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mikeansy:If the above is the implied solution in Soyinka's beautiful article, then it falls short of our current needs and it is woefully inadequate. The solutions you itemized may have been enough if implemented back in 2007, but they are not sufficient to deal with the problem at hand. May I remind you that BH has declared a war and fighting that war. Nigerians, Christians, Moslems, Ifa practitioners, and others, are being killed in a guerilla war?? The solutions would have been deemed reasonable if they contained suggestions for GEJ on how to fight and win this war. Anything short of full fledged military operations including covert and overt actions will not defeat BH. GEJ needs to grow some balls, purge the government of traitors and BH sympathizers (afterall he appointed most of them politically), close the borders, declare state of emergency in appropriate states, and put the squeeze on these terrorists. I maintain that all Soyinka has done is written a beautiful article which unfortunately is devoid of real solutions to our current problems with BH. [quote author=Negro_Ntns link=topic=853093.msg10032807#msg10032807 date=1327360301]Nice article! On the issue of resource control and particularly oil, the North is self sufficient! The only pain they will have is coastal access. From what I have heard, they are not carving a sharia ruled Northern Nigeria. . . .far from it, they are carving a islamic kingdom which will amalgamate Northern Nigeria, Niger, Chad, and so on. Chad has abundant oil. It will be like merging Western Nigeria with Republic of Benin and Togo to return back to the pre-colonial days. They speak one language, have same culture and customs, worship same God. . . why not have same destiny? They will go gaga with their new found freedom, and in a case where the Northern voice has defaulted to that of boko, the Northen Nigeria piece of that kingdom will be controlled and manipulated by boko interests. I see boko serving a role similar to taliban sharia police and flogging anyone who appears in public without a beard. _chucks, start growing some ! [/quote]To the bolded I say If I didn't know that you have a weird and wild imagination, I would have concluded that you attended some BH executive meetings. BH is a terrorist group which was not dealt with promptly by GEJ and which can be defeated in less than a month if our C in C can muster the courage to do so. BTW, I accept your show of submission which you displayed by truncating my NL userid. Keep it up, I accept the honour. |
This piece by Wole Soyinka is nothing but a bunch of crappy common knowledge. The man has added nothing tangible to the problem at hand. In an expression of intellectual cowardice, he avoided mentioning any viable solution to the problem at hand, rendering his article a bunch of crap. He concluded, "Only one choice remains: to ride, or else reap, the whirlwind." What da heck does that mean? ride ko, sour like a bird ni. Jakumo:The answers to the questions you posed are why Nigeria can never split peacefully. Note that no one is willing to go to war for separation because the human costs will be unbearable. The government will kill 5,000 of you people rather than go to war and risk losing millions. |
Onlytruth:Eze Nairaland Gburu Gburu, ogo m, why do you think you know my motives for starting this thread? You should be smart enough, by now, to understand that bigotry and hatred will eat you up and render you delusional. I do agree with you that we need a peaceful nation but we cannot have peace until GEJ decides to defend the country from a very real war. Hundreds of Nigerians have been killed in full view of the world in tens of millitary offensives by BH, yet our C in C is yet to mount a major offensive to render these enemies impotent. In the meantime, traitors like you are running around secretly jubiliating at the turn of events because you believe they will eventually lead to your biafra nation, ko? If you want peace for Nigeria, start by putting your Igbo brothers in check and reduce the onslaught of hateful threads. Start with the character called Nchara, if you have the power. olodo |
SMH Following the unabated spate of bombings in the country, the Senior Pastor of Living Faith Church Worldwide (a.k.a Winners Chapel), Bishop David Oyedepo, has released God's judgement missiles into the camp of Boko Haram.http://tribune.com.ng/index.php/news/34756-oyedepo-sends-gods-judgment-missiles-into-boko-haram-camp |
Nchara:Many bigots refuse to see that BH is waging a vicious war against Nigeria. They kill Christians and Moslems alike, we need to put our differences aside and fight this war together. GEJ, our C in C, needs to go on the offensive. |
Just recently, Mallam Kabiru Sokoto, the most prominent member of the Boko Haram group presently involved in distabilising plot against the country through sectarian killings, escaped without a single shot being fired. Now Tanko Buzu, who bombed Hausa Quarters has taken valuable intelligence information with him as he escaped by dying. Has Boko Haram infiltrated hospitals as well? SMH Suspected Boko Haram member, who bombed the Main Mosque, Hausa Quarters in Sapele, Sapele Local Government Area of Delta State on December 10, 2011, Tanko Buzu, is dead. |
Dede1:The bolded is wishful thinking on your part. What moves have been made by the SE leaders to indicate that the Ibibio, Annang, Ogoni, Ijo (Okirika and Kalabari) and certain people in Benue State (Idoma) will buy into this arrangement? I for one do not see any political activity by the SE leaders which could lead to the alliance. The current crop of leaders in the SE seem to be incapable of actually leading. I miss Ikemba. Dede1: I have known for sure that those stiffs(Itsekiri,EDO,Ilaje and co) have no space in Biafra. Please check your history and you would realize the characters listed in the post formed the major bulk of 3MCDO.Your are not being very kind to our Edo brothers. BTW, who are the members of 3MCDO in the list? I didn't see the name of the Black Scorpion therein. ![]() |
Onlytruth:If GEJ fights and defeats BH, significantly reduces corruption, fully deregulate the power sector and pass the PIB, I will vote for him in 2015. I'm for ONE Nigeria, unlike you biafran. Eze, abeg help me beat this bashr8 to his senses. the boy is too uptight, abeg train am small. |
bashr8:I'm a Nigerian and if you were bright you'd pay attention to who is meeting who as well. olodo Eze alaigbo, why are you worried about me na? ![]() |
Onlytruth:Please post the attendees of the said Edwin Clarke meeting and compare them to the attendees of the meeting I talked about. You leaders remain fools and political novices. |
Onlytruth:Oh boy, Eminent leaders from the SS just issued a joint communiqué with SW leaders entitled: “Strengthening the Unity of Nigeria issued at the end of the jaw-jaw and jointly signed by the leader of the South-South delegates, Chief Edwin Clark, and his counterpart form the South-West, Bishop Bolanle Gbonigi. There was no SS "Igbo" present at the meeting. Shouldn't you all be working with the SS folks who are the real owners of onshore oil? They will give you nothing without a fight and given what's happening, the SW will fight on their side. |
[quote author=Kilode?! link=topic=848995.msg10019223#msg10019223 date=1327193740]"Alhaji ti o re mecca" Ndu_chuks is trolling ![]() . . No point casting pearls before swines.[/quote]Olopa, ewo n'tepe? ![]() @okunoba, I pity you. pele o. |
It appears that the SS leaders are gearing up for an alliance with the SW, in case their son is involved in an accident and yawa come gas. Lets see if a similar communiqué is issued jointly by SS and SE leaders - I wouldn't hold my breadth. ![]() Eminent leaders of thought from the South-South and South-West regions of the country have tasked President Goodluck Jonathan to weed out people of dubious loyalty from his government and the security forces in the nation.Pictured below are Yeye Oodua, Chief (Mrs) H.I.D. Awolowo (2nd right); Oba Okunade Sijuade, the Ooni of Ife (2nd left); Olorogun Senator Felix Ibru (right) and Chief Edwin Clark during the South-South/Yoruba leaders’ meeting held at the Awolowo residence, Ikenne Remo, Ogun State yesterday. Why did they exclude Tinubu? ![]()
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[quote author=Negro_Ntns link=topic=848995.msg10017093#msg10017093 date=1327171104]I have defended the position of Obatala before and I will do it again if need be. . . not timid in my beliefs! I am saying these people practiced Ifa. Have you read anythink on Kaballah yet? The image and popularity of Ifa has suffered greatly because a new world order overtook it in which literature and written records are given precedence of authenticity above the virtue of oral tradition. If Ifa had been a written literature like the other manuscripts, we should not even be here talking about this issue. It would be taught in schools and colleges and would be the foremost African theosophical tablet, rivaling the Bible, Quran, Torah.[/quote]You stated earlier that the "cosmos has sounds and rythyms. The Yoruba tongue flow in synch with our cosmic awareness. Therefore, I cannot translate sounds of a rythymic wave into the flat, toneless, and vowel limited English language in a way that you can grasp the full sacredness of the meaning. Our forefathers also faced this limitation and explains why in their wisdom they left it unwritten and preferred instead to transfer and teachthe knowledge in its original tonal soundwave and poetry." Pray tell, in what language did the Ifa practitioners of Exodus transfer and teach the said Ifa knowledge to the Yoruba people of old? It is not enough to try to pass wishes as history. Katsumoto:What da heck is the matter with you and why are you attempting to beat up or bully people around? The people who are killing innocent Nigerians in the name of religion are not my brothers nor do they share the same belief system as mine. These people are waging a war against Nigeria, period. As to the bit that I cannot understand the Ifa belief system because it requires some advanced form of thought, I refer you to the video I posted earlier. The practitioners in that video cannot, in all honesty, be deemed extremely intelligent and deep thinkers. The same applies to all the babalawos you'll find deep in the woods of Ijebu Igbo and other areas. What do you know about Ifa anyway? You are not even a practioner of the religion. |
okunoba:This emotional outburst of yours is unfortunate and is typically exhibited by folks in denia,l when the facts are stirring right at them. Your wahala with Islam and/or sharia is just that, yours alone. wettin concern me with dat one? If you can shed some light on how and why Ifa will heal the world, please lets hear it. I'm all ears, please educate me. I will not however let you get away with unsubstantiated 'facts' while you go into your effeminate emotional outbursts. olodo |
[quote author=Negro_Ntns link=topic=848995.msg10016816#msg10016816 date=1327168571]When you look at Ifa, its literature and its rituals. . . it parallels in style and form the other books. The priest garments in Ifa and even Ogboni are exact mirror of the specifications in the chapter of Exodus in the Bible. I have seen Yoruba artificats depicting sacred arts and in which you can clearly see a touch of Old testament. . . .with rituals, offerings, worship and including the staff of authority held by the priest.[/quote]This weak attempt to link the Yorubas to "old testament people" of the bible is weak at best. Many Yorubas will find it very objectionable particularly since it conflicts with their belief that Ọbatala, the great yoruba divinity, descended from heaven. Please clarify your statement if I misinterpreted what you said. Are the Yorubas descendants of the people you referenced in Exodus? If so, are you also saying that they practiced Ifa? |
[quote author=Negro_Ntns link=topic=848995.msg10016332#msg10016332 date=1327164701]_Chucks, Ifa corpus is what we call "manuscript of nature". What is that? Mankind is created into two separate but inter-dependent abodes - the conscious and the unconscious. The two together converge to complete our divinity. Innately, our faculties of physical and mental attributes are in a chase or a race against spatial and finite dimensions - distance, time, space and so on. But our spirit is seeking a reunion with its primordial source and is reluctant often times to be led along in the chase in material space. The struggle between the two results in an inner conflict. The conflicts build up with age and produces imbalance in the divine self - the stage where the two are divergent. The wider the gap the greater the imbalance and the less health the individual has. To narrow the gap . . . to minimize the conflict, the inner struggle and discontent. . and restore balance and health. . . .we need a manuscript/ Ifa is that manuscript! In its Odus, there are instructions, guidance, teachings, revelations on the essence of polarity, duality and triplicity. From one, you get two. . .from two, you get three. An independent, self-subsisting and self-sustaining self soon realizes that he is indeed not capable of self-regeneration. So he goes into finding a second dimension. . . a partner with whom to accomplish this purpose. He then realizes that the partnership demands a new set of discipline than he was familiar with - sacrifice, patience, strengths and weakness, trust and so on. So he learns patience, sacrifice, learns to trust. Then his new understanding and wisdom begin to yield fruit. . . there is growth, there is joy, there is healing, there is happiness, there is propserity. The one is not good by itself, in partnership is a great goodness. . .but even more, the partnership is a regeneration of the two into abundance and prosperity. This is Ifa wisdom. But compare that with the Adam and Eve event in Genesis. Adam by himself was helpless and so he was given a mate and the two interacting with one another encored in a fruitful transformation. This lesson is applicable in business, its applicable in matrimony, its applivable at the job. It teaches the wisdom of balance. . . healing, and we find it in Ifa manuscript. The world needs it to heal![/quote]Great concept but I'm afraid however that it sounds like the core of Confucianism. The Ifa worshipers (who you people call Ara Oko) wearing asho oke and danshiki in the video I posted do not seem capable of grasping the concepts you've provided above. I challenge you to transalate your first two sentences above to Yoruba: An independent, self-subsisting and self-sustaining self soon realizes that he is indeed not capable of self-regeneration. So he goes into finding a second dimension. . . a partner with whom to accomplish this purpose.If you can't effectively do the transalation, how do you want us to believe that the original uncivilized Ifa practitioners discussed these concepts. You intellectuals of today will not be allowed to pretty up a religion that is probably barbarian by nature. |
@Kilode!, your words: "I'll rather tell you why Ifa will heal the world. " I am still waiting for you to do this. Why the sudden passing of the buck and directing me to read various books? If you can't deliver of 'promises' stop making them, abi Ifa has told you to chicken out ni? |
[quote author=Kilode?! link=topic=848995.msg10014522#msg10014522 date=1327150819]I'm not sure why an Idol, icon, a representation of an idea or ideal is abominable. I'll rather tell you why Ifa will heal the world. It does not consider your religion abominable, it will rather edify and teach you than label you hell bound. It has little time for violent proselytizing It cares more about the ideals of Orunmila, probably more than it cares about Orunmila himself. Want more?[/quote]I'm all ears. Please tell me what Ifa is and how it will heal the world. I've always though it was the religion of uncivilized folks who are ignorant about modern day affairs. I'm ready to be educated (I assume you are not ignorant about this Ida), so please proceed. P.S. Do not make any assumptions about my religion if I am yet to tell you what that religion is - my religion should irrelevant in the education you are going to provide. The video below shows uncivilized folks practicing this Ifa. I await the day when you practitioners will use your babalawo to topple governments and remove corrupt officials. http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=k9lGVF6jYN4 [flash=300,300]http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=k9lGVF6jYN4[/flash] |
To be honest, the security situation continues to get worse and I have run out of scenarios where the current regime would remain in place for another year. |
How we see am? The idea is juicy but its full implementation for maximum impact would require that the ineffective Commander in Chief of the Armed forces be replaced by a foreigner as well. You should have called for a holistic solution,olodo. |
However, the Bayelsa State Governor, Timipre Sylva, indicated that the Yenagoa blasts were linked to upcoming governorship elections and not Islamist sect, Boko Haram which claimed responsibility for the Kano attacks.If the governor confirms that the blasts were linked to upcoming elections, perpetrators must have been identified. The Governor should produce the perpetrators for arrest and prosecution immediately - abi he himself is the one responsible for the act? |
Just in case this guy needs help and is not a joker, could the moderators open up a line of communications with him via PM? Is it possible to give him/her temporary access to PM so that he can reply to moderators' messages? @OP, think about your loved ones who will be left with a broken heart, why do you have to hurt them by setting yourself ablaze? Don't be a coward in the end by going through with this - you sound like a tough guy and not a coward. Do the right thing, find other ways to express your anger and frustration. |
naijababe:omoge, e mi ko ni agara lati ba oborin ja lori internet jor. fimi si'le o, afi ti o ba fe di iyawo mi. |
@naijababe, I asked for enlightenment - please focus on that if you are able to. Thanks. |
[quote author=Kilode?! link=topic=848995.msg10007588#msg10007588 date=1327064436]Ifa (the concept, not necessarily the religion) will heal the world.[/quote]Please enlighten me as to the reason why Ifa religion/concept is not another abominable idol worship. La ilaha illa Allah! We are all aware of where kafiris will end up. |
An unintended consequence of the subsidy removal of Jan. 1, is the uniting of Nigerians against incompetence, corruption & fraud. I will give the protesting masses credit for this. People like Beaf have a right to give the credit to GEJ and his handlers. Either way, it is time for all of us to stand firm against these thieves. To be honest with you, the reasons why OBJ did not have a Minister of Petroleum and decided to personally run the ministry is clearer than ever. I believe the time has come for OBJ and others to account for their sins against Nigeria. |
I thought SE did not participate in the subsidy protests. Can't these organizers do anything right? Nonsense. The Ikemba Nnewi, Dim Chukwuemeka Odumegwu Ojukwu, who died in a London hospital late last year, will be buried on March 1, 2012. His burial was earlier scheduled for February 3. |
Beaf: The removal of the fuel subsidy is gonna kill many big beasts.An unintended consequence of the subsidy removal of Jan. 1, is the uniting of Nigerians against incompetence, corruption & fraud. I will give the protesting masses credit for this. I suppose you, Beaf, have a right to give the credit to GEJ and his handlers. Either way, it is time for all of us to stand firm against these thieves. To be honest with you, the reasons why OBJ did not have a Minister of Petroleum and decided to personally run the ministry is clearer than ever. I believe the time has come for OBJ and others to account for their sins against Nigeria. |
Did the NLC and Civil Society groups got all the items listed below? How come no one is talking about the outcome of these demands The protests gathered momentum, and paralysed the economy not just because of the rise in petrol prices but because of a much broader impatience with government corruption and waste. Below are just a few of the demands made in a draft charter written at the weekend by Civil Society groups, including Occupy Nigeria which has been at the forefront of protests, demanding more comprehensive reform: |
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