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Thats so funny, bros. Girls, wahala at times!

Hmm, I shall never get angry with you, for I figure-out that almost what you are saying is coming out from your ignorance or rather silly failure to capture the meaning of what I was saying. And I damned well know non of you understand the language (English) more than the native speaker. Native speakers understand the hell I was saying (on other board), thus think of why can't you? And irony.

Maybe if I'm taken to rehab house then you certainly need to be taken to asylum as soon as possible. LOL

Real sorry for you too!

smooooooth:
i can see good schools are developing in mushin. congrats!

LOL You need to say more than that, bos.

Hello everyone!

Its very interesting reading all your comments. Thanks so much. May God bless.

Yet, reading these replies, although interesting but slightly frightened and surprising. I never knew and never had imagined a simple and plain piece of writing like this would be misunderstood like this. I had been proud of you that *lots* of guys up here do write margically, almost morethan other fora members I have registed with. But, oh my my! Oh my lord! What a 'harakiri'!

To let you know; I swear with God almighty, same topic, same words, same everything has been extensively discussed in another forum, which more than 90% of its members are either English, Americans, Canadian and other white colored people who speak the language either as MT or L1 (and as well as L2). Oh my good nairalanders! Why can't you!

More so, lets assumed I talked/wrote in an encrypted code, you should have, by now, the technicalities of breaking and decoding the code and deciphering the hidden meaning.

Any way, a friend of mine has said it all. Maybe it was because of my username, or the location I write I'm living in or other things like. That could yes be the reason of rather taking my piece in such a disdain. I reckong that was just a conjucture. But let us see.

Thanks.

Help! Help!! Help!!!

It’s really pathetic, and absolutely obnoxious. Life has perfectly changed, almost always thinking ways to praise a single shameless, dependent, and insatiable figure.

Since we happened to be in the same college, uncharitable Charity bewitched me, yes! Bewitched by beauty. Eventually, any task you know in school, Charity does none, not once but always. Who is doing it for her? I of course.

I am please in need of help. Charity is a girl with unspeakable unsentimental attitude, and untrammelled insatiable nature. Come for rescue, I wanna be extricated.

Consequently, I had had tried and tried relentlessly before, but all these trials effect to that humongous catastrophe was that of shouting, yelling or wailing to the house set on fire. Every now and then, tongue of that fire would shoot up almost sky-high. I wanna you my people tell me the numbers I should use to call Fire Service Men, so as to bring the fire under control.

-Good Hopes.

I am a woman and I have a lot of money that I inherited. I am spending on my house, food, college fees and arranging marriages for my children. My husband is a police officer, but his salary is not enough for us to live comfortably without any financial difficulties. I put all my inheritance in the bank and we are living on the interest. Is the way I am spending it counted as zakaah or do I have to pay zakaah too? How much is the zakaah on the interest or the capital?.

Praise be to Allaah.

1 – Putting money in riba-based banks and taking the riba (which is called “interest”) is haraam and is a major sin.

The scholars of the Standing Committee said:

Firstly:

The profits which the bank pays to depositors on the sums of money that they deposit in the bank is regarded as riba (usury, interest) and it is not permissible for him to benefit from these profits. He has to repent to Allaah from depositing money in riba-based banks, and withdraw the money he deposited and the interest. He should then keep the capital and spend the interest on charitable causes to help the poor and needy, to provide facilities and so on.

Secondly:

He should look for a way that avoids dealing in riba, even if it is investing in a store, and put his money there as a mudaarabah transaction, on the basis that he will have a set share of the profits, such as one-third, or he should put the money there for safekeeping, without getting any interest.

Fataawa Islamiyyah, 2/404

What is meant by mudaarabah (silent partnership or limited partnership) is when two people cooperate, one by contributing money and the other by doing the work, and the profits are shared between them according to whatever agreement they reached.

Shaykh ‘Abd al-‘Azeez ibn Baaz (may Allaah have mercy on him) said:

Undoubtedly dealing with banks that deal with riba is not permissible, because that is helping them in sin and transgression. Allaah says (interpretation of the meaning):

“Help you one another in Al‑Birr and At‑Taqwa (virtue, righteousness and piety); but do not help one another in sin and transgression”

[al-Maa'idah 5:2]

And it was proven that the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) cursed the one who consumes riba, the one who pays it, the one who records it and the two who witness it, and he said, “They are all the same.” This was narrated by Muslim in his Saheeh.

With regard to putting money in riba-based banks with a monthly or annual interest payment, this also comes under the heading of riba which is haraam, according to scholarly consensus. As for putting it in the bank without interest, in order to be on the safe side it is better not to do that except in case of necessity if the bank deals with riba, because putting money in the bank, even if you do not take interest, is still helping them to do riba-based transactions, so there is the fear that the one who does this will come under the same heading as those who cooperate in sin and transgression, even if that is not what he intended. So we must beware of that which Allaah has forbidden and look for the right way to keep our money and dispose of it. May Allaah help the Muslims to do that which will lead to their happiness and glory and success. May He make it easy for them to quickly establish Islamic banks that are free from riba-based transactions, for He is able to do that. May Allaah send blessings upon our Prophet Muhammad and his family and companions.

Fataawa Ibn Baaz, 4/30, 31

2 – What a mother spends on her children does not count as zakaah, because if a father is unable to spend on his children, the duty to do so passes to the mother, if she has the means. Al-Mughni, 11/373

If the mother is obliged to spend on her children and they become independent of means because of this spending, then it is not permissible to give them zakaah.

3 – The money should be withdrawn from the riba-based bank quickly, and it is not permissible for you to benefit from any of the interest, rather you have to get rid of it by spending it in any charitable way. The interest that you took before is forgiven, if you took it because you were unaware of the Islamic ruling.

Shaykh ‘Abd-Allaah ibn Jibreen said:

You have to repent for the riba that you consumed that was given to you by the bank in the name of interest, but you do not have to dispose of it. Rather it is something that Allaah forgives, because He says (interpretation of the meaning):

“So whosoever receives an admonition from his Lord and stops eating Ribaa, shall not be punished for the past; his case is for Allaah (to judge)”

[al-Baqarah 2:275]

If you take riba after that, then give it to those who deserve charity, whether they are relatives or strangers, so that you may be free of the sin of consuming riba.

Fataawa Islamiyyah, 2/406, 407

And Allaah knows best.

Hadeeth: “The most hated thing before Allaah is divorce”
What the source of the phrase “The most hated thing before Allaah is divorce”? Is it a hadeeth or what?.


Praise be to Allaah.

This hadeeth is narrated from the trustworthy narrator Mu’arrif ibn Waasil, from the trustworthy imam Muhaarib ibn Dathaar (d. 116 AH), who was one of the Taabi’een. But it came from Mu’arrif via two isnaads.

1 – A muttasil isnaad from Mu’arrif ibn Waasil, from Muhaarib, from Ibn ‘Umar (may Allaah be pleased with him) from the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him).

This was narrated by Muhammad ibn Khaalid al-Wahabi, from Mu’arrif, like this with an isnaad, as recorded by Abu Dawood (2178), and via al-Bayhaqi in al-Sunan al-Kubra (7/322), and Ibn ‘Adiy in al-Kaamil (6/2453).

2 – A mursal isnaad from Mu’arrif ibn Waasil, from Muhaarib ibn Dathaar, from the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him), without any mention of Ibn ‘Umar.

It was narrated thus by Ahmad ibn Yoonus, Yahya ibn Bakeer and Wakee’ ibn al-Jarraah,

As recorded by Abu Dawood in al-Sunan (2177), al-Bayhaqi in al-Sunan al-Kubra (7/322), Ibn Abi Shaybah in al-Musannaf (5/253); it was also mentioned by al-Sakhaawi in al-Maqaasid al-Hasanah (11), and al-Daaraqutni in al-‘Ilal (13/225).

When the muhaddithoon saw that those who narrated it via a mursal isnaad were more trustworthy and more numerous than those who narrated via a muttasil (connected) isnaad, they thought it more likely to be mursal, and mursal is one of the types of da’eef (weak) ahaadeeth. They stated that those who narrated it with a muttasil isnaad from Ibn ‘Umar from the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) were either mistaken or confused.

Ibn Abi Haatim said:

My father said: It is only Muhaarib, from the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him). Mursal. End quote.

Al-‘Ilal (1/431).

Al-Daaraqutni (may Allaah have mercy on him) said: It is more likely to be mursal. End quote.

Al-‘Ilal (13/225).

Al-Bayhaqi (may Allaah have mercy on him) said:

It is mursal. According to the report of Ibn Abi Shaybah from ‘Abd-Allaah ibn ‘Umar it is mawsool. End quote.

Al-Sunan al-Kubra (7/322).

Ibn ‘Abd al-Haadi (may Allaah have mercy on him) said of it being mursal: it is more likely the case. End quote.

Al-Muharrir fi’l-Hadeeth (1/567).

In al-Maqaasid al-Hasanah (p. 11), al-Sakhaari thought is more likely to be mursal. End quote.

Shaykh Ahmad Shaakir (may Allaah have mercy on him) said in ‘Umdat al-Tafseer (1/583): There is some doubt as to whether it is saheeh. End quote.

Al-Albaani said in Irwa’ al-Ghaleel (2040): To sum up: the hadeeth was narrated from Mu’arrif ibn Waasil by four trustworthy narrators: Muhammad ibn Khaalid al-Waahibi, Ahmad ibn Yoonus, Wakee’ ibn al-Jarraah and Yahya ibn Bakeer.

They differed concerning it. The first of them narrated it from Muhaarib ibn Dathaar from Ibn ‘Umar in a marfoo’ report (i.e., attributed to the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him)).The others said it was narrated from him from Muhaarib in a mursal report.

The one who has knowledge of hadeeth will not doubt that the narration of these men is more valid, because they are more numerous and had better memories. They are all among those whose hadeeth the two Shaykhs (al-Bukhaari and Muslim) narrated in al-Saheehayn. So it comes as no surprise that Ibn Abi Haatim narrated from his father that the hadeeth is most likely mursal, and that al-Daaraqutni suggested the same in al-‘Ilal, and al-Bayhaqi did likewise, as al-Haafiz said in al-Talkhees (3/205). al-Khattaabi said something similar and al-Mundhiri followed him in Mukhtasar al-Sunan (3/92): The well known view is that it is mursal. End quote.

The hadeeth has a corroborating report from Mu’aadh ibn Jabal (may Allaah be pleased with him), which was narrated by al-Daaraqutni in al-Sunan (4/35) and Ibn ‘Adiy in al-Kaamil (2/694), with the wording: “Allaah has not permitted anything more hated to Him than divorce.” And there are other versions, but its isnaad is da’eef jiddan (very weak) and it is not valid to be quoted as evidence.

But although it is most likely that the hadeeth cannot be soundly attributed to the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him), its meaning is sound.

Shaykh Ibn ‘Uthaymeen (may Allaah have mercy on him) said:

It is narrated that the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: “The most hated of permissible things to Allaah is divorce.” This hadeeth is not saheeh, but its meaning is sound: Allaah hates divorce, but He does not forbid it to His slaves, so as to make things easier for them. If there is a legitimate shar’i or regular reason for divorce, then it is permissible and depends on the likely outcome of keeping this woman as one's wife. If keeping her will lead to something that is contrary to sharee’ah which cannot be avoided except by divorcing her, such as if the woman is lacking in religious commitment or chastity, and the husband cannot set her straight, then in this case we say that it is better to divorce. But if there is no shar’i reason or ordinary reason, then it is better not to divorce, rather in that case divorce is makrooh. End quote.

Liqaa’aat al-baab il-Maftooh, no. 55, question no. 3

And Allaah knows best.

Thanks very much, olabowale. May Allah reward you handsomely.

Is it permissible to play football and participate in competitions, in which we collect money from all players, then we play three rounds, and then the money we collect is to be given as gifts to the winning team? Is this considered a sort of gambling? .


Praise be to Allaah.

Competitions – sporting or otherwise – in which competitors pay money then the winner takes all the money, or a prize is bought for him with it, are haraam, and it is not permissible for the Muslim to take part in them or to approve of them, or to help with them in any way. There is no exception from this prohibition except competitions which involve training for jihad for the sake of Allaah, or which encourage people to seek knowledge and refute the specious arguments of the mushrikeen and prove the falseness of their shirk.

Based on this, the kind of competition mentioned in the question is haraam, and it is a kind of gambling and betting which are haraam.

Al-Tirmidhi (1700), al-Nasaa’i (3585), Abu Dawood (2574) and Ibn Majaah (2878) narrated that the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: “There should be no (money) prizes for competitions except in archery, camel-racing and horse-racing.” Classed as saheeh by al-Albaani in Saheeh Abi Dawood.

These three are all skills used in jihad. Hence some scholars added to these three everything that helps in jihad and spreading Islam, such as competitions in (learning and memorizing) Qur’aan, hadeeth and fiqh, in which it is permissible to offer prizes.

Shaykh Sayyid Saabiq (may Allaah have mercy on him) said:

It is not permissible to bet in any case where money is offered by all, so that the one who wins will take all the bets, and if a person loses he will lose to his companions, because this comes under the heading of gambling, which is haraam. End quote from Fiqh al-Sunnah (3/373).

Shaykh Muhammad ibn ‘Uthaymeen (may Allaah have mercy on him) was asked:

We have noted recently that many young people form sports leagues for various games, either belonging to a club or at the local neighbourhood level. Each team pays a certain amount of money, and one of the teams does not pay anything, and the organizing team buys the cup and prizes, and the other teams play for these prizes. The winning team gets the cup and the other prizes are distributed to the first place winners and others. Please advise us, may Allaah reward you.

He replied:

If the prizes are given by someone who did not take part in the competition, such as someone who was not one of the competitors, if he pays a sum of money to the winner, then this does not come under the heading of gambling which is haraam.

But if the prize is given by each competing team, e.g. each team pays some money and it goes to the winning team, then this is gambling which is haraam, because Allaah says (interpretation of the meaning):

“O you who believe! Intoxicants (all kinds of alcoholic drinks), and gambling, and Al‑Ansaab (stone altars for sacrifices to idols etc) and Al‑Azlaam (arrows for seeking luck or decision) are an abomination of Shaytaan’s (Satan’s) handiwork. So avoid (strictly all) that (abomination) in order that you may be successful”

[al-Maa’idah 5:90]

Similarly, if there are three teams and two teams pay but one does not, and the prize is taken by the winning team, this is also haraam, because the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: “There should be no (money) prizes for competitions except in camel-racing, horse-racing and archery.” So the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) stated that giving prizes is not permissible except in these three cases, and that is because they are things that have to do with jihad for the sake of Allaah. And Allaah is the Source of strength. end quote.

Fataawa Islamiyyah (4/433).

And Allaah knows best.

You just want us to have fun up here, I understand, huh? Interesting stuff.

babs787:
Is this supposed to be in this section?

You know better than all of us, bos.

tamai:
Good response? who the hell do you think you are to pass judgement.
A 13 year old girl who is accused of illicit sex should be stoned to death?

God, i weep, not for islamic beliefs, but for YOU.

Ah? Its surprising that you are funnier than your friend. LOL

Why can't you understand a simple language? Did I talk in codes? Think even if it was you should have decoded it and got the gist of what I've been saying.

I never say that that girl should be stoned to death. BUT I said; had she commited the crime and as married or ex-married girl then she should be. With that am only widening the scope of the topic. BUT she didn't do that, as the report says. Then that action of killing her is unjustifiable and punishable. And I darned well know Allah, in his infinite mercy will not let them go unpunish, inshaAllah.

Am I out of that murky water?

Cayon:
SNAP OUT OF IT. [/b]  This is not medieval times. THIS IS THE 21ST CENTURY.   We are talking about value of and respect for human life.

And that changes along with changes of time? Funny, really funny. Religion is beyond that, at least Islam. Although I don't know yours.

tamai:
Its very obvious you are slowly going insane.

Good response.

KarmaMod:
where does the law say this?

Where does (all) the law(s) come from?

That was cool!!!

I wonder why I'm that misunderstood! Though, I partially attributed that to myself by writing very scantly. I feel sorry for myself for some of you have had already insulted me and called me by names. Thats life.

What I was actually saying is; that girl as at her age should not be stoned to death because she might be a virgin. BUT if the was not, then she commited what is called fornication. And pls tell me what you know as verdict of fornication--commiting unlawful sex by a married man or woman? Isn't it stoning to death?

Please fathom what one writes before coming up with 'hypotheses'.

Thanks.

Hurray! Obama makes history as the first black African-American
to lead that world greatest country of our time. Up Blacks! Cheers!

Mc Cain's inability to make it to White House is necessarily attributable to his tie with Bush. Americans and world populace in general think and even believe (that) he would just carry-on from where Bush is finishing, e.g his foriegn policy and host more. I feel sorry, really sorry for him. He appeared looking frail and pity when confessing and accepting his defeat by Obama.

Pope urged to admit common ground

By Robert Pigott
Religious Affairs Correspondent


When 138 senior Muslim scholars and clergy tried to establish the common ground between Islam and Christianity last year, they said the very peace of the world hung on the outcome.

On Tuesday, a high-ranking delegation is beginning a rare visit to Rome in an effort to persuade the Pope to endorse what they say are the shared origins and values of the world's two biggest religions.

Their letter, A Common Word, cited passages from the Koran which the scholars said showed that Christianity and Islam worship the same God, and require their respective followers to show each other particular friendship.

The document examined fundamental doctrine and stressed what it said were key similarities - such as the belief in one God and the requirement for believers to "love their neighbours as themselves".

Significantly the letter acknowledged that the Prophet Muhammad was told only the same truths that had already been revealed to Jewish and Christian prophets, including Jesus himself.

After a year using the Islamic principle of seeking consensus, the letter has developed into a "manifesto" and is backed by almost 300 leaders from Sunni, Shi'ite, Sufi and other Muslim traditions.

'Out of hand'

The initiative was welcomed promptly by several Christian leaders, including the Archbishop of Canterbury, Rowan Williams.

The Vatican has, however, responded more cautiously to the prospect of identifying common beliefs.

There has been renewed urgency among Muslim leaders to forge new bonds with Christians since the terrorist attacks of 11 September 2001.

A lecture by Pope Benedict quoting a 14th Century Byzantine emperor's accusation that Muhammad encouraged the use of violence in spreading Islam led to a furious reaction among Muslims and contributed to the sense of a widening gap between the religions.

The high-ranking delegation going to Rome includes the Grand Mufti of Bosnia, an Iranian Ayatollah, a Jordanian prince and British converts to Islam.


They are also aiming to work out practical measures for resolving crises in Muslim-Christian relations, such as the angry controversy that followed the publication of cartoons of the Prophet Muhammad in Denmark in 2006.

Dr Ibrahim Kalin, a Turkish scholar who will be among the Muslims who meet the Pope on Thursday, said the dispute about the cartoons showed how important it was to establish regular dialogue.

He said: "Things got out of hand very quickly. A line of communication is needed where we can issue a statement and mobilise resources as a pre-emptive act."

Some of those behind the Common Word initiative believe it has been too easy for radical or extremist Muslims to use the media to promote a distorted view of Islam. One of their principal aims is to create a body that can speak authoritatively for mainstream Islam.

'Agree to disagree'

Although the Pope can speak for about a billion Roman Catholics (roughly half of the world's Christian population), Islam has no central authority able to represent its 1.3 billion faithful.

Apart from practical mechanisms to cope with disagreements, the Pope's Muslim visitors are hoping for a measure of agreement on matters of fundamental belief, and for an exchange of reading-lists - each side providing the names of the books that most accurately describe their values and traditions.

They also want to extend the Christian-Muslim conversation to include that other Abrahamic religion, Judaism.

The Pope is on record as seeking dialogue with Muslims, and is reported to favour a franker, more robust, approach. He is likely to have his own priorities, including a discussion of religious freedom.


It is a sensitive issue, not least because some Muslim-majority countries forbid conversion, and oppress their Christian minorities.

Last month a formal meeting of Catholic bishops in Rome said the conversation should stress the need for equal rights for women. Some Islamic states - such as Saudi Arabia - limit women's rights.

Other awkward issues could include the need for democracy.

There is plenty that both sides are clear they cannot agree. Muslims regard Jesus as an important prophet, for example, but they do not believe he was crucified.

Another of the big differences between the religions centres on how God is understood.

Ibrahim Kalin says the Christian belief in Jesus as part of a divine trinity with God the Father and the Holy Spirit conflicts with Muslim doctrine.

"The Trinity is currently not accepted by Muslims as explaining the infinity and oneness of God," said Dr Kalin.

"We don't agree on that, so we shouldn't try to sink these differences into a warped theology, but talk to each other on the basis of agreeing to disagree."

Story from BBC NEWS:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/go/pr/fr/-/2/hi/uk_news/7706977.stm

Published: 2008/11/04 01:15:58 GMT

© BBC MMVIII

I'm truly a Muslim. And I do believe in everything thats in the religion, Shari'a included. Yet, I see nowhere where a 13 year old girl would be lawfully stoned to death. Although, the stroy is not that lucid to tell us either that girl was married before or not. If she was married and later (or eventually) captured having an illigitimate affair with another man, then yes, she should rightly be stoned to death. But, if she is not, they did utterly wrong. And I darned well know and believe Allah will not let their devilish action unpunish now or then (hereafter).

Oh, sorry Obama.

Am afraid of what I watched on CNN today. They were showing pictures, as they call it, of his roots. These contain that of illiterate, tired looking family members who are also portrait living in penury. Do they really want Obama to secure his way to WH? Think no.

Surf the net. Check search engines like Google, Ask, Mamma, etc.

Good luck.

Have had just heard that Bayero University has released its admission list on the web. So, if you have any close contact, try contacting him for more on the issue as soon as possible.

Good luck.

Nimshi,
I understand you very much like argument. Why? Its at times futile.

He does. Yet that depends. Religion, Islam in this regard, is not what one can toy with.

I tried to watch it but I can't. They say the vedio no longer exist. Why?

ayinba1:
David,

See I always wonder what you'd do without America. It seems it's the ALL in your eyes! Nnkan ile aye ni, we will not leave this world with it, ok.

LOL

I read it. Oh, what a pity. May his soul rest in peace, amin.

Greetings,

I heard, some days ago, though from an unreliable source, that Joint Admission and Matriculation Board is holding talks with NUC about banning post-UME examination at Nigerian universities. Please, has anyone of you also heard of this saga from a reliable source?

Thanks for your responses.

Am very happy with this group. By God's grace we are going to qualify. Up Super Eagles!

@huxley,

I fear your language is quite disrespecting. Better soften it a bit more when talking about the Great Creator--Allah and His Messenger.

Thanks for your kind understanding.

Hey you guys. Thanks or the correction, thats for the begining. Appreciate it.

Secondly, though eventually; I don't have that much time to respond fully to everyone above. Yet, I think saying something quite scanty could help 'some' matters out, huh?

@iice

No one can ever force anyone to love someone. Undeniable.
A person can satay and show 'bits' of care to someone that says love to him/her. Apt.

Thirdly, the giver is who has that melancholic attitude, I think, ehe?

Many thanks guys. Waiting for more of your views. By God's grace when I get back, will respond.