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Providence may have reigned in the Fresh Air promised by GEJ. The game may be up for our 'corrupt' leaders and GEJ's handlers - Nigeria will never be the same after these strikes. GEJ has inadvertently awakened the masses in Nigeria.

There will be an announcement that the N65/liter price has been reinstated in a few hours.    

I am fully convinced that GEJ is not in control and that he is fully unqualified and lacks the ability to govern a country such as ours. How he allowed the situation to get to this level is beyond me.  His advisers appear to be grossly incompetent and suffer from a severe disconnect from the masses - they seem to be living in a bubble.

GEJ needs to take the bull by the horn, reverse this untimely policy, start fighting corruption and Boko Haram, and regain the trust of the people of Nigeria. I'm afraid that his government may not survive if this strike continues beyond this week. Even if we assume that N1.4trillion is the amount needed to sustain the 419 subsidy, this administration can raise more than that amount by fighing corruption in the oil sector alone.

Sanusi itemized various ways in which corruption and looting takes place in the oil sector, let them invest only N1billion to plug those holes and use the savings to finance the 419 subsidy. Why implement a policy in a manner that causes 90% - 150% inflation overnight?  This is worse that foolishness and incompetence, it is outright shameful.

df2006 & Beaf, I am convinced that you people do not reside in Nigeria. Egbe ndi Eqyptians piafuka gi isi. olodo gbogbo.

edoyad:
If i remember correctly, you're actually the very person who blatantly denied the existence of any entity known as middle belt. 

What are you talking about? You people can "socially speaking", call all non-Dan Fodians in the geographical north and central north as the Middle Belt people or the Upper Belt people for all I care.  It appears that you have a short memory because you forgot that my only claim was that you are a Northerner, olodo. Even Shilgba admits that you are Northerners.

karfe:
@Naijaking, I hope you are not using that old map to jump into conclusions. There is actually no part of Kogi that can be seen as Igbo territory if you check very well. Kogi was just the old LGA in Koton Karfe which is now used to name the whole state due to lack of a common reference for the heterogeneous area. Remember Kogi has Yoruba as well

hehehe, biafrans will try to claim Kogi without being challenged. Thanks to people like karfe, that claim will be invalidated.

Naijaking, Happy New Year, I didn't know that you are a closet expansionist.

Madame wants Nigerians to be fair and objective in their criticisms, as far as the removal of the fuel subsidy is concerned. hehehehe Was she fair and objective in the implementation of the said subsidy removal? olodo

THE Minister of Finance and Coordinating Minister of the Economy, Dr Ngozi Okonjo-Iweala, has said that state governors entered into an agreement with the Federal Government on the removal of the fuel subsidy.

In her reaction to criticisms that she was solely responsible for the hike in the price of petrol, Okonjo-Iweala stated that the state governors were equally in support of the subsidy removal, adding that the decision was not taken by the Federal Government only.

Speaking on ‘Matters Arising,’ a programme of the Africa Independent Television (AIT) on Tuesday, the Finance Minister, while articulating that the benefits from removal of the fuel subsidy far outweighed the present hardship the people are facing, stated that she was not responsible for the removal of the subsidy, as many people had claimed, adding that the decision was even taken six months before she joined the administration of President Goodluck Jonathan.

“I was not there six months ago, when the state governors deliberated and agreed on the removal of fuel subsidy. Most of the governors then were aware. So, it would be unfair to say that I am solely responsible for this. What of the governors?” she said, adding that, “I am sure it is the people who don’t want me here in the first place that are spreading this false information around.”

Dr Okonjo-Iweala, therefore, tasked Nigerians to be fair and objective in their criticisms, as far as the removal of the fuel subsidy is concerned, insisting that the decision to remove fuel subsidy, as claimed in many quarters, was not determined by her alone.

Read the rest here ==> http://tribune.com.ng/index.php/front-page-news/34158-state-govs-initiated-subsidy-removal-okonjo-iweala

Another display of gross incompetence by the National Security Adviser to the President. Are these people so daft, that they do not know how to form partnerships to fight terrorism through diplomatic means and other high level security meetings that they have to announce their security plans in Washington times?

The arrangement Azazi seems to be campaigning for should have been put in place long before 2012. I wonder how he now hopes to accomplish his objectives particularly after the President has announced to the world that the terrorists have infiltrated every level of the executive arm of Government. These people are jokers and bofoons.

In as much some of the infiltrators are in the executive arm of government, some of them are in the parliamentary arm of government, while some of them are even in the judiciary, as the President put it, and reasonable people know that the said culprits are not rabbits, goats, parrots, cows, kudun kudus, insects, or some other creatures, but real human beings, why in the world has this President not rounded them up and charged them with treason??

Is he waiting for another House Resolution to encourage him do do his job?

Beaf:
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ndu_chucks is a rep na.

Bruv ndu_chucks, why did you fellows block a motion to bring the cabal to book? Why did you not cut your wages?
Sir, I await your kind reply.

who is a Rep? Can you read, olodo.

jmaine:
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Oga Ndu, can we conclude that you are in support of the reps decision to shy away from pursuing this so called Oil mafias if found wanting . . since you chose to only see or hear what appealed to you in that sham session . .

I can understand why the Reps do not want to cheapen the spirit of their resolutions by passing a resolution stating that law enforcement agents should do their work. Next thing you people will ask them to pass resolutions to investigate car smugglers, a resolution to investigate child traffickers, a resolution to investigate oil bunkerers, and heck a resolution to investigate Senators who patronize Ashawos.

Beaf:
I am sure that the average Nigerian who wishes to engage unbiased thinking can begin to see how deeply entrenched the cabal was, and how delicate the task of removing them is.

[b]Why would the House of Rep block investigations, arrests and prosecutions if they are not part of it? [/b]GEJ did a very bold thing, and now fools are being incited to think they are doing a clever thing by mortgaging the future for their kids.

Your question above in bold, is senseless and shows complete ignorance. We should applaud the House of Reps for the sensible resolution which was passed during the emergency session.

Do you really think a resolution should be passed before our laws can be effectively enforced? Instead of passing a useless resolution, shouldn't they invite the irresponsible law enforcement agencies to tell us why they did not aggressively pursue the subsidy criminals.   Beaf, you are becoming a major disappointment. olodo

otokx:
Mulikat Akande-Adeola of Ogbomosho is saying the house should mediate, she is obviously confused. She is neither for or against but wil be counted for removal.

Mulikat is made a lot of sense. She rightfully pointed out that the issue is not the removal of Fuel Subsidy, but the timing and implementation of the removal.  The subsidy must go but its elimination should not be done in the abrupt and senseless manner the GEJ administration has done.

@OP, Don't expect a clueless Commander-In-Chief who is unable to take decisive actions against ordinary thugs at home to engage these terrorists in Cameroon.

frosbel:
This year could yet be Nigeria’s defining moment. It is not clear whether Jonathan understands the risky conjunction of explosive events he has put together in a pressure pot: whether it is the result of one of his typical but bungling deliberateness or the outcome of his boyish indifference to danger.

But here he is, with universities closed down and anger among the youths simmering, he began implementing the removal of fuel subsidy on January 1, just when the ordinary Nigerian had exhausted himself financially, and when Boko Haram had stretched the security agencies to their tactical limit.

If the country comes out of the cauldron unscathed, it is unlikely anything else would hurt it in the immediate future. But given the stage of the country’s political evolution, the chances of achieving that bliss is more theoretical than real.

^^^^^+1000

If the government does not reverse the removal of fuel subsidy before the strike begins, we should expect the most vicious and violent attacks to date, by Boko Haram, starting on Monday. Our clueless government fully expects to keep the sect under control during the strike.

I predict that more innocent Nigerians who go on strike will be killed than Boko Haram members in the next few days. As of today, while Suleja is on fire as we speak and GEJ security operatives are nowhere to be found, we have a 70% chance of being under a military government within 2 weeks. I sincerely hope to be wrong on my predictions.

calid16:
If indeed any mindset has ever been deserving of the term"aboki ", it would indeed be yours. I guess
Jonathan gave birth to bunch of worthless illiterate children and made them almajiris?

Who is responsible for decades of mismanagement and corruption that gas left that region with one of the lowest literacy levels and highest poverty rates on earth ?

Is there any year in the last two decades that atleast one International body hasn't come out to sound the alarm about the conditions in the area producing these people ? But ofcourse, the usual "Allah knows best was your chorus"; because aboki know Allah pass every body on earth.

It's very painful that innocent people have died, and more painful that more will still perish over time. But after this implosion is complete, you don't have to think too hard who the biggest loser will be.

You have a right to rant all you want and to express your opinion. I am convinced that you sir, are bright enough to respond to my post by pointing out exactly, what part of it you disagree with. Your reactionary response which failed to address anything I wrote could make some readers think you are a bigot and a dummy.

Take a deep breath and try to see that your post above has done nada in explaining why and how a government cannot protect it's citizens.

[quote author=haka_nai link=topic=840351.msg9912936#msg9912936 date=1325932184]It's sad that alot of us simply play to the gallery,While things fall apart in Nigeria.My take on this is regrettable and sad.We as a people let ourselves be sucked in to this cycle of violence by justifying why we should take our neighbor an enemy and cause him harm.I am not a party to this madness.We can choose to fight this together or do it separately there by suggesting reprisals and bring in more people hoping for a taste of blood.The SinParty of violence and blood letting may flourish.If we keep thinking like animals.What are the problems and how can we draw an acceptable strategy or harmonize our goals to tackle this people, party,group,politicians or tribal/religious interest.
   We all have an alternative to this, identify our enemies, resist it together and be able to define our future.We can do it together than separately.If the goals of boko haram is to split the nation, lets show them greater harmony.If the goal of boko haram is to bring the voted government down, then it is only right we support the government now that ever.If boko haram wants to ruin the nation lets do the opposite and build her from all facets.If they want to make it un-governable then we mustn't fall for it by acting as they want causing more problems and escalating the situation but motivate the government and work with her as a people to make It governable.If boko haram choose to cause harm then lets make sure justice is done and they are brought to book.Insisting that FGN publish the sponsors and we insist that such communities join the nation in isolating them for Justice to take place under the watchful eyes of the people.
     BOKO HARAM is violent and trying to cause mayhem,being unruly and unjust!!! We seem to be acting in words like her suggesting more!!!! Don't let them use you Nigerians.The enemy is Boko Haram and not Nigeria!!!!! [/quote]^^^^ +1000

The enemy is indeed Boko Haram. But how do we fight the war declared by Boko Haram when we have an incompetent and clueless commander-in-chief - A commander-in-chief who declared a war on Nigerian citizens by the ill-timed subsidy removal? A commander-in-chief who supplies the enemy (Boko Haram) with armunition and other tools of war including the said ill-timed subsidy removal, does not deserve to lead us in this war.

If this commander-in-chief is incapable of defending Nigerians and stopping the killings, I'm afraid we are fast approaching the time to replace him.  I am so sad by the recent developments. Haba GEJ!!!! Do something for goodness sake!!!!

I am sure that the leaders of our armed forces have mapped out various scenarios of dealing with this war where all options, including a takeover, are being weighed. GEJ may very well succeed in providing the right environment for the military to return and set us back another 50years. olodo

May the souls of the deceased RIP.


GEJ had a wonderful opportunity to write his name in history, in golden ink, by organizing the best election in our history but he chose to break his own promise, he ran for the high office, and additionally broke the gentleman's agreement that has held our fragile democracy together for many years. To make matters worse, he blatantly rigged the election further insulting our intelligence.

As if these miscalculations were not enough, he announced the removal of fuel subsidy in the most daft manner and at the worst possible tiime. GEJ's handlers are going to render this clueless President the worst the country has ever seen. GEJ is solely responsible for all of the insecurity and instability facing the country. May Allah give him the wisdom to dig himself and the whole country out of the hole we are in.

Beaf:
I have always been against the fuel subsidy, but after reading what Sanusi has said, I actually now see the protesters as subversives and enemies of Nigeria.

The above statement is unfortunate. I, like you, am against fuel subsidy and agree that it should be scrapped. Having said that, I do not believe that we should be paying more than N65 per litre.

Corruption, which is the root of the subsidy brouhaha, is what the government should be addressing with the same vigor and promptness it is using to remove the fuel subsidy. It is quite dishonest of you to equate protesters of abruptly high fuel costs and costs of other goods and services, with supporters of thieves and corrupt businessmen. Shame on you for this act.

Pukkah:
How come Sanusi chose to ignore or not to elaborate on the possibility of providing crude oil to the private refineries at a concessionary rate pending when local production is increased to meet demand?

How come he also simply threw up his hands on the issue of corruption in the PPPRA, Customs, etc? Is there any attempt to aggressively reform and sanitize Customs and the Ports?

How come Sanusi and his cohorts are not insisting that the local (government) refineries must work and meet local demand?

How come that even with the current price of N141 per litre or so, they are not providing an explanation on the pricing of the petrol, diesel and kerosene that are still being refined by government refineries?

How come government is not giving specific targets in terms of infrastructure work to be achieved? (e.g. do something drastic if the quantity of megawatts does not get up to X by July 2012, or resign from office if additional 1,000 kilometres of federal roads are not tarred)

How come there's no attempt (even in the 2012 budget) to cut the cost of governance including personnel costs both in the executive and the legislature?

I am not against the removal of subsidy but it should be removed in a methodical, sensible and humane manner. The way it has been removed is too simplistic, lazy and even callous. The same that the planned purchase of 1,600 buses is simplistic, lazy and perfunctory.

^^^^ +1000

The bolded is the koko of the matter while the rest of your points one way or the other are tied to corruption. The government operatives have the information and I wonder why they are not addressing these issues promptly

FACE:
Ndu_Chucks, I thought you also wanted the removal of subsidy; what has changed your mind or did you only want it as a catalyst to other things ? FYI, nothing will happen and I endorse the removal although I don't like the fact that they were not straight forward with the removal date.

I am not opposed to the removal of the subsidy. Like you, my problem is with the timing of the removal and the accompanying dishonesty of the government on the matter.

I completely agree with Gbawe that the owners of Nigeria, are those from every corner of the nation, who come together to determine what direction the Nation must head in, without consulting we, the people. Beaf's attempt to turn this view into a tribal war is irresponsible and outright silly.

GEJ and his administration may very well have done themselves in and if care is not taken, the country will be destroyed in the next few days, at which time, the Nigerian masses or the said owners of Nigeria will get rid of GEJ and his administration.

What an incompetent government!! How can they time the removal of fuel subsidy in this manner? The whole action defies logic.  

It is obvious that fuel subsidy benefits the rich and not the poor.  Imagine that between January and November of 2011, the foreign exchange (forex) sold to oil marketers was $8 billion and within the same period $8.2 billion was paid to the marketers as subsidy. The revenue from the oil sector within the period was just $200,000 higher!!!  The subsidy had to go, but the timing is dumb.

I will be proceeding to Qatar or the USA in the next few days - hopefully, I will return to a better Nigeria in a couple of weeks.  

Gbawe:
Good. It would mean that Okonjo Iweala's deceptive talk that "Government is still consulting" was to lull Nigerians into a false sense of security since they still went ahead with the 1st January 2012 target previously scheduled. Let us now see the real effect on Nigeria. Happy new year to you too.

http://saharareporters.com/news-page/nigeria-announces-removal-petrol-subsidy

Long term impact of fuel subsidy removal should be positive especially since diesel is not subsidized. Expect cost of taxi, bus rides, and okada rides to rise by 100%.

We need to watch Okonjo-Iweala very closely, she have been proven to be a liar and she appears to be implementing policies directed by the IMF. I don't trust that organization (IMF) because I do not believe that their interests are particularly in sync with those of Nigerian citizens.

My own reason for supporting the removal of fuel subsidy is that we are essentially broke, the subsidy was unsustainable, and we simply don't have the funding sources to implement the 2012 budget without the removal of the subsidy. Lets hope some of the savings from subsidy removal are directed towards the support of the Naira so that further devaluation of our currency becomes unnecessary.

FACE:
Was the election cancellation a Nigerian, sectional or personal problem ? Who were those that needed to lead protests ? Who do you feel were "affected the most"; Nigerians, sections of Nigeria, politicians, Jamaicans ?

What is your reason for feeling that it was any particular person's responsibility to lead a protest against a decision affecting all Nigerians ?

Yoruba people talk say, "abo oro ni amba omo oluwabi soro, toba de inu e, a di odindi" (na half and half we dey take talk to smart person, when di talk enter him head e go become whole).

You know the obvious answers to your questions, why are you trying to set a trap for me? I do believe that Jamaicans from the UK should have led the protests.

BTW, Happy New Year to you in advance. You are one of the most level headed posters in this section, I appreciate the fact that you have significantly toned down your misinformation campaign of old.

Relax101:
I agree but your Governors and leaders in the north should be lined up and shot!
Tell me a single Governor from the north that has done a tangible thing with all the money and allocation given to them.
You are a real dunce if you see the trouble in other ethnic group but fails to see yours. Ediot!

Foolish boy. Your pathological tribalism has blinded you from seeing that we have a common enemy.

@Beaf, this is not a trick question but please answer honestly: Are you outraged at the President's inability to promptly deal with BH? A simple yes or no would suffice.

I will leave your thread for you now, dalu o.

Beaf:
You boldly predicted that there would be pogroms (your exact words). There was another guy that also promised suicide bombings.

ngwannu, pogroms were predicted and pogroms are with us. Please encourage your uncle to put his CiC's hat on, instead of that doggone cowboy hat, and defend the country.

Beaf:
Ndu chucks says it is because the core-Northern elite lost the elections, I am waiting for him to defend that and don't have the time for for foolish interjections.

Stop acting and writing  like a dummy, olodo! Where in any of my post did I mention core-Northern elite? You are bright enough to understand that GEJ's actions and election dishonesty are part of the reasons why BH is taking the type of action originated by the MEND terrorists. BH was further emboldened when they saw that we have a impotent President who did not have the guts to resist BH and defend Nigerians against their violence. GEJ is fully responsible for the escalations we see today.  

BTW, your desperation at nursing popularity among your Ole ntele Alfas (or dumb NL admirers and followers) has now made you, out of desperation, to join posts without context, to score a cheap point.  We see through it, olodo.  Please advise our commander in chief to fight the war which has already been declared against Nigeria. There is no need to wait until Aso rock or NASS is bombed. Nigerians are being killed with impunity, where is your outrage, Beaf??

koruji:
@ndu_chucks & bolded

The only consequence of rigging an election should have been a vigorous challenge at the court.

I agree with the above. This type of consequence is non existent in Nigeria as you know - the courts have been compromised and are just as corrupt as the legislative and executive branches. No Nigerian court has the guts to overturn a presidential election hence going to court is simply a waste of time.  just look at all the looters including ex governors who are walking around free in Nigeria and you'll get the point.

koruji: IBB single-handedly cancelled the fairest election in our history, but did you hear of any bombings? So I ask, what is the basis for violence in this case?

IBB is part of our problems in Nigeria and that is one of the reasons why we stoned him in Zaria a few years ago.  There should have been a massive  protest against  IBB's actions but the cowardice of those who needed to lead the protests prevented such acts.  We would have been better off if those affected the most had expressed their disgust towards IBB in a bold manner.

kuroji: A virtually dead man ruled this nation for almost 3 years, with his minions & wife taking over rulership, instead of the constitutionally designated official of the Federation, GEJ. Did you hear of any bombings? Or was that not grave enough for you?

kuroji, you are not making much sense. What more do you need before you get off your hinny and start demanding more from your leaders?  You've itemized enough reasons for Arab-type protest and resistance, but the only vigorous protest you people can muster is from the safety of the internet.  What else must be done to you to trigger the appropriate response? They loot your treasury, kill you with impunity, sell off your country's assets to their cronies, use your money to fly abroad when they are sick while you and your families die because you don't have enough money to pay for hospital admissions e.t.c. I ask you, are these actions by your leaders grave enough for you?

Beaf:
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Are you a member of boko haram?

I would have expected you to tell us exactly why none of your elite is willing to condemn boko haram.

Your post pathetic in its logic and cold in its support for boko haram as a political tool. Everyone can see your hidden argument and where your heart lies.


Any of your dreams that deviates from democratic principles will be met with requisite force. You core-Northern elite aught to understand that intellect will always trump violence.

If Buhari, who condemned the dastardly acts of Boko Haram  is not considered an elite, then you need to provide us with your definition of the word.  I warned you of the obvious repercussions of rigging the presidential elections and you accused me of threatening GEJ. I hope you now see that my observations back then were spot on - you can continue to wallow in denial if you wish.

You should be ashamed of yourself for writing the bolded. Why are you prescribing brute force for the Boko Haram problem when your fellow terrorists, MEND, who also murdered innocent Nigerians in the name of freedom fighting, got amnesty and negotiations? olodo

BTW Negro_Ntns, is a sensible poster unlike you, whose objectivity has been compromised by blind loyalty. You don't need to label him as a terrorists because his opinion differs from yours.