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A yoruba was special adviser to Enugu gov
An Edo is currently a special adviser to Imo govt
A Yoruba was special adviser to Kalu
An hausa was the first MAYOR (Local govt chairman) in Enugu
As of today, an Igbo man and a Yoruba man hold political officers in Kano

Fasola is not doing anything new

Special assistant in Media and later special adviser and you call that a non-powerful position? Why not google Festus Adedayo and see how he played in Enugu back then. He was powerful and helped Nnamani to steal Enugu's money

The Igbo in Lagos govt what post is he holding?

Even if Sokoto state takes an Igbo cleaner it is a big deal in a country like Nigeria where tribalism is the king.

One Nigeria- Edo man In Imo Govt
« on: March 06, 2009, 04:23 PM »

http://www.independentngonline.com/news/ndig/article04
'How Ohakim Intends To Tackle Housing Needs In Imo'
By Uche Nwosu Reporter, Owerri
As Imo State citizens within and outside criticise Governor Ikedi Ohakim that he has not done enough to give the people shelter and accommodation except demolition of their houses and structures, a non-indigene of the state and surveyor by training, Chief Tito Asekhame, has said the Governor had done well so far, considering what his administration has been able to put on ground in the past two years.

The Edo State-born politician, who is also an attorney of law, is based in Owerri, Imo State capital. In fact, he is Special Adviser to the Governor on Housing and Urban Development, a portfolio he got after his experience in the housing sector was x-rayed and accepted by the administration. Though, Ohakim has been criticised by many for failing to build houses since assumption of office in May 2007, Asekhame believes the government would soon begin a housing project that would accommodate both public servants and counterparts in the private sector.

According to him, the Bureau of Housing and Urban Development on the express approval of the Governor made a call for expression of interest from reputable developers and consultants to come into public private partnership (PPP) with the state in the development of quality and affordable houses for citizens of Imo State.

The call, he said, was borne out of three prime factors. The first is, "The need to shelter the Imo populace." His words, "While everyone understands the fact that housing is the bane of any growing urban settlement, understanding the housing needs and the means of satisfying the people takes even a greater amount of money, and only very few organisations globally can achieve any meaningful result single-handedly. It has been estimated that about N200 billion would be required, at least, to meet the needs of the state in terms of affordability and spread, but may not even necessarily guarantee a total housing cover."

He and quickly added that the government had decided to pool resources of these companies and organisations that can source fund and bring them to Imo state to invest.

The second factor, he calls "stimulus for wealth creation". According to him, this is often underplayed in the analysis of PPP option in most Nigerian projects. If X amount of money is to be invested in the housing development by the various companies then, at least, 60 per cent of this amount would be spent in Imo. "The beauty of the whole system is that rather than the projected fund of say, N10 billion, required to build houses, wealth running into over N50 billion is created," he said. Analysis is that if N10 billion is spent within Imo State to actually put the buildings in place, ancillary business is created to carter for the houses that have to come in.

The third factor, he calls, "real estate market development". Giving reasons for this, Asekhame averred that considering the recent downward plunge in globally economy, the only market not hard-hit as of now is the real estate market. He argued that even if there had been or will be stagnation in sales, under normal circumstances, houses once put on the ground represent assets that have no downward slope in their curves. They appreciate by the second in value despite the height of financial austerity measures in the economy.

Defending the seemingly state government's inaction on housing and development of properties, the Governor's aide maintained that any government that offers this opportunity to its citizens is definitely on the right track. Thus, the creation of opportunity to invest fund, for instance, in the economy through real estate creates as much as five times that amount in the economy in mid term and perhaps more in the long run. No better way, he insisted, to put wealth in the hands of the citizens of any state than this.

"The legacy alone is something better imagined. The World Bank housing estate in new Owerri was allocated at N300 with present value of about N300,000 on the cost of acquiring a plot," he disclosed, adding that the government has a housing development programme that is five to 10,000 units of low, mid and high end houses, which, according to him, would be sold to individuals in the state, adding that the administration's successful drive in this area would lead the state to rejoin the National Housing Fund and create a veritable avenue for mortgage fund for low income earners.

On whether there is any estate being planned for the state, Asekhame disclosed that Ohakim's administration has launched a drive to create five mega estates, spanning all the senatorial zones of the state. He contended that it may seem like a tall dream, but the response "we've got so far has shown that there are many interests" around the corner. On the international scene, the attorney revealed that countries like the United Kingdom, United States, Canada, Slovakia, Turkey and Iran have indicated interest to be part of the housing development programme in Imo.

He used the opportunity to announce the decision of the state government to salvage the Okporo Housing Estate, stating that though the government kept that project started by the previous administration in abeyance due to financial reasons, the Ohakim administration had decided that something must be done to salvage the estate. He said this would be done through sourcing of funds locally to free the estate from its uncompleted nature. Right now, the estate has been put up for public bidding.

In the East, the first Lord Mayor of Enugu, the capital of defunct Eastern Region, was Malam Umaru Altine, who hailed from Sokoto. He and his other kinsmen settled in Enugu in the 1940s. They joined the Zikist Movement and the NCNC, the predominant political party in Eastern Nigeria and identified with other young men in all that they did towards the end of colonial rule. Altine was one of those jailed, along with Mbazulike Amechi, after the coal mine shootings, when they led civil disobedience campaigns.

http://allafrica.com/stories/201003110135.html

An Edo is currently a special adviser to Imo govt
A Yoruba was special adviser to Kalu
An hausa was the first MAYOR (Local govt chairman) in Enugu
As of today, an Igbo man and a Yoruba man hold political officers in Kano

Fasola is not doing anything new

Festus Adedayo, top ranked official in the govt of former governor of Enugu state

http://www.ebeano.org/articles/governors_legacies.html
http://allafrica.com/stories/200505310205.html
http://www.accessmylibrary.com/article-1G1-137152571/oduduwa-son-enugu-govt.html

~Bluetooth:
source please !!

Look for it here. It was here on NL.

^^^^^^^^
Yoruba was chief press secretary and later special adviser to Nnamani in Enugu state
Yoruba was special assistant to Orji Kalu.

spikedcylinder:
Are the Igbo Governors and other Igbo law makers going to take a cue? i.e include a higher members of other tribes in their cabinet shuffling?

Yorubas have been in top state positions in Abia and Enugu, and an Edo in Imo. There are a number of threads here on nairaland you can learn of that FACT. Moreover, if yoruba pop in Igbo states is comparable to Igbo pop in Lagos, then they can ask for EVEN more positions

50% is actually modest, may be something like 75% will do. If Igbo pop in Lagos is insignificant why should Fasola care? Igbo in Oyo is probably 0.00000000% of the population of Oyo, hence they are not an issue in Oyo politics.

Fashola pledges to increase Igbo participation in cabinet
Font size:   Ambrose Nnaji 30/07/2010 13:20:00
Gov Fashola


THE Lagos State government under the administration of Mr. Babatunde Raji Fashola has once again restated his resolve to give equal opportunities to the Igbo community to participate in the affairs of the state governance.

He has also re-assured his commitment to the safety and security of lives and property of indigenes and non-indigenes in the state.

He made this promise following a request by the Igbo political group in the Action Congress (AC) on the state government to increase the Igbo political slots in the cabinet both at the state and local government levels.

The governor made this known in his speech delivered during the inauguration ceremony of the Old Alimosho Chapter of the Igbo United Political Coalition, held at Igando-Ikotun Local Council Development Area Secretariat, Ikotun, Lagos at the weekend.

Represented by the Hon. Jino Ajaye, the governor, who stated that Igbo leadership in the state has contributed in no measurable way to the socio-economic growth of Lagos state, noted that in a true democratic setting, ethnic or political belief should not be a barrier to the smooth running of any government.

According to him, no meaningful economic development would be achieved in the state where rancour, kidnapping, ethnic and tribal sentiments were the order of the day.

"Politics is for all of us. The democracy we are witnessing today, the transformational changes, the developmental stages in the state were made possible because we are in true democratic period. Lagos State has now grown to a mega state because your contribution has been added to it. We are not doing it alone, we are doing it in conjunction with all your efforts," the governor said.

Meanwhile, the Igbo representation in the Lagos state cabinet has been commended by the state government. It would be recalled that the office of Budget and Planning has been occupied by Igbo born indigene since the Tinubu-Fashola administrations and has been described as one of the best, vibrant offices that has sparked off a lot of economic developments in the state.

While appealing to Lagosians to be law abiding and go about their businesses without fear or molestation, the governor assured that adequate security has been put in place to protect lives and property of the people.

In his address, the chairman, Igbo United Political Coalition Alimosho Local Government Area, Hon. Onuegbu Theophilus, who revealed that the group has already mapped out strategies to ensure that the Action Congress was voted back into office in the 2011 general elections, however, regretted that some members of the Igbo political coalition in Alimosho were denied registration in some LCDAs and wards during the 2007 general elections.

He said that some AC leaders in Alimosho saw the Igbo United Political Coalition as a rival group and threat to true democratic principles.

According to him, the influx of the group into the party was a magnanimous swell-up to the numerical strength of the party and an assurance of the South-East and South-South block vote for the Action Congress in the Lagos State.

He further decried the non representation of the Igbo Political Coalition since the inception of the present LCDA government in the six LCDAs in Alimosho.

"We have no Councillorship appointment, no Special Advisers appointment, no Senior Special Assistant appointment except in Igando-Ikotun LCDA," Onuegbu said.

Adding, our fair share of dividends of democracy both at state and local government levels including hajj/Jerusalem pilgrimage slots, Board Membership appointments have not been duly accorded to us.

Hon. Theophilus, who condemned personal interest and tribal sentiments in the running of any government, urged the party leaders to be fair and patriotic in the discharge of the dividends of democracy. Saying, in a democratic dispensation, everybody has the right to vote and be voted for.

"The Igbo United Political Coalition was part of the Lagos State Action Congress which came up in 2006. It was a coalition of many groups, forums, caucuses and fronts that sprang up to pull support for the Action congress during the campaign period of 2007 general elections", Onuegbu said.

"This coalition was structured with multiple tentacles that galvanized together non-Yoruba language speaking ethnic groups from Abia, Akwa Ibom, Anambra, Delta, Bayelsa, Edo, Cross River, Ebonyi, Enugu Imo and Rivers States".

In Alimosho L.G.A. which comprises six local Council Development areas-(LCDA), Igbos have over 48 percent of the population while other ethnic groups from South-South geo-political zone consist about 22.6 percent of Alimosho population, he concluded.

Ojukwu and OBj who fine pass?

Ojukwu and Clarke who even fine pass?

Op is a complete olodo. Which one be rear again?

Before the dust the South East PDP governors raised settles over nothing, may I quickly join many other South Easterners to ask what must have informed their grandstanding on President Goodluck Jonathan for 2011.

Early this month, we read a position from the three South East governors of the PDP extraction that they don’t have interest in contesting the presidential election next year.
The statement had an undertone of resolving to queue behind President Goodluck Jonathan. It was understandably so because he is the one that holds the right end of the cudgel in the party for being in power.

Yes, some of us can also take positions on who to support although we are not PDP members. Our decisions are to a large extent inconsequential since our votes make no impact in deciding who wins the election. In my 40s, I have decided to learn to vote for the first time next year if things go well as expected under Prof. Attahiru Jega. That is the irony of Nigeria’s democratic system where citizens in the 40s never voted before because they know their votes would make no difference.
But it becomes unpardonable a blunder when it involves those whose antics count in deciding who gets power.
I watched the mood of my people since the public pronouncement and have not seen a move in the direction of reaping any dividend from that position. The import of the stance is that they have decided for all of us in a one-party state as ours.

I am not a politician, but I don’t need to be in who-is-who to know exactly what is what. It is not until I join a party for political struggle before I know that political negotiation is power sharing. In power sharing, all is targeted at profit. Nobody gets into a deal without having a stake and, in fact, defining what his terms are.

The way things go right now, I have not understood what is the bargaining chip of our PDP governors that led them into their conclusion. In 1999, all Igbo queued behind PDP. They said we voted in moon slide fashion for the party. We waited with outstretched hands for the manna that accompanies a support, and at last I don’t think we saw it. One day, I had audience with one of the governors of the South East of the same PDP in about 2007. I asked him to please roll out the benefits we (Nd’Igbo) got from PDP for the massive support especially our Onitsha-Owerri road that has defied completion in 11 years of the party as at today. He wandered off into the evil forest of self-deceit, and at last never found his way back in giving me a specific answer. He tried telling the story of how Igbo people frustrate contracts awarded their area by the FG. I listened and laughed, and also cried. I laughed because I know he knew he could not deceive me with such tissue of fallacies in what I know how it functions. I cried because it wasn’t a kind of one-on-one forum where you would consistently press your point to pin him down. I know contracts by the FG are awarded by FG, handled by the FG, supervised by the FG and certified by the FG. So if someone tells you that the governors in the South East stopped the fixing of the Enugu-Aba or Enugu-Onitsha expressway, he is a jester.

In 2007, Obasanjo and his co-travellers, including the Igbo PDP, zoned presidency to the North. The late Umar Yar’Adua picked the slot after all other contestants had been deceived in a grand political backstab.

The Igbo PDP members queued behind him. His cohorts who trade with our collective rights as it is done all over Nigeria with the commoner bullied us on how the best thing to us would be Yar’Adua. We accepted, but we only heard of the promised land and never saw it like Moses or ever got there.
Early last year, Prof. Miriam Ikejiani-Clark of UNN gave me copy of a lecture she delivered at the convocation of the Anambra State University on November 18, 2008. Professorially, she listed 76 federal appointments, with names of appointees, Yar’Adua had made between May 2007 and that November (18 months)
Take the bombshell: Yar’Adua had appointed 39 northerners (of the three zones. That gives an average of 13 per zone, all things at par)
He allocated 23 of his appointments to the South South. The South West had 10 and the South East had just four. The four were: Dr. Ifeoma Amobi, Senior Special Assistant, Development Matters; Akachukwu Nwakpo, Special Assistant, Special Duties; Dr. Austin Amadi, Special Assistant, Mrs. Esther Mary Obi, Special Assistant. I know he also appointed Senator Polycarp Nwite Special Adviser on politics. But that should have been after Ikejiani-Clark’s period of focus.
With this list, you don’t need any soothsayer to show you whether the masterminds of our massive support for Yar’Adua did it for their people or for selves. We swung back to the days of the locusts, the days of empty bargain.

Before Yar’Adua left us, he had earlier dropped Prof. Chukwuma Soludo from the Central Bank of Nigeria and they in unison railroaded him into a wild goose chase in Anambra guber. That loss to the South East swelled the ranks of the North. So was Akunyili dropped in 2007 by Yar’Adua and made a minister and that slot went up north (North Central). But the DG of SON, Dr. John Akanya from North Central, completed his ninth year last May, and nobody had mooted his replacement after overstaying two tenures by 14 months.
Later this year, the terribly vilified Prof. Maurice Iwu went the same way. Recently, Donald Duke revealed to us the real people that rigged the elections and counted Iwu out. Ernest Ndukwe of the Nigeria Communications Commission joined the train.

There was such drop in mantle of headship of the Corporate Affairs Commission (CAC) last year. The man from the South East who was the most senior waited in vain as acting DG for eternity until they showed him the way out for a DG from another region.
Sometime early this month, there was rumour that Jonathan had picked a successor for Ernest Ndukwe in the NCC. A name from the South East was mentioned. All of a sudden that has changed again for another from the South South whose name has been submitted to the Senate for confirmation.
Goodluck Jonathan has made several appointments since he came, I can only remember one going to the South East in the power sector reform given to Prof. Barth Nnaji, the super competent wizard.

Jonathan has shown signs of travelling the same old road – the peculiar hide-and-seek between the presidents and Nd’Igbo on one hand and between Nd’Igbo leaders in PDP and their kinsmen who they cheat on the other. They are the super kidnappers. While their less powerful people kidnap selectively, they kidnap a collective Peter to pay a selective Paul.
I ask again, with the way Jonathan is driving steadily towards negativity against Nd’Igbo in the appointments so far like Yar’Adua, of what value is this support stunt the South East PDP governors mounted for him on our behalf. Maybe at the end of this outing, they will own up to failure like Chief Achike Udenwa told media men two days before he disengaged that the Igbo governors failed Nd’Igbo.

As Jonathan woes other regions with appointments like the North with Vice President and INEC chairmanship, he strips us of the few we had and replaces us with others. For goodness sake, these men should watch and tell us on time if they entered into a bargain as charitable politicians – strings not attached. Having started this way, maybe Rehoboam will scorch Nd’Igbo with scorpions unlike his father, Solomon, who whipped them with canes.

http://www.guardiannewsngr.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=18557:nigerian-vicar-others-convicted-of-marriage-scam-in-uk&catid=1:national&Itemid=559
Nigerian, Vicar, Others Convicted Of Marriage Scam In UK Saturday, 31 July 2010 00:00 From Oghogho Obayuwana, Abuja News - National   
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A Nigerian is among three men who were on Thursday found guilty of being behind a massive scam to organize hundreds of sham marriages in East Sussex, in the United Kingdom.
The conviction of the trio one of whom is a vicar, is coming barely seven days after some persons were arrested by operatives of the UK Boarder Agency in Britain. And those arrests came within 48 hours after the British government said it was on the verge of introducing a wide range of new measures to tackle illegal immigration beginning from last week.
The British High Commission said on Friday in Abuja that Rev. Alex Brown, Ukrainian national, Vladymyr Buchak and immigration lawyer Michael Adelasoye were all convicted of conspiring to facilitate breaches of immigration law following an eight-week trial at Lewes Crown Court.
Unlike the Nigerian, Adelasoye, Brown had earlier pleaded guilty to a charge of carrying out marriage ceremonies without bonds of matrimony being published.
Their convictions follow one of the biggest ever investigations by the UK Border Agency’s South East Region Immigration Crime Team, a specialist unit of agency investigators and officers seconded from Sussex Police.
The High Commission revealed further yesterday: “The trio were found to be involved in around 360 weddings at the Church of St Peter and St Paul in St Leonards-on-Sea, East Sussex, between July 2005 and June 2009.
“Reverend Brown officiated at all the ceremonies. In the vast majority of these cases, the reason for the marriages was to assist applications for residency in the UK.”
Many of the weddings involved Eastern European nationals who Buchak supplied through his contacts in factories and food processing plants around the south coast, and West Africans, whom Adelasoye would represent and process immigration applications for.
The High commission noted that “many of his clients were immigrants who had exhausted all other methods of staying in the UK.”
The statement continued: “Buchak and Adelasoye referred their clients to Brown’s church, where the weddings would take place, usually at times where they would not be noticed by the regular congregation or church wardens.

How much human body parts will he be fed with? Or that one is beyond public knowledge?

A' Ibom: Man beheads 13-year-old niece
Stories from NGOZI UWUJARE, Ibadan

Wednesday, July 28, 2010

The entire people of Nsit Ubium Local Government Area of Akwa Ibom State were shocked to the marrow penultimate Wednesday. It was not without a cause. That was the day a 30-year-old man identified as John Etim Akpan allegedly beheaded his 13-year-old niece.

Akpan with the Severed head


Daily Sun gathered that the suspect, Akpan, met his niece returning from school soaked in rainwater. He then offered to help the girl by carrying her on his motorbike. But Akpan allegedly had other plans.


Instead of taking the little girl home, Akpan was said to have taken her to his room. Once in the safe confines of his abode, Akpan allegedly severed the young girl’s head.

Akpan then sneaked out of the room with the girl’s head and buried it somewhere with the hope of later removing it for sale.


However, while removing the girl’s body, some members of the family had suspected that something was wrong as they saw blood dripping on the ground.

They later discovered the body and shouted for help. The villagers and other youths in the surrounding villages quickly rushed out and beat Akpan to a state of coma before the matter was reported to the police.


One of the youths, Elder Silas Bassey, told Daily Sun that when they heard the noise from the family, they rushed out. He said after discovering what really happened, the mob descended on Akpan and beat him mercilessly until he passed out.


It was said that during interrogation, Akpan confessed that he actually beheaded his niece. He said he wanted to get money from the sale of the skull.

The culprit has since been remanded in prison custody, pending further investigations by the police.
http://odili.net/news/source/2010/jul/28/501.html

Glad that this company is sited in alaigbo. Other Igbo entrepreneurs siting their businesses elsewhere for God-knows-what reasons should take note that goldfish has no hiding place. Meaning if your product is good, they will seek you out even if your company is sited in the depths of the ocean.

9jaganja:
Then again read the title of your thread. That is your position my friend!! Edit it and give it something that clearly states your position. Still Sentiments is involved. Your issue with Edwin Clarke is sentiment and if Jonathan doesn't distant himself from Edwin Clarke and you didn't vote for him cause of that, it's sentiment.!! Sentiments!!! Many people hated Obama's former pastor but what did Obama say? I can only deny Rev Wright as much as I can deny being a member of the black community. People didn't vote for him based on sentiments. Yeah Blacks did vote for him cause of racial sentiment as did whites too but Obama's speeches, plans, policy was what really won him the election. Get gone again and don't fly back to me please. Your title clearly states your position.

A title is only a short summary of anything. It can never be the same as the full content. Summary lessons 101: Moreover, what you feel about my position is nothing but a straw man feeling. So go and chill with ya wife/girlfriend and leave what is clearly above your comprehension.

I do not know this fellow so his competence or otherwise is not clear as yet. But one thing is sure, if we de-emphasize zoning, then the political space must be open for as many as 1000 candidates or more to contest from all nooks and crannies of the country. The stiff competition will bring out the best.

By Monte Whaley
July 29, 2010 01:08AM


While the election season in the U.S. is steaming ahead, another campaign is being launched in Colorado by a man who wants to save his native land from graft and greed.

Sam Wantings (Nwanti), a 46-year-old Greeley resident, is running for presidency of Nigeria, a country he visits frequently, even though he’s lived in the United States for more than half his life. Mr Wantings said he wants to use his background as a detective and business entrepreneur to rid Nigeria of corruption and bring honest business opportunities to his people.

“Nigeria needs to change,” he said. “And I’m the only one who can effect that.”

He said his 2011 run for the presidency commences in August, when he will return to Nigeria and begin his on-the-ground campaign. He plans to do that for most of this year and into next year.

“Criminals and corrupt politicians run my country, and I feel I need to run now to make any kind of difference,” he said. “It needs to happen soon, or it will be too late.”

Mr. Wantings, who has dual citizenship in Nigeria and the U.S., said he does not believe his split loyalties will hurt his chances. “I think the people will appreciate that I can give our country a fresh perspective, a fresh view of the things that need to be done,” he said.

The man and his family moved to California in 1984, and he became a security officer while he attended Sacramento State College to study Criminal Justice. He stayed in contact with friends and family back home. In 2003, Mr. Wantings served as vice chairman of the Peoples’ Democratic Party chapter in Washington. That same year, he ran unsuccessfully for governor of Imo State.

He moved to Greeley in 2006 because his wife got a job at a local nursing home. He said he’s been trained by the FBI and KGB, which makes him an ideal choice to root out corruption. He also said his connections with his family business in Nigeria means he can bring legitimate commerce to his land.

Mancho Samba, chairman of the African Detective Association, is listed as a staunch supporter on Mr. Wantings’ campaign literature. “He will obey, follow, respect the law,” Samba said in his endorsement. “Corruption, crimes, will be on vacation when he takes over in 2011.”

Mr. Wantings wants endorsements from local business and political leaders to help rebuild the infrastructure of Nigeria. His plan is to partner with Colorado firms, who will then use Nigerian labour for the rebuilding.

“This is my country’s best chance to realise its potential,” he declared.

http://234next.com/csp/cms/sites/Next/Home/5599585-146/denver_resident_joins_nigerian__presidential.csp

9jaganja:
Mehn read the title of your post, you never said Jonathan should distance himself from Edwin. The title of your thread is your position. Now read your thread's first post again and tell me you are not being sentimental. I said vote for Jonathan based on his own merit not because of what Edwin Clarke said. Read the title of your thread and tell me that ain't sentimental? Many people don't know history but simple logical reasoning will tell you when something ain't right. I gotta go. Sorry if you think I misrepresented your position. But fuk you for changing it!!!!

Just in case you got blind by design, the quote below was an addendum to my initial post. You can find it back in post number 18. Interestingly, it was posted way before your own initial contribution (post number 63).

The nexus between the two men is that Edwin Clarke is Jonathan's godfather and any opinion he holds against anyone will influence Jonathan's eventual decisions on that person. Thus, either Jonathan distances himself from an avowed Igbo hater or the hater himself apologises for all his unprovoked vents. Otherwise Igbos will withhold their votes for Jonathan. You may want to think about why Igbos have not made any categorical statement about supporting Jonathan up till now. We will not be stampeded to do so, not with people like Clarke parading themselves around the presidency. After all, every reasonable group fights for its own. Clarke cannot eat his cake and have it without something else giving in.

9jaganja:
So kindly tell me where I misrepresented your position? I thought this was just a discussion not an argument, Go back and read my post and tell me how I misrepresented your position? Know when to you use phrases?? I can tell you Igbo land can't be as bad as some places I've been in Nigeria. But i made it clear that I have no proof and that I don't "think" Igbos are marginalized. What part of that don't you get? I acknowledge Igbos feel marginalized but still stood that I don't think so which is an uncertain position!!! You are incorrigible seriously. You just want to show offf your accusing attitude. Pointing fingers at someone who never said anything wrong is just plain dumb. Onlytruth got into it and didn't have a problem with what I said and understood my position but you just pulled off an accusing stunt, Go please !!!!!

My position was that Clarke should apologise to Igbos for the stand he took against them or that Jonathan should distance himself from an Igbo-hating Clarke. That was based on FACTS from Clarke's antecedents toward Igbos. Then you bounced in with a haughty countenance trying to show that my position was based on mere sentiments and not on FACTS. Therein lies the straw man[b]ness[/b] of your contribution. Do you feel you have a right to determine what is rational and what is sentiments in matters you have no clue about?

Anyone who has ever been to Obudu should be praying that this news is not true. Obudu ranch and the sorrounding scenery are in a world of their own. The only of its kind in those parts (Nigeria)

Does Jonathan even deserve the presidency? If we need a south south president at this point I believe there are far better candidates than him. What has been his achievements so far? He is already campaigning and hobnobbing relentlessly with people like Edwin Clarke-an enemy to peaceful co-existence, leaving the much needed governace unattended to. Security has deteriorated under his watch. Except he rigs himself in, I do not see him winning any free and fair election next year. Not at the snail-sped pace things are moving now.

9jaganja:
I think I'm done with you now! And secondly you have no clue what a straw man's argument mean you just heard it as a way to dispute people and you chose to use it. Well done and goodbye.

You wanna teach me English now? Even after practically admitting you have no clue how things work in Nigeria's politics? FYI, a straw man argument is an informal fallacy based on misrepresentation of an opponent's position. That is the definition and that is what you tried to do to the  position I take on this thread. You have not even being to Igboland and you sit here talking about Igbo non-marginalization? You know you must not contribute if you cannot sustain your position without showing ignorance. Thanks.

ikenwan:
It's as I said. The entire North votes as one united body, but the South? It's South West this, South East that, and ridiculously enough, South South. You've been divided. Your conquest is on-going.

Which North are you talking about? The one that we all read about that has been thorougly demystified? Enough already with the fabulous one north nonsense.

People like Debosky talk of tribeless voting when a Yoruba presidency is not at stake. We still remember AD and Obasanjo and 2003 very vividly. Hypocrisy.

9jaganja:
I heard Nigerian economy fell sharply under IBB. This isn't about talking about why I won't vote IBB, it's about correcting your your reason for not voting Jonathan which is because of someone Jonathan is not which is Edwin. Jonathan is not Edwin. So sentiments aside, is Jonathan good enough for you? If yes vote for him and if you won't vote for him, do it because there is a better candidate not because Edwin Clarke said something which has almost nothing to do with Jonathan.

Straw man argument. It is known that Nigeria's economy has been deteriorating over time. Each succeeding presidency worsens the economy more than they met it. So in that respect, IBB was better than  his successors, just like Obasanjo was better than Yaradua. Consider also the cost of crude oil during these periods and do the math. You still have no clue as to what directs how people vote in Nigeria. When you find it, you can come argue some more. Bye.