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Hati13:
Thanks for the correction and info. Is the boundary road you are talking about the one that was built by Romans?

not sure who built it. Perhaps wikipedia can help

TayserMahiri:
What was the problem with the NGO? These guys drive me nuts

many of them thrive on human misery to justify their existence. They also presume to play roles that govt should be playing. Crooks work with each other.

Hati13:
To correct you, Vikings never succeeded in invading Britain. Like you said, Britain was first inhabited by different Celtic tribes. After the Romans left Britain, different Germanic tribes, mainly Angels and Saxons invaded Britain and mixed with some of the locals Celtic tribs. Again in 11 century, Normans(mixed people of Vikings and local population around present day Normandy coast in northern France) invaded Britain and mixed with the local Britains, which created modern day English. Like you said, Welshs and Scottish are predominantly Celtic than Germanic.

I beg to differ. There is a very long road in England called Watling Street. This street was a boundary set by the kings of the southern part of England to stop any Dane (Viking ) from crossing south of it on pain of death. North of it were very many Danish settlements in England. They had been invading so long they set up Danes only villages and lived with the local saxons there. But none was allowed south of this line which was called the Danelaw. In fact its so interesting, all names of towns north of this wall end in -by. So think of any English town with the name ending in -by like Rugby, Derby or names like Kirkby and you had a Danish ancestor! The Vikings founded Dublin and yes, the Normans were merely frenchified Vikings. They simply got tired of killing and settled and assimilated. Don't forget the Viking Rus tribe founded Russia. These fellas were just badass!

no nonsense man. Which SA channel is it on?

Muafrika2:
How come am just hearing of this..

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mwale_Medical_and_Technology_City

Mwale is very famous, a good example of what diasporan kenyans should be doing. I think sometimes diasporan kenyans come up with fantastic plans but some of us home based ones don't like the idea of being outshined by the accented ones. Ask me, i know. My cousin who is a US medic wanted to come home and run a free camp incl cleft lip surgery. Nakwambia the red tape yenye aliwekewa na gava and an unnamed western NGO was shocking. Yaani a son of the soil who went to majuu being frustrated by his own countrymen. Hizi wivu ndogo ndogo tunazo are so stifling, one unnamed governor wanted to agree so long as he took the credit. nkt!

I have been to all SA provinces except N Cape. Even been to Lesotho and Swaziland. But the news from Kuruman is quite disturbing. Why are Nigerians going that far to sell their brown or white powder. I thought its urbanites who tend to do this thing worldwide. And i can never defend its consumption production or distribution just in case you wanna know where I stand. I mean Kuruman is a quiet sleepy town with not much drama, why take brown or white powder there? If i were a SAn I would be justifiably mad as hell that my serene and quiet town has been invaded by druggies!

kikuyu1:
Sun Weidong found that ancient Chinese and Egyptian bronzes were chemically identical leading to the only obvious conclusion.

[img]http://i1.rgstatic.net/ii/profile.image/AS%3A272404320616456@1441957659462_l/Weidong_Sun.png[/img]

He also studied ancient Chinese Xia dynasty records and found

http://foreignpolicy.com/2016/09/02/did-chinese-civilization-come-from-ancient-egypt-archeological-debate-at-heart-of-china-national-identity/
I've always known definite linguistic and craniometric evidence of Africans in early Asia but to my knowledge this is the first time its in the MSM even if not BBC/CNN/Al Jazeera. Also the thesis suggests a direct movement of Egyptians to China not a slow gradual overland migration as would be expected;they knew where they were going.
Fyi he was forced to sit on his findings for 20 years! What else are they hiding? Imo,it doesn't matter the truth will always out.

Fascinating ! I think this practice of trying to infuse revolutionary thinking and sloganeering into a purely scientific endeavor should stop. I speculate that the Chinese authorities are afraid of the findings of this research will upset their carefully crafted narrative about Chinese origins.
ArtanK, prior to the Viking invasion of Britain, the invading Angles, Saxons and other north German tribes were the dominant force in much of England. The native Celtic tribes were already squeezed back into Wales and Scotland, and were the most dominant group on the British isles. The Romans had never managed to conquer Scotland, so it was a bastion of Gaelic culture. The Vikings and Normans became completely anglicized and lost their language and culture for good.

ednited:
I don't know

definitely not!! Wifi is also free in some public transports

ednited:
I had a South Sudanesse friend who've been to Nairobi and she told me that no one can rent their house with out having a wifi router in it. . .i just couldn't beleive it. How true is it?

very true in many parts of Nairobi. I was in eldoret city not too long ago and they also have lots of broadband customers. Same for Kisumu and Mombasa. An above average middle class family has broadband at just above 10$ per month. Can you get that in Juba?

Muafrika2:
True,

Kalenjins are so diverse. Imagine even Ogiek people are there, Pokots and Sabaot on mount Elgon. Even their culture are different.

Good you mentioned pokots. Can they ever change their (cattle rustling ) ways? Hiyo eneo yao iko na potenjo mbaya mbovu lakini wana pungufu ya elimu, exposure na ujajna. Kama wangetaka, wangekuwa no.1 suppliers wa nyama ndani ya KE, lakini zii ,wako na storo za kuiba tu mifugo na risasi. Nawaombeanga jo, nawapenda ila wana itikadi kali.

fanficgirl:
You mean the Chinese are on steroids in Angola. Honestly, I don't see how they are promising except for the Portuguese there.

My dear, why have you fallen into this trap where you ascribe all progress in another African country to non black people? Have you ever met intelligent and educated non Nigerian Africans in your life?

Oga Originalsly, i can't help myself to your thread. I have been following it on guest mode for the longest but no more! Oga, please, take us through a culinary trip of NYC, i have heard incredible tales about food in NYC. Tell us everything you possibly can. (I understand if some places esp elitist oyinbo ones are too expensive to patronise ). Thanks.

More pics

Abeg, this na train or eloplane, see "train hostess "
Computerized operations no fake train tickets.
See pipu plenty like fish, ah ah dis one na big surprise, mad tinz
see as pikin wan read text messages for his mama phone

Ya mon, a ting say.

As folks still yap yap yap all the way to yap heaven, tingz a gwan

Muafrika2:
42 tribes, not languages. Most tribes have several sub tribes which are languages in their own right.

Maras and Samia are at the complete opposite sides of understanding amogst luhyas. They struggle to understand each other, many a time they use swa to communicate, i have an example where i work where two of my colleagues are from both groups and they agree it's hard to understand the others dialect. I think they're therefore separate tribes. Some say the groups with several sub tribes emerged as a tribe during the colonial era for administrative purposes and for political purposes in forming KADU. . For example, before '52 all kalenjins were simply referred to as "Nandi" whereas there was a curious term called "Kavirondo" that grouped both luos and many of the luhya sub tribes. Agitation for separate identities and a need to form political parties actually created groups like kalenjin who have a similar dichotomy in spoken language between them as the luhyas do. Indeed many kale friends of mine tell me of how one innocent word in one dialect can be a complete insult in another. I think some languages within each subtribe have diverged sufficiently enough to become separate languages and hence tribes. It's like how Dutch and Afrikaans have evolved and developed separately to become different inspite of common origins.. I'd say the divergence of English from German would be a good example too.

Hati13:
When Ababa Bikila won that night, a famous Italian newspaper said the next day, "Mussolini sent millions of soldiers to invade Ethiopia, but Ethiopia only send one imperial bodyguard to conquer Rome".

Kenya has been dominating almost in every category of athletics for the past 4 years. We have shown a decline in those times. I'm confident you will also dominate the 2017 world championship. How is the preparation of Kenyan athletics team right now?

Sorry I'll be honest with you, but i don't follow their team news very closely.

Hati13:
Majority respect you. When I ask them, why aren't they fearing Kenyan athletes? They answer, "we only fear God" lol . I will say, that stupid God? They answer, "yes, that stupid God" lol. I'm kidding.

What about you guys? I hope you respect us because we were the first in winning many athletics medals. Ababa Bikila was the first black African to win Olympic Gold medal by running in BAREFOOT. Fatuma Roba was the first African woman to win Olympic Gold medal and many others so on on......

Ababa Bikila.

Of course we do! The respect for a rival and very good opponent in sports is the mark of a true man/ woman. In fact i think Abebe Bikila victory in Rome Olympics was very important to Ethiopia in the sense that he won a gold medal on the soil of a country that tried and failed to conquer his own. He stuck up his finger at the Italians and said to them "Hey, see what Ethiopians are made of, we even won the last medal, we don't need you guys !" As for individuals i think the great Haile Gebresilassie, Kenenisa Bekele and the Dibaba sisters have caused kenyan athletics the most heartache. I think both countries know that even if they get a great athlete, its the neighbor that will constantly remind them that they won't have it easy. The best way to train a kenyan athlete is to shout that an ethiopian is chasing him!

frisky2good:
Right hand drive truck in Nigeria?

Exactly, the lady is from Kenya even just by looking at her. The name gives her away too.

chie8:
No food for a lazy person.According to a FB user who shared the photos,the lady pictured below whose name is Lizz Bett drives truck to feed herself.What a strong woman!


Source: http://www.trezzyhelm.com/2017/06/meet-lady-who-drives-truck-to-feed.html

Op, at least you could acknowledge the true source and not a blog. One look at the name of the lady and i know she's a kenyan. In fact we have lots of women pilots and women train drivers in Kenya.
Tough country us..

Hati13:
Yeah they are excellent in that department. Are there any great non-Nilot Kenyan runners? Is Victor Weyama(sorry for the spelling) Niolt? I'm guessing you aren't Nilot. What is your ethnicity?

I hope we will beat you guys in the 2017 world championship. Let's hope.

Tell us, how do Ethiopians talk of kenya athletes? Do they fear us or respect us, or both?

mtis:
Opened my mail an bang am 2 million usd richer..
they even wrote it..Two Million United State Dollars Only

Beware of scammers, they have sent me tens of PMs. Usicheze na hawa wadhii, wameona fursa , usifungue wala kurespond

SmallSimba, am also a kenyan with quite sometime in Nairaland. I joined this forum mainly to listen to online debates and learn from other Africans. Among the things i know is that there is alot of ethnic violence in Nigeria. Just google "Southern Kaduna" or "Fulani herdsmen " on the nairaland search engine and you will be chastened by what we had to undergo in 2007 in comparison . The inter religious violence also has an ethnic twist to it, and a few weeks ago i asked my pastor who is my ex school mate to pray for the Christians of Nigeria. Along with countries like Sudan, Somalia, Pakistan, Saudi Arabia that are extremely intolerant of Christianity, Nigeria is the only Muslim majority country(the Muslim % is slightly over 50), not in the Middle East where Christians are regularly butchered for their faith.

You should also know that there is a nascent movement located in the south east of the country who are agitating for a break up of Nigeria and they call themselves IPOB. They want to reactuate the still born republic of biafra that was the cause of the Nigerian civil war. That war was very destructive and indeed was the bloodiest conflict ever on African soil at any time in history. The wounds of that war may have somewhat subsided, but inevitably there are always embers in the fire place itching for a rematch, sadly. This separatism infact is not confined to that section of Nigeria. Indeed there exist several other secessionist or regionalist movements across all regions like the guys who gave that ultimatum. Large countries tend to be like that - did you know for instance there exist Texas nationalists who want to break away from USA? You do recall the movement by Quebecois to break away from English speaking Canada and create their own French speaking wonderland in the early 2000s? So Nigerians are always on a knife edge with such elements in their population, its ever tense. Sometimes the utterances by important leaders there to other tribes can make one shudder, something that would make you be charged with hate speech ASAP in Kenya. The likes of Moses Kuria for example would be bridesmaids by comparison in Nigeria . Last election a traditional Oba or King of Lagos ordered all igbos to vote for the incumbent party in power or else drown in the Lagos lagoon! Imagine that!

That being said, i pray for peace and prosperity for all afrikans everywhere. The major problem i think in Nigeria is lack of a leader who can forge a bond between her peoples so that nobody feels left out. A Mandela or George Washington type national leader is sorely lacking. From my vantage point, which i confess is not a solid one being electronic media and internet influenced and not practical, i see Buhari not being truly on top of the unifying game. Even Goodluck and Obasanjo had major headaches trying to satisfy the nations competing regional factions. In this regard, its very much like India. If you ever asked me which leader of a large nation i admire most, i would say Vladimir Putin without hesitation. Why? The man has forged a nation under a firm but fair grip. Russians love him like no business. Even his critics concede he is the best devil available to lead the nation. Russians don't like sissified leaders like Yeltsin who made Russia look weak. Putin's rise put an end to sissified leaders and restored the historical image of a tough but fair leader that made Russia great again.

I think Nigeria needs a Putin.

obaaderemi:
I still can't understand why you Kenyans get hot under the collar when someone points out your flaws.If you go back to my original post which you rushed to quote,I said neither nigeria nor kenya is an example of a great society.So which log are you talking about?Everything your goons have accused Nigeria of here is present in your 'El dorado' and yet no honest kenyan has admitted it.Thank you for no longer arguing that your refinery is operational.And yes it was owned by foreigners,the kenyan govt did not hold a single share until 1971.And when the Indians pulled out their 50% the refinery died.Is that a lie?Check the link I gave you on kQ,heck!it's no secret,klm had 26% and kenyan govt had 23% [/b]until they got more and they are still getting more(thanks fidha).[b]Pride is the only thing keeping kQ in the air but kudos if they can solve its debt prob.

KQ is publicly listed company. Its ownership right down to the last cent is known. No secrets. Acquaint yourself with the companies act of Kenya to understand that major shareholders above a certain % are known by the public by name or organization.
Sha, e pain you ooo to see KQ flying. In case you didn't know there has been a turnaround plan in motion for some years now and KQ is clawing back. Its operations and flight routes have suffered little or no losses. The previous management were the sort of crooks who would end up behind bars in more serious western nations. Alas, their crimes were smothered and hidden by the political elites.

obaaderemi:
That would be nice as long as they don't attempt to run it.Obasanjo angrilly and stylishly grounded Nigeria Airways when it was having the same problem of heavy indebtedness as kQ faces.Many have not forgiven obj for that.Africans appear quite poor at managing public enterprises.

Bro, it really really pains you to see Kenya flying an airline, don't it?
FYI, as for Africans running public utilities speak 4 your self /own country. Some African countries have well run public utilities and enterprises.

Hbuyosh:
It is a stark irony, that they should brag how Nigeria is such a major foreign investments hub, yet mock other countries' economies as foreign controlled on account of the foreign investors owning shares in the local companies.

I know he didnt realize that ordinary Kenyans own shares at the companies like Kenya Airways, he must have assumed that it is only by the the Klm, the external investor, and the govt.

Am going to be a good boy too and will not post links about how foreign oil companies collude with unpatriotic Nigerians and siphon or under declare crude oil sales in the high seas. I will also spare people the links showing how the FG doesn't even have a system to know how much crude is being sold, relying almost solely on what foreign oilcos decide to declare. The mood here is now merry, so i won't be a wet blanket.

Hati13:
Why wait 4 years if diesel is much expensive than electricity?

The project is not even complete yet. As we are right now, the project is just about 1/3 of the way done, it shall stretch all the way to Kisumu. The electricity roll out is just a later event in a staggered process. First of all transmission lines are damn expensive, almost as expensive as the steel tracks, and besides its important that the line have it's own dedicated supply. Then the govt budget priority for the lines will be at least 3-4 years away. Diesel engines are the norm, even some super fast trains have back up diesel engines.

Hbuyosh:
But KPRL is a Kenyan govt owned Corp., the Indian owned company, Essar bought 50% shares in 2009, while the govt owned the rest of the shares.
I hate this baseless insinuation that everuthing in Kenya is foreign owned. Having foreign investors in the country doesnt mean that they run the country.

http://www.kprl.co.ke/profile.php

On Kenya Airways, KLM has never ever been the majority shareholder in that company. Show me in thst article where that is even stated.

Klm is the minority shareholder, the govt owns about 30% of the company while the the local investors, the private citizens like u and me, own the rest. The company is listed in the bourse.

While u were stating that the Klm used to own the majority shares till the govt "built its share up" to 29% (how?), did u wonder who owns the remaining 45% shares?

So, Kenya, as a country, owns the company by 74%!

He doesn't want to hear that part where chama mamas and duka shopkeepers in Kenya own 30%. He doesn't understand composite ownership of assets and liabilities, and how that spreads risks and increases accountability and profits including doing things like reporting your annual balance sheet in the local dailies. If you only knew how the percentages that major auto makers in Japan own each other, you would shut up!

Jay254:
This one killed me today. Guys please watch it

3:00
Keeping it Real With Adeola Kenya's $3.2 Billion Train Project Beats Nigerian's ...
YouTube - 2 days ago

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://m.youtube.com/watch%3Fv%3DWSjyQijZ9Gw&ved=0ahUKEwjZ99-igK_UAhXEcRQKHf_rDqUQwqsBCCIwAQ&usg=AFQjCNFGh4YA-Ue83Wg48G-pzdRDi7i7lQ&sig2=WYW2BFQWzxqPNL234wPqqg

An architect friend told me that his major quarrel with the stations was that they should have been a major input by kenyan architects in the design. There is so much that could have been done in regards to the sharp features and industrial looks. I mean for once, even African themed and oriented designs would have been ideal, but i guess contracts are contracts. I never miss Adeola's rants, she is just one hilarious lady.

Hati13, the trains will switch to electricity after 4 years, but for now they have to run on diesel. The transmission lines to run these trains can be almost as expensive as the whole train project itself, if not more. Good to have internet back in Ethiopia, let's help anglophone Cameroonians get theirs back too by following the Twitter hashtag #BringOurInternetBack. Am sick of African dictators! Shikena!

freshest4live:
Lol, it all depends on your outlook, but there is money in Nigeria much more than Kenya. In another thread there is a southafrican lady thinking of relocating to Lagos to settle and work. Dunno if l've answered you though.

Nope. Hbuyosh i think it was that gave us a story of a Nigerian man who came over to do small time hustle in Nairobi selling chapatis. There is no kenyan living in Nigeria who has contributed to this thread, only one or two who have travelled there before. Are kenyans or South Africans trooping in their thousands to 9ja? If i came to open a business would i end up frustrated by red tape and corruption? Sell me nigeria is what am asking you.