₦airaland Forum

Keep dreaming for El Dorado. It's not gonna happen as long as Nigerians operate in their present mindset. I don't care if the country is replicated in gazillion nations by family names.

So then you admit its not gonna be resolved ether way, whether we stay together or separate. Staying together results in INTER tribal aggressions. Go separet ways results in INTRA tribal aggressions. I think I'd take the second option. I stand a better chance resolving problems with people with whom I share 50% philosophical aspirations than I do with people with whom my aspirations are 10% or worse.

err this was as disjointed as possible and didnt convey any coherent train of thought. Was the rescue or Chrysler and GM bad and why? Was government's bankruptcy program for GM bad or not? Would you have prefered GM too totally collapse leading to loss of thousands of jobs and deepening the recession?

To a rookie like yourself in political discourse, of course it would be! Your mind is yet to mature and develop the shrewdness needed to capture the panoramic view of the political landscape. You are bogged down in the miniscule and granular process. Cant see past the bridge of your nose. Wake up and look at the systemic failure.

If the rescue of GM was so bad where are the critics condemning it now?

Criticism is not the measure of success or failure of a public policy. Sit down boy. . .let me coach you on how to decipher politicaltalk in Washington.
You are waiting on critics. . .let me know when they arrive.

Actually the cash for clunkers program was a huge success. Generated $3bn to auto dealers.

Everytime I give benefit of the doubt and talk to you like a highminded politician you always dissapoint. Generated $3bn to auto dealers. Oh wow!!! Was that the objective of the program? Has the program accomplished what it was set out to do? . . .or by any stretch of imagination, does it even appear it could?

ah, mo ti jegba. . .tpia thought I was a heathen.

Dont mind TOH, I do it all. . .I belong in the faith of Abraham - Islam Chrsianity and Judaism. I read Quran, Bible and Torah.

Im getting ready to take TOH with me to Mecca. When she gets back we will post her new pix in her burqa.

The first one is that doggone rescue of Chrysler and GM. It created a gap and problem in solvency for the dealerships and to rescue them without appearing to be doing so, in which the populace will be pissed, they devised the second waste, cash for clunkers.

Honestly, David tell me. . .would you as a President sign off on this cash for clunker deal?

You know what would be coming next right? I keep pressing it home, expect Harley Davidson to ask for financial assistance. If they don't Ford will, or it could be both.

How do you expect to achieve success after divorce when the mindset of a typical Nigerian is 'us against them'?. Assuming you have Republic of Oduduwa today, don't you know there will be replications according to tribes within the same ethnic group?. Ife will not agree for modakeke to rule over them; Ijebu will swear for Egba; Akoko will swear for whomever they have Eshan, same in Biafra and Arewa republic. The division continues and until we dissociate our mindset from that  ideology and accept freedom in its entirety, I am afraid we may be jumping from frying pan to fire.

Our forefathers had a formula for integrating diverse tongues under one common vision and cohesive loyalty.  Going separate ways would awaken us to our vulnerabilities and in the need to self preserve we would be forced to seek solutions in tried and effective ways of resolving political grievances.

tpia,

Lmao. . .Aloy winning the leadership would make you First Lady of Biafra.  You need to watch how you talk to your inlaws from now on.  

No2,

To be honest with you I learnt most of these things in my travels around the country. I have many blessings but I will mention one that is directly related with what you are trying to achieve here. This is not a brag, I call God to witness on what you are about to read. I cannot recommend a book for you, I did not acquire my knowledge from books.

I am from Lagos and I am blessed to have people in my family who are direct custodians of the culture and heritage in Lagos. So at a very young age we were already indoctrinated into the history of Lagos, going back before, during and after colonialism. Later and at an older age the instruction and lessons continued with the history of Yoruba Nation and its seven states. We also learnt about the wars and who the opponents were. Tucked into lessons on the opponents we learnt about their states and political structure. I was very fascinated with the Fulani war. So when I had opportunity to go to North I jumped at it and buried myself deep in their city to learn all I can. I was in Kano. I went to school with direct royal blood of the Kano Emirate. . .both Bayero and his predecessor, Sanusi. It was a large family and I became very acquainted with them and through these chanels I learnt a lot about the Fulani and Hausa history and their political ideologies. Then I went to school in Zaria and met there with other affluent chanels from Katsina, Sokoto, Bornu. So my knowledge of history was a fortunate one that occurred through direct contact with the custodians of the respective cultures and exceptionally out of any formal academic classroom but it is by far more genuine than any textbook could ever teah me. I thank God for the blessings and the fortunes. I have gone to libraries and tried to read books on the history of Lagos and had to abort the attempt because a lot is left out that is very improtant to value and ideology of the people.

This oral tradition has left me even in my adulthood to be very suspicious of second hand and third hand information source. I can make tons of money writing historical accounts today but I will not. I have a plan. Iintend to instruct and teach my own children these things and let them write it and I will proof read it for accuracy. There are accounts of Lagos alone that could be turned into a big movie project and will find international audience because of the subject matter.

Anyway, sorry, I will not recommend books but I can continue to share what I can here in limited coverage. Remember, I am bequeathing the knowledge and so it is now considered a proprietary asset.

I dont doubt it. . .but enough whining about what he inherited and more energy need to be focused on what he will be handing over in four or eight years, depending on the wishes of Almighty for a prolonged tenure.

lmao. . .no2 no get sense! Meself yab Alhajis sometime. I yab anybody. . .pastor, reverend, rabbi, babalawo. I have reverence for titles but nowadays some titular heads are worse than those in the congregation they are supposed to lead.

TOH and I have an understanding. . .although she will occassionally loose it forcing me to run for cover. . .lmao. Na the Ekiti blood dey worry her, the people get too much wahala.

African history? Wait make I finish underwear history first my brother. hahahahahaha

This is true

Thank you dear!

NN, as for trophy, that only makes sense for a gf. Not some person you picked up for the night and that's what this thread is about else why would they care if the girl leaves anything in the house

You see. . .you are the only girl in the whole wide world that understand me best. We are tuned in to one another. Now I have said it repeatedly here that I only care to keep it as a TROPHY. I never said TROPHIES. Besides. . . no one else here has the spontaneity that you bring, you are the only special and vibrant girl worth the weight.

Anyway, no2, wassup? Whatever it is will wait, Im in convo with my special girl right at the moment. She got my attention.

Speaking of underwear, TOH, dont you agree with my position on this thing being a trophy?

TOH has faith in me, she knows I got her back anytime any day and my flirting is just what it is - spicing things up for the ladies! If Im thinking of any boobs or legs its definitely those belonging to her.

If I owned the sun I will give it to her right now and leave Florida in darkness.

TOH is an Alhaja now. . .she is fasting.

Alhaja ThiefOfHearts

We are in another day and your confession last nigt expired after sunrise this morning.   Dont waste my time. . .you need address to my prayer tent?

We are in another day and your confession last nigt expired after sunrise this morning. Dont waste my time. . .you need address to my prayer tent?

lol. . .you arefunny. You should pray to Father above to forgive you your sins overnight. Kneel down let me pray for you. . .

In fact, you know what. . . no I change my mind. You need to come to confession.

Aren't you supposed to be in Church?

Dang! Look at those sexy eyes, mmmmmm, such a vibrant thang TOH roll those eyes at me one more time. Oh kills me, ouhhh, oh jigby jigby!

Lol, me look for trouble, no, it wasn't me! I am very easy going. You know how it is in NL. . .you have to spice things up for the ladies.

Well, I appreciate that and I thank you for sharing that with me. I find you very civil in our discussions and enjoy your viewpoints as well. I welcome dissents with my viewpoints on issues. I am interested in this angle because I recognize that I have blindspots and obviously you see this regime in ways that I do not. I respect the regime for whatthe two of they stood for. . .they were creative and bold and they exercised leadership in ways that many regimes before them or after did not dare explore. However, I am open to new facts and discoveries so I can clear my blindspots and renew my objectivity in the historical account so as not to appear biased inspite of factual recounts of events.

Were there any military regime in Nigeria that was not guilty of the same accusation? They all had their skeletons some far worse than others. But if we create measures for performance and evaluate individual regimes based on that measure then what I am saying is that Buhari/Idiagbon regime will be in top three.

Well, my friend, the reason I asked is simple. True, Idiagbon and Buahri regime had very tight rules and came down heavily with steelhands to steer the society aright. It was their belief that the society was very inefficient in its use of human resources. That laxity promoted corruption. To cut down on corruption, they initiated policies that will at best attempt to correct our lackadaisical attitude about our environments and the role we play in it. So they introduced community empowerement. Of course for people that lived under many generations of idleness, suddenly directing people to get engaged in civic responsibilities and using military edicts to enforce conformance would no doubt create resentment. So they were hated for forcing people to become more responsible in their localities and to expose corruption.

Corrupt civil servants, civilians and even police and military personnels were arrested to clean up the landscape. In addition, they also were the first to pass edicts making it a punishable crime by death penalty if you were caught, tried and convicted of drug trafficking.

So these people that were jailed and killed. . .they could very well be in the list of those who commited corrupion and crimes agaisnt society as defined under those SMC edicts at the time of Idiagbon.

Jakumo,

Stop that! Who are these people that Idiagbon killed unjustly? Tell me who they are.