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Salam, azharuddin

Thanks for the hint. And that, yes, we should be doing, but what of adding what I set out to do in addition? Thats one.

Secondaly I see that from a contrary angle. The sister i.e. Uplawal, whom is my concern here, I think hasn’t gone far; she can still hear our call by the Will of Allah. But if we fold our arms and let that misguidance gets rooted in her thought and mind we didn’t act as we ought to. Remember where Allah, the Exalted, mentions in the Qur’an that we are the best of people as we commend to do right and correct wrong where we see it.

[center]Ye are the best of peoples, evolved for mankind, enjoining what is right, forbidding what is wrong, and believing in Allah. If only the People of the Book had faith, it were best for them: among them are some who have faith, but most of them are perverted transgressors. (Q3:110)[/center]

And, inshaAllah I won’t let the argument delve into that historical happening. We are going to stay at the surface, though courageously and wisely, inshaAllah.

May Allah, the Exalted, guide us all to the right path, amin.

LagosShia:
why not let us make an appointment on a clean new thread so that you can engage me?we can do that in the forum and publically and that is comfortable for me.what do you say?

Are you and Uplawal one and the same person? You too, if not because of your dissimulation practice and vilification of the Prophet's Companions, I can well indulge you. That I am stiffly afraid of as I don't know whether or not my Creator will be displeased with me "leading" you committing that damnable and untoward acts.

May Allah, the Exalted, open our hearts and mind to realize truth and give us the ability to follow it; may He give us the wisdom to fathom falsehood and give us the guts to escape it, amin. May He guide us all to the right and straight-forward path, amin.

^^^

Are you and Uplawal one and the same person? You too, if not because of your dissimulation practice and vilification of the Prophet's Companions, I can well indulge you. That I am stiffly afraid of as I don't know whether or not my Creator will be displeased with me "leading" you committing that damnable and untoward acts.

May Allah, the Exalted, open our hearts and mind to realize truth and give us the ability to follow it; may He give us the wisdom to fathom falsehood and give us the guts to escape it, amin. May He guide us all to the right and straight-forward path, amin.

DevotedOne:
[Center][Color=Green]Bismillaah ir Rahmaan ir Rahiim In The Name of Allah, The Only GOD, The Very Merciful, The All Merciful. As salaamu 'alaikum; The peace be upon you, everyone.[/Color][/Center]

muhsin


Imam Ali (A.S.) [I]has quite a lot to say[/I], and I believe you will be missing something important by not viewing the video.

The next best choice is to read His (A.S.) Sermons: http://www.al-islam.org/nahj/ Sermons of the Commander of the Faithful, Imam Ali b. Abi Talib [a]

I think the Prophet, upon whom be peace, has much more things to say, and I believe by sticking to these (and what the Sahabas, Ali (RA) included and Ulama) said I'll, inshaAllah, reach where I look forward to, i.e. Al-Jannat, inshaAllah.

Read the Prophet's sermon; its even on this board. Check it out!

uplawal:
obedience

Can I take this as YES?

Sister Uplawal,

I'm very glad at your response, though my time (for now) is finishing. Briefly, you yourself can reflectively judge by yourself: who do I call name (if that can be called call naming, for example to fell their--Shiites, pain)? Some simple people, whom among there is no Sahaba of the prophet, let alone the Prophet's wife (A'isha RA) and/or in-law (Abubakar RA), yet you are advising me to quit. But have you ever reflected at that other act, which they passionately do? Shouldn't they also ASAP quit since the intensity of the "atrocity" I committed is incomparable with their, right?

May Allah increase in your understanding of His Deen, amin. May He guide us all to the right path, amin.

The governor of Pakistan's powerful Punjab province was shot dead in the capital Tuesday by one of his guards, who told interrogators afterward that he was angry about the politician's stance against the country's blasphemy law, officials said.

The killing of Salman Taseer was the most high-profile assassination of a political figure in Pakistan since the slaying of former Prime Minister Benazir Bhutto in December 2007, and it rattled a country already dealing with crises ranging from a potential collapse of the government to Islamist militancy. (AP)

http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-4008952,00.html

Salam,

In this thread, I read one of the best lines I ever see in my entire life. May Allah improve our intelligence and help us use it in the best way we can, amin. Keep it up!

Salam,

Exactly! Only a few of us escape this, wallahi. May Allah, the Exalted, give us the strength to resist Shaytaan temptation on that, amin.

Nice OP brother. Allah reward you, amin.

Keep the ball rolling, bros. May Allah bless you for everything. May He guide us all to the right path, amin.

azharuddin:
Wa alaikumussalaam warahmatullahi wabarakatuhu.

Sure bro, the following are the hadith numbers:
   Book 40, Number :6778  reported by Anas ibn Malik
Also in
  Book 40, Number 6779:
  Same hadith narrated by Abu Huraira through another chain of transmitters.

Thanks bro. May Allah, the Exalted, reward you for keeping this thread alive. May Allah make it easy for us to work with all that we read here, amin.

Assalamu alaikum,

@Sister Uplawal,

I can't tell any living soul how worried I have been after reading some of your comments on this board regarding Shiite misguided sect. I was wondering whether or not you can indulge me in a discussion sometime soon. I wish the discussion could take place in private, for there I think you will feel more comfortable and be more open in telling me (and am sure my other brothers and sister too want to know) how or what exactly is/are your view(s) concerning some religious matters, but with emphasis on Shiite erroneous creed.

Tell me when, and InshaAllah I'll re-schedule anything I get to do and engage you, Sister. May Allah, the Exalted, guide us all to the right path, amin.

Thanks for your good understanding.

Assalamu alaikum,

@Sister Uplawal,

I can't tell any living soul how worried I have been after reading some of your comments on this board regarding Shiite misguided sect. I was wondering whether or not you can indulge me in a discussion sometime soon. I wish the discussion could take place in private, for there I think you will feel more comfortable and be more open in telling me (and am sure my other brothers and sister too want to know) how or what exactly is/are your view(s) concerning some religious matters, but with emphasis on Shiite erroneous creed.

Tell me when, and InshaAllah I'll re-schedule anything I get to do and engage you, Sister. May Allah, the Exalted, guide us all to the right path, amin.

Thanks for your good understanding.

Assalamu alaikum,

Where is IFY today? Haven't seen her around. Hope you are doing fine.

@Poster,

Can't you simply tell us what he said? I kinda don't wanna follow any link unless necessary, and in that case, that isn't so.

I'm in guys.

Among all the contestants so far there is none like Buhari. And many, if not all, Nigerians know that fact. People simply opt to, because of one or two personal and, at times, selfish reasons, opposing the man. Any way, we pray to Almighty God to choose us the best, which we, though, hope is the man in question.

Salam,

Brother azharuddin, thanks for what you have been doing here and else where aboard NL. May Allah reward you handsomely, amin.

BTW, can I get the above hadith's number? Thanks once again.

fellis:
All the muslims on this thread trying to defend Islam, you've done well. Leave those that arrogantly choose to disbelieve you alone. Don't take their words serious because a lot of them simply hate muslims and speak out of hatred.
(oya bring in the missles).

[size=15pt]I subscribe to this.[/size]

Salam,

@Lagosboy, we almost felt the same. Mts.

Salam,

Congrats big bro and alfa, Lagosboy. I don't have much time to say more, but you rightly deserve the award. And to our brothers, Chakula and Nopuqeater, you too guys deserve as much. Emerging Lagosboy as the winner isn't our will but our Creator's. May Allah, the Exalted, reward us all for what we are doing here and all our ibadat. May He admit us all into Al-Jannat, amin.

Allah ya taya riko.

Assalamu alaikum, my Muslim brothers and sisters

Read below:

LagosShia:
, I am humbly putting my trust in Allah and the Prophet (sa) and the 12 infallible Imams (as).

Wallahi this alone is enough to preclude me from further responding to him. He plainly shows he doesn't believe in what we do as he professes a different kalimat shahada from the one we do, and which is the one even the Ali (RA) whom they exceedingly extolled did profess.

Allah ya kyauta! God forbid!

May Allah, the Exalted, guide us to the right path, amin.

In defence of A’isha (RA) written by Muhsin

Sayyidat A’isha bint Abubakar, may Allah be pleased with both her and her father, based on numerous account of ahadeeth and undistorted historical scores is the favourite wife of the beloved prophet of Islam, Muhammad, may Allah exalt his mention. Yet some Muslim sects are fond of attacking and accusing her simply based on some free-emptied arguments and fabricated so-called histories of what transpired after the death of her husband, the Prophet, between her and Sayyid Ali (RA). Beside, other Muslims, which I am among, regard, revere and respect her in their best possible way; and she remains a role model for their women. To cap the long story short, her greatness is nothing contestable and hence one needs everything but persuasion to believe in its validity and cogency. It’s a fact right below our noses.

Therefore, I always wonder at those “others”, who choose to dent and defame her. The A’isha’s highness, at least considering her being one of the wives of the noble Prophet, whom he died and left couldn’t and oughtn’t have been, right from the scratch, subjected to question, criticism let alone what they—Shiites, are passionately doing, i.e. cursing her! Something is really wrong. That, to say the least, definitely typifies paucity knowledge, immature and unreflective thinking, shallow understanding and above all, recklessness.

Sometimes, as I came to discern, they hide under the façade that she is, alas, not among the Ahl Al-Bayt (family members) of the prophet, whom they always pretend adoring. Could that have been the case even if it were true? No! She still remains who she is: his wife. And, I’ll make it clear in the following lines that A’isha is aptly a bona fide Ahl Al-Bayt of the Prophet. Though, I suspect, one might argue, yeah I know where you’ll head. She is, of course, not among the four families (family of Ali, of Ja’afat, of Abbas and that of Aqeel) who are basically the Ahl Al-Bayt of the Prophet who were forbidden to receive charity after his death. Yet there are Qur’anic proofs which encapsulate that sometimes a wife is included among the family members of a man. For instance, I don’t know how in other languages but as in mine (Hausa), if a married man (who only has a wife and with no children) is asked: how is the family (i.e. ya iyalin?) he replies: (lafiya ta ke [she’s fine]) and he’s lexically, grammatically, syntactically, semantically, etc correct. So is also the case in Qur’anic (Arabic) language. See below:

Prophet Loot’s wife [family]

“So We saved him and his family except his wife, who was of those who lagged behind.” Q7:83

Why the word except [/i]his wife after mentioning his family? Simply its because she’s a member!

Prophet’s Ibrahim’s wife [family]

“They [angels] said: "Do you wonder at Allah's decree? May Allah's mercy and His blessings be upon you, O residents of the household; [/b]for He is indeed worthy of all praise, full of all glory.” Q11:73

The original expression use in the verse for the [b][i]“O residents of the household” [/b]is Ahl Al-Bayt, Check up your Qur’an to ascertain that.

Likewise when the Almighty talks about the Prophet Muhammad’s wives, he says:

“…O women of the [b]household [/b]of Rasool (Prophet), Allah only intends to remove uncleanliness from you and to purify you completely.” Q33:33

A’isha is of course undoubtedly included in the aforementioned verse, for [b]she’s a woman of the household, i.e. Ahl Al-Bayt of the Prophet!

Conclusively, how do they dare to muddy up the already beaming and glowing pictures of those upon whom Allah, the Exalted, has this to say:

“The Prophet is closer to the believers than their own selves and his wives are as their mothers. Blood relatives have a greater claim on one another than the other believers and the Muhajirin (early Muslims who migrated from Makkah to Madinah) according to the Book of Allah: although you are permitted to some good (through leaving bequests) for your friends. This has been written in the Book of Allah.” Q33:6

I am certain for once that we don’t have dispute that Allah knows of what had happened, is happening and will happen, true? Who was A’isha when that verse was revealed? Prophet’s wife, huh? And Allah plainly says she’s our mother. BUT (a big but!) what reliable source told you she did what you claim she did? It’s just some mere (if not doctored) history that reported that account? It’s now up to you to choose which is which: Qur’anic verse or some histories.

Lastly, I intentionally refuse to cite a single hadith for this reply, for I know you or one of your friends may claim the hadith as unsound. Again, as you did above, you bring your translation. That, I am afraid, is “easy”, and won’t help any matter out, for I reckon concerning readers can prove that right or wrong.

Be warned!

NB: InshaAllah this is my last reply to this thread. I had better heed my elders’ advice. May Allah, the Exalted, guide us all to the right path, amin.

chakula:
Salam,
Dudes if you can, please hold on from replying to this people let them continuous their thread alone.
Ma'asalam.

W/Salam, brother,

I wish we could. The temptation is irresistible. Ppl can barely fold arms while the greatest figures in Islam are ceaselessly mocked and vilified.

May Allah, the Exalted, guide us all to the right path, amin.

slap1:
You just gave [political] fame a new, ridiculously pitiable name. Kudos! The disparity between fame and notoriety is still there for even the blind to see!

I suppose fame is fame no matter the way it's brought forth. Though there's another designation for the notorious fame, i.e. infamy, right?

zayhal:
Barka Jum'ah, the first in 1432. May we live to witness many more in Islam

Amin.

Jumu'at Kareem

Shame:

President Goodluck Ebele Jonathan should have incontestably won this with his statement in the aftermath of October 1 tragic bomb blast in Abuja, when he unwisely made utterances that are plainly unpresidential, sectional and very parochial. He boldly absolved the terrorist group, Movement for the Emancipation of Niger Delta (MEND) that took responsibility of the dastard act, adding that he knew who the attackers were. The president portrayed his real image—tribal bigot who’s so sentimental and temperamental—to the Nigerians, particularly Northerners, and the whole world.

Fame:

Chief Raymond Dokpesi; the name, although already famous, wasn't known beyond the Southern Nigeria boarders. But now, after his unfazed support for IBB's presidential bid and his directorship of the man's campaign organization, widens across Nigerian soil. Everybody, not until recently after the emergence of Atiku as the so-called Northern consensus candidate, talked about him (Dokpesi).

I:
Salam,

Long time. I was just passing by and saw this thread. Wow! Yet another Award of the Year fanfare.

Lagosboy [/b]has my vote this year. Muhsin could have had it but he went to hiding more often than ever this year, although I learned against his own free will. Wish the fella and all other fellas up here all the best. But Lagosboy, I repeat, earns this years vote.

W/Salam

Oh, I just noticed this now. You have chosen a more knowledgeable person, [b]I. I, this year, hope not to be voted by a single member. The last year's was (and still is) enough for me. Thanks you and everyone.

May Allah help us, amin.

Assalamu alaikum,

Chakula.

He's the most prolific Islam for Muslim child-board contributor in this outgoing year. He stands unshaken, despite our ON and OFF participations. And, as already mentioned by Zayhal, he never retaliate abuses and the likes.

Beside, if I were to choose one more person it would be Lagosboy. He, by Allah's help, achieved what all of us on this board cherish to. I envy him. May Allah, the Exalted, share us in the measureless rewards he gained.

NB

I suppose you know what I am referring to above.

I think I had better sheath my sword and let that fruitless argument rest in peace, dude. Why? I, for instance, do not agree with a WORD you have written above. They are NOTHING more than rantings from a "helpless" and misguided fella whom only his Creator, Allah can save from the nocturnal darkness he rather deliberately sent himself into.

I shall say more when I get back. (Don't think otherwise, it took you almost a week to reply me. "Well done". Keep trying ).

Jumu'at Kareem!

Assalamu alaikum,

[center]Narrated Anas bin Malik:

Allah's Apostle said, "The superiority of 'Aisha over other women is like the superiority of Tharid to other meals."

Sahih Bukhari volume 5, Book 57, Number 114[/center]

To LagosShia and co,

You had me laughing dude, for nothing in your reply was unexpected. It’s typical of you and your folks. InshaAllah you will not succeed in what you and your cohorts set out to do. Nairaland—Islam for Muslim child-board, is an unsellable market for your commodity.

One more thing I would like to call your as well as other Muslims’ notice is that: the schism between Shiites and Sunni is being on place for more than a millennium. Hence to think of sealing that rift now is nothing but illusion. Quit saying or aptly, claiming you are here for peace; wallahi you are NOT! You are here only and only to create confusion and to fight, whence you eventually, maybe unknown to you, end up advertising your ignorance regarding Islam and Muslim.

How? This question, I know, will definitely be asked by an average reader or more succinctly knower of Shiite and their precepts. Yah, a person who plainly excludes Nana A’isha (RA) from the Prophet’s Ahl Al Bayt (members of his family) is nobody but jahilun murakkab, i.e. classic ignorant! Secondly, who claims that Sayyid Abubakar (RA) was a bad person is the same. Thirdly, who doesn’t believe with Bukhari and other authentic ahadith books, for he apparently says this: they are “our” books, not “theirs”! People who consider those Imams as prophets or even better in status! And keep count. They shouldn’t deserve to be tagged pure Muslims, if not Muslims at all.

I have been tempted to engage you into an in-depth and thorough discussion but I am afraid whether or not you understand what I write. I made that clear as I there (i.e. other reply) begun asking whether or not you read at. My doubt is concretized and the fact that you don’t (read) epitomizes itself when you alluded that I say I would befriend non-Muslim. But are you not taught in school that: in any formal writing, quotation marks are used on a word to tell readers that that word is used figuratively. I write, as everyone can see, “befriend”, huh? Considering this fact, alone, I am free from any accusation.

And, I say as per as I personally view you; my reason is that: you do not actually believe in the Prophet Muhammad, may Allah exalt his mention. If you truly did you wouldn’t have been vilifying and cursing his best wife Nana A’isha bnt his best Companion, Khalifa Abubakar Siddiq among others ceaselessly and passionately. That is there in your books, your actions and speeches. For example: will you name your son and daughter after Abubakar and A’isha respectively? Please be sincere, don’t practice Taqiyyah here. You see?

Above notwithstanding, I implore you to say little if not no more on that. We, here, have goals and objectives much more important than defending attacks from “insiders”, while outsiders too are launching more destructive attacks upon us. More-over, I think (only presume!) that you would like to see one as Sunni than to see him/her as non-Muslim at all. We have folks who just revert (yah revert, for Islam is everyone’s born right) to Islam. That Karbala, Imamate and so on will only help in leading them into mire and mare. Let them first of all understand what the religion is, and then they may later decide which camp to go; though I’ll never wish them to go yours!

May Allah, the Exalted, guide us all to the right path, amen.