AntiChristian:


Allah is not the Christian God that is composed of three persons. Allah is one and only God that is indivisible, needs no son or helper/partner to do anything.




Jesus was a Prophet. Islam agrees to this. But how was Prophet Jesus like Moses? Moses had wives, father, Children, had a system of governance, lead people, addressed Kings, had revealed laws from God, etc.

Moses was not like Jesus as he was not a son of God, not among your trinity persons, not 100% God + 100% human at the same time.



David did not give birth to Jesus. We may say he was his ancestor. Jesus had no earthly father.



Jesus was an adopted son of Joseph. No where was Jesus called with Joseph's name. Jesus had no earthy father.
Catholics would have worshiped Joseph too as Father of God as they do ask Mary Mother of God to pray for them sinners...




Why does God needs son? Human need son to multiply.

Being "son of God" was just a metaphor! How did God gave birth to Jesus?

Blessed are the peacemakers, for they will be called sons of God. Matt 5:9
God is above having sons for He is able to do all things!



Jesus never said this. Paul said this in the letter he wrote to the Philippians.



Where does it mention Jesus in the above? The words translated to God were different. See above in bold. Jesus is not even same as God from this verse.



No one appointed him King in Israel. He was not coronated nor crowned except in mockery. It was Jews that eventually killed him on the cross according to your Bible.




How does this make sense? God give birth? How? Two different persons which both are God, one gave birth to the other, the father is God 100%, son is God 100% and Human 100% which makes him greater than his father?



The Jews were angry because Jesus refused to speak to them in the language they understand. Why?

Mark 4:10-12
When he was alone, the Twelve and the others around him asked him about the parables. 11He told them, "The secret of the kingdom of God has been given to you. But to those on the outside everything is said in parables 12so that," 'they may be ever seeing but never perceiving, and ever hearing but never understanding; otherwise they might turn and be forgiven!'

Look at the context of the statement from John 10: 29-31
My Father who has given them to Me is greater than all. No one can snatch them out of My Father’s hand. I and the Father are one.”
Even the Jews he was preaching to started to stone him...

In John 5:30 Jesus said:
I can do nothing on my own. I judge as God tells me. Therefore, my judgment is just, because I carry out the will of the one who sent me, not my own will.

“You heard me say, ‘I am going away and I am coming back to you.’ If you loved me, you would be glad that I am going to the Father, for the Father is greater than I. John 14:28

A father can't be greater that his son and also be one with him!
So what does "I and my Father are one" really mean here?

It is the unity of purpose! God send Jesus as He sent Moses, Abraham, etc.
Jesus was a Prophet not God!

Remember Jesus had a God (Theon)
Jesus said, “Do not hold on to me, for I have not yet ascended to the Father. Go instead to my brothers and tell them, ‘I am ascending to my Father and your Father, to my God (Theon) and your God (Theon).’” John 20:17

Jesus's father was their father
Jesus's God was their God
This logically makes them sons of God too.

Sorry, I don't have time for debates. I just state the truth and move on.

Theon and Theos are different forms of the noun Theo. Just as have, had and has are different form of the verb 'to have' in English language.Consult a Greek Grammer book for more info.

As for the other thing you wrote consult the thread below for more info.

https://www.nairaland.com/6691292/lets-talk-gods

unstoppable51:
Here is a Bible Study by Prince Gabriel Okocha (FeedMeJesus.com)

Can a saved person become unsaved? Is once saved always saved biblical?

What does the Bible say about Once Saved, Forever Saved? Let's find out!

Salvation in Christ is the very central goal of the Bible. It is the end-goal of Faith, Grace, Mercy and several other subjects of the scriptures.

"And that from a child thou hast known the holy scriptures, which are able to make thee wise unto salvation through faith which is in Christ Jesus." 2Ti 3:15 KJV

"Receiving the end of your faith, even the salvation of your souls. Of which salvation the prophets have enquired and searched diligently, who prophesied of the grace that should come unto you." 1Pe 1:9-10 KJV

The believer is instructed to properly study and understand it, and be diligent in teaching it.

"Study to shew thyself approved unto God, a workman that needeth not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth." 2Ti 2:15 KJV

A proper understanding of the concept of Salvation as taught in the scriptures, will open up a well of unceasing joy in you. Your feet will be firm, not tossed about by every wind of doctrine. And like a tree planted by the riverside, you will grow and flourish in your walk with the Lord Jesus, bearing good fruits for Him.

So let's go back to answering the question we have at hand.

Is Once Saved, Always Saved Biblical?

The answer to this question largely depends on what you mean by "once saved, always saved"

This is because to some persons, the statement "once saved, always saved" is another way of saying "nothing you do as a Christian matters after salvation. The moment you are saved, you can go ahead and live as worldly as you want, you won't get punished for it. God doesn't and won't give a damn about that." This ideology is an error and certainly not what the "once saved, always saved" statement is all about.

In the real sense, "once saved, always saved" is a catchphrase that addresses the durability or eternal nature of the Salvation we received when we appropriated the sacrifice of Jesus Christ for our sin(s).

With this understanding of what the statement is truly about, let's then do justice to the question from the scriptures.

Is once saved, always saved really biblical?

In talking about the Salvation, Redemption or Eternal Life we have in Christ, the Bible repeatedly used the words "once", "everlasting", "forever", "eternal", "true" and "once and for all" to describe how it occurred and the longevity.

Pay close attention as you read through the Bible verses outlined below. Meditate on each of them briefly.

Joh 3:16 KJV For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.

Joh 10:28-29 KJV 28 And I give unto them eternal life; and they shall never perish, neither shall any man pluck them out of my hand. 29 My Father, which gave them me, is greater than all; and no man is able to pluck them out of my Father's hand.

Heb 5:9 KJV And being made perfect, he became the author of eternal salvation unto all them that obey him.

Heb 9:12 KJV Neither by the blood of goats and calves, but by his own blood he entered in once into the holy place, having obtained eternal redemption for us.

Heb 9:15 KJV And for this cause he is the mediator of the new testament, that by means of death, for the redemption of the transgressions that were under the first testament, they which are called might receive the promise of eternal inheritance.

Heb 10:10-14 KJV 10 By the which will we are sanctified through the offering of the body of Jesus Christ once for all. 11 And every priest standeth daily ministering and offering oftentimes the same sacrifices, which can never take away sins: 12 But this man, after he had offered one sacrifice for sins for ever, sat down on the right hand of God; 13 From henceforth expecting till his enemies be made his footstool. 14 For by one offering he hath perfected for ever them that are sanctified.

But can't a believer lose his Salvation and go to hell (perish) if he's not careful after he has been saved? You may ask.

In answer to that question, take a look at these verses one more time and meditate on them.

"And I give unto them eternal life; and they shall never perish, neither shall any man pluck them out of my hand. My Father, which gave them me, is greater than all; and no man is able to pluck them out of my Father's hand." John 10:28-29 KJV

The essence of Eternal Life is to keep the believer from perishing. Mind you, the believer is not the one keeping his Eternal Life from perishing. Eternal Life is actually what is keeping him from perishing. Whether he is careful how he lives his life on earth or not, that Eternal Life he has received continually keeps him from destruction.

However, a believer who foolishly lives in sin continually, will lose his rewards and will have nothing to show for his Salvation or Eternal Life in heaven.

Take note that I said he will lose his rewards in heaven, not his Salvation or Eternal Life. That is because the believer is committed with the responsibility of working for and keeping his heavenly rewards by living righteously on earth, not his Salvation or Eternal Life. That is God's part according to the scriptures.

Salvation (Eternal Life) is a gift he received on the basis of his Faith in the finished works of Christ, whereas heavenly rewards are dependent on his lifestyle while on earth here.

If he lives a godly lifestyle, a crown of glory awaits him in heaven. If he doesn't, he will not get anything reward from God in heaven though he is saved and shall spend eternity in heaven.

Eph 2:8-10 KJV 8 For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God: 9 Not of works, lest any man should boast. 10 For we are his workmanship, created in Christ Jesus unto good works, which God hath before ordained that we should walk in them.

1Co 3:13-15 KJV 13 Every man's work shall be made manifest: for the day shall declare it, because it shall be revealed by fire; and the fire shall try every man's work of what sort it is. 14 If any man's work abide which he hath built thereupon, he shall receive a reward. 15 If any man's work shall be burned, he shall suffer loss: but he himself shall be saved; yet so as by fire.

This is what the Bible teaches about Once Saved, Always Saved. It is purely biblical. Set aside any misconception you may have had about the catchphrase and see the eternal nature of Salvation as it has always been in the scriptures- open, simple and clear!

I hope this blesses you. Glory to God!

Source: https://www.feedmejesus.com/2021/08/is-once-saved-always-saved-biblical.html

Once saved forever saved is scriptural.

Jesus Christ is the Author of ETERNAL salvation.
Hebrews 5:9.

There three types of salvation mentioned in scripture.

1. The salvation of our spirit Romans10:9-10.
This occurs when you give your life to Christ and become born again. It involves the recreation of the human spirit.

2. Salvation of your soul
1 Peter1:9
This involves the renewal of our mind. It is a life long process.

3. Salvation of your body
Romans 8:23
This occurs at rapture.

When a person becomes born-again he becomes born of God. God fathered him. John 1:12.
No child of God can go to hell.

Once a person becomes born again, his spirit is recreated.
If anyman be in Christ he is a new creation(2 corinthians 5:17)

The word translated 'new' three is the Greek word kaino which means a new specie that never existed before and as such has no past.

A born again child of God is a new specie of human who has the life and nature of God.
Hell is meant for the old creation i.e. the old specie of man

Jesus said when the holy spirit comes to live in us, he will live in us forever.


John 14:16 And I will pray the Father, and he shall give you another Comforter, that he may abide with you for ever;

No body who has the holy spirit will end up in hell.

Bible say we are saved by grace without any recourse to works. Why then do people expect us to work-out our salvation


Philippians 2:12 Wherefore, my beloved, as ye have always obeyed, not as in my presence only, but now much more in my absence, work out your own salvation with fear and trembling. 2:13 For it is God which worketh in you both to will and to do of his good pleasure.

The Bible says we should work out or salvation, but quickly add that"It is God who works in us BOTH TO DO AND TO WILL HIS OWN GOOD PLEASURE.

Are you born again? If yes, you don't need to have your dreams interpreted. Only those who are not born again need dream interpretation.

If you have read your bible you will notice that only the unbelievers needed dream interpretation. People like Nebukadnezer, Pharoah etc.

If you have a dream and do not understand it simply forget about it.

All the people of God who had dreams never needed interpretation.

God is an intelligent God, when he speaks to his people he speaks to them with clarity.


Dreams come from three possible sources: God, Satan or you.

If it comes from God then its meaning will definitely be clare to you if you are a born again child of God.

If it comes from you, then it is perfectly harmless and most likely a product of your day's activity.

Ecclesiastes 5:3 For a dream cometh through the multitude of business; and a fool's voice is known by multitude of words.


If it comes from the devil and you are a born again child of God then the right thing for you to do is ignore it. Usually, the devil tries to attack people through dreams. But the Bible says:

Isaiah 54:17 No weapon that is formed against thee shall prosper; and every tongue that shall rise against thee in judgment thou shalt condemn. This is the heritage of the servants of the LORD, and their righteousness is of me, saith the LORD.

As a born again Christian you should have learned that it is faith in God's word that protects God's children. God has promised in his word to ensure that no weapon formed against us shall prosper. You job is to believe God and not the dream, and that should settle it for you. I am aware that once a person dreams a dream that is from the devil, demonic spirit hang around trying to influence the person to believe the dream rather than the word of God. If you believe the dream rather than the word of God, you open yourself to harm from Satan. But, if you believe God's word rather than the dream, you open yourself to God's protecting power because God is faithful to his promise. Just simply exercise your faith in the word and promise of God. The life of a child of God is a life of faith.

So, if you are not born again, your best protection from dreams that are from the devil is to give your life to Christ and be born again.

So, in summary, if you are born again, ignore dreams you don't understand. Reject and ignore dreams that you understand but are negetive.Accept and act on dreams that you understand and are positive.

I trust that this will help you.

Emotionalbeing:
I had a dream about two dead black birds by my bed side early this morning.. I've been emotionally drained lately and I don't know if it has anything to do with it.. Thanks in advance for your responses.

Are you born again? If yes, you don't need to have your dreams interpreted. Only those who are not born again need dream interpretation.

If you have read your bible you will notice that only the unbelievers needed dream interpretation. People like Nebukadnezer, Pharoah etc.

If you have a dream and do not understand it simply forget about it.

All the people of God who had dreams never needed interpretation.

God is an intelligent God, when he speaks to his people he speaks to them with clarity.


Dreams come from three possible sources: God, Satan or you.

If it comes from God then its meaning will definitely be clare to you if you are a born again child of God.

If it comes from you, then it is perfectly harmless and most likely a product of your day's activity.

Ecclesiastes 5:3 For a dream cometh through the multitude of business; and a fool's voice is known by multitude of words.


If it comes from the devil and you are a born again child of God then the right thing for you to do is ignore it. Usually, the devil tries to attack people through dreams. But the Bible says:

Isaiah 54:17 No weapon that is formed against thee shall prosper; and every tongue that shall rise against thee in judgment thou shalt condemn. This is the heritage of the servants of the LORD, and their righteousness is of me, saith the LORD.

As a born again Christian you should have learned that it is faith in God's word that protects God's children. God has promised in his word to ensure that no weapon formed against us shall prosper. You job is to believe God and not the dream, and that should settle it for you. I am aware that once a person dreams a dream that is from the devil, demonic spirit hang around trying to influence the person to believe the dream rather than the word of God. If you believe the dream rather than the word of God, you open yourself to harm from Satan. But, if you believe God's word rather than the dream, you open yourself to God's protecting power because God is faithful to his promise. Just simply exercise your faith in the word and promise of God. The life of a child of God is a life of faith.

So, if you are not born again, your best protection from dreams that are from the devil is to give your life to Christ and be born again.

So, in summary, if you are born again, ignore dreams you don't understand. Reject and ignore dreams that you understand but are negetive.Accept and act on dreams that you understand and are positive.

I trust that this will help you.

haekymbahd:
stop spewing trash no man has ever seen Allah yet. God is not Jesus, Jesus had been seen but not God himself. Jesus was a messenger/prohet i.e was sent by God and whoever beleive him (Jesus) then Allah will abide with such person. You can't see God (Allah).

1 John 4
12 No man has at any time [yet] seen God. But if we love one another, God abides (lives and remains) in us and His love (that love which is essentially His) is brought to completion (to its full maturity, runs its full course, is perfected) in us!

13 By this we come to know (perceive, recognize, and understand) that we abide (live and remain) in Him and He in us: because He has given (imparted) to us of His [Holy] Spirit.

14 And [besides] we ourselves have seen (have deliberately and steadfastly contemplated) and bear witness that the Father has sent the Son [as the] Savior of the world.

15 Anyone who confesses (acknowledges, owns) that Jesus is the Son of God, God abides (lives, makes His home) in him and he [abides, lives, makes his home] in God.



Allah SWT said:

"They have certainly disbelieved who say that Allah is Christ, the son of Mary. Say, Then who could prevent Allah at all if He had intended to destroy Christ, the son of Mary, or his mother or everyone on the earth? And to Allah belongs the dominion of the heavens and the earth and whatever is between them. He creates what He wills, and Allah is over all things competent."
(QS. Al-Maaida 5: Verse 17)

* Via Qur'an English http://quran-en.com

If the Father was Jesus why did Jesus say the father forsake him on the cross it was because the Father in him left him at that moment. So Jesus is not the father. If you beleive the father will abide in you just like he abide in Jesus.

Mathew 27
46 And about the ninth hour (three o'clock) Jesus cried with a loud voice, Eli, Eli, lama sabachthani?--that is, My God, My God, why have You abandoned Me [leaving Me [l]helpless, forsaking and failing Me in My need]?

Good day friend, the first and most basic fact in Christianity is this: Allah is not Jehova, and Jehova is not Allah. The implication of this is that one of the two is not God. A second implication of it is that the followers of one or the other are worshipping a non-existing God and are living in deceit, that is they have been wholly and completely deceived.The third implication of this is that the Holy book of one or the other is a book of lies and deciet.

Now to the OP., Jesus is many things.

1. He is an old testament prophetet
He was a prophet given unto Isreal when the old testament was still in force. He came to fulfil the old testament, lay it aside and kickstart a new testament.

Deuteronomy 18:15 The LORD thy God will raise up unto thee a Prophet from the midst of thee, of thy brethren, like unto me; unto him ye shall hearken;

All Bible scholars agree that the word prophet in the above verse refers to Jesus that is why it's first letter is always capitalised in all translations. Morever Peter quoted the same scripture during his sermon to the crowd that gathered after he performed a miracle at the beautiful gate in reference to Jesus.

Acts 3:22 For Moses truly said unto the fathers, A prophet shall the Lord your God raise up unto you of your brethren, like unto me; him shall ye hear in all things whatsoever he shall say unto you.

Also, Jesus was correctly addressed as a prophet in the Gospel.

Matthew 21:11 And the multitude said, This is Jesus the prophet of Nazareth of Galilee.



2. He was the son of David
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Luke 1:31 And, behold, thou shalt conceive in thy womb, and bring forth a son, and shalt call his name JESUS. 1:32 He shall be great, and shall be called the Son of the Highest: and the Lord God shall give unto him the throne of his father David:



3. He was the son of Joseph

Matthew 1:16 And Jacob begat Joseph the husband of Mary, of whom was born Jesus, who is called Christ.


4. He was the Son of God
John 10:34 Jesus answered them, Is it not written in your law, I said, Ye are gods? 10:35 If he called them gods, unto whom the word of God came, and the scripture cannot be broken; 10:36 Say ye of him, whom the Father hath sanctified, and sent into the world, Thou blasphemest; because I said, I am the Son of God?



5. He was God
Philippians 2:6 Who, being in the form of God, thought it not robbery to be equal with God:

John 1:1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. 1:14 And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth.


6. He was the King of Isreal
Matthew 2:1 Now when Jesus was born in Bethlehem of Judaea in the days of Herod the king, behold, there came wise men from the east to Jerusalem, 2:2 Saying, Where is he that is born King of the Jews? for we have seen his star in the east, and are come to worship him.


So, it's all a matter of perspective. All the above are true about Jesus.

Ok. For clarification, when we say Jesus is God what we mean is that Jesus is a Deity. God - a deity, gave birth to Jesus-a deity. The father - God and Jesus are two different deities. Two different persons each of which are God.

Jesus said several times that God was his father. That was one prime reason he was crucified. The Jews avered that God does not have a child, all God has are servants. They futher declared that by calling God his father Jesus was speaking plasphemy and as such deserves to die.

The Jews understood very clearly that if God were to have a child, his child would also be God. So, they were angry with Jesus for calling God his father because that also meant he was calling himself God.

ADDED LATER:
See relevant scriptures

John 5:18 Therefore the Jews sought the more to kill him, because he not only had broken the sabbath, but said also that God was his Father, making himself equal with God.

John 10:30 I and my Father are one. 10:31 Then the Jews took up stones again to stone him. 10:32 Jesus answered them, Many good works have I shewed you from my Father; for which of those works do ye stone me? 10:33 The Jews answered him, saying, For a good work we stone thee not; but for blasphemy; and because that thou, being a man, makest thyself God. 10:34 Jesus answered them, Is it not written in your law, I said, Ye are gods? 10:35 If he called them gods, unto whom the word of God came, and the scripture cannot be broken; 10:36 Say ye of him, whom the Father hath sanctified, and sent into the world, Thou blasphemest; because I said, I am the Son of God?

Felimax:
Muslims KNOW NOTHING about JESUS CHRIST! What they know about JESUS is like a basket full of water. God has made it so interesting that they lack reasoning and common sense when it comes to this (apologies if you like).
CHECK THIS OUT!

Jn 14:8-11
Philip said, 'Lord, show us the Father and then we shall be satisfied.' Jesus said to him,

9.
'Have I been with you all this time, Philip, and you still do not know me? 'Anyone who has seen me has seen the Father, so how can you say, "Show us the Father"?

10.
Do you not believe that I am in the Father and the Father is in me? What I say to you I do not speak of my own accord: it is the Father, living in me, who is doing his works.

11.
You must believe me when I say that I am in the Father and the Father is in me; or at least believe it on the evidence of these works

Observe that what Phillip demanded to know was to see the Father or that the Son should reveal the Father, how come the Son suddenly attribute the Father to be Himself? That is to say Jesus is the absolute and true reflection of the Father or if you like just as the master said and i quote I Am in the Father and the Father is in Me. (I AM).
We cannot use our limited knowledge and human way of reasoning to decipher the absolute attribution of God. God is God in the Father, the Son, and the Spirit. Shalom!

Sorry, initially quoted you wrongly

Coming up next: THE SOURCE OF GOD'S VAST AND LIMITLESS POWER

HOW GODS FUNCTION

Let's see the relevant scriptures .

Hebrews 11:3 Through faith we understand that the worlds were framed by the word of God, so that things which are seen were not made of things which do appear.

John 1:1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. 1:2 The same was in the beginning with God. 1:3 All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made.

Genesis 1:3 And God said, Let there be light: and there was light.

Matthew 17:20 And Jesus said unto them, Because of your unbelief: for verily I say unto you, If ye have faith as a grain of mustard seed, ye shall say unto this mountain, Remove hence to yonder place; and it shall remove; and nothing shall be impossible unto you.

Matthew 21:21 Jesus answered and said unto them, Verily I say unto you, If ye have faith, and doubt not, ye shall not only do this which is done to the fig tree, but also if ye shall say unto this mountain, Be thou removed, and be thou cast into the sea; it shall be done.

Mark 11:23 For verily I say unto you, That whosoever shall say unto this mountain, Be thou removed, and be thou cast into the sea; and shall not doubt in his heart, but shall believe that those things which he saith shall come to pass; he shall have whatsoever he saith.

Mark 9:23 Jesus said unto him, If thou canst believe, all things are possible to him that believeth.

Isaiah 55:11 So shall my word be that goeth forth out of my mouth: it shall not return unto me void, but it shall accomplish that which I please, and it shall prosper in the thing whereto I sent it.
Matthew 24:35 Heaven and earth shall pass away, but my words shall not pass away.



Hebrew 11:3 tells us that God framed the worlds through faith by using words.

In Genesis 1:3, God said let there be light and there was light.

These and the other scriptures above tells us how Gods function.


Gods function by faith.
Gods function by words.
God's function by speaking faith filled words.

Gods create, by speaking words.
God's create, by speaking faith filled words.

Gods do, by speaking words
Gods do, by speaking faith filled words.

God's perform, by speaking words.
God's perform, by speaking faith filled words.

God's are faith beings.
Gods are word beings.

Whatever Gods set out to achieve, they achieve it by speaking faith filled words.

Faith filled words are the most powerful things in the universe.

Gods function by speaking words, then expecting their words to come to pass.

Whatever you wish to create or achieve as a child-God, you must do so by speaking words, that is, by speaking faith filled words .

The correct way to transform your life, your circumstances, and your situation is by speaking words .

Mark 11: 23 says you will have whatever you say if you believe and doubt not.


Look at what the Bible said in Isaiah 55:11:

Isaiah 55:11 So shall my word be that goeth forth out of my mouth: it shall not return unto me void, but it shall accomplish that which I please, and it shall prosper in the thing whereto I sent it.

The above scripture is true about the father, it is also true about his children because they have the same life and nature.

Let's see what the Bible says in John 6:63:

John 6:63 It is the spirit that quickeneth; the flesh profiteth nothing: the words that I speak unto you, they are spirit, and they are life.

The bolded is true about Jesus, it is also true about every God because we have the same life and nature.

Gods and words go hand-in-hand. You a child of God must learn to function by words and by faith.

Gods resolve situations and circumstances by speaking words- by speaking faith filled words.

Jesus was the first God in human flesh to tread the earth.

When he needed money to pay his taxes, he spoke words.

When he needed a donkey to ride to Jerusalem, he spoke words.

When he needed a place to mark the Passover, he spoke words.

When he was confronted with raging waves and stormy winds, he spoke words.

You a child of God- a God - must function likewise.

lasthero:
Just wondering.
The king pharaoh is the one who didn't allow the Isrealites to go, not the fathers of the first born, not even the innocent first borns.


Why didn't God deal with only pharaoh and his family alone?, why did he use the entire firstborn of innocent fathers to settle scores?

Romans 9:10 And not only this; but when Rebecca also had conceived by one, even by our father Isaac; 9:11 (For the children being not yet born, neither having done any good or evil, that the purpose of God according to election might stand, not of works, but of him that calleth 9:12 It was said unto her, The elder shall serve the younger. 9:13 As it is written, Jacob have I loved, but Esau have I hated. 9:14 What shall we say then? Is there unrighteousness with God? God forbid. 9:15 For he saith to Moses, I will have mercy on whom I will have mercy, and I will have compassion on whom I will have compassion. 9:16 So then it is not of him that willeth, nor of him that runneth, but of God that sheweth mercy. 9:17 For the scripture saith unto Pharaoh, Even for this same purpose have I raised thee up, that I might shew my power in thee, and that my name might be declared throughout all the earth. 9:18 Therefore hath he mercy on whom he will have mercy, and whom he will he hardeneth. 9:19 Thou wilt say then unto me, Why doth he yet find fault? For who hath resisted his will? 9:20 Nay but, O man, who art thou that repliest against God? Shall the thing formed say to him that formed it, Why hast thou made me thus? 9:21 Hath not the potter power over the clay, of the same lump to make one vessel unto honour, Andrew an inother unto dishonour? 9:22 What if God, willing to shew his wrath, and to make his power known, endured with much longsuffering the vessels of wrath fitted to destruction: 9:23 And that he might make known the riches of his glory on the vessels of mercy, which he had afore prepared unto glory,




Genesis 15:13 And he said unto Abram, Know of a surety that thy seed shall be a stranger in a land that is not theirs, and shall serve them; and they shall afflict them four hundred years; 15:14 And also that nation, whom they shall serve, will I judge: and afterward shall they come out with great substance.



Purpose means reason for creation. Once a creation serves the reason for creation, that creation has fulfilled purpose.

It is the creator of a creation that decides it's purpose , and no one should begrudge the creator for making the creation serves it's purpose.

It would be foolish of a person to complain over the usage of dustbin for collecting waste because that it was it was made for.

Reading the above scriptures, you will clearly see that it was the destiny of pharoah and the Egyptians to suffer and did the way there did. That is what they were created for. That was thier purpose, it is the height of stupidity to question a creator over the purpose of his creation.

Buckeyemedia1:
But the Lands Use Act 1978, gives the Governor the power to allocate no more than 400 Hectares @ once for grazing, so which law is President Buhari breaking? Your ignorance to the provisions of the law, is always your downfall.

And if the state governor don't wish to exercise such power what happens?

havocc:
If a mere broken inter tribal marriage is tearing us apart like this online i wonder why we are Nigerians.
Have core yoruba marriages not broken?
Have core igbo marriages broken?
Do we not have happy yoruba and igbo or other tribal marriages that have endured over 30yrs?
What has compatibility got to do with tribe?
If major languages cant live and separate in peace, what would happen when its now between two nationalities?

Friend, if you want to be a hopeless tribalist join nairaland. Nairaland was created for making people hopeless tribalist. It seems you are new to nairaland if not you would have known that another name for nairaland is hopeless-tribalism.
Many people who never new what tribalism was joineed nairaland only to excel at tribalism. If Nigeria breaks today, 90% of the reason would be because of the tribal hatred, tribalism division and tribal enimity being constantly fostered on nairaland.com. #Fact. Again your comment shows you are new to nairaland.com. I officially welcome you to nairaland.com- the epicenter of tribalism, tribal hatred and tribal enimity in Nigeria.

EFULEFU1:


Very sure,I yansh am

I am sorry. It appears someone is trying to pass pregnancy to you. Suddenly called you and accepted you.Allowed you to sleep with her same day.Thw result came out a week later. Pls analyse the situation critically. By the way, that was fornication you committed.

Janosky:

Revelation 3:5,12, what is Jesus in spiritual form?


John 20:17 did God worship himself on earth?

Jesus is God means he is a deity. He has a Father who gave birth to him. His father is also God - a deity. His father has a spirit called holy spirit. His spirit is also God - a deity. So Jesus who is God - a deity - worships his father who is also God-a deity.

All being gives birth to children after their kind. A goat gives birth to a goat, a lion gives birth to a lion, a gorilla gives birth to a gorilla, a God gives birth to a God. Jesus is God because it was a God who gave birth to him. His father is called the Father in the Bible while he is called the Son. Both of them are Gods. They are both deities.

The three Gods - Father, Son and Holy spirit - are one because they agree in one.They are United in purpose.

See the thread below for more info.

https://www.nairaland.com/6691292/lets-talk-gods

Comming up next: HOW GODS FUNCTION

PROPERTIES OF THE FAMILY OF GODS

The family of Gods have numerous properties. But , I will mention only a few here.

1. There is onesness in the family of Gods
Lets see the relevant scriptures

John 10:30 I and my Father are one.

John 17:21 That they all may be one; as thou, Father, art in me, and I in thee, The they also may be one in us: that the world may believe that thou hast sent me.
John 17:22 And the glory which thou gavest me I have given them; that they may be one, even as we are one:
John 17:23 I in them, and thou in me, that they may be made perfect in one; and that the world may know that thou hast sent me, and hast loved them, as thou hast loved me.

The teaching about Trinity teaches about the three in one God. But we see in the above scripture, Jesus praying that the children of God may be one. God in Him and He in them. "That they may be one in us," he says.

No, it is not three in one God but Many-in-one God. Or , if you will, All-in-one God. We are all one in Chist Jesus. Jesus Christ gives a description of concentric circles. He in us, and God in Him. And again, he in God, and us in him.

The family of of Gods is a family of oneness.

2. The is equality in the family of Gods
Let's see the relevant scripture.

Philippians 2:5 Let this mind be in you, which was also in Christ Jesus:
2:6 Who, being in the form of God, thought it not robbery to be equal with God:

The above scripture says that Jesus is equal with God. It means he is equal
with God in power. Just as God is almighty,Jesus also is almighty. What does it mean to be almighty? It means to be able to do all things. Almighty has no comparative nor superlative. That is, there is no such thing as "more almighty" and "most almighty". The father is not more almighty than the son, neither is he more almighty than his children. All Gods are almighty-they can do all things. it is a basic property of Gods. Almightiness is a common denominator with Gods. It's a nature thing. All God's are almighty by nature. If you are God then you are almighty. It's all a nature thing. It is programmed in the nature of God's to be almighty. All child-Gods inherit almightiness from their father. Bible says we are " partakers of the Divine nature"(2 Peter 1:4).

Let's see also, John 5:18.

John 5:18 Therefore the Jews sought the more to kill him, because he not only had broken the sabbath, but said also that God was his Father, making himself equal with God.

In the above scripture, the Jews understood that if a person says God is his father that means he is saying also that he is equal to God. God and his children are equal.They are are all Gods. They are equal in might and power.

Let's see additional scripture that makes it clear that it is possible for child-Gods to walk in almightiness.

Matthew 17:20 And Jesus said unto them, Because of your unbelief: for verily I say unto you, if ye have faith as a grain of mustard seed, ye shall say unto this mountain, Remove hence to yonder place; and it shall remove; and nothing shall be impossible unto you.

Mark 9:23 Jesus said unto him, If thou canst believe, all things are possible to him that believeth.

In the above scripture, Jesus said if a person has faith as a grain of mustard seed, he will walk in almightiness (Mathew 17:20), and that those who believe will walk in almightiness(Mark 9:23). All children of God have the "mustard seed faith" "dealt to them" at the new birth(Rom12:3).

So, all Gods are equal. They are equal in might and power. They all can do all things. They are all almighty.

3. There is difference in authority in the family of Gods

The Greek word for authority is "exousua" while the Greek word for power is "dunamis" . Power is quite different from authority. Power is the dynamic ability to cause changes while authority is usually conferred. A policeman that is not physically powerful can still effect arrest because he has authority. Jesus said something interesting in Mathew 28:18.

Matthew 28:18 And Jesus came and spake unto them, saying, All power is given unto me in heaven and in earth.

The word translated power in the above scripture is the Greek word exousia. So, the more correct rendering is "All authority." Jesus said he was given all ahthority. Obviously, it was the Father who gave him those authority. The one who gives another authority definitely has more authority than the one given authority. Jesus and the Father may be equal in power, but they are definitely not equal in authority. The Father has more authority than Jesus.

Let's see another relevant scripture.


1 Corinthians 15:22 For as in Adam all die, even so in Christ shall all be made alive. 15:23 But every man in his own order: Christ the firstfruits; afterward they that are Christ's at his coming. 15:24 Then cometh the end, when he shall have delivered up the kingdom to God, even the Father; when he shall have put down all rule and all authority and power.
15:25 For he must reign, till he hath put all enemies under his feet. 15:26 The last enemy that shall be destroyed is death. 15:27 For he hath put all things under his feet. But when he saith all things are put under him, it is manifest that he is excepted, which did put all things under him. 15:28 And when all things shall be subdued unto him, then shall the Son also himself be subject unto him that put all things under him, that God may be all in all.

The above scripture says that Jesus will reign until God has put all things under his feet and that God who put all things under his feet is definitely not under his feet( He is not under his authority). It further states that after God has put all things under Jesus' feet, he Jesus will hand over the kingdom unto God and be himself subject unto God that God may be all in all. The fact that Jesus subjects himself unto God means that God has more authority than him. A person is subject only to the person who has more authority than him.

That Jesus himself has more authority than other children of God is clear from sciptures. Bible calls him the head of the Church.Bible call him King of Kings and Lord of Lords.

Let's see also Luke 10:19.

Luke 10:19 Behold, I give unto you power to tread on serpents and scorpions, and over all the power of the enemy: and nothing shall by any means hurt you.

The first word translated power in the above scripture is the Greek word " exousia while the second word translated power is the Greek word dunamis. Here again we see Jesus giving authority to his disciples. Again, the one who gives authority to another has more authority than the one to whom authority is given. Jesus has more authority than other children of God.

Generally, a God of a lower authority can worship a God of higher authority. Jesus himself worships the Father God.In Revelations 3:12 Jesus call the Father his God.

Revelation 3:12 Him that overcometh will I make a pillar in the temple of my God, and he shall go no more out: and I will write upon him the name of my God, and the name of the city of my God, which is new Jerusalem, which cometh down out of heaven from my God: and I will write upon him my new name.

John 20:17 Jesus saith unto her, Touch me not; for I am not yet ascended to my Father: but go to my brethren, and say unto them, I ascend unto my Father, and your Father; and to my God, and your God.

When you call someone your God, it means you are calling him the object of your worship. The one to whom your worship is due. So, Jesus worships the Father God. It is therefore in order for other children of God to worship the Father and Jesus. Also, it is in order for a God of lower authority to worship a God of higher authority amongst the other children of God because Gods are meant to be worshipped.

4. There is seniority in the family of Gods

That there is seniority in the family of Gods is obvious from scriptures. Let's see relevant scripture.

Romans 8:29 For whom he did foreknow, he also did predestinate to be conformed to the image of his Son, that he might be the firstborn among many brethren.

Bible calls him the first born among many brethren. This means he seniors other of his brethren in the other of birth.

This means also that among other brethren there is also different level of seniority. Please note that seniority amongst brethren is not determined by the time of birth. A God born much later can be senior to a God born much earlier for two reasons. First, a person who is more developed in growth is senior to the person who is less developed in growth in the family of Gods. Second a person who has taken his place in the family of Gods is senior to the person who has not taken his place in the family of Gods. Also a person who is earlier in taking his place in the family of Gods is senior to a person who is later in taking his place in the family of Gods.

To take one's place in the family of Gods is to accept that one is indeed a God, be willing to be worshipped, be ready to be worshipped, be comfortable with being God and be willing to tell others that one is God

Generally, a junior God can worship a senior God.

Generally, no one should worship a child of God who has not taken his place in the family of Gods. If he doesn't believe he is God, why worship him? If he is not willing to be worshipped, why worship him? If he is not comfortable with being God, there is no point worshipping him.

So, yes indeed, there is seniority in the family of Gods.

5. There is fellowship in the family of Gods Bible clealy tells us that the family of Gods is a family of fellowship.

1 John 1:3 That which we have seen and heard declare we unto you, that ye also may have fellowship with us: and truly our fellowship is with the Father, and with his Son Jesus Christ.
1 John 1:7 But if we walk in the light, as he is in the light, we have fellowship one with another, and the blood of Jesus Christ his Son cleanseth us from all sin. I

1 Corinthians 1:9 God is faithful, by whom ye were called unto the fellowship of his Son Jesus Christ our Lord.

2 Corinthians 13:14 The grace of the Lord Jesus Christ, and the love of God, and the communion of the Holy Ghost, be with you all. Amen.

We have been called unto fellowship. Fellowship with the Father, fellowship with the Son, fellowship with the Holy Spirit, and fellowshipping with one another. Ours is a family of fellowship.

Comming up Next: PROPERTIES OF THE FAMILY OF GODS

PROPERTIES OF GODS IN HUMAN FLESH

Gods in human flesh ( that is, Gods in human body) have a lot of properties, but I will mention some here. The complete list can be gotten by studying the life of Jesus in the Gospels because Jesus is the first God in human flesh to tread the earth.

1. Gods in human flesh have the life of their father
Eternal life is the life of God the father. The Greek word for eternal life is Zoe. It is the Divine life. It is the life of a deity. It is the life that the Father have that make him God. Every other being apart from the father that has eternal life is also God. Only Gods have eternal life. Every child of God the Father have exact same life that God the Father has-eternal life.

Let's see the relevant scriptures.

John 5:26 For as the Father hath life in himself; so hath he given to the Son to have life in himself;

1 John 5:11 And this is the record, that God hath given to us eternal life, and this life is in his Son.

1 John 5:13 These things have I written unto you that believe on the name of the Son of God; that ye may know that ye have eternal life, and that ye may believe on the name of the Son of God.

The Greek word translated "life" in John 5:26 is the word "Zoe".

So, every child of God have the self same life that God the father has.


2. Gods in human flesh have the nature of their father
Indeed, God's in human flesh have the exact same nature as their father. The following scriptures makes it clear.

2 Peter 1:4 Whereby are given unto us exceeding great and precious promises: that by these ye might be partakers of the divine nature, having escaped the corruption that is in the world through lust.

1 John 3:9 Whosoever is born of God doth not commit sin; for his seed remaineth in him: and he cannot sin, because he is born of God.

Some translations translate the bolded as nature.

So, every child of God have the nature of the Father. This means the principle of heredity holds for Gods. This means every property that God the Father has is also true about his children because his children inherit directly from him. All God's have the same properties- the property of God the Father. If you want to know your property as a child of God, then find out from scriptures the properties of the Father God.


3. Gods in human flesh grow
Yes, indeed, every child of God grows. This is made clear in the scripture below.

1 Peter 2:2 As newborn babes, desire the sincere milk of the word, that ye may grow thereby:

Every child of God is born an infant and must go through the natural process of growth. He must progress from infanthood to childhood and then finally to adulthood.

The properties of Gods are true about every child of God whether they appear so or not in your situations and circumstances or not.

If you see an human infant that that cannot talk intelligibly or walk on two legs, do you say the infant is not a human being because of that? No certainly not. You will say he is a human being but needs to grow up in the human life such that he starts functioning as a human.

Similarly if you see a child of God who does not exhibit or more of the properties of Gods, you don't say he is not a God, but rather that he is an infant God who needs to grow up in the God life such that he starts functioning as God.

What a child of God need to do to grow up in the God life is to feed fat on God's word and apply the mirror principle of God's word.

Let's look briefly at the mirror principle of God's word.

James 1:23 For if any be a hearer of the word, and not a doer, he is like unto a man beholding his natural face in a glass: 1:24 For he beholdeth himself, and goeth his way, and straightway forgetteth what manner of man he was. 1:25 But whoso looketh into the perfect law of liberty, and continueth therein, he being not a forgetful hearer, but a doer of the work, this man shall be blessed in his deed.

The above scripture explains that when you hear( or read) the word of God, you see your true reflection in the mirror. The word of God tells you who you really are, not your circumstances, not your situations. What you see in the word of God is the real you. You are expected to adjust your life to comform to the image of yourself that you saw in the mirror.You are who the word of God says you are not who circumstances or situations say you are. So, if the word of God says you are God, then you are God. All you need to do is start functioning as God.

2 Corinthians 3:18 But we all, with open face beholding as in a glass the glory of the Lord ,are changed into the same image from glory to glory, even as by the Spirit of the LORD.

The above scripture says that as you keep looking into the glass which is the word of God you are transformed into the same image from glory to gloryby the Spirit of God.What a child of God sees when he looks into the mirror (God's word) is God's glory. He is God's glory.

4. Gods in human flesh must be worshipped face-to-face
Jesus Christ is the first example of God in human flesh and he was worshipped face-to-face.

Matthew 14:33 Then they that were in the ship came and worshipped him, saying, Of a truth thou art the Son of God.

You don't worship a God in human flesh from a remote location. You don't burn candle to him or offer sacrifices unto him. You don't represent him with an image. You must worship him in person- face-to-face.

A God is a deity. A deity is an object of worship. Gods are meant to be worshipped. There is absolutely nothing wrong or unscriptural about worshipping Gods in human flesh. So, children of God have a right to be worshipped because they are Gods.

Coming up next: PROPERTIES OF GODS IN HUMAN FLESH

HOW GOD GIVES BIRTH TO CHILDREN

First you must understand that the person Jesus never existed in the beginning. In the beginning there existed God, the Spirit of God and the Word of God.(See Genesis 1:1-3).

1 John 5:7 For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one.

Jesus Christ is the name given to the Word of God that became a human being. This is clearly seen in the following scriptures:

John 1:1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. 1:14 And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth.

One translation rendered the bolded as " the Word became human".

Luke 1:31 And, behold, thou shalt conceive in thy womb, and bring forth a son, and shalt call his name JESUS.

So, as said earlier, Jesus is the name given to the word of God that became a human being in the womb of Mary. The feutus in the womb of Mary was fathered by God through his word. God gives birth to children by his word. This is clearly stated in 1 John 1: 23

1 Peter 1:23 Being born again, not of corruptible seed, but of incorruptible, by the word of God, which liveth and abideth for ever.

The word translated seed in the above verse is from the Greek word "sperma" from which we have the English word "sperm". That means the word of God is the incorruptible sperm with which God
gives birth to children.

The same process through which Jesus was born is the same process through which every other child of God was born- through the Word of God that became a human.

Man is a spirit, he has a soul and lives in a body (1 These. 5:23). He is neither a soul nor a body. He is wholly and entirely a spirit, but he has a soul and lives in a body. His soul consist of his will, his mind and his emotion. However, he, the spirit, lives in a body.

So, in the case of Jesus, the Word of God became a spirit, soul and body. While, in the case of other children of God the word of God became a spirit attached to an already existing soul and placed in an already existing body. This is made quite clear by 2 Cor 5: 17.

2 Corinthians 5:17 Therefore if any man be in Christ, he is a new creature: old things are passed away; behold, all things are become new.

The word new in the above scripture was translated from the Greek word "kaino" which means "a new specie that never existed before". A born again human being is a new specie of human being that never existed before. He has no past. The person who says the sinners prayer in which he accepts Christ as his Lord and Personal Saviour and the person who emerges from the prayer are not one and the same person. The first person is what the Bible calls an "old man", the second person is what the Bible calls a "new man". The "old man" is an old specie of human being while the "new man" is a new specie of human being. When a person gives his life to Christ, his "old man" is destroyed or killed while the "new man" which is "created" or more correctly put "born by God" , replaces him.

Romans 6:6 Knowing this, that our old man is crucified with him, that the body of sin might be destroyed, that henceforth we should not serve sin.

To crucify in the above verse means to kill.

So, yes, God gives birth to children by his Word. Jesus is the Word of God that became a human being while other children of God are also the word of God that became human beings. This means that Jesus is no more a child of God than his other children. Jesus just happens to be the "first born among many brethren" ( Romans 8:29). This also means that Jesus is no more God than all the other children of the Father God. Every child that God gives birth to is God.

Coming up next: HOW GOD GIVES BIRTH TO CHILDREN

NOTE TO READERS
If you are in a hurry,read the following now:

1. What a god is.
2. A child of God is a God.
3. Properties of Gods
4. How God functions.

Read the rest later.








WHAT A GOD IS

What is a God? A God is a spirit being that can create.

Genesis 1:1 In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth. 1:2 And the earth was without form, and void; and darkness was upon the face of the deep. And the Spirit of God moved upon the face of the waters.

The above scripture says that God - a spirit - created the heavens and the earth.

Going by the above definition of a God , it means that idols are not Gods because they are not spirits. It also means that demons and angels are not Gods because they cannot create. It means also that Satan also is not a God because he is a fallen angel. Creation is the Hallmark of Gods. Only Gods can create.

What does it mean to create? To create means to make something out of nothing. As opposed to 'make' which means to build something from something else.

A CHILD OF GOD IS A GOD
All beings gives birth to children after their kind. A goat gives birth to a goat. A donkey gives birth to a donkey. A lion gives birth to a lion. A God gives birth to a God.

Let's see scriptural references that substantiate the assertion that a child of God is a God.

John 5:18 Therefore the Jews sought the more to kill him, because he not only had broken the sabbath, but said also that God was his Father, making himself equal with God.

John 10:30 I and my Father are one. 10:31 Then the Jews took up stones again to stone him. 10:32 Jesus answered them, Many good works have I shewed you from my Father; for which of those works do ye stone me? 10:33 The Jews answered him, saying, For a good work we stone thee not; but for blasphemy; and because that thou, being a man, makest thyself God. 10:34 Jesus answered them, Is it not written in your law, I said, Ye are gods? 10:35 If he called them gods, unto whom the word of God came, and the scripture cannot be broken; 10:36 Say ye of him, whom the Father hath sanctified, and sent into the world, Thou blasphemest; because I said, I am the Son of God?

Jesus never said he was God. What he said what that God was his is father and that he was the son of God. But the Jews understood the implication of a person saying God was his father or that he is a child of God. They knew such a person was actually saying that he was God because if God were to give birth to a child, that child would also be God.

The interesting thing about this is that there a millions of born-again Christian's who say God is their father and that they are children of God yet they find difficult to come to terms with the fact that they are Gods. To such people, it's alright if Jehovah is God. It's alright if Jesus is God. But how can a human being claim to be God?

The Crux of the issue that the Jews had with Jesus was that it was impossible for a human being to be God. Jesus in his defence said that the concept of a human being being God did not originate from him, but rather that it originate from God himself. To substantiate that he quoted Psam 82:6.

Psalms 82:6 I have said, Ye are gods; and all of you are children of the most High.

So, yes, a human being can be God. A human being is God if, and only if, God is his father. If you are born again, your paternity is clear from scriptures. God is your father in the true and actual sense of the word.

John 1:12 But as many as received him, to them gave he power to become the sons of God, even to them that believe on his name: 1:13 Which were born, not of blood, nor of the will of the flesh, nor of the will of man, but of God.


James 1:18 Of his own will begat he us with the word of truth, that we should be a kind of firstfruits of his creatures.


PROPERTIES OF GODS
God's have a lot of properties but I will mention a few basic ones. To get a complete list of properties of Gods, you need to study the Bible.


1. Gods can do all things.
Is it possible for a God in human body to walk in omnipotence? Definitely yes. Jesus said so. Paul said so. Let's see the relevant scriptures.

Matthew 17:20 And Jesus said unto them, Because of your unbelief: for verily I say unto you, If ye have faith as a grain of mustard seed, ye shall say unto this mountain, Remove hence to yonder place; and it shall remove; and nothing shall be impossible unto you.

Mark 9:23 Jesus said unto him, If thou canst believe, all things are possible to him that believeth.

Philippians 4:13 I can do all things through Christ which strengtheneth me.

The utterances that Jesus made in the above scriptures is actually meant for our dispensation. The dispensation of Gods. He said, "If you have faith as a grain of mustard seed." Scriptures says in Romans 12:3 that God had dealt to every child of his " a measure of faith." So every child of God has at the new birth dealt to him ' faith as a mustard seed.'


2. Gods know all things
The question is this: is it possible for God in human flesh to know all things? Definitely yes. Scriptures says so.

1 John 2:20 But ye have an unction from the Holy One, and ye know all things.



3. Gods are everywhere at the same time.
So, can a God in human body be in more than one place at the same yime? Definitely yes. Paul showed it is possible.

1 Corinthians 5:3 For I verily, as absent in body, but present in spirit, have judged already, as though I were present, concerning him that hath so done this deed, 5:4 In the name of our Lord Jesus Christ, when ye are gathered together, and my spirit, with the power of our Lord Jesus Christ, 5:5 To deliver such an one unto Satan for the destruction of the flesh, that the spirit may be saved in the day of the Lord Jesus.

4. Gods don't sin
The Bible tells us clearly that Gods in human body don't sin.

1 John 3:9 Whosoever is born of God doth not commit sin; for his seed remaineth in him: and he cannot sin, because he is born of God.


5. Gods are meant to be worshipped
Is it scriptural to worshipped a God in human flesh? Definitely yes. Let's see relevant scripture.

Revelation 3:9 Behold, I will make them of the synagogue of Satan, which say they are Jews, and are not, but do lie; behold, I will make them to come and worship before thy feet, and to know that I have loved thee.

HardMirror:
GOD'S NOT DEAD, HE'S LIVING ON THE INSIDE; ROARING LIKE A LION!
So in 2012, same year i finally concluded i was done with this faith thing after internal battles for the past 2 years, a movie was released -one of the biggest movies ever made by the Christian movie industry
GOD'S NOT DEAD!!!

This movie was a sensation in the christian circle around the world, they jubilation, they celebrated, they finally found the answer they have been looking for.

IT SEEMED THE SCIENCE COMMUNITY AND ATHEIST COMMUNITY HAD BEEN GIVING THEM A REAL TOUGH TIME AND THEY WERE ALREADY LOSING HOPE OF GETTING MEANINGFUL DEFENSE FOR THEIR FAITH.

finally this movie took a "scientific" approach to proving God was alive.
or did it?
i watched the movie and honestly, it in no way proves that god is real.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S_OTz-lpDjw

The theme song for the movie (video above), by the Newsboys has been a sensation, with christians singing and jubilating as if they just found their god whom they actually thought was dead. this movie and song seemed to have brought god back to life.

so lets look at it does the song even make any sense?

the song says "god's not dead, he is living on the inside, roaring like a lion"
this summarizes the whole christain faith. They have no prove for god, god is real because they say it is real, it is their opinion that must be taken as a fact. he is living inside them, meaning without them, there is no god. else why must they always be the ones speaking for god?
they claim god is roaring like a lion, i guess they are the only ones hearing the roars, cos we hear no lion roaring through them. all christians are as ordinary as any other human,; be hindu, muslim, atheists any one of any race, class, religion. they are just humans. nothing is roaring like a lion in them except their imaginations.


are you a christian? is god living inside you?
show me one thing that makes you special than other people of other faith or of no faith?

The reason why people cannot get scientific or physical proof that God exists is because he is a spirit. Man is used to believing only what his senses te him. Science is based wholly and entirely on information gathered by or conclusions come to by using the senses.

For as long as you depend on the senses you will never find God because God cannot be contacted by the five physical senses. God can only be contacted by the human spirit which is a spirit like God.

The only way to find God is by faith. Faith is believing God's word rather than the senses.

The Bible says "faith cometh by hearing , hearing by the word of God." If you want to find God, read your bible with an open and sincere heart. If you do that, you will develop faith and you will eventually find God.

God definitely is living and roaring inside of me. Many nairalands than are witches and wizards and occultic people have witnessed first hand that God is very much alive and is living inside of me. Many of them may get to read this post but the vast majority are dead.

I will create a thread were I will detail how many nairalands came to witness God living and roaring inside of me. The thread will be titled, " My encounter with nairalands witches."

Please read my thread titled " Holy spirit inspired rituals" which I have already created, and the thread titled "Let's talk about God's" so that you can fully understand that encounter.

God bless you.

P.S.

Just as the body have senses, similarly the spirit have sense. If you study the Bible you will find verses that says God heard, God smelt, and God saw. It take spirit senses to contact God. Spirit senses. Depend of faith and faith comes from God's word.

A ritual ( in this context) is an action or set of actions that usually involves bodily movement and/ or utterances that have spiritual implications or effects. There are different types of rituals. Most rituals create circumstances that are time-bound to happen in the sense realm.


RITUALS IN THE OLD TESTAMENTS

1. COVENANT RITUAL
Abraham was from an idolatrous family. As clearly stated in the scripture below.

Joshua 24:2 And Joshua said unto all the people, Thus saith the LORD God of Israel, Your fathers dwelt on the other side of the flood in old time, even Terah, the father of Abraham, and the father of Nachor: and they served other gods.

He was very familiar with many idolatrous practices such as offering sacrifices, making covenants and performing rituals.

In covenant ritual, the people who are to make the covenant get animals like cows, goats, pigeons, and so on, and cut each one in two halves. Then they lay each of the halves of each animals cut one after the other on one side then they lay the other halves of the animals cut on the other opposite side such that each cut half is opposite it's other half. Then each person who is making the covenant will take turns walking in between the two set of the halves, declaring the terms of the covenant. Among others, he will declare that if I break this covenant let me be killed and let my body be cut in halves like these animals. So, the penalty for breaking a Ritual Covenant is death.

The only example of Ritual Covenant found in the Bible is the one performed by Almighty God himself.

In Genesis 15:5 - 21, God had promised to make Abraham's seeds as numerous as the stars of the sky. Abraham believed God and God counted it to him for righteousness. God then proceeded to promise to give Abraham the lands of the Chaldeans. But Abraham demanded from God an assurance that he would inherit the said land. To assure Abraham, God made a covenant with Abraham by performing a ritual. After God finished performing the ritual, Abraham became convinced beyond all possible doubts that he would inherit those lands. Abraham knew very well that the consequence for breaking a Ritual Covenant was death. He knew that if God ever broke that covenant, God would definitely die. The details of the account is given below.


Genesis 15:5 And he brought him forth abroad, and said, Look now toward heaven, and tell the stars, if thou be able to number them: and he said unto him, So shall thy seed be. 15:6 And he believed in the LORD; and he counted it to him for righteousness. 15:7 And he said unto him, I am the LORD that brought thee out of Ur of the Chaldees, to give thee this land to inherit it. 15:8 And he said, LORD God, whereby shall I know that I shall inherit it? 15:9 And he said unto him, Take me an heifer of three years old, and a she goat of three years old, and a ram of three years old, and a turtledove, and a young pigeon. 15:10 And he took unto him all these, and divided them in the midst, and laid each piece one against another: but the birds divided he not. 15:11 And when the fowls came down upon the carcases, Abram drove them away. 15:12 And when the sun was going down, a deep sleep fell upon Abram; and, lo, an horror of great darkness fell upon him. 15:13 And he said unto Abram, Know of a surety that thy seed shall be a stranger in a land that is not theirs, and shall serve them; and they shall afflict them four hundred years; 15:14 And also that nation, whom they shall serve, will I judge: and afterward shall they come out with great substance. 15:15 And thou shalt go to thy fathers in peace; thou shalt be buried in a good old age. 15:16 But in the fourth generation they shall come hither again: for the iniquity of the Amorites is not yet full. 15:17 And it came to pass, that, when the sun went down, and it was dark, a smoking furnace, and a burning lamp that passed between those pieces. 15:18 In the same day the LORD made a Covenant with Abram, saying, Unto thy seed have I given this land, from the river of Egypt unto the great river, the river Euphrates: 15:19 The Kenites, and the Kenizzites, and the Kadmonites, 15:20 And the Hittites, and the Perizzites, and the Rephaims, 15:21 And the Amorites, and the Canaanites, and the Girgashites, and the Jebusites.

The smoking furnace and burning lamp
that passed in between the cut halves
showed Abraham God's current location as he walked between the cut-halves.

Verse 18 and 19 stated clearly that a covenant had just occurred.


We find another reference made to Ritual Covenant in Jeremiah 34:18 - 20

Jeremiah 34:18 And I will give the men that have transgressed my covenant, which have not performed the words of the covenant which they had made before me, when they cut the calf in twain, and passed between the parts thereof, 34:19 The princes of Judah, and the princes of Jerusalem, the eunuchs, and the priests, and all the people of the land, which passed betweening the parts of the calf; 34:20 I will even give them into the hand of their enemies, and into the hand of them that seek their life: and their dead bodies shall be for meat unto the fowls of the heaven, and to the beasts of the earth.


2. SPIRITUAL MISSION
A spiritual mission is a spcified movement from one location to another in order to cause an event to happen in the the physical realm from the spiritual realm. Such movements usually have specified pattern.

We see God instructing the children of Isreal to perform a ritual in other to fall the wall of Jericho in Joshua 6: 2 - 5.

Joshua 6:2 And the LORD said unto Joshua, See, I have given into thine hand Jericho, and the king thereof, and the mighty men of valour. 6:3 And ye shall compass the city, all ye men of war, and go round about the city once. Thus shalt thou do six days. 6:4 And seven priests shall bear before the ark seven trumpets of rams' horns: and the seventh day ye shall compass the city seven times, and the priests shall blow with the trumpets. 6:5 And it shall come to pass, that when they make a long blast with the ram's horn, and when ye hear the sound of the trumpet, all the people shall shout with a great shout; and the wall of the city shall fall down flat, and the people shall ascend up every man straight before him.


3. VICTORY RITUAL
This is a ritual that is performed to achieve future victory.

We see an example in 2 King 13: 14-19. where Elisha Instructed Joash the then king of Isreal to perform a ritual so that he would have future victory over Syria.

2 Kings 13:14 Now Elisha was fallen sick of his sickness whereof he died. And Joash the king of Israel came down unto him, and wept over his face, and said, O my father, my father, the chariot of Israel, and the horsemen thereof. 13:15 And Elisha said unto him, Take bow and arrows. And he took unto him bow and arrows. 13:16 And he said to the king of Israel, Put thine hand upon the bow. And he put his hand upon it: and Elisha put his hands upon the king's hands. 13:17 And he said, Open the window eastward. And he opened it. Then Elisha said, Shoot. And he shot. And he said, The arrow of the LORD's deliverance, and the arrow of deliverance from Syria: for thou shalt smite the Syrians in Aphek, till thou have consumed them. 13:18 And he said, Take the arrows. And he took them. And he said unto the king of Israel, Smite upon the ground. And he smote thrice, and stayed. 13:19 And the man of God was wroth with him, and said, Thou shouldest have smitten five or six times; then hadst thou smitten Syria till thou hadst consumed it: whereas now thou shalt smite Syria but thrice.


RITUALS IN THE NEW TESTAMENT.

1.REJOICE RITUAL ( A.K.A. DANCING IN THE SPIRIT)

The only example of this ritual in scriptures was performed by Jesus himself. We see this in Luke 10:21.

Luke 10:21 In that hour Jesus rejoiced in spirit, and said, I thank thee, O Father, Lord of heaven and earth, that thou hast hid these things from the wise and prudent, and hast revealed them unto babes: even so, Father; for so it seemed good in thy sight.

The greek word translated rejoice in the above scripture is the Greek word "agalio" which means "to hop to and fro".

I would say here that "dancing in the spirit" is not a human kind of dance. It is a spiritual type of dance that only Christian's who are baptised in the holy spirit can perform. It is a spiritual way of releasing joy from the recreated human spirit. It also a way of giving vent to joy that is currently bubbling in the recreated human spirit.

It is only born-again Christian's that can experience joy. What people who are not born again experience is happiness. Happiness is dependent on happenings or circumstances. If good things happen you are happy. If bad things happen, you are sad . Whereas joy is a fruit of the recreated human spirit.

Galatians 5:22 But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, longsuffering, gentleness, goodness, faith,

No matter the circumstances or happenings, a born again Christian can release joy from his spirit by dancing in the spirit. No wonder the Bible says ," Rejoice evermore" (1 Thess. 5:16).


3. PRAYER RITUAL (A.K.A. LIFTING UP OF THE HAND)
Lifting up of the hand in prayer is a ritual. It has spiritual significance. It hance spiritual effects. It has spiritual implications.


1 Timothy 2:8 I will therefore that men pray every where, lifting up holy hands, without wrath and doubting.


Psalms 141:2 Let my prayer be set forth before thee as incense; and the lifting up of my hands as the evening sacrifice.


3. WORSHIP RITUAL
A worship ritual is a ritual that is performed for the purpose of worship. We see an example in Revelations 4: 9- 11

Revelation 4:9 And when those beasts give glory and honour and thanks to him that sat on the throne, who liveth for ever and ever, 4:10 The four and twenty elders fall down before him that sat on the throne, and worship him that liveth for ever and ever, and cast their crowns before the throne, saying, 4:11 Thou art worthy, O Lord, to receive glory and honour and power: for thou hast created all things, and for thy pleasure they are and were created.


In the above scripture, every time the beast gave honour and thanks to him that sat on the throne, the twenty-four elders performed a worship ritual which involves casting their crown before the throne.


HOLY SPIRIT INSPIRED RITUALS
Holy spirit inspired rituals are rituals that are inspired by and done under the influence of the spirit. Holy spirit inspired rituals are most edifying, in fact, they are more edifying than speaking in tongues.


To start performing Holy Spirit inspired rituals say the following confession.
"I believe in God ordained, Jesus approved, and Holy Spirit inspired rituals".



God bless you.

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