain power. They are not responsible for development, the state is. But the state must actuate the policy and vision of the ruling party. As an opposition party, you don't have the levers of power, nor the purse strings, so you can't be responsible for any mess that the government makes. So they have to get into power first! Look at Nigeria for instance, the APC has failed dismally in correcting the mess of the PDP, their pre election "politicking "(please tell us your meaning of this word) notwithstanding. They simply rode a wave, but had no clue about what to do about it. I say without any equivocation that jubilee rode to power on anti ICC wave, but had no idea what to do with corruption and let's face it, they weren't so keen on devolution. The result is massive discontent in vast swathes of the country who feel left out. Yes, this is why NASA will always be there.

Fourth, i think you know very well that our parliament is a place where laws are made. That's the primary role of the legislature. By pressuring your MP to give you development, you drive the gears of corruption whereby bwan MP is forced to look for funds to help your project. Several MPs have had tonnes of projects in their constituencies, you just seem to fall into some bizarre trap that alot folks like falling into which is you start by making a false assertion then you repeat it ad infinitum till it begins to sound like the truth. And the falsity here being that not a single leader of the opposition has done anything worthwhile in their official /personal capacities to uplift Kenya /Kenyans.Gov Nanok for instance has done tremendous work in raising the pry school enrollment of kids in turkana nearly 100% fold since his ascent. The govt leaning press will not allow you to hear this, lest they destroy the carefully crafted narrative that says opposition hawana maendeleo.

Fifth, mega projects tend to have a booster effect on the macro economy within the medium and long term. In the short term, they obviously boost the local economy for the duration of a project, but how they lift people in the immediate vicinity is mostly a heart rending story. Did you know most people living near Masinga dam, sondu miriu hydro tunnel etc have no electricity but my comfy butt in Nairobi does?

More later.

TayserMahiri:
The supply is the issue. I think the govt did its best to subsidize. NASA was about to pounce on the opportunity

Jubilee supporters make the amusing suggestion that the rise in food prices over the past few years should not be "politicized ". Food and anything that enters my stomach will always be political. There is a complete lack of serious debate on this issue, and the rise of unga ugali from 85 to 160 in a very short time is indeed alarming by any argument. Waangalie hiyo mambo. Galana kulalu ilikufa sababu ma tenderpreneurs walidhani large scale commercial farming ni chekechea, na waliwaste fursa. Yields zilikuwa down, na organization yao mbofu, usiseme. I know someone who follows the project closely who told me the real reason mahindi shortage is in Kenya.

kikuyu1 , i think its false and misleading to suggest that it would be a disaster if the opposition came to power. They have huge swathes of support across the country, and many see the actualization of their aspirations through them. They legitimately represent alot of people, so I can't see the danger they pose, unless they're fascists or some other -ists, of which they're not.

Wish everyone a peaceful election period, elect your choice and do your part to build Kenya. Amen.

Originalsly:
NYC.... inside Fairway Supermarket... not a big eater nor get all excited and be drooling on the sight or scent of food.. but damn these cheeses... and she be giving samples too?...never knew they had this much variety of cheese!..and the lady is an expert.. she can tell about the differences. ..think she is a ehmmm ...cheeseologist. Bought some Etorki cheese. ... soooo good!... but damn... the price!

No prices are fair. Most in the 3.50 to 5.00 $ range. Believe me, it's a bargain!

I have been here, yes this is Windhoek. However, as some of you may/ not know Namibia has alot of inequality along racial lines. Most whites are of German and Boer extraction and completely loathe blacks. They treat blacks like crap there and follow you around in department stores, give you 'the look ' at certain bars and restaurants patronised almost fully by whites, some even refuse service or ask you to pay upfront on account of your skin colour! Imagine, in Africa! The whites also still own most of the fertile land they stole from Africans during colonial period and means of production. Some say the movement to correct these imbalances is weak and needs a Robert Mugabe type of leader who doesn't give a hoot about any whining whitey!
Nice people, i wish them well

alexxo11:
miezi mbili hata haijapita,....hawa watu itabaki wameanza kunyeshewa sasa ...

Mtaa upi, jiji gani?

Folafikemi:
I hate it each time I hear such statement like hate for Nigerians in diaspora, you ain't holy either. Nigerians got all it takes to excel within and without their country of origin and I guess dat is wat d hate is all about.

As much as I don't support criminal actions amongst Nigerians in diaspora but pls don't name us a criminal or barbaric as u said cos u people are worse off even within ur country.

An average Nigerian only hear about Kenya on news for bad reasons, either rape, or man stuck in a woman while having unholy affair and d likes.

Note dat ur country is no superior one to Nigeria in anyway. The fact is our economy bleeds right now and everyone only need a succour somewhere else.

With or without recession Nigeria will always Lead African countries anyways... no hate pls

Oga,
If your country has loads of people who have what it takes to succeed in and out, why is your country so very... how do I put this delicately....... unexcellent?

FYI, i joined nairaland to counter this perversity about Kenya, esp the stuuupid and daft sex related stories and a not so subtle attempt by forces seen and unseen to portray us as some latter day Sodom and Gomorrah. It is precisely this kind of messaging on nairaland that leads some of your less talented countrymen to think that they shall land at the tarmac of the airport and find people bonking away. The same mindset that leads a man to think he can detain an innocent girl and gang rape her in a flat after drugging her drink. What is it about nigerians and crime? Go anywhere in the world and you find very healthy and robust Nigerian inmate compliment. Why is this?

Finally, work on your attitude. Arrogance is a disease every bit as bad as Ebola. Contagious and disgusting, but very unmistakable in its final outcome. Since when does an average african citizen in any country think he is worse off than an average Nigerian? Travel to some better off african nations like Botswana, Namibia.... heck even an average Swazi is waaay better off than an average Nigerian, i kid you not.

claremont:
In your honest opinion, how do Kenyans view Nigerians (educated and uneducated) living in Kenya?! The point I'm trying to arrive at is if Kenyans generally view Nigerians living in Kenya as criminals, drug dealers, rapists e.t.c? The reason I'm asking is because it seems to be a trend that the inglorious reputation of Nigerians precedes us, such that honest Nigerians are tarred using the same dishonest brush.

I believe you have pretty much answered your question. Not good, at all.

alexxo11:
what he is saying is that we kenyans are slowly getting tired of most of these uneducated nigerians who were coming to our country.The other day ,from work , in a train heading to syokimau(where i live) there were some nigerians talking loudly in their mother tongue and laughing like idiots....people were so mad they were almost thrown out.All in all there is a slow but sure hate brewing among kenyans for most nigerians here....Not that we hate foreigners but most nigerians are just barbaric.Last week in a place called langata in nairobi a nigerian invited a kenyan girl to his house ,tapped her drink ,and then he and his friends raped her while she was unconscious.little did they know that the girl was the daughter of a senior police man.so after three days of tracking the phone they located the house and stormed it and actually found a nigerian in the act!!!the girl was raped for three days!!!nyhu all the 5 nigerians were stripped naked and boarded into a van never to be seen again!Im sure there somewhere buried with bullets on their heads....Point is when you come to kenya please be on the right side of the law...I really dont understand why its sooo hard for most nigerians to behave like humans.

My Gooood! Lord help us all, but these are the kind of things that drive a permanent wedge between people. We have historical and longstanding communities from other African countries. The Ugandans and Tanzanians are the most prominent, they just blend in and kenyanize over the generations. Nigerians and Congolese share a trait for the bizarre. When kenyans get fed up they can be pretty violent and unpredictable. I have a number of nieces who are of the dating age and i tell them to rather date a broke kenyan boy than a foreigner with secret fetishes who wouldn't bat an eyelid to sacrifice her to a strange wooden god i? order to get rich or famous. Am so shocked to read this, ilifanyika when?

BedLam:
This is a lie from the dungeon. These people that factor in these stats don't know there's​ a great rift in terms of human development between" Southern and Northern " Nigeria.

Life expectancy is relatively higher in the South compared to North. How do they put that together ?

Perhaps you are in possession of a chart that breaks it down south vs north . The rest of the world knows only Nigeria.

Statistics bro, are like a bikini, they hide more than they reveal!! And they hardly ever lie!!

arinzeejikonye:
All glory to the most high, yahweh


On this day I was born!
Today, I was called arinze

These are cribs for above average earners, show us some of the ones for people in the middle bracket living in festac town and the equivalent. I wish you one more year of added wisdom, dedicate it to God.

Jay254:
They want to see it on music Videos to believe...

Btw do you know most Tanzanians can nolonger speak there mother tongue due to Swahili.

They are very proud of killing indigenous languages in the name of national unity. Go through this thread and you'll get a heartattack reading some of the comments
https://www.jamiiforums.com/threads/kiswahili-kimeua-lugha-za-asili-za-watanzania-kimya-kimya.1271164/

Actually it's a reminder that there are other African countries with very serious ambitions. Some pipu get bad belle when they see development, others enjoy it. It's a medicinal thread.

Nabhani:
You have to look at Swahili people like Dominicans, a group of people who are a mixture of Africans, Natives & Europeans. Some Dominicans identify with their African roots whilst others identify more with their European or native roots but at the end of the day they're all Dominicans.
So, let's take Mombasa for example, you have the Twelve Tribes (Native Swahilis), Swahilized Africans & Swahilized Arabs. Naturally the Arab Swahili will identify more with Arabia then a Swahili Pokomo-Kenyan but they're both Swahili connected by their mother tongue language, culture and beliefs.

That was the simple lazy breakdown but the Swahili coast is a little more intricate than that.

I'm a Swahili from Tanzania and what I have noticed is the Kenyan Swahilis have a more well defined Swahili identity than the Tanzanian ones, I think they might be more Arabized as well but I'm rambling

Karibu ndugu. I have a new perspective on swahili people now. Dominicans also tend to downplay their African roots too.

It also goes without saying that the native speakers of any language speak it best. In Kenya too, as elsewhere, one can tell where another is from by the accent they use. Our "beef" with some people on this thread is when they want to disassociate Kenya and the origins of Swahili when it is known that two major dialects of kiswahili namely kiamu and kimvita are native to Lamu and Mombasa, which are squarely in Kenya.

I went through your posts and saw you included a dialect called chimiini. Where is it from?

genieluv direct all your inquiries about Swahili culture and language direct to this brother.

genieluv:
U really have a good point here. Buh in the last MTV africa awards, some north african musics/artistes were nominated n i think one of them won an award buh you see, they do not even show up for these awards.

****North africans n horn africans really do not fancy the idea of mixing with other black africans, they are so much used to living in seclusion n isolation, and it seems like they love it that way.

Holly you cannot expect mtv to give awards to african entertainers who have no fan base across africa while there are hot trending music with fans across everywhere waiting eagerly for their celebs to be awarded. It just cannot work that way.

My point is pretty much the same : Africa is not a monolith, culturally musically and in so many other ways, so who says that an American music channel decides who is best in Africa?

Hati13:
Colonialism and your violent struggle for independence.

There is an article about it in Grade 10 and 12 History books.

Is there any article of Ethiopia history in your history books?

most kenyan school kids leave school only knowing about Menelik and battle of Adwa. I once was arguing with a fellow kenyan that Christianity and islam have been in Ethiopia for more than 1500 years and he thought I was lying! Many don't even know that the Ethiopian highlands are larger than the Kenyan highlands, some even think all of Ethiopia is a big desert! Many kenyans and indeed many africans at large aren't knowledgeable about each other. The curriculum is designed to keep you away from the true history. I have personally taught myself alot about African history by my own efforts.

ednited:
famous ET songs


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PsfVYQ8zd4M




https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bzY5nrK9iKg&itct=CAcQpDAYBiITCOTGybryy9QCFcykVQodGiMGEzIHcmVsYXRlZEiD7835kKz14z4%3D&gl=US&hl=en&client=mv-google

Nice song, i don't have to understand Amharic to enjoy it, i only have to understand music.
I noticed something with all ethio music videos i have ever seen : the dancing by shaking the shoulder thingy. Very unique to the horn. And of course, coffee and Ethiopians, never far from each other!
If you ask me, and am not a music guru, there is also a different baseline and beat unique to Ethiopia. This leads me to the question : These MTV best African music awards should be considered a sham because African music is soo diverse in every ramification, who does these awards serve and for what purpose?

Terrible!

Nowenuse:
Why do you guys always evade questions with questions whenever you are squared at a tight corner? Shamelesness!
Same thing MtuMsuper did.

freshest4live, come and see the owners of swahili language which these black-assed Kenyans have been running here with lies about!

Jay254 and Nairobiwalker. Can you guys explain how Bantu these swahili people and culture look?? How Bantu is Taraab music? or do you people think you are talking to fools?

And what is there to note about their "looks "? Who told you Bantus all look alike? Dude, get out your LGA and travel Africa if you want to be taken seriously. I mean all regions of Africa.

Nowenuse:
I understand you very well, but why the change from the name Ngozi to Swahili?

Can you also agree with me, that if not for the arrival of the middle-easterners, the swahili language wouldn't have spread across east africa?

You are really trying so hard to downplay the great influence of the arabs & persians on swahili evolution which is wrong.
Swahili cultures and peoples as we see today are far more middle-eastern in outlook and composition than they are Bantu. Or would you deny this?

Your approach is very minimalist and quite frankly condescending. Have you ever socialized with a kenyan from that part for you to make that conclusion? What is your source? K24 TV, google or nairaland comments?

obaaderemi:
I didn't even know Ethiopian economy has overtaken Kenya's.That must be a recent thing.That country is very arid and what other brands do you have besides kQ?

You can be a good sport and go through this thread and discover kenyan brands with major regional presence. Also, i see you know very little about the geography of Africa. Hati13 will give you a brief description and maybe photos of how ethiopia looks like. Ayam tired of this thread ooo

obaaderemi:
No,you shouldn't.Amharic also has many speakers and if you look at it,Ethiopia is also coming up in terms of economic relevance in East Africa.Kenya's economy is only slightly bigger and it is even poised to take over soon.And although this may be difficult to accept,what holds the economies of the African nations together in terms of language are still the European languages.

For all the news you hear about the size of the Ethiopian economy being larger, it is only in absolute terms. They have
1. a population twice ours.
2. Economy is almost exclusively state controlled i e a command economy,
3.has no weight beyond her borders (Ethiopia only has one recognized national brand champion viz Ethiopia airways ).
4. A less open society and hence what you receive as info is govt issue knowledge that cannot be peer reviewed.
5. A far far less robust stock exchange than Kenya's.

Contrast that with kenyan firms and brands in the wider east Africa region and you quickly see the wide chasm between the two. Our more democratic system allows for informed debate on economic figures released by govt. Oga, Kenya is the EA dominant force, your dislike of us notwithstanding. y

ArtanK:
I've got close family from Somaliland and they've repeatedly said that a proper reconciliation between all parties is enough for them to abandon their quest for secession. All it takes is the right approach and this current regime looks like it will kick-start the initiative.

Even if the talks reveal that they're adamant and won't budge on seceding from Somalia, it would be nice to see another stable Somali country in the horn, aside from Djibouti, Ethiopia and Kenya.

I wish the day will come when we have a stable Somalia where progress is the norm. But let's face it : as presently constituted it cannot be considered a functional entity. Alot of work goes into creating a nation state that isn't present in Somalia as i write this. Think of creating a civil service, an education system, utilities, a banking sector, an administrative superstructure, a judiciary, disciplined forces, transportation and communication network, and a unified and recognised authority throughput the entire geography of the country. Just to mention a few. All these sorely lacking in today's Somalia.
Wishing you the best because a stable and prosperous somalia is a boost to all its neighbours.

Nowenuse:
The analogical difference here is that English never evolved due to intterracial mixing and contact but swahili did. It's not like swahili was already existing before the contact of the Bantus with the arabs & persians. No, it wasn't!

Nobody is arguing the location of the birthplace of swahili, what we are saying is that swahili would never have come to exists if not for arab, persian & indian contact (foreigners) with the Bantu locals.

Wrong on both counts. English was and is a very complex language that has undergone immense grammatical mutation from French, Danish,Old Norse and Latin . Words for personal pronouns like them, theirs are from Danish and common conjugation vary very much from the original language of the tribes that invaded England.This is why English is so difficult to master, there is no general trends, you just have to master it as you go. Its grammar is incredibly difficult and the verb conjugation is crazy. Kiswahili in its structure and syntax is Bantu. And it's been standardized and has few deviations from the established nirm in forming verb forms .Period. It has a lot of borrowed words esp those pertaining to religion and objects not found in Africa.

The native tribes who wandered into the East African coast during the migration periods were a group whose languages were so closely related they had no difficulty understanding each other. In fact they had begun a process of banding together to form a larger group and began to call themselves waNgozi and their language kiNgozi. As a mater of fact, the more old school folks among native waSwahili call the language kiNgozi. Some others preferred to band together under a different banner and called themselves the MijiKenda. In fact the mijikenda dialects are so close to kiswahili, most foreigners can't tell them apart. The middle east traders who came had to adapt and spoke kiNgozi. They brought new words and ideas(Islam).

Before the middle eastern traders landed on the shores of East Africa the people they found were itinerant and in the process of ethnogenesis. They just jumped into the mix. As time went on their trade caravans spread throughout the East African interior and since Swahili traders were the main source of foreign goods, many interior peoples interracted with them in their language. That's how Swahili grew, as a language of trade, much like Malay was the language of trade in the East Indies. Long before the colonial era.
Fact check.

While we are busy measuring d!cks, i just visited the facebook page of the association of nigerian women in Kenya. They doing some good social work. It seems there is a sizeable community

freshest4live:
So where was it from, wikepedia says otherwise.

Wikipedia is not a source but a guide, and not always a good one. Remember that.

freshest4live:
Arab and English, are they Originally African? So why are you proud of it? At least our pidgin has Yoruba, Hausa and Igbo embedded. My question is what country did it originate from?

Stop your charade oga, kiswahili is an African tongue. Show me a language with 100% pure words. Have you ever opened a dictionary on Australian English and seen words like boomerang, dingo and the different meaning of the word "station ". The birth place of kiswahili is the East African coast stretching from Lamu in Kenya to Sofala in Mozambique, with all the islands in between included. Does this answer you?