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Adverts › Re: Lets Make Your Party, Product Or Political Campaign Memorable. Contact K's Event by naptu2(op): 7:33am On Sep 08, 2012
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Celebrities › Re: Chris Brown Hugs And Kisses Rihanna At The MTV MVAs. ~picture~ by naptu2: 8:25pm On Sep 07, 2012
Chris Brown and Rihanna should actually be on the front page and people who are trying to prevent that are infringing on the rights of others. If you don't like it, skip it. There might be others who like it. Why are you trying to impose your view on others? There are enough topics, threads and sections in this forum.

Why don't you go tell Linda Ikeji that she can't have this kinds of stories on her front page? I may not like these kinds of stories, but it'll be wrong for me to try to prevent those who do from enjoying it.
Celebrities › Re: Chris Brown Hugs And Kisses Rihanna At The MTV MVAs. ~picture~ by naptu2: 6:20pm On Sep 07, 2012
Love is a funny thing. People can have "righteous" opinions about who a person should date, etc, but only the couple understand the chemistry between them. They are the only ones who know what they are feeling.
Adverts › Re: Lets Make Your Party, Product Or Political Campaign Memorable. Contact K's Event by naptu2(op): 6:17pm On Sep 07, 2012
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Politics › Re: Terrorism: Telecom Firms Threaten To Cut Off North (Pics) by naptu2: 6:15pm On Sep 07, 2012
publisher: The core North as a region opted to commit suicide ever since it lost out on the Nigerian power equation handed over to them by Britain.
Boko Haram was created as a bargaining tool for the core-North to ride its way back into political reckoning. Unfortunately,other regions did not give in to this blackmail, and BH now abandoned by its initial sponsors has run mad.
Yes, the core of Boko Haram initially thought that their sponsors were truly interested in the propagation of ISLAM. Now BH has realized that all their sponsors were only interested in 2015 presidency.
How do Northern leaders(sponsors) now want to dialogue with BH and get them to surrender after BH has sacrificed many of its members as suicide bombers? What will BH leaders say to the families of these suicide bombers who thought they died for 'Allah'?
This is the true situation inside the Boko Haram camp. As such,several factions now exist and FG is trying to dialogue with a potent faction.
Regardless of this ends, the core Northern region is the biggest loser.
Boko Haram was created in 2002 and started attacks in 2003.
Celebrities › Re: Chris Brown Hugs And Kisses Rihanna At The MTV MVAs. ~picture~ by naptu2: 4:54pm On Sep 07, 2012
I'm soooo happy to see them back together!

About the g people, I think it'll be dangerous and wrong to grant them amnesty. It will simply lead to disorder.

The FG granted Niger Delta militants amnesty. Then kidnappers demanded for amnesty and then Boko Haram, etc.

In this case, if you grant the g people amnesty, then there'll be no justification for banning Musiwa's maps or the off topic hate comments in the religion section.

Society needs rules and order in order to function properly. Wilful disobedience attracts sanctions. People don't like following rules and being punished, but rules and order are a fact of life.

People hate lastma and the police for punishing them when they park in a no parking zone, but if everybody parked where ever they wanted, how would traffic move?
Islam › Re: Directory Of Good Islamic Schools In Nigeria by naptu2: 4:12pm On Sep 07, 2012
Autos › Re: For Sale: 2008 Mercedes Benz R Class. by naptu2(op): 1:31pm On Sep 07, 2012
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Autos › Re: For Sale: 1994 Daewoo Racer by naptu2(op): 1:29pm On Sep 07, 2012
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Politics › Re: Terrorism: Telecom Firms Threaten To Cut Off North (Pics) by naptu2:
Their goal is to control through fear.

1) Telecoms service providers are assisting the security services to crack down on "Boko Haram" by helping them trace and monitor calls. Solution - scare telecoms service providers so that they'll fear "Boko Haram" more than they fear the government and stop helping government.

2) Media organisations have been reporting government's successes in the war against "Boko Haram", citizens' rejection of "Boko Haram's" ideology and splits within the terrorist organisation. Solution - kill journalists, bomb media houses, etc so that they'll fear you. Proclaim that your name is not "Boko Haram" (actually boko haram is the nickname given to them by local people in Yobe and Bornu. Their name is actually People Committed to the Propagation of the Prophet's Teachings and Jihad) and threaten to kill any journalist that calls you "Boko Haram".

3) Citizens of Kano have been aiding the SSS by identifying and reporting "Boko Haram" members. Solution - launch daring raids on Kano. Kill a lot of people in Kano. Distribute leaflets stating that you will kill any Kano resident that identifies/reports "Boko Haram" members.

4) The SSS has been the most successful security agency in the fight against "Boko Haram". Solution - publish the SSS pension and personnel roll to show them that you know who they are, where they are and can hit them anytime you want. This should strike terror in their hearts.

We need to unite to confront and defeat this "Boko Haram" monster.
TV/Movies › Re: Some Funny, And Really Nice Nigerian 80's Shows by naptu2: 4:46am On Sep 07, 2012
infogenius: Can anyone remember "Sura the tailor"?
I love my country
I no go lie
Na for inside am I go live and die
If e push me so
I push am so
E push me I push am
I no go go


Sura, Sura
Sura the tailor is your man!
Politics › Re: Obama Ordering Take-out, Eating In Resturant by naptu2: 9:30pm On Sep 06, 2012
Goodluck Jonathan (& ministers) motorcade.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wFKtQGHL1Mw
Politics › Re: Obama Ordering Take-out, Eating In Resturant by naptu2:
One strategy that could be employed to reduce the effect of VIP movement on city traffic (particularly rush hour traffic) is to travel by helicopter.


The Nigerian president usually travels in a convoy of two helicopters. President Shagari often used the helicopters when going from Dodan Barracks to MMIA (the approach-way to Dodan Barracks ran right over my house). I will never forget General Buhari's helicopters. They are the noisiest helicopters I've ever heard. I only saw General Babangida use the helicopter once (it was rumoured that he was afraid that his helicopter would be shot down). Circa 1987 the Nigerian Navy staged exercises (war games) off the coast of Lagos. General Babangida went from Dodan Barracks to the flagship NNS Aradu by helicopter.

I do not think Generals Abacha and Abdulasalam used the helicopter. The return to civilian rule ushered in the second coming of the helicopter. President Obasanjo often went from MMIA to Dodan Barracks or Ota by helicopter. This time, they changed the flight path. He flies in through North West Ikoyi, rather than the old South West Ikoyi route that Shagari and Buhari used. He was however criticised for using the helicopter. People said he preferred to travel by helicopter while ordinary citizens suffered on the traffic clogged pot hole ridden roads.

I felt great pity for Nigerian policemen during the PDP Lagos "Tsunami Rally" of 2005. Policemen had been deployed to line the route from MMA to Dodan Barracks. They were standing in the sun. However, I saw Obasanjo arrive Dodan Barracks by helicopter. They stood in the sun for nothing.

President Jonathan also uses the helicopter. It was rumoured that President Jonathan and Bola Tinubu met on a particular night just before the 2011 elections and signed a pact. I was right in front of Dodan Barracks gate around 5pm that evening and saw the President's helicopter land. A few minutes later I was at Falomo when Governor Fashola's motorcade passed by (no sirens or outriders).


The US president usually travels in a convoy of 5 helicopters. The helicopters often change places during a trip, such that a potential attacker would not know which helicopter the president is in. Here's a video of President Obama going by helicopter (Marine One) to a meeting at the UN. His plane landed at JFK, then he went from JFK to Wall Street in Marine One. There were four helicopters in this mission; two troop carriers and two white tops.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=orOgtankPLM
Politics › Re: Obama Ordering Take-out, Eating In Resturant by naptu2: 6:30pm On Sep 06, 2012
[size=14pt]NY Times rehashed Pres. Clinton haircut myth[/size]

February 9, 2007 5:45 PM EST ››› SIMON MALOY

In a February 9 article, The New York Times reported on the uproar over House Speaker Nancy Pelosi's (D-CA) access to a military aircraft to fly nonstop between Washington, D.C., and her home district in California, noting the Republican effort to portray Pelosi "as a luxury-loving San Franciscan." The Times asserted that "the dispute illustrates that politicians are acutely aware that a jet-setting image can be dangerous," adding that "President Bill Clinton spent a long time living down the tale of his haircut on Air Force One as flights were delayed at Los Angeles International Airport, even though there is dispute over whether other planes were affected." In fact, there exists no "dispute over whether other planes were affected" -- the claim that Clinton's haircut delayed air traffic at LAX or elsewhere is flatly disproved by Federal Aviation Administration records, as reported more than 13* years ago.

As Media Matters for America has noted, the media have uncritically repeated baseless and disputed allegations from congressional Republicans regarding Pelosi and her access to military aircraft and have ignored their own role in perpetuating the GOP-fueled "controversy."

According to the February 9 Times article by congressional reporter Carl Hulse:

The attention to the dispute illustrates that politicians are acutely aware that a jet-setting image can be dangerous, particularly given the travails of modern travel for average Americans.

President Bill Clinton spent a long time living down the tale of his haircut on Air Force One as flights were delayed at Los Angeles International Airport, even though there is dispute over whether other planes were affected.

This claim, however, is completely false. According to a June 30, 1993, Newsday article headlined, "Bill's Coif: The Myth; Runway trim delayed no one":

The story was that planes were kept circling as President Bill Clinton had his hair clipped on Air Force One at Los Angeles airport last month.

The runway haircut by Beverly Hills stylist Cristophe became such a metaphor for perceived White House arrogance that the president himself felt compelled to apologize for the reported flight delays.

But the reports were wrong.

According to Federal Aviation Administration records obtained through the Freedom of Information Act, the May 18 haircut caused no significant delays of regularly scheduled passenger flights - no circling planes, no traffic jams on the runways.

Commuter airlines that fly routes reportedly affected by the president's haircut confirmed they have no record of delays that day.

The FAA records, generated by the regional Air Route Traffic Control Center, show that an unscheduled air taxi flight had the only delay attributed to the closure of two runways for an hour in anticipation of Air Force One's departure. The air taxi took off 17 minutes after leaving the gate -- two minutes late, by FAA accounting.

"If you understand the air traffic system, you'd find that statement [that planes were circling] ludicrous," said Fred O'Donnell, an FAA spokesman at the agency's Western-Pacific regional office, which responded to New York Newsday's May 21 request under the freedom of information law.

O'Donnell said that although two runways were closed, traffic was light that afternoon and arriving flights were simply diverted to the two other runways. "It did not cause any problems," he said.

However, an air-traffic controller union official said the runway closings did increase the workload in the control centers. "If you close two runways, you take away 50 percent of the capacity and increase the complexity by 100 percent," said Karl Grundmann, regional vice president for the union.

O'Donnell said the FAA records an arrival delay if controllers take any action to slow traffic approaching the airport, such as having the pilot circle the airport. A departure delay is recorded whenever it takes an aircraft more than 15 minutes to take off after having pushed off from the gate.

During the uproar over the haircut, an unidentified FAA spokesperson was quoted in wire service reports as saying that a flight from Yuma, Ariz., to Los Angeles was delayed 25 minutes, a flight arriving from Palmdale, Calif., was delayed 17 minutes and several other flights were delayed about 10 minutes. No airlines were identified, but these details were widely repeated by news media, including New York Newsday.

In fact, even Republican attacks on Pelosi as reported by the media -- the Times wrote that Republicans accused her "of putting on royal airs" -- echo Republican attacks on Clinton in 1993. In a May 21, 1993, article on the haircut, the Boston Globe reported that Republicans accused Clinton of having an "apparent regal attitude."

From the February 9 Times story:

Republicans, accusing Ms. Pelosi of putting on royal airs, on Thursday stepped up their campaign to portray her as a luxury-loving San Franciscan because her cross-country travel could require a larger military jet than the one used since the Sept. 11, 2001, attacks to ferry Speaker J. Dennis Hastert home to Illinois.


"I hardly think these amenities help with security, and I personally would describe them as inappropriate and unnecessary extravagances," said Representative Eric Cantor of Virginia, chief deputy Republican whip.

From the May 21, 1993, Globe story, headlined, "Presidential style; Air traffic waits for Beverly hills haircut":

But Republican critics seized the moment, blasting the populist president's apparent regal attitude.

"He ought to be more concerned about trimming the deficit than trimming his hair," scolded Rep. Dan Burton, Republican of Indiana, in remarks on the House floor yesterday.

And Ed Rollins, a veteran GOP strategist, called it "the ultimate arrogance."

Correction: The original item said "more than 15 years ago." We regret the error.

http://mediamatters.org/mobile/research/2007/02/09/ny-times-rehashed-pres-clinton-haircut-myth/138002
Politics › Re: Obama Ordering Take-out, Eating In Resturant by naptu2: 6:17pm On Sep 06, 2012
[size=14pt]Haircut Grounded Clinton While the Price Took Off[/size]

By THOMAS L. FRIEDMAN
Published: May 21, 1993

Correction Appended

It may have been the most expensive haircut in history.


Two of Los Angeles International Airport's four runways were shut down for nearly an hour on Tuesday, some incoming flights were delayed and Air Force One sat on the tarmac with engines running -- all so that President Clinton's Beverly Hills hairstylist, Chistophe, could come aboard and give Mr. Clinton a high-price trim before he took off for Washington.

Questions about Mr. Clinton's runway razor cut dominated the White House news briefing today, with the communications director, George Stephanopoulos, scrambling to explain why the populist President tied up one of the country's busiest airports to have his hair trimmed. Everybody Does It

Federal Aviation Administration spokesmen were quoted by The Associated Press as saying that while Air Force One sat on the runway on an indefinite haircut hold, two of the airport's four runways were shut down and some commuter flights scheduled to land were forced to circle instead. The White House insisted, though, that the Secret Service had not sought any special hold on air traffic while the President was getting his locks shorn.


"Everybody has to get their hair cut," Mr. Stephanopoulos said. "I think the President normally gets his hair cut sometime during the week. It happens at different places. As you know, he has a very busy schedule, and he just tries to work it in when he can. That was when we were able to work it in."

And who paid for this haircut?

"The President and his family have a personal services contract with Cristophe to cover things like this," Mr. Stephanopoulos said. "They pay for it. It's for the whole family."

In light of Mr. Clinton's haircut by a stylist to Hollywood stars, Mr. Stephanopoulos was asked whether his boss was still the President of the common man.

"Absolutely," he answered. "And if you look at his economic package, it's a package that's designed to turn this around and to really get some real benefits to middle-class Americans. And that's what's important."

Correction: May 22, 1993, Saturday An article yesterday about President Clinton's haircut aboard Air Force One named his hairstylist incorrectly. The stylist is Cristophe of Beverly Hills, Calif.

http://www.nytimes.com/1993/05/21/us/haircut-grounded-clinton-while-the-price-took-off.html
Politics › Re: Obama Ordering Take-out, Eating In Resturant by naptu2: 5:54pm On Sep 06, 2012
[size=14pt] VIP movement. Mr Clinton and Mrs Jonathan.[/size]


Mr Clinton

President Clinton had a tight schedule, but he still needed to get his hair cut. He usually had his hair cut by celebrity barber Christophe (Mr Clinton is known to be good friends with a lot of celebrities like Greg Norman and Steven Spielberg).

On this particular day, he was on board Air Force One at LAX (Los Angeles International Airport) and took the opportunity to get his hair cut. The trouble was that Air Force One was on the tarmac, therefore the ATC shut down two runways at the airport.

(Here comes the rumour) The rumour was that planes were ordered to go into a holding pattern, flights were delayed, etc, because Mr Clinton wanted to get his hair cut (a $200 haircut).

The reality is that, although two runways were shut, LAX has four runways and the other two were open. Flights were diverted to the open runways. Although this made things difficult for the air traffic controllers, only one flight was delayed. . .by about 3 minutes (this can be verified by looking at the ATC logs).

Question: should a runway or two be closed down simply because the president wants to have his hair cut?



Mrs Jonathan.

Mrs Jonathan came to Lagos to attend a christening ceremony. The christening was held at Oriental Hotel, Lekki on a Sunday. On that day I was heading to Victoria Island from Lekki. Just before I got to the Admiralty Toll Plaza I got reports of a plane crash at Iju Ishaga. About a minute later I passed by Oriental Hotel and saw Mrs Jonathan's motorcade and also saw security measures in place around the hotel and the intersection before the hotel.

(The rumour). The rumour was that the airspace around MMA was closed because Mrs Jonathan's plane was about to land and therefore, the distressed plane was not allowed to land.

The reality is that Mrs Jonathan arrived Lagos on Saturday and spent the night at State House Marina. ATC logs show that there was no VIP movement on Sunday, but the airspace around the airport was closed on saturday for Mrs Jonathan's arrival. Aviation experts confirm that a distressed plane would have priority over the first lady's plane.

Question: should the airspace be closed, simply because the first lady's plane is about to land?
Politics › Re: Obama Ordering Take-out, Eating In Resturant by naptu2: 5:17pm On Sep 06, 2012
I'm still looking for

1) The video of Vice President Chenney flying into Ohio on Air Force 2, getting into the Executive 2 limo and being driven in a motorcade to the Daytona Speedway to watch a Nascar race (I think this was in 2006).

2) The story of Bill Clinton in Miami, waiting for Christophe to cut his hair, while the roads were closed during rush hour because the police were expecting his motorcade.
Politics › Re: Obama Ordering Take-out, Eating In Resturant by naptu2: 1:13pm On Sep 06, 2012
[size=14pt]Air Force One - GO AROUND !!![/size]

Time: During the Nixon Administration fuel Crisis of 1973

Place: Indianapolis International TCA (Terminal Control Area)

Players: President Nixon, the command pilot and co-pilot of AF-1, Eastern Airline pilot and co-pilot, Local controller Bob Farnum, Myself as observer


This story requires a lot of background.  From the title: "go around" is a command that is given by a controller to be executed immediately by a pilot. When the command is given by a controller during a landing sequence the pilot is to immediately terminate the approach.  The command is used when an approach becomes impossible for any number of reasons.  That might be another aircraft on the runway unexpectedly, a vehicle on the runway, a departing aircraft delayed on the runway for some reason, etc.  The pilot executing the "go around" will then be instructed to enter a pattern for another approach to the active runway. A "go around" is a very bad thing.  It indicates poor planning or violated procedures.  It is an indication that something has gone very, very wrong and, as a result, some airliner will be late and burn a huge amount of jet fuel getting on the ground in an unplanned way.

When Air Force One enters the TCA on his way to any airport special procedures are followed.  At a set range from the airport ALL traffic (on the ground) stops. Aircraft on approach are placed in a holding pattern in flight.  All aircraft and vehicles are instructed to hold in position wherever they are on the ground.  All movement on the airport stops for security and safety.  Air Force One is then given full use of the active runway (cleared of all aircraft and vehicles) and use of the entire airport surface to land and taxi to the secure ramp area arranged for their arrival.  When Air Force One is stopped in their secure area normal activity on the airport and in the TCA resumes.   Simple.....right ?

I was on duty in the RADAR Equipment room and someone advised us Air Force One was on approach.  While he (Nixon) is in the area, we touch no equipment and disturb nothing.  I had been working for the FAA for about three years at that time, and I thought since we go into a hands-off-everything mode I would go up to the Air Traffic Control Tower and watch the approach of Air Force One with President Nixon on board.  Up the elevator I went to the Tower Cab level.  When I got there and looked out the window it was a chaotic scene.  What had happened is AF-1 got into the TCA during a very busy part of the day.  Aircraft were everywhere on the airport, parked as required, engines running on idle.  Nothing was allowed to move, all were required by AF-1 SOP to remain in place. All the engines were burning huge quantities of jet fuel, with nothing moving anywhere on the airport.

One of the little known causes of some aircraft accidents is what I call "letting the passenger fly the airplane".  Trust me, it happens.  Not literally of course.  The passengers are in the back and do not have direct access to the controls.  What actually happens is some passenger in the back gets some great little idea and asks the pilot to deviate from routine flight procedures.  An example might be: "Hey, can you turn out over there to the left so I can show the guys my house when we get off the runway?".  The pilot looks out, figures there is no traffic in the pattern and takes off.  He turns to make the passenger happy and plows into another aircraft entering the pattern he didn't see on the take off roll.  Another possibility would be: "We really need to make that meeting - do we really need to top off the fuel?".  The pilot looks at the fuel, got enough, takes off.  They get to the airport and it is fogged in and approaches are difficult.  The pilot does a go around or two, using takeoff power (and fuel).  On the LAST attempt the fuel runs out, you can guess the rest.  For another example see:

http://www.ab9d.com/greatmoments/stuck.htm

This above was a case of the pilot letting the cargo (not even a live passenger) tell him he had enough gas to make it.

If you have a lot of experience reading NTSB reports you can sometimes see this contributing factor peeking out.  Letting the passengers (or even the cargo) fly the airplane.

Back to the story.  Nixon wasn't a bad president.  He got in some trouble, but he was a good administrator while in office, and sensitive to the needs of the American people.  He was in the back of AF-1 and found out this was going on (many aircraft wasting fuel). Well there he was, jetting around in AF-1 and causing huge amounts of jet fuel to be wasted following the SOP for AF-1 arrival.  He ordered the pilot to advise the local controller (a guy named Robert Farnum) to ignore the SOP and resume normal operations. In other words, bring AF-1 into the airport as they would any other large aircraft. This is an example of letting a passenger fly the airplane.

In a situation like this it takes some time for an order to propagate through the chain of command and be delivered to the appropriate controllers.  Nixon didn't fully appreciate the chaotic situation his command would create.  During that time lag AF-1 was charging into the airport at 140 MPH. When the command to conduct normal movements actually activated AF-1 was about 100 yards from the threshold of the active runway still doing about 140 MPH.  In that instant everything that was parked was released to move.  Holding in position, waiting to cross the active runway, was an Eastern Airlines flight.  Controller Farnum pointed at the ground controller and yelled "CROSS EASTERN!".  My first thought was what the hell is that idiot doing?   AF-1 is about two seconds from touching down and aimed right at the Eastern flight.  As I leaned to look out the window, I saw debris blow out behind the Eastern flight.  The pilot had firewalled the throttle levers to try to cross in time as ordered by controller Farnum.  I could imagine the pilot in AF-1 grabbing the throttle levers and silently reciting the Lord’s Prayer, hoping the Eastern flight would clear the runway in time.  If he didn’t, we were all going see the very first (and only) "go around" of AF-1 in aviation history. 

It was close.  The Eastern jet blast threw debris all over the place, and AF-1 went by the back of the Eastern flight just clearing the wing tip of the president’s airplane.  Controller Farnum, who was usually wrapped up in his self-perceived importance, never saw the situation.  He was busy creating more chaos across the airport telling others to move.  To this day,  he never knew it happened (unless he reads this).  As far as I know, only five of us were aware of the incident.  I saw it.  There was an Eastern Airlines captain firewalling the throttle on his passenger airliner and his co-pilot probably looking out at the huge looming AF-1 going “OH S**T!”  There was a captain in AF-1 grabbing a handful of throttle controls thinking “WHOOOA NELLIE!  This is going to be close!” and his co-pilot probably thinking that the president will be really pissed about this.  He was probably wondering what driving a snow plow in Dead Horse, Alaska, was going to be like as he pondered the end of his flying career in the Air Force.   When it was all over, it was as if nothing happened and is being told here for the first time.

The moral to the story is obvious:  never let a passenger fly the airplane, even if he’s the President of the United States!

http://ab9d.com/af1goaround.htm
Politics › Re: Obama Ordering Take-out, Eating In Resturant by naptu2: 1:10pm On Sep 06, 2012
Oops! I forgot to add possible solutions.

1) In the US the President usually lands at an air force base. This ensures that there is as little disruption to civilian traffic as possible. For example, when flying to Washington DC, his plane lands at Andrews Air Force Base, then he proceeds to the White House by helicopter.

In Nigeria, most of the cities have dual use airports (civilian and military), so whereas the president could land at Port-Harcourt Air Force Base instead of the civilian airport at Omagwa; in Lagos MMA serves as both civilian airport and air force base.

2)They could prevent flights from taking off: If I was going to fly from Lagos to Abuja and the president was expected to take off from Abuja at around the same time, the airport authorities in Lagos should prevent my flight from taking off.

I'll be back with more. I'm tired
Politics › Re: Obama Ordering Take-out, Eating In Resturant by naptu2: 1:01pm On Sep 06, 2012
[size=14pt]Air Force One Causes Landing Delays following Obama Speech at a Solar Factory[/size]

Does anyone have any insight on why UA 940 from ORD to FRA was delayed yesterday evening (not a huge delay; only 2.5 hours)? My daughter on the flight said boarding was delayed a bit, but after boading the FAs gave several different explanations for the delays including servicing the plane, a cargo issue, delays in reaching cargo, etc.
President Obama was also arriving. When the President lands, are all the flights "grounded" with other explanations given?
Thanks
Yes, then Air Force 1 is landing or taking off, there will will be some delays but not that long. Maybe at the most 1/2 hour unless there was alot of traffic at the time.

Don't know bout 940 specifically, but AF1 flew in to ORD 2 days ago, messing up ATC for a few hours, then left yesterday morning, messing up ATC again for a period, then came back again after the hour photo op in the gulf, only to mess up ATC again.

In the immortal words of Mel Brooks, "It's good to be the king!" I wonder what in Chicago was worth coming to for the 1st night, instead of skipping that leg, and going from WAS to the gulf, then just once into ORD.
Thursday night going from MSP to ORD we were about to board and were stopped when ORD was hit with a 45 minute security stop due to the President (according to the GA). This had a ripple effect - ATC had flow control (according to pilot due to security stop) so we were delayed even further.
This is ORD. With 2 planes landing every minute, and a holiday weekend, there is alot of traffic. During most week days, ORD is scheduled at very close to the maximum the airport can take. A 30min (or longer as the case really is) stop, causes huge ripples that continue on for the entire day and into the night.
I remember a number of years ago when I was at CDG for a flight home to the US. I had planned to arrive early to get some lounge time, and upon arrival found the airport in chaos. I learned that the airport had already been closed for over two hours, as Boris Yeltsen was scheduled to leave for Moscow after meeting with the French president. Yeltsen was on board his plane, but departure was being delayed for some reason. Flight operations were at a standstill until his plane finally took off. My flight ended up leaving about two hours late, as the airport gradually caught up with the backlog.
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/travelbuzz/1089574-air-force-one-causes-landing-delays-following-obama-speech-solar-factory-3.html
Politics › Re: Obama Ordering Take-out, Eating In Resturant by naptu2: 12:54pm On Sep 06, 2012
I have a lot to say and a lot of links to post, but no time and the fear of Mr Spambot is making me cautious.

I'm going to look at problems and possible solutions.

Where do I start? In the air.

Around the world the airspace around a head of state's aircraft is usually closed to traffic. This could include the runway and the airspace around the airport. Planes around the airport are usually put on a holding pattern (basically, the circle the airport).

This leads to several problems.

1) Aircraft burning valuable fuel and the fear that an aircraft might run out of fuel.

2) Fear of an aicraft straying into restricted airspace and getting shot down (I shall post, as an example, a recent occurrence in the US).

3) Fear of accidents occurring.

4) Opponents of the head of state using the practice to score cheap political points (eg the clinton haircut on the runway and the Patience Jonathan/Dana incident).

Read my first example below.
Nairaland General › Re: What Do You Think Of Nairaland's Garri Peeps? by naptu2: 6:25am On Sep 06, 2012
It appears that the unavailability of fuel has affected the price of garri in Lagos. Transporters say they have no fuel to transport garri from the villages and farms to Lagos.

Fuel queues started appearing in Lagos yesterday after oil workers downed tools in a protest strike over the price of garri. Spokesman of the oil workers union said that members of the union do not have the strength to continue carrying out their duties because they have been under nourished due to lack of sufficient garri in their stomachs; a situation caused by the exorbitant price of garri.

Stay tuned for more details as we follow this breaking story.
Autos › Re: For Sale: 2008 Mercedes Benz R Class. by naptu2(op): 4:33am On Sep 06, 2012
goldfire: price?
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Nairaland General › Re: What Do You Think Of Nairaland's Garri Peeps? by naptu2: 5:52pm On Sep 05, 2012
22 pages! More advert space. Garri activists contained on one thread to vent their grievances and use up energy/time. This reminds me of the front page complaint thread.

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Autos › Re: For Sale: 1994 Daewoo Racer by naptu2(op): 4:21pm On Sep 05, 2012
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Autos › Re: For Sale: 2008 Mercedes Benz R Class. by naptu2(op): 4:19pm On Sep 05, 2012
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Politics › Re: Obama Ordering Take-out, Eating In Resturant by naptu2: 3:31pm On Sep 05, 2012
Inside Secretary of State, Hillary Clinton's security bubble.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XQj44QzV1lI
Adverts › Re: Lets Make Your Party, Product Or Political Campaign Memorable. Contact K's Event by naptu2(op): 12:47pm On Sep 05, 2012
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European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Usain Bolt To Play For Manchester United Against Real Madrid by naptu2: 11:08am On Sep 05, 2012
Reminds me of Chioma Ajunwa who played for the falcons at the world cup Sweden '91, ran 100 metres for Nigeria at the Olympics in '92 and won gold medal in the long jump at the olympics Atlanta '96.
Politics › Re: Obama Ordering Take-out, Eating In Resturant by naptu2: 9:07am On Sep 05, 2012
(I'm a bit busy at the moment, but let me give a quick response).

I also get your point. I don't think you are complaining about the security measures per-se, I believe what you want to complain about is the abuse of the system. I'm also against that myself (God knows that I suffered from that abuse, having once lived close to the C in C).

Certain government officials need protection due to the nature of their jobs. This is not peculiar to Nigeria. Again, the security detail sometimes gets over zealous. This too is not peculiar to Nigeria. Rather than making all these comparisons, I think it would be better if we think of ways to solve the problem (like what the Lagos State Government is doing at the moment).

I was actually focusing on the beast when I wrote that article, but I'll give more info when I get back. When I get back I'll post a video of The Secretary of State's security detail, the incident when one of Hilary's outriders died, other motorcades in the US, the incident when Bill Clinton's motorcade held up rush hour traffic in Miami because he was late getting a hair cut (to be fair, he later apologised and offered to pay for the extra costs. I hope I can find it now, cos I couldn't find the article again when I was arguing with someone last year) and many instances when flights are prevented from landing because of Air Force One.

I'll also give details of the Osoba issue, the Fashola issue, pics of Murtala's car, how a deputy governor's motorcade killed a student and tell you how I suffered because I lived close to Dodan Barracks.

Finally, I'll proffer solutions to the problem.
Nairaland General › Re: What Do You Think Of Nairaland's Garri Peeps? by naptu2: 7:24am On Sep 05, 2012
binhozie: Just type "how does this affect the price of garri" in google and watch how the first 3 pages are from nairaland alone
Not only that, check out the distribution of garri topics! There's a garri topic in the business section, a couple in the general section and it's almost overwhelming the food section.

I have some suggestions:

1) Sports section: Who is the fastest garri drinker on nairaland?

2) Politics section: How does the price of garri affect the stability of government?

3) Family section: Nutritional value of garri to growing children.

4) Sexuality section: Garri as an aphrodisiac.

More to come soon.

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