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vedaxcool:

When you behave like this you might succeed in shutting up some of the Christians, but what about those who are neither Christians nor Moslems who are reading and are weighing which religion to join? You simply tell them by your you, nko. . . responses: "See, Islam is indeed very barbaric, but so is Christianity." What does that do for you?

You apparently do not like hearing the truth as I said this happened in your Christian History and alluded to the fact that they were men acting out of Ignorance and Bigotic fanaticism, But you are only contented in replying anyway, please sir make sense, the op and others must be to understand how Ignorance ccan damage any society. As for those who are neither Christians or Muslims that read such why didn't you tell the OP, why? he decided to Start the Thread and This Info can easily be found is not as if I sit on the Doors of Knowledge, and Your last statement Islam is indeed very barbaric, but so is Christianity." What does that do for you?" only shows how honest you are as a person,, as [i]My entire response Proved beyond reasonable, that Far from Being Barbaric, Islam saved the POlygots of Mecca and Vanquished Idolatry beyond the shores of MECCA, [/i]My reply places thing in the right context, Ignorance leads people to take Rash and misguided actions, if the truth causes you discomfort then find someone else to to Lie to you as I pray to ALLAH to protect me from engaging in Falsehood.

nopuqeater:
@Phillips0600: I doubt if a Pakistani citizenry is Christian, because that country was formed away from India because of purity of Islam.

Pastor AIO:
Then all thought/all conception is misconception. I very much agree.

vedaxcool:
Hardly am i angry as this fools even insult Jesus so to me they are like wild goats with no domestic training , I doubt whether you know any thing about history or even understand contemporary politics, I laugh when I read your post as it shows the extent of Ignoprance of the average Christian in NL. but I go further to giove you a lesson in History: I ask when the Europeans enslaved Africa was it our fault or were we looking for trouble, when the Europeans Colonised Most of the Arab world I ask who was Looking for trouble, You talk of terrorist, i ask how many are they, what percentage of Muslims do they constitute? Typically it is common you read nonsense like this but when you ask for Statistics they give you none, the Question is Why? because it is Bull. in statistics you cannot use an insignificant part of a population to Judge the entire Population, But in Christianity that is their benchmark for passing Judgement, Indeed anybody that studies European History will be conversant of how their Christian Fanaticism can be, Imagine that Europe spent 1000's of years persecueting the Jews on very daft grounds, even Your Church Fathers supported such stupidity, that is how foolishness can be found in their system of critic, they denigrate, insult, lampoo,etc all forms of anti-islamic tactics simply put their fear of Islam has turned to Hatred,the same way their fear of the Jews made them hate them to the extent of Genocidal extermination, Please go and read! Iqra! to understand the history of Europe

Compared with what was written and said by some of the most prominent Christian reformers of the past, such as Martin Luther of Germany, Pope Urbana II, Francis Voltaire of France, Queen Isabella of Spain or Queen Victoria of Colonial Britain, Charles Moore's December 12 article in the London Daily Telegraph is a very mild attack on Islam.

MyJoe:
I think it's the small minority of Moslems who carry out terrorist attacks that kill indiscriminately - men, women, children, Christians, Moslems, politicians, soldiers, civilians - from Pakistan to Mali, from London to Algiers, that mould these people's opinion of Islam. I think these terrorists are your real enemies since their bad actions shape people's perception of your religion.

vedaxcool:
You are funny as I did say you nko but replied and gave indication that this kind of things happened when people are Ignorant just like the spain episode, furthermore people like you are hardly sincere as other people brought extraneous issue into the thread but you holy ghost did not make you see them abi? Further more you said India was not ruled by Muslims , I ask where are from or did you read any history books to come to your conclusion.

MyJoe:
By the way, India is not ruled by Muslims.

vedaxcool:
Strangely enough there was an instance in which A Muslim converted to Christianity during the Life time of the Prophet and he was not killed, and the Prophet did say actions will be Judged according to intention meaning that what ever one does will be Judged on the one's conscience,the majority that surpported not being able to convert are Ignorant as the Qur'an says there should be no compulsion in religion, and asked on different occasions "would you force men to believe" this common sense if Ignored by those that voted against free conversions have only done so out of their Ignorance as even going through Islamic history you will come to a conclusion that people were left to do as their conscience as Places like India, still maintain a large Hindu Majority despite being ruled by Muslims, even Muslims ruled Spain for 100's of years yet the Bulk of the population were still non - Muslims, but when Christians took over the Kingdom they Killed, maimed and Torture(People were burnt) both Muslims and Jews to convert back to Christianity, This Just one of the Many of cases of going over the top to achieve what they want. Ignorance is very Much a disease.

manmustwac:
I already changed the topic title to ''NIGHT OF BLISS with Pastor Chris at the O2 Arena. Were You There?'' But i can't edit the information in your post. Just click on the modify button to the right of the post and do it yourself.

vedaxcool:
Brother Ahmed I love your post. Jazakulahukhayr, amin.
This is nothing new if you ask me, read their history,even at one point their pope would accept anybody even people like Voltaire so long they [/b]Insult Islam, you will come to the understanding that that is how [b]they are trained, their entire. With all their education they bearly distinguishable from a godless Pig. I am hardly Move neither am I amazed, to my Muslim brothers I will always Urge rational and well calculated response that is what we need, their hatred for anything Islam continue to show the falsehood[b] they[/b] live in, Demonstrations are not the answer rather an intellectual approach should be the key in repulsing the evils of this new form of godlessness.

vescucci:
Lol. Nuke meant 1 as 3. Jeez, I lol a lot nowadays.

mazaje:
Converting into atheism wasn't easy at all because I had to drop all what I was made to believe was true and real, It was quite uncomfortable at the beginning, I almost went crazy, you might not believe it but its true. . . . . .Once I converted but was not fully sure of my position, I decided to try things for myself. . . , Had to go out of my way just to test and see if the most of the stuffs I grew up hearing and was made to believe exist were real , wanted to know if the supernatural claims I hear all the time is true, did so many weird stuffs, like sleeping in the grave yard alone, walking alone in villages where there are stories of witches and wizards causing havoc, deliberately upsetting and fighting with witch doctors so that they will harm me, becoming friends with children that were labeled as witches or in one secret cult or the other etc did so many weird stuffs just because i wanted to know if the supernatural is real, but nothing. . . . .I found out from my own personal investigations that they were not real. . .As for Christianity once I studied he bible, its history, how it was written , when it was written, who wrote the books and the entire church history, I was convinced that it was entirely a man made thing. . . . . .

Here is my de-conversion  story. . . . .

https://www.nairaland.com/nigeria/topic-316436.0.html

Pastor AIO:
The approximate them sufficienty enough for miscommunication to have a field day.  Why not?  Might even start the occasional major war.  Waahaaay!!

Jenwitemi: Guys, if you know jenwitemi very well, you would have realized by now that he does not set his stall on one particular school of thought. In order for one to have any chance of understanding this reality that we experience, the first thing that one needs to do is to free oneself of a permanent attachement to a particular paradigm. As we search for the truth behind the universe, we need to first of all rid ourselves of the old rgid paradigms that explains little to nothing and be open for new ones. That demands a total paradigm shift and thinking big in our part.
So, jenwitemi does not belong to any particular theological group, but rather is roaming as he searches for the truth. The terms that you are trying to attach to jenwi are totally irrelevant and rejected. I have no need or use for labels.

Sagamite:
And yes I know what faith is. One thing it definitely is not is fact.

Faith is hope. To practice it, you do not have to question it, just hope it is right and have hope it would solve your problems.

It is not assurance, it is insurance. You can pay all the premium but there is no guarantee you will need it.

Nothing people with faith have achieved or can achieve that those without can or have not.

drnonye: please please please STOP CALLING IBB AN Evil Genius.

THERE IS NOTHING , ABSOLUTELY NOTHING GENIUS ABOUT HIM.  EVIL , YES.  BUT DEFINITELY NOT A GENIUS.

JeSoul:
My dear Cap, while I appreciate your knowledge on the history of slavery, you misappropriated my last response. Here is what I said again: I said - "in many many instances it would not have happened". That does not equate in ALL instances we sold ourselves. My simple point was that we also share in the blame in many cases, and cannot simply "blame the white man" for all of slavery.

JeSoul: This can be equated to commenting on a 100 ton massive trainwreck of twisted metal that crushed scores and scores of people in cars on a train track, but yet pointing to a small window in the bathroom of the last storage car, and saying, look, at least that window didn't break, it withstood the accident.

MyJoe:
@op
(1) Is it true that human sacrifices are still routinely demanded by some orisha and are carried out by some of these societies such as the Reformed Ogboni Fraternity, Oro, and is one of the rituals carried out when an oba passes on?

(2) The Reformed Ogboni Fraternity was (re)formed by a Christian minister early in the last century. How about the old traditional Ogboni. Does it still exist?

mazaje:
The Real Question: Is it possible to believe NDEs are 'supernatural' after all of these years of research, study, experimentation, etc. that shows it's all in your brain?. . . . . . .

nuclearboy:
Mad_Max:

After your last three posts, I wonder if I have the nerve to type the following. I'll just cross my fingers and log out instanta.

Truth is, I never thought about it. That said, I personally believe there is only one reality - God and that all of us etc are minor portions of that existence. Its the only reason I can find for the (to God) seeming importance of your fellow man and he is important, as I trust you know. Returning to the biblical story of Eden and considering the idea of God coming down to be with the man in the evenings, I feel a desire for something outside of humanity to share with humanity. To achieve that, I believe we come across what Christians refer to as "1 in 3".

But this is just a personal feeling and I sincerely hope it won't be held against me particularly by DS.

See you all next millenia (if Mad_max doesn't take the spanner to me)