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Christianity EtcRe: Is It Right To Have Sex After Traditional Wedding? by mustang44: 7:47am On Oct 09, 2014
YES YES YES it is VERY VERY VERY right!
IslamRe: Top-5 Nollywood Stars Who Dumped Christianity by mustang44:
Who cares if they are now muslims? How is this making the world a better place? Muslim countries should remove apostasy law and see what will happens.
IslamRe: Going To Hajj In The Bible(evidence) by mustang44: 11:48am On Oct 01, 2014
Abdulsalam20: same mistake smh! what an antichrist.......islam has never go down and it will forever be the fastese growing religion because it can be verified systematically and generally applicable............grin
like i have always said islamic law is the best just read it and feel it
Matthew 7:13

"Enter through the narrow gate. For wide is the
gate and broad is the road that leads to
destruction, and many enter through it.

He responds to those who believe and do right actions, and
gives them increase from His favor . But the unbelievers will
have a harsh punishment. ( Surat ash-Shura , 26)
Islam is not the fastest growing religion in
the world. Islam is the religion of the
uncivilized third world where the birth rate
is high. In these same Countries, Muslims
are killed if they convert to Christianity.
The Islamic religion has a long history of
myth making. The claim they are the fastest
growing religion in the world is pure myth.
Muslim's claim that their growth rate is 235
percent and 47 percent for Christianity.
This statistic came from the Readers Digest
Almanac and Yearbook 1983, and
represents 235 percent increase over 50
years . Muslims always leave off the 50 year
fact to make it appear they are going 235%
every year. A simple review of the readers
Digest study shows that the growth rate of
Islam vs. Christianity is directly linked to the
birth rate in Third World countries where
Islam dominates and not actual
conversions to each religion. Christianity
has always been larger than Islam. These
statistics from Readers Digest are over 20
years old.
Further, readers digest is not considered to be an authority on such
matters . Why will Muslims not quote real
authoritative statistics from certified
research groups who show Islam is not the
fastest growing religion in 3/4’s of the
worlds countries.
IslamRe: Going To Hajj In The Bible(evidence) by mustang44:
Abdulsalam20: same mistake smh! what an antichrist.......islam has never go down and it will forever be the fastese growing religion because it can be verified systematically and generally applicable............grin
like i have always said islamic law is the best just read it and feel it
Matthew 7:13

"Enter through the narrow gate. For wide is the
gate and broad is the road that leads to
destruction, and many enter through it.

He responds to those who believe and do right actions, and
gives them increase from His favor . But the unbelievers will
have a harsh punishment. ( Surat ash-Shura , 26)
FUNNY! Your wishful thinking will never stop. Let me tell you, if it was not for the islamic apostasy law many muslims would have left islam since. Many muslims are afraid to dump islam Because of the islamic apostasy law. They know that they will be killed or jailed. Only few people convert to islam and they dump islam as soon as they find out the truth about islam. Islam only grows by birth rate, that is why muslim men are encouraged to marry many wives and start given birth like guinea pigs to increase muslim population. No matter what, islam can never be as famouse as christianity, muslims can never be as many as christians.
IslamRe: Going To Hajj In The Bible(evidence) by mustang44: 4:40pm On Sep 30, 2014
Abdulsalam20: did you know the definition of lie?.......lie is what you cn prove wrong........therefore sine you cant prove it wrong then it is truth.......
You are the liar! HURRAY! This is 21st century, not 7th century arabia. islamic conquest is dead and gone to grass for good. ISIL in iraq are trying by all means to bring it back again but the french and the US army are given them the taste of their own medicine. NO TO ISLAMIC CALIPHATE!
IslamRe: Going To Hajj In The Bible(evidence) by mustang44: 3:16pm On Sep 30, 2014
Abdulsalam20: i will still come and adress this........but address my post first and i will prove to you that jesus and all other prophets in the bible are muslim......but before that prove all what i said above wrong.......then i will become a christian religion of paul
am still comming toadress ur false claim
keep day dreaming and believing in the islanic lie that all the biblical prophets including Jesus were muslims. What a wishful thinking. Muhammad started islam as well as the one and only prophet of his religion islam. Who cares if paul started christianity.
IslamRe: Going To Hajj In The Bible(evidence) by mustang44: 2:32pm On Sep 30, 2014
Abdulsalam20: AH! U dont even understand your book
look at the verse let me quote it
new living translation make it more interesting grin
New Living Translation
But I say, do not make any vows! Do not say, 'By
heaven!' because heaven is God's throne.


and niv bible
New International Version
But I tell you, do not swear an oath at all: either
by heaven, for it is God's throne;

NIV IS ALSO SAYING THE SAME THING LOOK AT THE COLON IN FRONT OF at all IN THE SENTENCE WHAT DOES IT MEAN
THE VERSE IS NOTSAYING WE SHOULD NOT MAKE GOD OUR WITNESS BUT IT IS SAYING WE SHOULD NOT MAKE HEAVEN OUR WITNESS FOR IT IS GOD CREATURE PLS WHY LYING

Jeremiah 49:12-13
12 This is what the LORD says: "If those who do not
deserve to drink the cup must drink it, why should you go
unpunished? You will not go unpunished, but must drink it.
13 I swear by myself," declares the LORD , "that Bozrah
will become a ruin and an object of horror, of reproach
and of cursing; and all its towns will be in ruins forever."

PLS IF YOU CAN PROVE ME WRONG DONT QUOTE ME......I STILL REMAIN ON MY POINT ALL CHRISTIAN ARE ANTICHRIST UNTIL YOU PROVE ME WRONG grin grin grin
Do you think your islam is better than other religions of the world? As a matter of fact, islam is not as good as judaism, christianity, bhudism, hinduism even paganism etc. All these religions i mentioned existed for many years before muhammad came with his own version of religion and named it islam. When muhammad stated hallucinating that the angel Gabriel appeared to him and started islam; muhammad was able to persuade only few people, mostly close family members. Muhammad cowardly ran to medina because of the meccans. Because muhammad new that he could not persuade people to join his new religion, muhammad decided to change tactics. Muhammad being a desperate man started forming fighters to unleash terror on the people that rejected him. Even the jews of medina rejected muhammad knowing that muhammad was fake and they paid with their lives. Muhammad babished the jewish tribe of banu qaynuqah, banu nadir and killed all the grown men of banu qurhayzah. From medina islamic conquest began starting with the people of mecca. Without islamic conquest, islam would have gone nowhere. People were forced to pay heavy taxes called jizyah. Muslims forced islam on people, if islam is a good religion people will flock to it. You keep attacking other religions without looking at the dark side your own. Learn to leave other religions alone and face your own.
IslamRe: Going To Hajj In The Bible(evidence) by mustang44: 4:05pm On Sep 26, 2014
Abdulsalam20: MUSTANG44 I AM WAITING OR YOUR RESPONSE
You muslims should blame your self proclaim prophet muhammad for failing to get his records corectly, not to blame it on christianity and judaism. Do not be brainwashed muhammad invented islam. No angel revealed anything to muhammad, muhammad simply dictated the quran that is why alot of false and twisted bible events are found in the quran. Instead of mislims to accept the terrible mistakes muhammad made and find a way to corect it, muslims shamelessly said that the bible is corupt. To show that muhammad was fake, he contradicted the revelations of prophets before him.
If the Torah and the Gospel were
tampered with by Jews and Christians,
then the testimony of the Quran to their
authenticity is false. If you say that the
Bible was tampered with after
Muhammad, that means that the Allah
of the Quran did not know that the Bible
would be corrupted. Either way, we have
to conclude that the Quran is not
trustworthy.
There were thousands of manuscripts
of the Bible in more than one language
in the hands of many Jews and
Christians. If anyone wanted to corrupt
the Bible, he must have access and
authority to collect all these manuscripts
to corrupt them, and that is next to
impossible.
The honesty of the Bible declares it
never was tampered with. The Bible is
absolutely honest.
The New Testament ends with these words:
F or I testify unto every
man that heareth the words
of the prophecy of this book,
if any man shall add unto
these things, God shall add
unto him the plagues that
are written in this book: and
if any man shall take away
from the words of the book
of this prophecy, God shall
take away his part out of
the book of life, and out of
the holy city, and from the
things which are written in
this book (Revelation
22:18,19). To claim that the Bible was corrupted,
You muslims have to give satisfactory answers to
the following questions:
When was the Bible corrupted?
Who corrupted the Bible?
Why should anybody corrupt the Bible?
What portions of the Bible were corrupted?
Where is the uncorrupted Bible to give
evidence of the corruption of the Bible we
have?
To prove that the dollar somebody holds is
forged, you have to have the authentic
dollar to compare it with the forged dollar.
The question is, "Do you have the true Bible
to compare it with the corrupted Bible?" If
the answer is "no," then to claim that the
Bible was corrupted is totally false.
The truth is that the Bible is the gold
standard by which the Quran should be
examined.
Allah commanded Muhammad,
I f thou wert in doubt as
to what we have revealed
unto thee, then ask those
who have been reading the
Book [the Bible] from
before thee (Surat Yunus
10:94).
This means that the Bible is the gold
standard by which the Quran should be
examined. It is inconceivable that Allah
would command Muhammad to seek advice
from people who read a corrupted book or
a book which could be corrupted!
To believe that the Bible is corrupted is to
believe a great deception that will hinder
you from reading and searching the
greatest book in the world - The Holy Bible,
the Glorious Word of God.
Why do Muslims
continually discredit the Bible on
grounds that the Qur'an/Koran,
though 600 years younger, has not
been corrupted like the Bible?
Were you aware that Muhammad
himself called the Christian Bible
(Injeel) "Guidance and Light".
Muhammad also commanded the
reading of the Christian Bible as
part of Islam. Have you read the
Christian Bible?
Why is the unity of the Qur'an so
strongly taught, when historical
records prove the contrary?
Qur'an 5:46/47 and
43:63;
"And in their (earlier
prophets) footsteps,
We sent Jesus the son
of Mary,
confirming the Taurat
(the Jewish Torah),
that had come before
him:
We sent him the Injeel
(the Christian Gospel),
therein was Guidance
and Light.
And confirmation of the
Taurat ( the Torah),
that had come before
him:
a Guidance and an
Admonition to those
who fear Allah."
"Let the People of the
Injeel (the Gospel),
judge by what Allah
had revealed therein.
If any do fail to judge
by what Allah had
revealed,
they are those who
rebel."
"When Jesus came with
Clear Signs, he said:
'Now I have come to
you with wisdom,
in order to make clear
to you some of the
(points)
on which you dispute*;
therefore fear Allah
and obey me**.
For Allah is my God
and your God***;
so worship you
Him****: this is a
straight way."
Again, below
Muhammad attests to
the Torah's authority.
So, for Muslims to
claim the Bible was
corrupted is an
argument already
lost....
n Sura 5:48 we are told
that Muhammad is given
the Qur'an as a
confirmation of the bible;
that is - it is meant to
prove the bible's
authenticity....
In Sura 46:12 we are
told.... " Yet before it
there was the Book of
Moses which was an
authority, and a mercy.
This (the Qur'an) is the
Book confirming it in
the Arabic tongue ....."
The general opinion and testimony of
Muslims that (unlike the Bible as they
assert) the Qur'an/Koran is clear and
uniform. There are no differing
versions and documents. There is but
one Qur'an and all Muslims
everywhere use the identical text,
given word for word by Gabriel to
Mohammed who, in turn, recited it to
his scribes and companions for
recording or memorization. These
pieces were collected under the
Khalifships of Abu Bakr and Umar by
Zaid-ibn-Thabith. When a little later
contentions arose between believers
because of differing recitations (in
prayer), Uthman ordered the text to
be edited according to the dialect of
the Quraish, and this text is the one
before us today.
As we shall see, this is not correct -
or it is, to say the least, a very
romantic concept.
We must say here, however, that by
"different versions" of the Bible is
generally meant various translations,
which do indeed have differences in
phrasing as any one translation of a
certain text has when compared to
another translation of the same text -
translations of the Qur'an not
excepted.
Muslims interpret the honesty
Christians display about some variant
readings of the Bible as weakness
and claim that the Qur'an never had
more than one version. Any
differences, they say, concerned
variant dialects only and never
affected the meaning of the text. This
is definitely incorrect as the following
paragraphs will prove.
The truth is, the Christian Bible can
be nearly reconstructed today from
the 24,800 copies of original
manuscripts still in existence and the
80,000 quotations from early church
fathers. Also, many people who
actually walked and talked with Jesus
wrote to us about His life. The
Christian Gospels were so widely
distributed that any attempt to
change (add/subtract) something in
the Christian Gospels would have
resulted in immediate discovery.
Muslims should note that
nowhere in the Qur'an there is
there even a suggestion that the
Biblical text has been altered or
corrupted. The word "tahrif" is
never used with reference to the
Bible itself. The Qur'an
occasionally accuses the Jews of
concealing the truth but it never
levels this accusation at
Christians. It in no way implies
that the text of the Bible has
been corrupted. In fact, the
Qur'an attests to the validity of
the Christian Gospels and the
Torah.
Jewish scribes painstakingly copied
the Torah via a system of checking,
double checking and adding each
letter on each line. Any attempt to
change something in the Torah would
have resulted in immediate discovery.
This same quality of transmission
cannot be said of the Islamic Qur'an.
The Islamic Qur'an was written down
from 3rd and 4th hand accounts; and
from a few thoughts written on scrap
papers --and compiled over 150 yrs
after Muhammad died in 632 A.D.
The oldest Qur'an dates from around
790 A.D. (after Jesus), and it is in the
British Library. That's 158 years after
Muhammad’s death.
Muslims often claim that the
manuscript of the Qur'an housed in
the Topkapi Museum in Istanbul,
Turkey is one of the oldest sources.
Muslims say it dates from around 650
A.D. There is an insurmountable
problem with this. This document is
written in Kufic (also known as al-
Khatt al-Kufi) script. Coins in the
British Museum show that the first
coins using the Kufi
IslamRe: Going To Hajj In The Bible(evidence) by mustang44: 6:34pm On Sep 24, 2014
Abdulsalam20: I WILL ANSWER ALL YOUR FALSE BELIEF ONE BY ONE
I await your fabricated and false answers!
IslamRe: Going To Hajj In The Bible(evidence) by mustang44: 5:35pm On Sep 22, 2014
Abdulsalam20: LASTLY WHAT IS ISLAM?......IT MEANS TOTAL SUBMISSION TO GOD UNCONDITIONALLY AND TO PROVE THAT ALL PROPHETS ARE MUSLIM U WILL SEE IN BIBLE PASSAGES SAYING
THE LORD OUR LORD IS ONE LORD(THAT IS TAWHEED)
FURTHER PROOFS
* MUSLIMS (THOSE WHO SUBMIT TO THE WILL OF GOD) PERFORM
ABLUTION BEFORE PRAYER
THEN DAVID AROSE FROM THE EARTH AND WASHED AND ANOINTED
HIMSELF AND CHANGED HIS CLOTHES. AND HE WENT INTO THE HOUSE
OF THE LORD AND WORSHIPED ( SAMUEL 12:20 )
THEY SHALL WASH THEIR HANDS AND THEIR FEET ( EXODUS 30:21 )
WITH WHICH MOSES AND AARON AND HIS SONS WASHED THEIR
HANDS AND THEIR FEET. ( EXODUS 40:31 )
* THE FIRST POSITION OF PRAYER, MUSLIMS LIFT UP THEIR HANDS
PALMS OUT AT THE SIDE OF THE HEAD
SO I WILL BLESS YOU AS LONG AS I LIVE
IN YOUR NAME I WILL LIFT UP MY HANDS. (PSALM 63:4 )
AND EZRA BLESSED THE LORD, THE GREAT GOD, AND ALL THE PEOPLE
ANSWERED,(A) “AMEN, AMEN,”(B) LIFTING UP THEIR HANDS. AND
THEY BOWED THEIR HEADS AND WORSHIPED THE LORD WITH THEIR
FACES TO THE GROUND.(NEHEMIAH 8:6 )
* WHEN THE MUSLIMS PRAY, THEY FELL ON THEIR FACES
THEN ABRAM FELL ON HIS FACE. AND GOD SAID TO HIM(GENESIS
17:3 )
THEN MOSES AND AARON WENT FROM THE PRESENCE OF THE
ASSEMBLY TO THE ENTRANCE OF THE TENT OF MEETING AND FELL ON
THEIR FACES. AND THE GLORY OF THE LORD APPEARED TO THEM,
(NUMBERS 20:6 )
THEN JOSHUA TORE HIS CLOTHES AND FELL TO THE EARTH ON HIS FACE
BEFORE THE ARK OF THE LORD (JOSHUA 7:6 ).
WHEN ALL THE PEOPLE OF ISRAEL SAW THE FIRE COME DOWN AND THE
GLORY OF THE LORD ON THE TEMPLE, THEY BOWED DOWN WITH THEIR
FACES TO THE GROUND (2 CHRONICLES 7:3 )
AND EZRA BLESSED THE LORD, THE GREAT GOD, AND ALL THE PEOPLE
ANSWERED,(A) “AMEN, AMEN,”(B) LIFTING UP THEIR HANDS.(C)
AND THEY BOWED THEIR HEADS AND WORSHIPED THE LORD WITH
THEIR FACES TO THE GROUND.(NEHEMIAH 8:6 )
** JESUS PRAYING TO GOD
”AND GOING A LITTLE FARTHER HE FELL ON HIS FACE AND
PRAYED”( MATTHEW 26:39 )
** EVEN JESUS’ DISCIPLES SUBMITTED AS MUSLIMS
WHEN THE DISCIPLES HEARD THIS, THEY FELL ON THEIR FACES AND
WERE TERRIFIED”( MATTHEW 17:6 )
AND ELIJAH WENT UP TO THE TOP OF MOUNT CARMEL, AND HE BOWED
HIMSELF DOWN ON THE EARTH AND PUT HIS FACE BETWEEN HIS
KNEES.(1 KINGS 18: 42 )
AND ALL THE ANGELS WERE STANDING AROUND THE THRONE AND
AROUND THE ELDERS AND THE FOUR LIVING CREATURES, AND THEY FELL
ON THEIR FACES BEFORE THE THRONE AND WORSHIPED GOD,
(REVELATIONS 7:11 )
OH COME, LET US WORSHIP AND BOW DOWN
LET US KNEEL BEFORE THE LORD, OUR MAKER! (PSALM 95:6 )
ALL THE PROSPEROUS OF THE EARTH EAT AND WORSHIP
BEFORE HIM SHALL BOW ALL WHO GO DOWN TO THE DUST( PSALM
22:29 )
NOW MANOAH AND HIS WIFE WERE WATCHING, AND THEY FELL ON
THEIR FACES TO THE GROUND. (JUDGES 13:20 )
AND WHEN ALL THE PEOPLE SAW IT, THEY FELL ON THEIR FACES AND
SAID, “THE LORD, HE IS GOD; THE LORD, HE IS GOD.”( 1 KINGS
18:39 )
DAVID ROSE FROM BESIDE THE STONE HEAP AND FELL ON HIS FACE TO
THE GROUND( 1 SAMUEL 20: 41 )
AND JOSHUA FELL ON HIS FACE TO THE EARTH AND WORSHIPED
(JOSHUA 5:14 )
WHEN ABRAHAM’S SERVANT HEARD THEIR WORDS, HE BOWED
HIMSELF TO THE EARTH BEFORE THE LORD.(GENESIS 24:52 )
ISLAM IN BIBLE ••••►BOWING AND PROSTRATING ON THE GROUND
• JESUS (PBUH)
AND HE WENT A LITTLE FARTHER, AND FELL ON HIS FACE, AND PRAYED,
SAYING, O MY FATHER, IF IT BE POSSIBLE, LET THIS CUP PASS FROM
ME: NEVERTHELESS NOT AS I WILL, BUT AS THOU [WILT.]. (MATTHEW
26:39)
• MOSES (PBUH)
AND MOSES BOWED TO THE GROUND AND WORSHIPED. (EXODUS
34:cool
• MOSES AND AARON (PBUT) :
THEN MOSES AND AARON WENT AWAY FROM THE ASSEMBLY TO THE
ENTRANCE OF THE TENT OF MEETING AND FELL ON THEIR FACES…
(NUMBERS 20:6)
• ABRAHAM (PBUH)
THEN ABRAM FELL ON HIS FACE. (GENESIS 17:3)
• ABRAHAM’S SERVANT :
WHEN ABRAHAM’S SERVANT HEARD THEIR WORDS, HE BOWED
HIMSELF TO THE GROUND BEFORE THE LORD. (GENESIS 24:52)
• JOSHUA (PBUH) :
AND JOSHUA FELL ON HIS FACE TO THE EARTH AND WORSHIPED
(JOSHUA 5:14).
• EZRA AND THE PEOPLE :
THEN THEY BOWED THEIR HEADS AND WORSHIPED THE LORD WITH
THEIR FACES TO THE GROUND. (NEHEMIAH 8:6)
JESUS IS A MUSLIM: JESUS USING THE WORD "MUSLIM" IN LUKE
6:40:
LET US LOOK AT LUKE 6:40 FROM MY N.I.V. BIBLE "A STUDENT IS
NOT ABOVE HIS TEACHER, BUT EVERYONE WHO IS FULLY TRAINED WILL
BE LIKE HIS TEACHER."
Your claims are all baseless! How could you say all the biblical prophets were all muslims just because they fall with their faces on the ground and prayed plus, they washed their bodies before praying. Let me tell you, muhammad copied all this from the bible. Because all these events took place before muhammad found islam. Its simple, muslims prayed like them not them praying like muslims. “Jerusalem’s
Al Aqsa Mosque is from where Muhammad
rose to Heaven” - This is a big Lie and a
Myth. {How does anyone even know if
Muhammad did go to Heaven, leave alone
from Jerusalem?} This false claim is based
on Muslim guessing of the Quran 17:1
{Actually, the Quran says, “…carried his
servant [Muhammad] by night [on a
donkey] from the Inviolable place of
worship [Mecca] to the far distant place of
worship [Later-Muslims claimed this place
as Al-Masujidi al-Aqtza] the neighbourhood
whereof.” This ‘far distant place’ could
mean anywhere on earth, couldn’t it? It
doesn’t even mention a mosque, does it? If
Muhammad was already dead, then to
whom did Allah reveal this sura? {Who
coined this Sura? You see the lie/fraud in
the Quran? } The fact - the Al Aqsa mosque
and the Dome of the Rock was not built yet
then, when Muhammad was killed. Did he
go 700Km. just in one night and that too
on a donkey, over the desert, did the
donkey have headlamps, was Muhammad’s
body strapped or someone holding the
dead body, in the extreme cold of the
desert, did the donkey stop to quench his
thirst, or did the donkey have a supersonic
700 Km. flight?
Fact-Jerusalem was captured by Khalif
Omar only in 638, six years after
Mohammed's death. Throughout this time
there were only churches in Jerusalem, and
a church stood on the Temple Mount,
called the Church of Saint Mary, built in the
Byzantine architectural style, started by
Emperor Constantine 1 after 330 A.D. and
completed by Emperor Justinian. In or
around 711, or about 80 years after
Muhammad died, Malik's son, Abd El-Wahd
- who ruled from 705-715 - renovated the
Church of St. Mary and converted it into a
mosque. He left the structure as it was, a
typical Byzantine {Eastern Roman Empire}
"basilica" structure with a row of pillars
with corridors on either side of the
rectangular "ship" in the centre {A typical
church building design}. All he did was
some cosmetic renovations, removed
Christian items and replaced the Christian
stained glasses. He then named it Al-Aqsa,
so it would sound like the one mentioned
by the Muslims. This Mosque still looks
more like a church, and there is no Mosque
anywhere in this world, which looks like it.
The Muslims have no shame to claim a
church as their 3rd most holy mosque . Al
Aqsa mosque did not exist when
Muhammad died. Allah obviously meant
the Medina Mosque. But the Muslims
wanted Islam to be recognized with God’s
“people of the Book” and seek some
acceptance from the Jews, which
Muhammad tried, but was rejected all the
time, as Jews consider Muhammad a fake.
Historically, from 2000 B.C., Jerusalem was
Jewish and Jerusalem is a Hebrew name,
originally it was called the ‘city of Judah’
and once the ‘city of God’. In ancient days,
Arabs had no name for this city, but in
modern times named this city ‘al-
Khuds’ {‘the Holy’}
IslamRe: Going To Hajj In The Bible(evidence) by mustang44: 4:49pm On Sep 18, 2014
Abdulsalam20: grin grin ;'D ASSUMING U READ MY POST U WILL HAVE NOT DISGRACE YOUR SELF LIKE THIS grin YOU CLAIM MOSJID ASA WAS BUILT AFTER MUHAMMAD grin..... DID U THINK THAT MUHAMMAD WAS THE FOUNDER OF ISLAM PLS WHERE DID U LEAVE ABRAHAM I WONT REPEAT MY SELF AGAIN BECAUSE ALL WHAT I POSTED IS WITH DUE REFERENCE BUT U DENIED IT.........ITS NT NEW TO ME THOUGH BECAUSE THAT IS HOW U DERAIL THE TOPIC FROM GOING TO HAJJ BECAUSE U CANT PROVIDE A JUSTIFICATION FOR IT.........WHEN U ARGUED ABOUT BACA grin I GUESS U LATER DISCOVER THAT BACA IS THE ANCIENT NAME OF MECCA..........I SAID JERUSALEM IS NO MORE HOLY U COULDNT PROVE ME WRONG INFACT GO AND READ MALACHI 3:1-14 U WILL SEE WHT GOD SAY WILL MAKE JERUSALEM HOLY........BUT U DENIED IT BECAUSE U DIDNT READ MY POST U WENT TO ANSWERING-ISLAM.ORG TO COPY AN UNVERIFIED ESSAY.............I DONT HAVE MUCH TO SAY BECAUSE IT WAS SAID BY ARISTOTLE THAT MAN BY NATURE IS A POLITICAL ANIMAL AND A PSYCOLOGICAL FACT STATES THAT WHEN THE MIND SEES THE TRUTH THE RIGHT MIND TEND TO ACCEPT IT BUT WE TEND TO REJECT IT WITH AN UNVERIFIED EVIDENCE

THE FACT IS THAT WE PRACTICE A RELIGION BECAUSE WE ARE BORN IN MUSLIM OR CHRISTIAN HOME BUT IT SHOULDNT BE LIKE THAT RELIGION IS SOMETHING THAT U SHOULD PRACTICE BECAUSE U CONSIDER IT AS A WAY........
I WILL ADVICE YOU TO READ MY POST AGAIN U WILL DISCOVER THAT ALL WHAT YOU POSTED IS EXTRANOUS
You are the one who is disgracing yourself not me. I will not fall for your lies. Was there anything at all called mosjid al aqsa b4 muhammad was born? Even there was no place of worship called mosjid al aqsa during the life time of muhammad. Even, for the fact that muhammad did not mention jerusalem buy name shows that he did not go to jerusalem physicaly, it was in his dream that he went to jerusalem. Jerusalem was not even mentioned by name in the koran. King solomon built a temple and was later destroyed, when muslims conquered jerusalem after the death of muhammad, they built musjid al aqsa mosque on the site of king solomons temple and lied that it was the site that muhammad ascended to heaven from. They were no group of pple called muslims or any religion called islam b4 muhammad was born. muhammad founded islam in 7th century arabia. Abraham was neither a jew, christian
nor muslim. Muslims want Abraham
to be seen as a muslim because they
are desperate for recognition. calling Abraham
muslim is a wishful thinking, done
with the purpose of making Islam
relevant.
Besides, no one was called a muslim
before Muhammad. Calling someone
muslim using a generic definition of
the word is a form of corruption of
ideas. The person muslims called
Ibrahim is not the same Abraham described in the Bible. The biblical Abraham
never ventured into Mecca. The
muslim Abraham is Muhammad's
fabrication, this person never
existed. The biblical Abraham is not
the ancestor of Arabs, for before
Abraham, the Arabs already existed
as people. How can the sons be
older than the father? Abraham was not a member ofany organized religion. He simply followed the divine commandments given to him. If Abraham was a Muslim, then why
weren't there any Muslims recorded in
history from that time? Why didn't he
call himself a Muslims?
IslamRe: Going To Hajj In The Bible(evidence) by mustang44: 4:38pm On Sep 18, 2014
Abdulsalam20: grin grin ;'D ASSUMING U READ MY POST U WILL HAVE NOT DISGRACE YOUR SELF LIKE THIS grin YOU CLAIM MOSJID ASA WAS BUILT AFTER MUHAMMAD grin..... DID U THINK THAT MUHAMMAD WAS THE FOUNDER OF ISLAM PLS WHERE DID U LEAVE ABRAHAM I WONT REPEAT MY SELF AGAIN BECAUSE ALL WHAT I POSTED IS WITH DUE REFERENCE BUT U DENIED IT.........ITS NT NEW TO ME THOUGH BECAUSE THAT IS HOW U DERAIL THE TOPIC FROM GOING TO HAJJ BECAUSE U CANT PROVIDE A JUSTIFICATION FOR IT.........WHEN U ARGUED ABOUT BACA grin I GUESS U LATER DISCOVER THAT BACA IS THE ANCIENT NAME OF MECCA..........I SAID JERUSALEM IS NO MORE HOLY U COULDNT PROVE ME WRONG INFACT GO AND READ MALACHI 3:1-14 U WILL SEE WHT GOD SAY WILL MAKE JERUSALEM HOLY........BUT U DENIED IT BECAUSE U DIDNT READ MY POST U WENT TO ANSWERING-ISLAM.ORG TO COPY AN UNVERIFIED ESSAY.............I DONT HAVE MUCH TO SAY BECAUSE IT WAS SAID BY ARISTOTLE THAT MAN BY NATURE IS A POLITICAL ANIMAL AND A PSYCOLOGICAL FACT STATES THAT WHEN THE MIND SEES THE TRUTH THE RIGHT MIND TEND TO ACCEPT IT BUT WE TEND TO REJECT IT WITH AN UNVERIFIED EVIDENCE

THE FACT IS THAT WE PRACTICE A RELIGION BECAUSE WE ARE BORN IN MUSLIM OR CHRISTIAN HOME BUT IT SHOULDNT BE LIKE THAT RELIGION IS SOMETHING THAT U SHOULD PRACTICE BECAUSE U CONSIDER IT AS A WAY........
I WILL ADVICE YOU TO READ MY POST AGAIN U WILL DISCOVER THAT ALL WHAT YOU POSTED IS EXTRANOUS
You are the one who is disgracing yourself not me. I will not fall for your lies. Was there anything at all called mosjid al aqsa b4 muhammad was born? Even there was no place of worship called mosjid al aqsa during the life time of muhammad. Even, for the fact that muhammad did not mention jerusalem buy name shows that he did not go to jerusalem physicaly, it was in his dream that he went to jerusalem. Jerusalem was not even mentioned by name in the koran. King solomon built a temple and was later destroyed, when muslims conquered jerusalem after the death of muhammad, they built musjid al aqsa mosque on the site of king solomons temple and lied that it was the site that muhammad ascended to heaven from. They were no group of pple called muslims or any religion called islam b4 muhammad was born. muhammad founded islam in 7th century arabia. Abraham was neither a jew, christian
nor muslim. Muslims want Abraham
to be seen as a muslim because they
are desperate for recognition. calling Abraham
muslim is a wishful thinking, done
with the purpose of making Islam
relevant.
Besides, no one was called a muslim
before Muhammad. Calling someone
muslim using a generic definition of
the word is a form of corruption of
ideas. The person muslims called
Ibrahim is not the same Abraham described in the Bible. The biblical Abraham
never ventured into Mecca. The
muslim Abraham is Muhammad's
fabrication, this person never
existed. The biblical Abraham is not
the ancestor of Arabs, for before
Abraham, the Arabs already existed
as people. How can the sons be
older than the father? Abraham was not a member ofany organized religion. He simply followed the divine commandments given to him. If Abraham was a Muslim, then why
weren't there any Muslims recorded in
history from that time? Why didn't he
call himself a Muslims?
IslamRe: Going To Hajj In The Bible(evidence) by mustang44: 4:07pm On Sep 16, 2014
Abdulsalam20: History of Al Aqsa Mosque
"The Tunnel of King Je-hoia-chin and Its Religious Significance"
The patriarch of all the believers of Allah (God), i.e. Jews, Christians, and Muslims is Prophet Ibrahim (Abraham, PBUH). He built the
Kaba in Makkah with his firstborn son Ismael (PBUH). This was an order from Allah (SWT) that Ibrahim and Ismael (PBUT) construct this
Holy House of Allah (SWT) as a place of worship for all the believers on earth. Ismael (PBUH) was 17 at the time he and his father built
the Kaba. Prophet Muhammad (PB UH), a descendent of the Prophet Ismael (PBUH), would come nearly 2,500 years after Kaba was built
and repurify it as a holy place of worship according to the teachings of the Prophet Ibrahim (PBUH). As stated in the Torah and in the
Holy Quran "all the generations will be blessed through I brahim (PBUH)" (Genesis 12 and 18 Holy Bible, Chp 2 Verses 123-141 Holy
Quran).
In Jerusalem, Prophet Ibrahim (PBUH) also established a place of worship. This place would later be known as The House Of Allah (God),
or Beteyel. Forty years after the construction of Kaba, Prophet Ibrahim expanded this place of worship. Isaac (PBUH), Prophet Ibrahim's
younger son, worshipped in Beteyel, but also made journeys to Kaba in Makkah for Hajj (Pilgrimage) as did Ibrahim (PBUH). Jacob
(PBUH) the second son of Isaac (PBUH), extended Beteyel as a place of worship for all the believers of Allah (God) in the region. The
natives of the land, the Palestinians, believers in the teachings of the Prophet Ibrahim (PBUH), also worshipped in Beteyel or The House
Of Allah (God). Ibrahim (PBUH), referred to Beteyel as "Masjid Al-Aqsa", which means the farthest place of worship of the One God.
Prophet Ibrahim (PBUH), was stating that Masjid Al-Aqsa was the farthest place of worship west of Kaba in Makkah.
Some years later, Prophet Joseph (PBUH), the son of Jacob (PBUH) attained a high position of power in Egypt, he sent for all of his
family to come live with him in Egypt away from the poverty of Palestine. There were 33 in all, Jacob (PBUH), his children and his
grandchildren (Genesis 46 in the Torah). Because there was no one left from Jacob's (PBUH) tribe to care for Beteyel, Jacob (PBUH),
intrusted care of Beteyel or Masjid Al-Aqsa to the natives of the area, the Palestinians. This was acceptable due to the fact that the natives
were also followers of the Patriarch, the Prophet Ibrahim (PBUH). The Israelites remained in Egypt for four hundred years as slaves to the
Egyptians with no connection to Palestine, the land from which they immigrated (Genesis 15 Verse 13-17). This choice was not forced on
them, they simply chose to leave Palestine for the sake of the wealth and riches in Egypt.
In the time of Prophet Moses (PBUH), the Israelites were still slaves to the Egyptians. Allah (God) ordered Moses (PBUH), after freeing the
Israelites from bondage, to lead them to Palestine. The Israelites rejected this order from Allah (God), and preferred to live in the desert of
Sinai, rather than to sacrifice themselves for the sake of Allah (God). They believed this land belonged to the Palestinians, the natives of
the area.
For fourty years, the Israelites wandered in the desert of Sinai. A new generation was born, and from it came forth Prophet David (PBUH),
he would lead this generation of believers to Palestine. Prophet David (PBUH) established his kingdom in part of Palestine, and controlled
Jerusalem. His son, Prophet Soloman (King Solomon) (PBUH) rebuilt Masjid Al-Aqsa with the help of the natives, and next to it he built
the ruler's palace. After Prophet Solomon's death, his two sons divided his kingdom amongst themselves. Each son established his own
kingdom and each had its own capital. From both of these kingdoms, Allah (God) raised prophets. According to Jewish history, these
kingdoms existed for nearly two hundred years.
In 586 B.C., King Je-hoia-chin of Jerusalem, saw that he might lose his kingdom. He was the last Jewish king who tried to resist the
Babylonians in Jerusalem. In his struggle, his kingdom was surrounded by the Babylonians who cut off supplies from the outside world.
When the inhabitants of Jerusalem ran out of food and water, the king made a tunnel to enable his soldiers to escape and retrieve
supplies from the outside world. Part of the tunnel collapsed, the resistance led by King Je-hoia-chin was defeated, and the Babylonians
took over Jerusalem. The tunnel used by King Je-hoia-chin, is the same tunnel being excavated today in Jerusalem. After the
Babylonians conquered Jerusalem, they took its inhabitants as slaves to Babylon.
The Babylonian King Nebuchadnezzar destroyed what King Solomon had built in Jerusalem (Kings 2 Chapters 24 and 25 of the Bible).
According to the word of God in the Torah, the Israelites were made to be slaves in both the Nile and in the Euphrates.
After seventy years of slavery in Babylon, King Cyrus of Persea gave the Israelites their freedom. At that time very few of the Israelites
returned to Palestine. These few Israelites worshipped only in The House Of Allah. For generations, the Israelites took care of Beteyel or
Masjid Al-Aqsa. During the period when the Roman Empire was in constant battle with the Persean Empire, the Israelites aided the
Perseans, and benefited when the Perseans had control of Jerusalem. Because the Israelites supported the Persean Empire as spies and
in other ways, the Romans treated them as enemies of the Roman Empire.
In 70 A.D., the Romans destroyed (burned) Beteyel, and converted it into a place of Roman idol worship (Jupitor,etc.). In 315 A.D., when
the Roman Emperor Constantine converted to Christianity, the Romans had no regard for Beteyel. It became a place were the inhabitants
of Jerusalem, including the Jews threw their garbage. The Jews no longer considered Beteyel a Holy Shrine.
The Persean Empire defeated the Romans in 614 A.D., the Jews were now able to worship where they wished, but chose not to worship in
Beteyel or Masjid Al-Aqsa. The Perseans controlled Jerusalem until 624 A.D. The Jews, who were in a position of power during this
period, tortured the Arab Christians. Jerusalem was in need of a just ruler. Both the Christians and the Jews had suffered under different
empires, and both knew that the Holy Scriptures promised the coming of a ruler to save them from all this unjust torture and aggression.
The Israelites were awaiting the coming of the Messiah, who would be king and ruler, and would defeat all the evil empires, as promised
by Allah (God). The only Prophet in history to have accomplished this task, was Prophet Muhammad (PBUH). Prophet Muhammad
(PBUH) and his followers defeated all the empires of the time, establishing the Kingdom Of God (Islamic State) throughout the region.
This included Jerusalem as promised by Allah to the Muslims (Daniel 2 Verse 44 and Mathew 21 Verse 43). The Israelites had tried to
fulfill this prophecy in 165 B.C., under the leadership of Judah Makabi. Within three years, he was defeated by the Romans, who regained
complete control of Jerusalem. Prophet Jesus (PBUH), was also unable to accomplish this task mentioned in the Holy Scriptures. It was
the Prophet from Arabia, Prophet Muhammad (PBUH) who fulfilled this prophecy.
In 621 A.D., the Prophet Muhammad (PBUH) ascended to the heavens in the night known as Israa and Mirag to the Muslims (Malachi 3
Verse 1-14). In that night, Prophet Muhammad (PBUH) led all the Prophets of Allah (PBUT) in prayer in the Holy Mosque (Masjid Al-
Aqsa). For this reason, Masjid Al-Aqsa is a holy place of worship for the Muslims, along with Kaba in Makkah and The Prophet's (PBUH)
Mosque in Medina. These are the three most important Mosques to the Muslims.
In 637 A.D., the Christian leader of Jerusalem, Snaifors, realized through the holy Scriptures (Zeckariah 9 Verses 9 and 10), that the
second leader of the Islamic State, Umar ibn Al-Khatab, fits the description of the one who would open Jerusalem and free it from the evil
empires. Snaifors surrendered peacefully. Umar ibn Al-Khatab and the Muslims, after securing Jerusalem, again established Masjid Al-
Aqsa as a holy place of worship. Both the Christians and the Jews were pleased with the arrival of Umar and the Muslims, and with the
just rule under the Islamic State.
In the eleventh century, the European Christians in the crusades, tortured the Jews and the Muslims. They burned the Jews in the their
Temples and they burned the Muslims in Masjid Al-Aqsa. The European Christians even tortured the Arab Christians and destroyed their
churches. The Jews fled to Indulis (Spain), to receive protection under Islamic rule or a Muslim society. In 1189 A.D., the leader of the
Muslim army, Salah Aldeen Al-Ayobi expelled the European Christians from Jerusalem, and returned Jerusalem to Islamic rule. The
Christian, Jews, and Muslims lived in harmony under Islamic rule.
In 1948, with the help of the western powers, the Jews were able to fulfill the promise of the British foreign minister, Bill Ford. This
promise was made in 1917 regarding the Jews' return to the holy land, Palestine. In the time of Moses (PBUH), when ordered by Allah
(God) to return to Palestine, the Israelites disobeyed the will of Allah (God). Once the Jews again controlled Jerusalem, they expelled and
tortured the natives of Palestine from their land, and the area returned to a state of unrest (Haggie 2 Verse 7-9).
In the 1980's, the Israelis started an archaeological project in the area of the Dome of the Rock (Masjid Al-Aqsa). They began excavation
claiming that they were searching for the Temple Of King Solomon. They were unable to locate the Temple Of King Solomon, but in the
process discover ed the tunnel of King Je-hoia-chin. The Israelis claimed that the search was a success only because they discovered the
collapsed tunnel of King Je-hoia-chin, which is in no way related to the Temple of King Solomon. This tunnel has no religious
significance, it only has historical significance. The entrance was then sealed and today has been reopened without justification. The
significance to the Muslims is well understood, they fear for Masjid Al-Aqsa and its foundation, and that in some way this excavation can
damage the Holy Mosque. The significance of this dig to the Jews is not yet understood, clearly there is no religious significance. Prime
Minister Netanyahu has said this openly is his news conference at the White House. The question thus remains, why if this archaeological
dig can lead to so much unrest, do the Israelis insist that it remain open?
The Farthest Mosque (Al-Masjid-ul-
Aqs-a) was built many years after the
death of Muhammad. It is utterly
impossible that Muhammad visited it
on his Night Journey. Moreover, the Furthest Mosque
was not in existence at the time of
Muhammad, but was built about a
hundred years after his death! How
could he have prayed in it, then, or
described its gates and windows? Why would Muhammad had to go
to Masjidul’ Aqsa in order to go to heaven? Is the gate of heaven in Jerusalem? When Omar conquered Jerusalem he
performed a prayer in the site where
Temple of Solomon used to stand. The
Romans in 70 A.D destroyed that temple.
Since then no temple, church or mosque
stood on that spot. It was Calif ‘Abd al-
Malik ibn Marwan who built the Dome of
the Rock around 691 A.D. i.e 72 years after
Hijrah. And Masjidu’l Aqsa was built on the
Temple Mount by the end of the 7th
century. This is reported in The Concise
Encyclopedia of Islam, Harper & Row, 1989,
p. 46 and 102. Site Of The Temple Mount In The Future
Jewish Capital Of Jerusalem 2 Samuel
24:21-25
The choosing of the site came when God
punished Israel because King David
ordered a census of the Jewish people after
he defeated of the Philistines in a great
battle. The sin was King David's
presumption that the salvation of the
people came from their sheer numbers and
not the Hand of G-d. A pestilence followed
which only ceased when the prophet Gad
advised King David to erect an altar on the
stone threshing floor on Mt. Moriah that
belonged to Araunah, the Jebusite. So King
David purchased the site for 600 silver
shekels, for which he assessed 50 silver
shekels from each tribe. (1 Chronicles
21:25)
King David built the altar and the plague
ceased. The site was on Mount Moriah
where Abraham had prepared to sacrifice
his son Isaac in obedience to G-d's
Command as this final test of Abraham's
faith. This then was the place where the
future Jerusalem was to be built and the
site of the First and Second Temples. As a
man of war, King David was not allowed to
build the Temple, so the task fell to his son
King Solomon, who built the First Temple
on the Temple Mount. These facts of recorded history have been
obliterated by the recent false claims made
in the name of radical Islamic
Fundamentalism supported by the silence
of scholars unwilling to face a 'Fatwa' of
assassination as was issued against Salman
Rusdie. Moreover, the World Media, with
full access to Biblical scholars and historical
files, have instead accepted the Great Lie.
They carry it forward without question and
with a certain perverse enthusiasm, having
refused to use the Bible (Torah) as a
resource. They also have neglected to read
the opinions of such experts as the 13th
Century Arab biographer Yakut who noted:
"Mecca is holy to Muslims; Jerusalem is holy
to the Jews." (2)
The history of Jerusalem and the site of the
Jewish Holy Temple, constructed in 956
B.C.E. (2956 years ago) by King Solomon,
son of King David according to G-d's
specific instructions is fully described with
minute detail in the Torah. The First Temple
was later destroyed by the Babylonian
conqueror, Nebuchadnezzar in 586 B.C.E.
(2370 years ago). This was not the first
attempt to destroy the Jewish people but
was significant in its goal to eliminate what
was the repository of Jewish strength and
belief.The Second Temple was rebuilt by
order of Cyrus, the King of Persia, who also
paid for its reconstruction and ordered the
return of the Jews exiled to Babylon in 538
B.C.E. The Second Temple was completed
and consecrated in 515 B.C.E. (2, 3 & 4)
King Herod, a great builder but a cruel,
despotic ruler appointed by the Romans
rebuilt and added to the Second Temple for
46 years. After the Jews revolted against
Roman rule, the Romans under Titus
destroyed and burned the Second Temple
beginning on the Ninth of Av (Tisha B'Av),
70 C.E. (1930 years ago). You may recall
seeing photos of the carvings on the Arch
of Titus in Rome, depicting Titus' triumphal
march through Rome, parading the sacred
Temple vessels, including the great
Menorah (Candelabra).
The Romans sent the Jews into exile again
for 1,878 years. However, for all that time
there was a Jewish presence and those
dispersed across the globe prayed daily -
"Next Year in Jerusalem!" The City and the
Temple have always been central to Jewish
thought and identity. (Note! Despite
Arafat's claim that there was no Jewish
connection to the Temple, the Romans
memorialized their capture of the Jews and
their Temple in 70 C.E. by carving it in
stone.) The streets of Jerusalem and the
Holy Jewish Temple were walked upon by
Jewish Kings and Prophets long before the
7th century C.E. when a man named
Mohammed had a vision that he was the
last chosen prophet of G-d, the G-d they
called Allah. Mohammed was driven out of
Mecca by the Arab community and fled to
Medina which had three Jewish tribes.
Mohammed offered himself to the Jews as
G-d's (Allah) final Prophet. For 19 months
Mohammed offered his "quibla" (direction
of his prayers) toward Jerusalem as a
ÇÄòconfidence-building gesture', until the
Jews refused to believe his claims and
totally rejected him. Then Mohammed
gathered the pagan desert tribes under his
visionary image. Mohammed used the trick
of a temporary truce (permitted in Islam) to
make a treaty called the Hudaibiya Treaty
with the Jewish Koraish tribe. But, in 628
C.E. at the Khaidar Oasis, Mohammed killed
them. Arafat often claims that the Oslo
Treaty is similar to the Hudaibiya Treaty
which Mohammed violated with impunity
when he was militarily stronger. Nothing is more important to the
foundations and development of Islam
than the re-casting of Biblical personalities
into newly assigned roles as devout
Muslims. Shaping Israelite patriarchs into
ancient Muslims who worshiped
Muhammad’s god. Biblical prophets were not muslims.
IslamRe: The Quoran Say's That Israel Belongs To The Jews. True Or False? by mustang44: 9:01pm On Sep 13, 2014
Empiree: Olodo!
Go hug transformer! DAN ISKA!
IslamRe: The Quoran Say's That Israel Belongs To The Jews. True Or False? by mustang44: 6:08pm On Sep 13, 2014
LagosShia: first of all, the Qur'an doesn't recognize Jews as a religious group. the Quran in other words doesn't recognie Judaism as a religion.

the Holy Qur'an reads:

"religion to Allah is Islam"..."and whoever seeks a religion other than Islam shall be amongst the losers".

secondly, lands belong to people and not to religions. it is people that choose what religion to follow. the land was given to the "children of israel" to worship Allah (swt). we read also in the Holy Quran: "Abraham was neither a Jew, Christian or Pagan, but was a monotheist, a Muslim". so the religion of the children of Israel was Islam (submission to the will of Allah). or from a neutral, non-Muslim view, they did not have an institutionalized religion back then. Judaism was a later invention to identify with the set of beliefs and practices that the people who lived in Judea lived by. like i have mentioned, lands belong to people, not to religions. imagine voodoo worshipers in haiti returning to Nigeria and asking Nigerians who identify themselves as Christians and Muslims today to leave because Nigeria was once a land for traditional religion!

thirdly, who says the Palestinians do not have israelite decent? there are Palestinians with Israelite lineage/decent/heritage. through conquests and invasions of Palestine, the people overwhelmingly convert to Islam and became an arabic speaking people through assimilation/arabicization, and through intermarriage. being that the arabian conquest was the last and left the most impact through the policy of embracing local populations (assimilation), the people of palestine ended up being arabic speaking.

and by the way, whatever arguments, religious, historical or ethnic, it makes no sense for a man thousands of miles away to come to your land and claim it because he believes God gave it to him, or that his ancestors once lived there, and therefore he would go on to snatch your house, bulldoze it, and destroy your life because he's powerful. if that is right and just, then the earth would be a living hell. many of our ancestors could have been from somewhere 2000 years ago. do we go about driving people and taking over their houses and destroying their lives? what sort of judeo-christian God is this? isn't this theft and terror that Zionists (be they Christians or Jews) promote in God's name? imagine if it were Muslims claiming a land because their ancestors lived there 2000 years ago. in fact, on that ground, Muslims can easily claim over Spain because it was once a Muslims land with a majority Muslim population.

furthermore, the history of Palestine did not even start with Abraham from whom both Israelis and Palestinians claim descent. before Abraham, there were people in Palestine. what happened to them? the israelites fought them and took over the land and committed genocide against them. read the old testament. and it is the blessing of tolerance and co-existence that have resulted into the palestinian people. they are descendants from many nations and religions, including those tribes that pre-existed Abraham. that land doesn't belong to one people or one religion. therefore nothing as an apartheid, racist Jewish state should be there. the people of palestine-Jews, Muslims and Christians, and both the hebrew and arabic speaking ones- should all live as one in a unified palestine for all.
You and your fellow deluded muslims should keep hallucinating that Abraham or all the prophets in the bible were all muslims! Did Abraham call himself a muslim? Did the other prophets in the bible call themselves muslims? Muhammad was the founder of islam, so islam started with muhammad. Abraham and the other prophets lived and died for many years before muhammad was even conceived. How did they all suddenly become muslims? Judaism, Christianity, Zoroastrianism, Hinduism, Bhudism are all monotheistic religions and they all predate islam. So do not even try to make it look as if monotheism started with islam. Why dint you blame muslims for taking pple's lands by conquest? Did the Spanish invite muslims to take over spain? NO! Spain was taken through islamic conquest.
IslamRe: Is Jesus Going To Hell? by mustang44: 11:53am On Sep 13, 2014
Abdulsalam20: THIS question is for everybody............ christians is this true and for muslim did u believe what this people allege on yisa

Jesus said, "whosoever shall say, Thou
fool, shall be in danger of hell fire" (Matt. 5:22). Yet,
he himself did so repeatedly, as Matt. 23:17,
Blind fools, which is greater, the gold, or the temple that made the gold sacred?
LUKE 11:40
Ye fools, did not he that made that which is without make
that which is within also?
PLS IS JESUS ACTUALLY GOING TO HELL
Itz like u do not have any other work apart from coming to nairaland and start attacking christianity! How is islam better than christianity or other religions? How has islam contributed to the development of the world or world pease? Muhammad woke up one day in the 7th century arabia, invented a religion and called it islam and expected everybody to dump their own religion and follow him. That is why muslims use war and terror to keep pple in line. The world is not like b4 when muslims are on rampage going about conquering lands, killing those who refused to become muslims or forcing pple to pay heavy tax called jizyah. That is why i like isreal so much! If any islamic country attack isreal, they do not hesitate to attack back. This is the best way to fight you muslims.
IslamRe: Islam - The Fastest Growing Religion In USA by mustang44: 8:19pm On Sep 10, 2014
gamesgiven: Todd Wilson, a third-generation Italian American, swore off his beloved prosciutto. Thy Loun, a refugee from Cambodia now attending UC Davis, had to give up her twice-weekly staple of double-pepperoni pizza. Wilson, 31, and Loun, 21, say they've sacrificed their favorite foods (both made from pork) for something more fulfilling: their belief in Islam. They are among an increasing number of converts who have made Islam the fastest-growing religion in America.

There are now as many as 7 million Muslims in the United States, half of them American-born. In recent years, Americans of African, European, Southeast Asian, Latin American and American Indian descent have left their parents' spiritual paths to follow Islam, a religion that includes more than 1 billion believers from nearly every country.

- See more at: http://www.tellmeaboutislam.com/islam-is-the-fastest-growing-religion-in-the-usa.html#sthash.yjOM26ZH.dpuf
How is this benefiting the economy of USA? PLease kindly tell us.
IslamRe: Going To Hajj In The Bible(evidence) by mustang44:
Abdulsalam20: YOUR EVIDENCE FOR ALL THIS U SAID........IF YOU CANT QUOTE EVIDENCE FOR ME PLS DONT QUOTE ME AGAIN OR IF U CANT GIVE TANGIBLE EVIDENCE AGINST MY CLAIM.........I ONLY ARGUE WITH EVIDENCE
If u think u can come to nairaland and just cook something from one ENCYCLOPEDIA and expect us to eat it, think again. This is 21st century, the world is more civilized now! This is not 7th century arabia that muslims go about besieging people, taking over their lands and making people pay heavy tax called jizyah. You also said that jerusalem is cursed. But muhammad claimed he traveled from mecca to jerusalem using alburaq then to heaven. Why didnt muhammad travel straight from mecca muslims claim is the most holy place on earth but muhammad had to go to jerusalem first. Does it make any sense to you?
IslamRe: Going To Hajj In The Bible(evidence) by mustang44: 12:43pm On Sep 10, 2014
Abdulsalam20: @ MALVISGUY U SAID THE ANGEL SAID READ IN THE NAME OF YOUR LORD WITHOUT HOLDING ANY DOCUMENT AND HE SAID I AM NOT LEARNED IT IS EVIDENT IN THE BIBLE
Muhammad (pbuh) is prophesised in the book of Isaiah:
It is mentioned in the book of Isaiah chapter 29 verse 12:
"And the book is delivered to him that is not learned, saying,
Read this, I pray thee: and he saith, I am not learned."
When Archangel Gabrail commanded Muhammad (pbuh) by
saying Iqra - "Read", he replied, "I am not learned" .SO READ UR BOOK WELL AND UNDERSTAND IT
Another big islamic hallucination. There is absolutely nothing concerning muhammad in the bible. No kabba or mecca in the bible too. Muslims are wasting their time looking for anything islamic in the bible, because they are not there.
IslamRe: Going To Hajj In The Bible(evidence) by mustang44: 3:49pm On Sep 09, 2014
Abdulsalam20: AFTER ALL THE EVIDENCE I PROVIDED.......WHAT A BIAS MIND!........EVERYTHING I POSTED IS WITH EVIDENCE IN FACT TO ME IT MORE SOPHISTICATED I GIVE U EVIDENCE FROM AN ENCYCLOPEDIA WEBSITE........SO FOR U TO PROVE ME WRONG U MUST HAVE A SOUND REFERENCE FOR IT OR ELSE IT WILL BE TAGGED AS NULL AND VOID
You provided no evidence! Muslims are just trying to connect Muhammad to Abraham through Ishmael by all means to gain acceptance from the christians and the jews. Ishmael was not the father of arabians period. Another lie of muslims is to say that all prophets are muslims. Even Ishmael was not a muslim Or arabian. finally, stop copying and pasting.
IslamRe: Going To Hajj In The Bible(evidence) by mustang44: 6:24pm On Sep 08, 2014
Abdulsalam20: SO WIKIPEDIA WILL LIE SMH grin grin grin grin...........WIKIPEDIA WILL HAVE SPECIFY IF IT IS JERUSALEM
JERUSALEM IS NO MORE AN HOLY LAND
JEREMIAH 13:27 "I God have seen your adultery and evil and
arrogance,WOE,unto you JERUSALEM never shall you be
holy again"
GALANTIANS 4:25 "Because Hangar is the Sinai mountain of
Arabia that stands for the (cursed) Jerusalem of today.
Please try and be rational. King David was talking about his fellow hebrew pple not to some Arabia dudes. why should hebrew pple ignore their own pilgrimage site in jerusalem and travel through the harsh arabian desert to mecca for pilgrimage? No prophet in the bible went to mecca for pilgrimage why should their followers go to mecca for pilgrimage? Do you think is only mecca pple go to for pilgrimag?
IslamRe: Going To Hajj In The Bible(evidence) by mustang44: 4:10pm On Sep 08, 2014
Abdulsalam20: THIS IS AN EVIDENCE FROM AN ENCYCLOPEDIA WEBSITE THAT ARABIANS ARE DESCENDANT OF ISMAHEEL FIRST SON OF ABRAHAM(HAZRAT IBRAHIM www.en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ishmael
Dont even try to make it look as if Ishmael is the father of all arabians or Ishmael built arabia. Arabia has beign in existence and populated for many years before Ishmael was even conceived. Ishmael is not the father of Arabs or
the Arabians, it existed before he was
ever born. Pple came from different places to populate arabia too. Let me tell you, there is no proof that Muhammad was a descendant of Ismeal.
IslamRe: Going To Hajj In The Bible(evidence) by mustang44: 7:30pm On Sep 02, 2014
The pilgrimage mentioned in Psalm 84:5,6, is clearly to Jerusalem, as
evidenced by the rest of the psalm. Why
on earth would Jews, living in Israel
and on their way to Jerusalem, take a
huge detour through Mecca? The
only link between the Bacca mentioned in the bible and the Bakkah of
the Quran is a superficial similarity in
name, nothing more.
Foreign AffairsRe: BREAKING: Uganda Supreme Court Strike Down Anti-gay Law. by mustang44: 6:20pm On Aug 01, 2014
If you want be gay na you sabi, na your bady, na your choice! For me, am straight all the way!
IslamRe: At Last: Bible In Which Jesus Foretold The Coming Of Prophet Muhammed Found by mustang44: 5:36pm On Jan 10, 2014
This is absolutely delusional! pure lies!
IslamRe: Is Quran Copied From Thebible? by mustang44: 3:43pm On Dec 15, 2013
Muslims please stop fooling yourselves. You cannot tell us that the story of the preservation of the body of pharou was revealed in the quoran because pharou's body was preserved before muhammad was born and invented islam and even before muhammad claimed the quran was revealed to him. You cannot call a story everybody already knows about a revelation.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Stoke City Vs Chelsea (3 - 2) On 7th December 2013 by mustang44: 4:09pm On Dec 07, 2013
line up: Cech; Ivanovic, Azpilicueta, Cahill, Terry;
Mikel, Schurrle, Ramires, Mata, Hazard;
Torres.
Car TalkRe: Users Of Tinted Glass Risk N50,000 Fine, 6-Month Jail Term —Senate by mustang44: 1:53pm On Nov 23, 2013
NONESENSE! WHY DIDN'T SENATE PASS A BILL TO STOP CORRUPTION? NA PPLE WEY GET CARS WITH TINTED GLASSES THEY DEY PASS BILL AGAINST. HOW IS THIS MOVE GOING TO TAKE NIGERIA FORWARD?
IslamRe: Muslim Population Around The World And The Birth-place Of Some Prophets. by mustang44: 5:01pm On Nov 17, 2013
Muslims, 75% of Nigeria population? This is 100% lie.
IslamRe: How Man Wives Did Muhammad Actually Have? by mustang44: 4:51pm On Nov 06, 2013
Sweetnecta: the condition of the messenger [sa] is different from that of the general muslims.

for example, he was commanded to make nightly prayers.
muslims can but not as it is in the case of the messenger which is a must.

so his condition with marriage though politically is different in conditions to the general muslims who are limited to 4 at the same time but can continue to divorce and marry throughout life as long it is not more that 4 at anytime.

Muhammad [sa] was told in surah azhab, if all his wives were die or divorce from him, no more wife. so he could have been without a wife at the time of death, whereas the general muslims can have 4 wives at the time of death.

Muhammad [sa] would not charity, but gifts, whereas the general muslims can eat charity.

Muhammad's position is special and its a good thing and the allowance for him on marriage brought success and political victory, alliances and peace to the young and growing community.
YOU ARE CLEARLY TELLING US THAT MUHAMMAD GOT MARRIED TO MANY WIVES TO FORM ALLIANCES AND FOR POLITICAL REASONS. LET ME TELL YOU. GOD DOES NOT SENT PEOPLE EMPTY HANDED TO DO SOMETHING FOR HIM. WHEN GOD SENT MOSES GOD GAVE MOSES A STAFF AND MOSES PERFORMED MIRACLES WITH IT AND RESCUED THE ISREALITES FROM EGYTP WITH THE STAFF. WHEN JESUS CAME: JESUS CAME WITH THE POWER TO PERFORM MIRACLES, HEALINGS ETC. BUT MUHAMMAD CAME ON THE SCENE WITH NOTHING THAT MEANS HE CAME ON HIS OWN, THAT WAS WHY MUHAMMAD MARRIED MANY WIVES TO FORM ALLIANCE WITH PEOPLE AND GAIN POLITICAL POWER TO ACHIEVE HIS GOALS.

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