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Rerin:
Thanks everyone for your contributions. Please note that they are two types. The families that sold the land are entitled and still collect money for roofing, foundation, and decking from buyers. These 3 miscreants collect and harass the artisans which they pay them as well for their personal pockets. They went to beat the artisans unjustly requesting for money already paid by the buyer to the omo onile family. The family cautioned these miscreants but never listened at that point. Infact some of the families stated the law should take its cause since they are nuisances. These miscreants called the Bricklayers back after a week to get their working tools and collected money from them. It's so upsetting for the maltreatment and seeking for best way to handle this case. N.B these guys still parade the site everyday till now thinking they are above the law.
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Wisdom . Everything is not fight fight . Important also to settle the right set controlling the area

I do both , will show strength by inviting the forces to send a strong message at the very beginning , and will also settle them , most times during settlement the force will be there to witness , they come back for the occasional 20k/30k blessing money from the engineer at milestones . They even fight off rival groups after that . The koko Na make God bless person to overlook some of this Shina . It is what it is

Omonile is frustrating me in my site. Those who used to be there are no longer there and they new guys are frustrating land owners erecting structure in my area.

They are asking to see my papers but if I show them I know they will still find a fault. Then they will begin to quote millions for me.


I'm so tired and Confused

You ought to have added entrepreneurship to that list.


The amount you can earn range from #0 to billions of naira.

taiwo92:
The scholarship says SGS 5000 basic with option to increase to 6k if I pass am exam.
So you mean to bring my wife will be difficult?

Are u sure? I don't think SGS pays that much as stipend and full scholarship covering turion, accommodation and medical insurance

Na wa!!

1 tonnes of 12mm rod is #415,000 today.



Naija which way??

Wow

King8080:
Hello guys how legit is this China admission people, have any one worked with them

I can help you get admission to any Chinese University of choice. But I only do paid consultation.

sotomayor:
Occultic crew.. What the Bleep is 44.. People that sold their soul to d devil on a thumb print

Lol. Are you the devil that received payments for their soul?

spyder880:
Upon inquiry, I was taken to a door importer in Onitsha, and these are the doors he has for sale. Doors made with treated wood. Costs about 35k with frames.

I was about to order 40 sets when he told me the doors are temporarily out of stock.

The design doesn't looks current in my eyes

Person2person:
You will need sub frame installed as shown in the picture 1 if you are to use hdf flush door. but if you are to use the wooden frame as shown in pic 2, you won't need sub-frame as the wooden frame is firm enough to withstand the weight of the door.

Door with locks and installation 65k

08063073913 for more enquirues

I will keep in touch. Are u based in Lagos?

Person2person:
55,000 with frame and Architraves.

No lock, No installation, No sub-frame

Call or wasap 08063073913

How much inclusive of the locks and installation?

What do u mean by sub frame?

Person2person:
9 inches frame 10,000
6 inches frame 8,000

Mahogany

Do u have this kind of doors with their frame and how much?

gabbytabby:
The only one that might concern them is if you put sand/granite etc on the road in which case they need to give your 7 days to remove it or might need to settle small money.

The first time they gave me 60k so I spoke to my surveyor and she laughed at the jokers said just remove it or between 2-5k if I do not have where to put it.

Lol. They came and said I am to pay 120k. I was just laughing at them. I just needed to confirm that building construction has no business with them

gabbytabby:
LG have nothing to do with building say this to them but give them 2-5k as they will set building control on you if you do not give them anything.

If I am not in the mood or different set keep coming I just say my lawyer says to take their photo and they leave very quickly.

All of them ie omonile, LG and building Control know each other.

Thank you

UC92:
The Local Government physical planning authority is saddled with the responsibility of development control in rural areas. Please get your local government development permit. Thank you.

But someone told me that nothing concerns LGA with construction. That only the ministry of planning and development do

folmus:
What state is this?

Lagos

Please I need you all clarification on something.

Some guys keep coming to my construction site telling me to settle them. They said they are from the LGA. Even threatening to seal my site if I don't comply with them.

Please what's the the business of LGA with my construction?

Those guys has been pestering me

n3xt:
Smiles.

You really need to go back and understand why I wrote what I wrote

It’s just a sarcastic remark. I know I am fantastically wrong.

Right here we were told Chinese build shitty structures.

I taught as much. U looked too experienced to have to typed such.

As for your last statement, I think you were told that to de-marketise them. They world stigmatized them alot that even one of the reason they refused to open up their borders since the lockdown period.

Greenarrow01:
it is funny how we even think that a country that constructed the oldest wall in the world, a country that has been able to cater for the housing needs of its population of over 1.3 billion people, a country with the highest number of skyscrapers in the entire world will be erecting pre fabricated building here and there without considering so many factors. Very funny. Here in 9ja self, our local masons consider direction of wind in setting up certain things

The only thing why China things are cheaper is cos they are the master of machinery. They are very very advanced technologically.
Secondly, they don't pay much to their staff and lastly the most important one
they don't kill themselves with many laws and policies like the US.

You know nothing about the Chinese chairman. China has the highest investment in R & D in the whole world. You can go and find out.

If u want quality product u can get it in China likewise is you want a product of lesser quality. I don't think u have been to China. If u had been to China or have much knowledge about them, u will erase this ur flawed comment.

n3xt:
Chinese don’t have engineers. They only have shitty builders.

I’ll be following up this 28 hours build to know when it’ll collapse since it wasn’t build to Europe, US and naija building code.

I was hoping to see carpenters, iron benders, concreters working on the 10 storey building like we always do here

Why should China be assembly a house like cars? They still have a lot to learn.

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In Nigeria, there’s always a problem for every solution.

Good morning!

I wonder the audacity u use to type this flawed comment. You are so wrong. You really need to be englitened. Incase you don't know, the Chinese have the highest investment on research and development in the whole world. I have lived with the Chinese so I know what I'm saying.

In engineering there's what is called minimum and maximum stresses which a material can be subjected to before it can fail. Those materials used to install that building have been subjected to those stresses. I wonder why u stigmatized them. That's perhaps because u are short knowledged

HossanaHeights:
You don't pass judgement on another man's building project simply because you built a building of that type.

There are other considerations that could make the costs differ.

Firstly, the size of the decking.
Secondly, the structural design of the decking as advised by the structural engineer. Hence, more 16mm rods could have been deployed more than yours.
Thirdly, the concrete mix ratio.
Fourthly, labour charges in the area of your build.

Please when did you do your own decking? What's the size and can we see the structural design only?

When we see the information above, we can then appreciate your perspective.

N4M is a very fair price for Spyder880's decking based on today's material and labour rates.

My post wasn't to antagonize his post. I come in peace boss.

I am only of the opinion that he could have spent way less. That's all.

I'm sorry if my comments annoyed anyone.

Do have a blessed day ahead

diordaves:
We've been here before in the past. I'm not speaking for Spyder880. He is more than capable of doing that. I'm just speaking from a position of experience to add to the body of knowledge. For the record; I'm not a contractor. I think you need lived experience coming from a non-contractor.

First off, 80 bags of cement? Did you really mean this or is it a typo?

Decking (according to code and best practice); you will first of all beam (all-round beaming, so to speak). For a 9" block beaming, that your 80 bags of cement don go. With the beaming process alone, you don dey match two million. We never talk of the decking proper.

12mm rod? You may be guessing from a position of lack of full knowledge of the process. The decking process is a combination of 12mm and 16mm according to the structural drawing. I've experienced structural drawings wey 16mm na half of the rods used.

40 tons of gravel. What's that? Just beaming alone fit chop 40 tons sef. In Delta, we do "Auchi load" plus 9-11 for decking. For gravel, you don dey match half a million with the size I'm seeing in the photos.

You can't spend 1 million for cement. Really? As I look the picture Spyder post with the cost, no how, no how wey that decking no go chop reach 230 bags of cement with best practice mix ratio. That decking go chop more than 80 bags of cement my guy. You buy cement for 3,700 na. So even if we say the decking chop 200 bags: 200 X 3,700 = N740,000. Some people buy cement for 4,000. Don't forget that.

In most parts of Delta, na women corporative dey do decking as in the pouring process. The women dey charge over 200k sef. Even if na men, it is worse. Before you go come pay tapers and mixers.

To deck no be here o. I relate with that 4 million cost with current prices. Decking na sheyge!

Oga I have done a similar decking recently. E no reach that Budget. My site is in Lagos. Stop giving builders high blood pressure.

I'm not a sadist when I pointed the outrageous prices. I'm also a site owner (maybe Kobo Kobo site owner lol). I monitor my materials and their uses and I can categorically tell u that 2.5M to 3M will do that project.


Unless he added charges from construction company.

sonnie10:
I intentionally left those labor charges blank because they are subjective.
Now could you point to one item on that list that won’t be needed for decking of a two 3 bedroom flat , no matter the sizes of the rooms?
Is it the builder that will provide materials at his own expense for you?

So for the iron alone. U used more than 4 tonnes of 12 mm which I find too much for a 2 units of 3 bedrooms no matter the sizes of the room. 2.5 tonnes of 12mm rods should do it.

U can't spend up to 1M on cement. I bought 20 bags of cement last week for 74k. And this project shouldn't eat more than 80bags.

Please let's stop overquoting.

I have noticed that contractor always increase their prices alot.

Gravel of 40 tonnes is okay for this project. While sand of 60 tonnes is okay.

sonnie10:
Budget 450 12mm @ 4300
200 bags of cement at 3600
60 tons of granite at 550k
300 1x12 Planck at 1900 each
100 piece of 8 mm
10 trip Bedford sharp sand at 15k each
Electric pipe 300k
Bamboo 300 pieces
Binding wire 4 bundle
Nails 3 bags
Other sizes of woods total 100k
Iron bender labor
Canperer labor
Electrons labour
Plumber labour
Water labour
16mm for stair
Mixer and brick layer and job men labour
Supervision
4M na managing in this current Nigeria.

4M for decking alone. This is a rip off. I wonder why u guys quote this outrageous prices. This decking can't eat more than 2.5M if spending is done judiciously. That's 2.5M is if the length and width of the house is big.

Na only u dey build house. Haba

Yansham:
Good morning professionals.

I want to know if 28m can build a solid 3bedroom duplex in Abijo.

My reason for asking is because a real estate coy is offering that and I am sceptical if they can do a good job for that amount.

If it's a dry land. 28M will do just fine.

1 tonne of 16mm rod in Lagos is #395k while per one is #7600.


This country is getting worse day by day

jabolo:
One last one - have a look at the proposed building 3D if you are comfortable with the scale asymmetry between the larger ground floor and the first floor. To your eyes and yours alone, if it's not aesthetically disturbing, go for it.

Thanks boss. I plan making the height of the ground floor and first floor equal

uncleteeh:
No structural implications to the best of my knowledge.
It only costs more.
The living room of this building has a total height of 3.6 before the slab.

Thanks

UC92:
Some individuals actually love big volumes, once you enter into a space with big volumes it gives a calming effect. However the implication you will have with it is in your staircase, if you do not have a stair hall that can accommodate the required number of risers(150mm), you may end up having higher risers like 175mm which isn't good at all.
So check your stair hall before you decide on adding more volume.

Thanks

bixton:
If you're asking of structural implications.....then there is none whatsoever.

Thanks boss

coldcandy:
What do you intend to do with all that space above the head?
Note that that is actually 5 coaches whn u add the beam thickness.

I mean 4 coaches after beam thickness. I like height

Please I'm thinking of making my building 4 coaches after lintel level before doing the decking.

Please engineers what is the implications of this. I will like my building to have high height for the downstairs