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seankafor:
hmm, even when you can just have access to streaming apps and sites like mobdro
Streamlive7. Com and host others

Or is streaming illegal there too

Yes you can. But we were not talking about back-channel streaming. We were talking about live TV.

Ibime:
BBC?

Not sure. Heard it on TalkSports.
I think Amazon might be the outsiders showing more games.

seankafor:
haven't all games been live on TV

In the UK we don't get all games live on TV. Especially Saturday 3pm games.

All PL games this month will be live on TV. All games!

Ibime:
If Kante injure, I hope he is not looking to anchor the midfield with Jorginho sha. I had Ampadu down as Kantes deputy for this season, unless he's planning to sign Rice.

It appears the club is listening to offers for Kante and Jorginho. It may explain the interest in Rice. I think someone is thinking like I am thinking that this might be the last chance to sell Kante for serious bucks. I don't want to sell Kante but I understand the financial logic behind selling Kante and Jorginho and replacing with Rice and Gilmour.

biomustry:
Which kain kits dem dey design these days
Barca own too

This is shocking! Does Marina know how to design Jerseys?
It looks like we are going to need her involvement in this department as well.

nihilistjnr:
You know Barkley was injured for an entire season before he started at Chelsea.

Infact he signed for Chelsea from the sick bay.

He came back from fitness to play under one of the most useless coaches Chelsea has had the misfortune of hiring in recent years.

He has really played one good season under a decent manager, and even in this season he was out for like 2 months with injury....and then Corona happened.

Even in such dire conditions, RLC cannot out-stat him....let alone when he was at Everton playing under defensive coaches like Moyes or complete nut-jobs like Martinez.

Let me be very clear, Barkley has suffered serious setbacks to his career over the last 2 seasons, but at his peak he's still a better player than Cheek abeg.

RLC stats in the decent season that you mentioned are the same as Barkley's in his worst

Numbers don't lie

I think you have just not liked RLC as a player. RLC's full debut as a Chelsea player with 11 goals from midfield was at 22. He was at Palace as 21. Everything he's been judged on so far, is his playing career until 22. Who gets judged like that?

That's not even close to his best. So this comparison to "Barkley's best" is a needless point really.

In fact, I could extrapolate based on his output and tell you that if he did not get injured, and the consistency continued under Lampard; with the chances we create now, RLC would have been hitting 15/16 goals steady per season, a feat that Barkley will have to sell his talent to achieve at his very best. Barkley has an awkward turn of pace, he can be clumsy, has very poor decision making the final third, and ultimately not very compatible with the Lampard style of football. Where Barkley excels is in counter-attacking football. We don't play that way.

These are the key indices where RLC is head and shoulders above him. RLC can play counter-attacking football, but on top of that is an intelligent footballer that is quick on his feet, crisp and sharp in his passing, deceptively quick, serious goal threat, has defensive presence in set-pieces, serious build and size, can play multiple positions, serious presser in midfield, and a very decent fit for Lampard's tactics.

Barkley can stay. It's okay. We would always need all the legs we can get. But when it comes to giving a talent a chance, it's got to be RLC getting that spot, if he's shown in training that he is up for it.

nihilistjnr:
Unplayable.

The bar is so low these days.

Barkley in his worst seasons is RLC level or better.

Apples and Oranges. If Barkley grew up as a Chelsea player, nobody will know zilch about him. Barkley's "acclaimed" success is largely due to the faith that Everton put in him as a young player, a chance that RLC never had Chelsea.

RLC scored 11 goals from midlfield at Chelsea in his first full season. It was even full because he got injured. And he's been recovering ever since. In that time Barkley has been playing alognside upgraded talent compared to his Everton days, and has had the chance to establish himself himself as the number one Chelsea midfielder but everyone's first 11 now includes Mount before Barkley. So much for all the talent.

Let RLC 2 seasons under his belt at Chelsea, then we can judge fairly.

VargasVee:


I don't know why anyone would ever choose a fully fit Barkley over an injured RLC.

Boy is a beast when he's fit. Bar this injury that kept him out before he returned, I doubt if anyone would be challenging his position in the first team.

We all saw him at Palace, and then 2 seasons ago. He was unplayable.


Same Barkley that has zero reading of the game, can barely keep up with the tempo of the game, and acts like he has a 25kg iron on his waist? Come on man. RLC any time of the day.

All the people who say that never watched him at Palace.

BlueAngel444:
I want to understand, how Rice went from being an option for out defense to getting him for our midfield . We have Kante, Kovacic and in a way Jorginho and RLC to play CM. And also Ampadu and Gilmour when he returns.

how can Chelsea be chasing Rice to play in midfield when we need a CB

Nawa o! I am asking the same.

It looks like we are slowly sleep-walking into an era of Oliver-Twist things, where everyone wants to bin everything old and want everything new and shiny. The last time was 03-09 before Chelsea fans started to accept that we could no longer sign top class.

Bin RLC, bin Kovacic, Bin Barkley. Buy Rice, Buy Thiago Alcantara. Damn!

This is not how you build teams. The club has done a fantastic job with the targets and final acquisitions. Ziyech, Werner, Chilwell, Thiago, Havertz in a single window is heavenly - stuff of dreams. I will be happy if we didn't sign anyone else. I will gladly play Caballero.

Truth be told, until now, the likes of Gilmour, RLC, Mount, Ampadu, CHO, James, Tomori have only been training alongside very averagely-talented squad members. Training alongside these new high-quality players will cause at least one of these young players to upgrade seriously.

I am not a big fan of Barkley's but that doesn't mean he should be binned. If he wants to move on because of playing time and Euros consideration, then it is what it is. But we all know when it comes to injuries, we need a decent second 11. So all this bin this guy, bin that guy. I don't get it.


The only players that should be heading for the exit are the clearly obvious one - Drinkwater, Bakayoko, Palmieiri, Rahman, Zappacosta, Moses, Van Ginkel (sadly), Kennedy and if possible Jorginho.

Skimpledawg:
Don't get me wrong man, I'm not holding forte for Barkley. Na very rubbish player.

But, I'd take him over RLC. That 2018/19 season, they had same goal contributions.

We all know Barkley has really declined. A fit RLC won't stand a fit Barkley at Everton.

Nawa o! Na RLC you dey take rub floor like this? You keep saying this over and over.
You have never witnessed an RLC peak, ever! So I am not sure why there is this direct comparison.

We've all seen what Barkley can do. Let RLC have one/two full seasons of full fitness, you will change your mind sir.

nihilistjnr:
I will play Ziyech at 10, Werner 7, Havertz 9

I didn't like Ziyech against Brighton. He wasn't making any better runs from that wing. He was asking for ball to feet and playing like a 10.

Let him kuku play in that middle, and let Werner use his direct running to open up angles for incisive passes.

I like what you are on to here. Actually I have noticed that all those 3 can play multiple positions effectively. In the event of injuries or major changes required, I can see a line-up resembling the following:

------ Kante ----
-----Kova ---Mount/RLC
Havertz--Giroud---Werner

Ibime:
So this guy dey smoke?

Even when he was the marathon man in EPL, I'm sure he was smoking. You don't just pick up smoking in your late 30s

Walahi I never thought he smoked. How did he have the lungs to put in 8km plus shift per game?

That was offside

Nobody should be paid that much to play football for the sake of life's delicate balance.
Haba! Millions will lose the will to live.

Havertz done!

Ibime:
The young shall grow. I'm currently in hospital. My son climbed dining table this morning and fell on his head. As we picked him him up, expecting his cry, instead he fell silent and went into seizure and stopped breathing like a boxer about to die in the ring. The fear wey catch me. We gave him CPR and called ambulance. Luckily he caught his wind and regained consciousness after 3 or 4 minutes. After 2 or 3 hours in hospital he was back to his normal self and CT scan cleared him of brain bleed. We will be discharged soon. This made me reflect on the innocents whose lives became punchlines here a few days ago. It is completely unacceptable, and also unacceptable to accuse a father of molesting his children. Nothing scares in life more than losing children, and nothing offends a father more than being accused of being improper with his children, or mocking the death of children.

Well said Ibime. I can relate to that scare you had.
I am happy he's alright now.

donjazet:
Talk to the molested fool. He started all this. Just as he has constantly done.
Everyone knows he has no shame. He always seeks problems.

Nateevs and Ibime, say the truth, how many people and how many times has the motherfucker fought on this forum in the last decade?
He lives for hit, he is a self proclaimed e-warrior, so I don't get why you would be cautioning me, he is a guy with psychological issues that always has the urge to be validated by e-fights.
Focus on the fool, not me.

Okay this is the truth.

His response to you was completely disgusting. Nobody deserves those comments. I cannot understand any circumstance under which such comments are permissible to be directed at anyone .

Havng said that, by a mile, you were the super instigator. You went needlessly down a route, laced with very vile abuse and escatlated the tussle when you started to say very digusting things about family. He asked you to stop and at that point you really should have.

I am not absolving any one of you of blame or condoning the circumstance surrounding anything said. Both of you have said very abonimable things and the least you can do is own your contribution to this horrible outcome. I cannot imagine how much pain you feel from what was said but please don't make it look like he would not have been extremely hurt by your preceeding posts.

You guys should find a way and rise above the emotional hurt, and manufacture an apology from somewhere abeg.

Donzajet and Nihilist,

Guys I have not been here in a while and maybe this sort of tone has been set in my absence but this has got to be most unpleasant set of posts I have ever read on this forum. I see e-fights all the time but what this has descended into? I cannot lie. You guys both crossed the line.

Come on guys.

donjazet:
How do you know what you said about the bolded is true, seeing as there are no prominent Moslems who come out boldly to criticize the practice.

You seem to be clearly oblivious to the facts that criticizing any aspect of Islam can legally lead to your death?
Didn't you see the thread on front page that I shared here in one of my recent posts.

Muslim lawyers have endorsed and sanctioned the death sentence of a man who "blasphemed" against Mohammed?
How will the religion continue to evolve if it doesn't even entertain any form of dissent or criticism? How does it evolve when it's members are threatened upon the pain of apostasy and death if they dare question or leave the religion?

Just take a look at this thread for example, look at how damola has started throwing abuses at me simply because I asked him to scrutinize his belief.
We know that Amoto94 and fbs are Muslims and some other neutral observers here are Muslims, have you heard any of them come out and state boldly "yes, I'm a Muslim but i don't condone child marriage".

Condemning child marriage means condemning Mohammed and that is what no Moslem will dare do, which is just absolutely pitiful.

I am not oblivious to the potential violence some will wield in the name of religion. I acknowledged that in my last post. You seem oblivious to the fact that hundreds of years ago, Christians did the same things in the name of religion. We are no different from them. We are just lucky to have evolved earlier.

I don't know those you roll with but I have many friends who are Muslims - some who will say verbatim that they don't condone it and others who may not, but I confirm by their non-participatory actions. I don't need people to be religious or political activists. I don't push the bar further by asking them to criticize their beloved prophet for a decision made hundreds of years ago, at a time when it may be seen as normal in society to do so.

It's okay for people to not verbalize their disagreements with the acts, for fear of religious retribution or how such views may be seen by fanatics. It doesn't mean they condone it either.

You guys need to understand religious sensitivity and reasons behind it. You have to start from that end, if the goal is to bring an end to this abhorrent acts of paedophilia.

But if your goal is to criticize the religion first, then you will achieve nothing.

donjazet:
I think you misunderstand me. I am perfectly aware that there are pedophiles who carry out their repulsive acts independent of religious beliefs.

The problem however is that hardly will they justify their actions as moral and right.
In ancient times, man had shorter live spans and almost every civilization accepted child marriages.

However, today we are very much evolved in our thinking and thought process. We know that it is terrible for a man to have carnal knowledge of children whose organs aren't even fully developed. Look at that picture i posted, you can see the girl hasn't even developed breasts yet.
We know the range of psychological issues and trauma that befall such infant brides.
We just know how terrible such practices are but we have a religion with billions of followers all over the word that still partake in this carnage while justifying it as normal.

Yes, humanity has its darkest side, some people do a lot of bad things irrespective of religion but those people hide and will not defend their actions because they know it is wrong, but isn't it crazy that we live in a society where you could be legally killed if you say Mohammed is a pedophile. When that was indeed true.

There was a time in history when Christian religious fanatics in ancient England will chop your head off for blasphemy against Jesus. It's no different to what is happening now with Islamic fundamentalists. Christianity has gone through centuries of evolution. And now Christians seem more tolerant of what is considered religious slander. Islam is learning and evolving , albeit in a new world, it's evolving nonetheless.

So it's been the way of man. People been doing things under the guise of religion for eons.

It's not the religion in people that causes them to do things, it's the people in religion who do things. Paedophilia is not exempt.


The fact is that there are way more liberal Muslims now than there were decades ago, as evidenced by the millions of southern Nigerian Muslims who don't condone the acts of paedophilia. In another 50 years, there will be millions of more Muslims, born into a less conservative society, who chose not to condone it.

donjazet:
But today, acts like these are justified by millions of Muslims around the world because it is protected by sharia law, which is the prerogative moral guide of most Moslems.
Many Moslems still do this because Mohammed did this.

The painful part about this is the fact that if you criticize this, you risk losing your neck. Shameful isn't it?

There's no denying the role that religious fanatics play in the discourse; but we add to the problem when we don't separate facts from widely-held false beliefs. There are 10s of millions of southern Nigerian Muslims who don't take child wives. There are millions of southern Nigerian Muslims who don't condone the idea either.

In the UK here, there are tons of non-religious men from a certain demographic who constantly engage in sexual relations with young boys and girls. The only difference is they cannot legally marry them. I am willing to bet that if there is legal cover for these people, they too will try to marry young boys and girls.

Some people will try to do this, regardless of region or religion. It's a human thing, not a religious thing.

ShitStain:
Religion of pedophiles

Statements like these are just about as inflammatory as the abhorrent acts of child marriage.

I think you will find that child marriage is only a cultural thing rather than a religious belief of any kind; and that most Muslims around the world do not condone the act.

I am a Christian but even I know child marriage has nothing to do with the Islamic religion.

Chilwell is getting grief like this even before kicking a football? Nawa o.

I like Chilwell. I think he can be solid.

Welcome Ben Chiwell. I think you are going to fit in perfectly.

Ibime:
Yes, he can play LB

THat's the first thing I thought when I saw videos of him.
LB material.

Anyone watched Eduoard Mendy from Rennes? How good is he?

donjazet:
My man Nateevs. Do you play fpl?

Hey man. Used to. Not done it in five seasons.
Looking to take it up this season.

MorataFC:
I'm confused oh, I thought you are referring to Xavier?

I was. I am saying even though he started his career in defence, he has that robustness, technical ability and combative ability to move in defensive midfield.

BlueMann:
I think that's the plan...let him use this season to settle down and acclimatize, he should be good to go for the 2021/22 season.

He might even break in midway like Gilmour did last season.

Surely with the fixture congestion, he should get some minutes in the Carabao. I think I'd also like to see that Bryan Fiabema play.

We sha get talent. After this summer, I don't see us going on another spending spree like this anytime soon.

Indeed. It's a combination of two seasons worth of transfer spends. But at least there is the appearance of wise and strategic spending, in contrast to the scatter gun approach of only a fee years ago.

And yes, lots of talent. And you imagine the likes of Conor Gallagher, Marc Guehi, Ian Maatsen, Armando Broja waiting in the wings as top notch contenders for spots in the first team, I see a good things unfolding this season and onwards.

Griffon:
Nateevs was saying almost same thing earlier today.

Let's hope Lampard shares same sentiment. We can bring in Thiago Silva to help plug the gap at the back on a short term basis, while closely following Xavier's development.

I'll suggest he gets integrated into the first team next season.

Bro I have been good o. Na time o. Being a Dad of 3 with work join. Not easy to find all the time like back in the day. But this season dey excite me.

On Xavier, I strongly believe in the young talent. I think he will break in sooner than expected. I know a few people have mentioned his defensive qualities; what attracts me more is his technical ability on the ball. The foot work for his height is incredibly exceptional. Reminds me more of Patrick Viera than the Van Dijk tags I see all around.

In fact, I have a prediction that he will end up succeeding Kante in midfield. I expect him to be training with the first team soon.

Meanwhile, I am loving this links with Gimenez. Someone tell me this is all true.

Griffon:
That's for the development squad not the main team.

Oh this is coming to the main team quicker than you may think. You need to see this guy play. Note his name.

I am liking all the moves regarding the club's signings and targets - main and development squads.

Very exciting times.