rvp20182:
Tanzania under their impulsive tinpot dictator cooking national statistics https://www.economist.com/middle-east-and-africa/2020/07/23/why-tanzanias-statistics-look-fishy

A Potemkin economy - The Economist unveils KaziKazi make-believe sinking country

Quick history

After the cold war ended, much of Africa democratised and opened up. Few countries better embodied the feverish hope of the 1990s than Tanzania. It had suffered grievously in the 1960s and 1970s under its founding leader, Julius Nyerere. A nascent democracy was throttled by one-party rule. An economy with great potential was wrecked by “African socialism”. Some 11m peasants were forced into collective villages, where they went hungry.

In mid 90s - Kenya and South Africa - move in to save the sinking boat.

As state controls were relaxed, investment flowed in. Steady growth more than doubled income per person between 1994 and 2010.4

Now Magufuli is undoing all that.

John Magufuli, who was elected president in 2015, has turned back the clock on democracy by locking up opposition mps and journalists. He has also meddled capriciously in the economy. His government has shaken down firms for cash, arresting their executives and holding them without bail if they do not pay up. It is “almost ransom”,

The mess

Mr Magufuli sent in the army with orders to buy up the crop for 65% more than private traders offered. In the finest socialist traditions he did not pay the farmers for over 18 months. Since then the harvest has slumped by 30%. Farmers are reluctant to plant if they don’t expect to be paid

They forced IMF and WB to report their cooked figures
The imf raised doubts last year when it said there were “serious weaknesses” in the growth data. It pointed out that public-sector wages, lending to the private sector and imports were all falling while tax revenue was growing only weakly. The authors made it clear that the official 6.8% growth figure for 2017 was not credible. Publication of the report was blocked by the Tanzanian authorities. (The Economist has seen a copy.)

The economy is tanking neverthless.

Nonetheless, the concerns raised by the imf did not disappear like their report. Analysis by The Economist using the Tanzanian central bank’s own numbers for the most recent full fiscal year available (2018-19) shows that tax revenue has shrunk in real terms. Discrepancies such as these, says Thorsten Beck of Cass Business School, are “red signals” that gdp may have been overestimated.


IMF cannot do much when you decide to cook Nigeria style.

. “We’re not forensic accountants,” he says. Its latest health check in February has also not been published. The press release that usually accompanies these reports is positive

Magufuli wrecking their economy

Foreign direct investment has almost halved since 2013.
Exports and imports both fell between 2012 and 2018.
Imports of machinery and construction equipment fell between 2015 and 2018, despite claims of booming construction. “

The growth numbers are out of line with almost everything else we are seeing out of Tanzania,” says Justin Sandefur of the Centre for Global Development, a think-tank.

Poverty is increasing - Nigeria style.

Tanzania’s recent growth ought to be evident in ordinary lives. When incomes rise, people buy more beer; yet revenue for Tanzania’s biggest brewer fell in 2018 and 2019. According to door-to-door surveys done in 2012 and 2018, the share of Tanzanians who are extremely poor, 49%, did not change at all over the period. That is almost unheard of. And because Tanzania’s population is growing, the number of extremely poor people has increased by about 4.5m.


Conclusion
Bernard Membe, a former foreign minister who has defected to the opposition, says growth is “exaggerated” and “in fact is less than 3%”. What about Tanzania’s middle-income status? “A very big joke,” says Mr Membe

Obakillah:


Boiling milk is not a science. Witchcraft is not real. Welcome to the 21st century Tanzanian neanderthals.

rvp2018:
Such statistics or averages are easily available. You can ask your milk man next time you see him.

gallivant:


How do you pasteurize milk in Tanzanian villages? Enlighten us Mr. engineer.

gallivant:


Lol

What happened to the companies?

gallivant:


it's very unhealthy and primitive to consume unpasteurized milk.

rvp2018:
I thought everyone has their cow. If they were doing so well - why the malnutrition rates. My friend a Maasai cow producing 1 litre of milk is not enough to sell to the neighborhood.The reality is every rural Tanzania has one or two lactacting cow producing less than enough milk for their own families...they produce 1-1.5 liters per day...not enough to feed large rural families.

For urban areas, you need Kenya dairies, to come sell milk there.

rvp2018:
Your dairy sector is nothing to write home about. You have twice as much land as Kenya. Nearly Twice as much cattle. But you milk production is way lower than Kenya. Uganda I think is doing better because they learnt from kenya.

Kenya we overtook South Africa by investing in AI services - Artificial Insemination - to get Holstein, Freshian, name them - cows from Europe that can produce 25 litres per day.You typical cow produce I bet 1-2 litres per day.

Kenya has Africa largest herd of modern dairy cows - I think nearly 4Million cows now. These are cows that can cost as high as 3-5k dollars.

We have Africa highest milk consumption per capita. While you're busy eating cassava and sweat potatos - and suffering malnutrition

rvp2018:
Your dairy sector is nothing to write home about. You have twice as much land as Kenya. Nearly Twice as much cattle. But you milk production is way lower than Kenya. Uganda I think is doing better because they learnt from kenya.

Kenya we overtook South Africa by investing in AI services - Artificial Insemination - to get Holstein, Freshian, name them - cows from Europe that can produce 25 litres per day.You typical cow produce I bet 1-2 litres per day.

Kenya has Africa largest herd of modern dairy cows - I think nearly 4Million cows now. These are cows that can cost as high as 3-5k dollars.

We have Africa highest milk consumption per capita. While you're busy eating cassava and sweat potatos - and suffering malnutrition

rvp20182:
Invest in hybrid cattle..learn from Kenya with I bet highest number of modern dairy cows in Africa

Abohboy:


But they don’t sell their cows do they, they keep the cows for their milk and blood, Tanzania still imports milk and beef, even though they have over 20 million cows. The productivity of the cows isn’t very high that’s what I mean by subsistent farming they farm for themselves not for an industry which is where the problem is.

Kazikazi:
Do u believe that lie of 1,000 dollars?

Check this dude below.A guy has about 2,000 cows. This is a guy who managed to unearth the world's biggest tanzanite gemstone. He sold and was quickly pronounced as Tanzania's newest millionaire.And all along he was classified as poor in all official data ( IMF, world bank,and gov data).

But that was a lie!
Anyone who owns 2,000 cows isn't poor! And to prove that,a guy had some of his children studying in private school.Yes,he afforded that by selling some of his cows.Look at how he dresses,no designer clothes, no big watches!

So this man,with all his 2,000 cows was recorded as poor.All,or most of 30+ million cows in TZ are owned by ordinary folks who are said to be poor.But is that true? Can a poor man afford to own 2,000 cows? Can a poor man manage to send his children to private schools?

That is how TZ is underreported in many many sectors

Gama12:
lemme give you the list of most developed countries in africa by world Bank.
1.south Africa
2.kenya.
3.Nigeria.
4. Ghana.
5.Tanzania.

Kazikazi:

And its the biggest in east and central africa

TayserMahrii:


La hasha I don't know what you mean by internationally respected but the institute in Dar is easily rivalled by the Research Institute of Swahili Studies of Eastern Africa (RISSEA) in Mombasa. And BAKITA is a national body responsible for standardizing Swahili IN Tanzania not globally. Kenya has a similar body as does UG. BAKITA coordinates its activities with similar bodies in Kenya and Uganda. That's why the phrase we were disagreeing on is slightly different in Kenya and Tanzania. The only difference is that what BAKITA approves becomes gospel in Tz even on the streets while in Kenya or Uganda people will use the Swahili they want not the one they're told.

Danielnino00:


That jamilforum is mostly Swahili.

Let me check out Kenya talk

Austine1212:


An average south african

Austine1212:


An average south african

Saddamochieng00:


Oh! I see , we are used to mixing our SWA with local dialect and some English words here an there, so constructing a sanifu Swahili sentence ain't that easy for most of us especially us fellas from the lakeside.

rvp2018:
Nope, it was to curb kenyan professionals from taking your jobs. Your kids after 12yrs of education cannot construct an English sentence. Stick with one track.

To quote this

Some analysts attributed this high failure rate to the sudden switch to English as the medium of instruction in secondary school. The expectation that children leaving public primary schools should enter secondary school and take lessons for all subjects in English language is both callous and ludicrous. English fluency is equally poor among secondary school teachers and officials of the National Examinations Council of Tanzania (Necta).

gallivant:


I never said it wasn't dumbass. You should thank me for not mentioning that communist hellhole. Stupid tool.

Austine1212:


Now i should teach you primary curriculum?

rvp2018:
Wanabidi doesn't sound right to me. Inabidi would still apply for plural.

Austine1212:


Lol take Bophuthatswana, a former batswana bantustan


World class university, best in the world
World class colleges
World class hospitals
Clinics police stations
International airport
Build industrial sites
Insurance companies
Best transport system of the time
Malls in the 80s
Black people were still working
Critical skills we always had them

All those without white man help


Lol what would white men be without black, no gold, diamond, rail, no mining, no joburg, no roads, we build SA


In fact we just a right combination, blacks, white and Asians... We a mean team look how beautiful SA is, look at the strong institutions we have, tourism, infrastructure an average south african is 3times wealthier than a Tanzanian

gallivant:


I never mentioned Tanzania. That is what you have to be gracious for, ingrate.

Saddamochieng00:


What's wrong with the statement Swahili guru?

gallivant:


Where did I mention Tanzania you ingrate?

rvp2018:
Open the borders and lift labour sanctions if you're rich and ready to compete in international labour market. Your education is an epic failure. You either stick to Kiswahili all the way or English all the way.

Danielnino00:


You don't know what you are saying...

For starters, Tanzania is classified among the "Least developed countries", Ghana isn't..
Tanzania is a "low income economy" ..
Tanzania has one of the lowest GDP per capita in the world...

gallivant:


So was a mountain. The bully is cursed. Colonized by Hitler, then by the Communists! It's always been a downward spiral with these neighbours of ours.

Saddamochieng00:
Where is that Pan African idiot? Have you grown cold all of a sudden.

I hear that you are learning Kiswahili. Can you look this up

Nigeria ni nchi ya watu washenzi sana. Wanafaa kufungua macho na kujua kwamba hawako ligi yetu.

rvp2018:
You cannot suddenly switch the language instruction in upper schools and expect kids to get anything. They will be disoriented like most of Tanzanians.

If you can make your own stuff like Chinese or Germans - go ahead and speak anything you want. But if you're a poor country like Tanzania depending on the international market you better be good in English.