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Dominionng:
It's obvious this drywall is fake!

Standard size of plasterboard meant for drywall should be at least 12mm.

Since getting a straight treated wood in Nigeria is synonymous to finding a virgin prostitute, whoever uses wood for drywall framework should be shot at dawn!

If you call it fake bro, no prob. What I see here is a low standard drywall. Very unfit for the project it was used.

It's just like saying fake tiles. It's still a tile. The production is the same but one is high quality while the other is low quality. The same thing applies to plywoods, there's marine board, HDF, MDF and a lot more based on grades and rating and their application differs.
The same thing applies to cement. We have different grades for different applications but what most people do is to just buy what's available.

FastShipping:
That is the difference in mentality between the western world and Africa in general. The same Mexicans who built Michael Jordan's mansions were the same one who built three bedroom house of a common man down the streets in the U.S.

Why should certain architects/builders build for some and unable to entertain certain clientele?

Have you approached them? And they said "No" The Winner of the Design Company of the year 2014 award designed one of my ongoing project which belongs to a common man (a Nairalander like you) and been built by a small builder.

Just yesterday, I announced the price that screeding is done in the Most prestigious Atlantic City by artisans from all over the world (whether Chinese, Indian, Mexican or African). You can get people there. They're human.

However what I do know is that there are upscale developers in the US and their target market is high net worth individuals.

You didn't care to ask How do I know Cadwell? Read them up on the Internet? Or heard about them through word of mouth? No, I was actually a partaker in one of their project in 2007. That's like a decade ago when I was a nobody in the field.

The only difference is where you're picking your artisan. You won't find them here. You'll see them on houzz.com, skyscrapercity, etc. They don't advertise here and there, those who use their service referred them to each other.

I think it's all about mindset.

Screenshot: Profile page of the designer of K-024 been built by NextHome on Houzz.com

FastShipping:
American and European made plasterboards are unmatched.

God dey sha. I'm planning to use cement board (backerboards) on some bathroom and exterior areas on my project.

Truth be told, no matter how perfect a rendering can be. It can never be as perfect as using specialized boards for cladding and flooring.

@ FastShipping, these finishers are also here with us. We just need to identify them. Cadwell is currently the best in Naija, they won the 2014 Real Estate Unite’s ‘Developer of the Year’ award.

Checkout what they're currently doing with "Cuddle" on Bourdillon road, Ikoyi designed by Pieach Limited (another Naija's best architecture firm) for the high net worth individuals. Not yet open to the public. It's world class.

FastShipping:
Take closer look at the shape of the drywalls again. Original drywalls don't fold or bend easily. These drywalls are already cowering in shape.

From experience, these drywalls you displayed here are substandard.

I have drywall work coming up on my project sometime next month and I don't want something like these ones.

I agree with you. This is a low quality material. There's drywall, plasterboard and sheetrock. However, if the installation is not perfect, whatever is installed will look like a mess.

The same material is what we used in NextHome H52 and it's not looking as bad. Take a look and you tell us.

FastShipping:
Horrible work I'm seeing here. Whoever did this should lose license to continue working. The drywall itself is fake.

Abysmal.

cc: Dominionng

We love new things in Naija but most artisans or contractors don't even try to upgrade their knowledge.

You were so right and one of the reason why I took the picture is to compare apple with apples when the time comes.

The drywall is not fake but unfit and unsafe for the attic. It's not fire rated. You need at least a 5/8" drywall for attic installations to meet fire rating.

@ FastShipping, how about if I'd shown you this.

I'm a bit skeptical the way I pass comment on other people's job (whether good or bad). Who knows the owner might be visiting this thread one day.

FastShipping:
Nothing special or creative from this drywall work. In fact, this is one of the worst drywall work I have ever seen in my life. It seems you haven't seen Mexicans hang drywall before. I have seen it all.

Am I supposed to say it like you just did. It's not my work and I can just pass a complement on it. It's a nice concept but bad finish.

I even tried showing the best part. My word "I took the pic for a very personal reason"

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This is different. Jumbo wood sizes minus the weight.

gabbytabby:
This na lagos prices self.

Interesting! Some contractor must be so lucky then.

I wish I had such Dasuki free fall. Any client who has paid more than 1.47m for Plastering material, labour and supervision on any of NextHome's project should ask for a refund. Including all the oversized projects twice the size of a standard 4 flats.

Anyway, we really we don't need the Dasuki windfall because it is God that meet our needs.

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18' long hard wood for roofing, wooden decks and outdoor application.

Contact 08023429122 or email (bosun@nexthomebuilders.com)

Suppliers Needed

18' long hard wood for roofing, wooden decks and outdoor application.

Contact 08023429122 or email (bosun@nexthomebuilders.com)

@ duduboy, Iya Ijebu don talk.

20k max per room and that's been generous. If mama vex carry artisan from Oyo town come do work, na total crash you go see.

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abdulwastecx:
If each of the four bedroom flat are detached, N400,000 each per flat is reasonable

You sabi tease person. Tell me you didn't see "a block of" in the OP question. You be Chaka Demus?

abdulwastecx:
Yea oga n3xt

Working with a rough quote can lead to a rough play - Brabus

Meanwhile, i'm still looking for my Johnny... singing Yemi Alade

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dudubody:
what is the reasonable amount to pay pls

In all honesty, that I cannot say but I do know 1.6m is too much for plastering a 4 flat (labour only) in Ibadan.

Get an option quote as suggested by Twinskenny and give your own budget to the builder. Me think 200 - 250 per flat is still a very fair deal in Ibadan. A mouthwatering one sef.

I'm not sure you know that your material cost for rendering the house (whatever size it may be) is just about half of the labour cost.

Dieumerci:
Pls I need an idea of how many bundles of PVC ceiling that could cover a 12*12 feet bedroom.

The PVC comes in sizes of 10cm*6m and 20cm*6m.

Thanks

cc: mufutau55

Using 10cm ceiling strip, you'll need 22 lengths including joints. 36 length without joints but there'll be offcuts to use in other areas.

Using 20cm ceilings strip, you'll need 11 length including joints. 18 lengths without joints but there'll be offcuts to use in other areas.

abdulwastecx:
You can't really get a good rough estimate for a project of this magnitude

Rough is never good, Bro.

dudubody:
Guys I need your input on this.... 1.6m for plastering a block of 4 three bedroom flats in ibadan. Labor only

Breakdown as follows:

Each flat - 400k
Each room (assuming 3 bed, 1 kitchen, 1 lounge) - 80k
Labour charge per day (Assuming 4 men rendered a room inside out) - 20k per day work.


Can I apply for a job under you bro?

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Hear it first from me, screeding job done at Atlantic City project is just N350 per sqm and it is top class installation. I think Atlantic City project is about the biggest ongoing project in Nigeria as of today.

Like a work of art

Breaking all the norms: It's a 3-in-1 by NextHome

@ segzy14, Give figures for carcass and plastering using the datas you provided.

segzy14:
Sharpsand is 15k, 30tons granite is 130k, good sandcrete blocks,9inches is 190naira per one and 6inches is 140naira per one.

Teebawse:
thanks bro but i need an estimate sir any advice

Sure there is.

Twinskenny - Give us ballpark figure for the Electricals (rough-ins and wiring to service panels)
Rotecch77 - Give us tiles and plumbings guesstimate
Abdulwastecx, Segzy14, KolaShangOne - Let's have figure for the carcass and plastering
Adeekiti - what should the client budget for the Windows.
Dominionng - Baba, you know what to do. Just give a budget.
Tinotino, sova - food don ready. We need a budget for this kitchen.

Teebawse - please kindly provide the key datas. Cost of sand, granite or Chippings, iron rods blocks in your location. And more importantly accessibility. It may help the guys provide you a near perfect guesstimate.

My benchmark for this build is between N8.5m - N9m.