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 Christianity Etc › Re: From Pastor To Atheist: Why I Will Never Be A Christian Again by nencounter10: 4:00pm On Aug 28, 2021 |
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| Christianity Etc › Re: From Pastor To Atheist: Why I Will Never Be A Christian Again by nencounter10: 3:50pm On Aug 28, 2021 |
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| Christianity Etc › Re: From Pastor To Atheist: Why I Will Never Be A Christian Again by nencounter10: 3:17pm On Aug 28, 2021 |
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| Christianity Etc › Re: From Pastor To Atheist: Why I Will Never Be A Christian Again by nencounter10: 3:03pm On Aug 28, 2021 |
Kobojunkie:Sorry, I don't remember quoting you. I quoted hardmirror in a bid to understand how grounded he was in Christ before he strayed. I can't make head or tail from this your post. BTW I remember you are the one who called God's word and lie when I quoted a scripture in Hebrews that said without the shedding of blood there is no remission of sin. Your response was to show a scripture where Jesus forgave sin. That was the basis for which you concluded that the word of God is a lie. After that reaction, I gave up on you. Of course, you though you won the argument. I just shook my head. I really do not know how nairalanders post people's response case by case in a single reply. There was no way I was going to be able to give an effective response to you. So, I decided to let you enjoy your supposed victory. Since then I make it a point of duty not to get into conversation with you. If you a professing christian can call God's word and lie, what then do I use to convince you. If I had quoted my own opinion, there would have been a basis for to keep converse with. Also if you had been an unbeliever, there would have still been a basis. But, a professing christian calling God's word and lie, that was way, way, way too strange a mindset, in my own opinion. In my own expectation Christians are expected to bow to God's word. Since you don't fit into that expectation. I really don't see any reason to converse with you. Notwithstanding, I may one of these days try and see if your mindset has changed. That's all from me. You can reply if you want, but be rest assured that I won't reply to your reply. 1 Like |
| Christianity Etc › Re: From Pastor To Atheist: Why I Will Never Be A Christian Again by nencounter10: 2:32pm On Aug 28, 2021 |
HardMirror:We're you filled with the holy Spirit? We're you speaking in tongues? |
| Christianity Etc › Re: Will God Condemn People Who Have Never Even Heard About The Gospel by nencounter10: 12:38pm On Aug 28, 2021*. Modified: 2:06pm On Aug 28, 2021 |
sonmvayina:This is how the judgement will most likely end if one does not give his life to Christ. Revelation 20:11 And I saw a great white throne, and him that sat on it, from whose face the earth and the heaven fled away; and there was found no place for them. 20:12 And I saw the dead, small and great, stand before God; and the books were opened: and another book was opened, which is the book of life: and the dead were judged out of those things which were written in the books, according to their works to. 20:13 And the sea gave up the dead which were in it; and death and hell delivered up the dead which were in them: and they were judged every man according to their works. 20:14 And death and hell were cast into the lake of fire. This is the second death. 20:15 And whosoever was not found written in the book of life was cast into the lake of fire. In summary, Jesus will give one a fair hearing so that one can see that one deserves to be doomed. There will be no aquital. Modified: If one gives his life to Christ he will not be judged at all. John 5:24 Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that heareth my word, and believeth on him that sent me, hath everlasting life, and shall not come into condemnation; but is passed from death unto life. |
| Christianity Etc › Re: Will God Condemn People Who Have Never Even Heard About The Gospel by nencounter10: 12:06pm On Aug 28, 2021*. Modified: 12:28pm On Aug 28, 2021 |
Idamond:They will be judged based on their works. Romans 2:1 Therefore thou art inexcusable, O man, whosoever thou art that judgest: for wherein thou judgest another, thou condemnest thyself; for thou that judgest doest the same things. 2:2 But we are sure that the judgment of God is according to truth against them which commit such things. 2:3 And thinkest thou this, O man, that judgest them which do such things, and doest the same, that thou shalt escape the judgment of God? 2:4 Or despisest thou the riches of his goodness and forbearance and longsuffering; not knowing that the goodness of God leadeth thee to repentance? 2:5 But after thy hardness and impenitent heart treasurest up unto thyself wrath against the day of wrath and revelation of the righteous judgment of God; 2:6 Who will render to every man according to his deeds: 2:7 To them who by patient continuance in well doing seek for glory and honour and immortality, eternal life: 2:8 But unto them that are contentious, and do not obey the truth, but obey unrighteousness, indignation and wrath, 2:9 Tribulation and anguish, upon every soul of man that doeth evil, of the Jew first, and also of the Gentile; 2:10 But glory, honour, and peace, to every man that worketh good, to the Jew first, and also to the Gentile: 2:11 For there is no respect of persons with God. 2:12 For as many as have sinned without law shall also perish without law: and as many as have sinned in the law shall be judged by the law; 2:13 For not the hearers of the law are just before God, but the doers of the law shall be justified. [/b]2:14[b] For when the Gentiles, which have not the law, do by nature the things contained in the law, these, having not the law, are a law unto themselves: 2:15 Which shew the work of the law written in their hearts, their conscience also bearing witness, and their thoughts the mean while accusing or else excusing one another; ) 2:16 In the day when God shall judge the secrets of men by Jesus Christ according to my gospel. |
| Christianity Etc › Re: Let's Talk About Gods by nencounter10(op): 6:13am On Aug 28, 2021 |
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| Christianity Etc › Re: Let's Talk About Gods by nencounter10(op): 6:12am On Aug 28, 2021 |
HOW GODS HEAL THE SICK Psalm 107:20 tells us how Gods heal the sick. Psalms 107:20 He sent his word, and healed them, and delivered them from their destructions. As the above verse shows, Gods heal the sick by speaking words. Remember that the principle of heredity holds for Gods. God the Father heals the sick through his words. Similarly all child-Gods also heal the sick by speaking words. Remember, also, that Gods unleash power by speaking faith filled words. |
| Christianity Etc › Re: Let's Talk About Gods by nencounter10(op): 6:01am On Aug 28, 2021 |
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| Christianity Etc › Re: Let's Talk About Gods by nencounter10(op): 5:07am On Aug 28, 2021 |
HOW GODS CAST OUT DEVILS It is perfectly scriptural for Christians to cast out devils using the name of Jesus. But, Gods don't need the name of Jesus to cast out devils. When a person cast out a demon using the name of Jesus. It is equivalent to Jesus Christ personally casting out the devil by himself. Gods can personally cast out devils by themselves without the use of the name of Jesus. Let's quickly see the scriptural principle under which Gods cast out devils. Jesus Christ is the first God in human flesh to cast out devils without recourse to the use of a special name. If we can pinpoint how Jesus did his demon casting out, then we have pinpointed how Gods cast out devils. 1. Jesus cast out devils by exercising faith Matthew 17:18 And Jesus rebuked the devil; and he departed out of him: and the child was cured from that very hour. 17:19 Then came the disciples to Jesus apart, and said, Why could not we cast him out? 17:20 And Jesus said unto them, Because of your unbelief: for verily I say unto you, If ye have faith as a grain of mustard seed, ye shall say unto this mountain, Remove hence to yonder place; and it shall remove; and nothing shall be impossible unto you. 2. Jesus cast out devils by speaking words Matthew 8:16 When the even was come, they brought unto him many that were possessed with devils: and he cast out the spirits with his word, and healed all that were sick: 3. Jesus Christ cast out devils by exercising authority Mark 1:27 And they were all amazed, insomuch that they questioned among themselves, saying, What thing is this? what new doctrine is this? for with authority commandeth he even the unclean spirits, and they do obey him. Luke 4:36 And they were all amazed, and spake among themselves, saying, What a word is this! for with authority and power he commandeth the unclean spirits, and they come out. 4. Jesus cast out devils with power Luke 4:36 And they were all amazed, and spake among themselves, saying, What a word is this! for with authority and power he commandeth the unclean spirits, and they come out. WHY DEVILS OBEYED JESUS There were two reasons why devils obeyed Jesus. 1. He was the son of God Matthew 8:28 And when he was come to the other side into the country of the Gergesenes, there met him two possessed with devils, coming out of the tombs, exceeding fierce, so that no man might pass by that way. 8:29 And, behold, they cried out, saying, What have we to do with thee, Jesus, thou Son of God? art thou come hither to torment us before the time? Every son that God births is God. Sons of God are authorized to cast out devils because they are Gods. 2. He had power Luke 4:36 And they were all amazed, and spake among themselves, saying, What a word is this! for with authority and power he commandeth the unclean spirits, and they come out. Remember that Gods unleash power by speaking faith filled words. That is why it is possible for Gods to cast out devils by speaking words . So, in conclusion, Gods cast out devils by speaking faith filled words with authority. |
| Christianity Etc › Re: Let's Talk About Gods by nencounter10(op): 8:47pm On Aug 27, 2021 |
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| Christianity Etc › Re: Let's Talk About Gods by nencounter10(op): 8:15pm On Aug 27, 2021*. Modified: 5:58am On Aug 28, 2021 |
GODS DO NOT NEED TO PRAY IN THE NAME OF JESUS There are a number of reasons why it is wise to pray in the name of Jesus. 1. Jesus has given his followers the power of attorney to ask of the Father his name John 16:23 And in that day ye shall ask me nothing. Verily, verily, I say unto you, Whatsoever ye shall ask the Father in my name, he will give it you. John 16:24 Hitherto have ye asked nothing in my name: ask, and ye shall receive, that your joy may be full. Because of the power of attorney, asking anything in the name of Jesus is equivalent to Jesus Christ making that request. A request made in the name of Jesus cannot be denied answer if PRAYER in faith and in line with Gods will. 2. Jesus is the mediator of the new covenant A mediator is a go-between between to parties. He facilitate communication between two parties. Hebrews 8:6 But now hath he obtained a more excellent ministry, by how much also he is the mediator of a better covenant, which was established upon better promises. Hebrews 9:15 And for this cause he is the mediator of the new testament, that by means of death, for the redemption of the transgressions that were under the first testament, they which are called might receive the promise of eternal inheritance. Hebrews 12:24 And to Jesus the mediator of the new covenant, and to the blood of sprinkling, that speaketh better things than that of Abel. Because the children of God have an access to covenant relationship with God, it is the appropriate thing to do to communicate with him through Jesus Christ. 3. Jesus is the mediator between man and God A mediator is also a peace maker between two parties. 1 Timothy 2:5 For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus; Since Jesus is the mediator between man and God, it is the appropriate thing to do to approach God through Jesus. There are a number of reasons why it is appropriate to pray to the father without the name of Jesus. 1. Children of God have direct access to the Father through the blood of Jesus. Hebrews 10:19 Having therefore, brethren, boldness to enter into the holiest by the blood of Jesus to, 10:20 By a new and living way, which he hath consecrated for us, through the veil, that is to say, his flesh; 2. Sonship relationship is superior to covenant relationship The new covenant is strictly for the children of Is real. Jeremiah 31:31 Behold, the days come, saith the LORD, that I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel, and with the house of Judah: The only reason why children of God have access to the new covenant only because they are children of Abraham by faith. Galatians 3:7 Know ye therefore that they which are of faith, the same are the children of Abraham. So, children of God can relate with him either in the light of the new covenant or in the light of their sonship. Let's take a minute to justapose covenant relationship with sonship relationship. Two people make a covenant usually for one party to have access to the resources or abilities that the other party has that the first party does not have. Look for example at NATO. The weaker nations that are members of it have access to stronger nations military might in the time of war. The stronger nation have access to set up military base in the weaker nation in other to pose greater threat to their enimies. Similarly when someone have a covenant relationship with God, it gives him access Gods might for protection, provision and such like while God has access to his time, hands, and resources to expand his kingdom. In contrast, in sonship relationship everything your father God has is yours. John 16:15 All things that the Father hath are mine: therefore said I, that he shall take of mine, and shall shew it unto you. Romans 8:17 And if children, then heirs; heirs of God, and joint-heirs with Christ; if so be that we suffer with him, that we may be also glorified together. Galatians 4:1 Now I say, That the heir, as long as he is a child, differeth nothing from a servant, though he be lord of all; A son has absolute access to the father's resource in the kingdom of God. A child of God can relate with God as his God, that is, the object of his worship; or as his covenant partner, that is, the one whose might he has access to; or as his father, that is, the one who fathered him. When you relate with God as your father, you do not need to make request of him using a special name. 3. The paternity of a child who cannot communicate directly with his father is in doubt. If a child cannot communicate directly with his father, then his paternity is in doubt . If you born again, you paternity is not in doubt. God is your father in the true and actual sense of the word. He was the one who fathered you. You came out of his loins. John 1:12 But as many as received him, to them gave he power to become the sons of God, even to them that believe on his name: 1:13 Which were born, not of blood, nor of the will of the flesh, nor of the will of man, but of God. James 1:18 Of his own will begat he us with the word of truth, that we should be a kind of firstfruits of his creatures. If God is indeed your father, then you have direct access to communicate with him without the use of a special name, ortherwise your paternity is in doubt. IS IT POSSIBLE TO PRAY TO GOD WITHOUT A SPECIAL NAME AND YET RECEIVE ANSWER? Let's see examples of prayers prayed to God without the use of a special name to which their were definitely answers. 1. Hannah's prayer 1 Samuel 1:13 Now Hannah, she spake in her heart; only her lips moved, but her voice was not heard: therefore Eli thought she had been drunken. 1 Samuel 1:15 And Hannah answered and said, No, my lord, I am a woman of a sorrowful spirit: I have drunk neither wine nor strong drink, but have poured out my soul before the LORD. 1 Samuel 1:19 And they rose up in the morning early, and worshipped before the LORD, and returned, and came to their house to Ramah: and Elkanah knew Hannah his wife; and the LORD remembered her. The above prayer was done without any special name and still got an answer. 2. Jabez's prayer 1 Chronicles 4:10 And Jabez called on the God of Israel, saying, Oh that thou wouldest bless me indeed, and enlarge my coast, and that thine hand might be with me, and that thou wouldest keep me from evil, that it may not grieve me! And God granted him that which he requested. The prayer above was done without a special name and it received answer. 3. Hezekiah's Prayer 2 Kings 20:1 In those days was Hezekiah sick unto death. And the prophet Isaiah the son of Amoz came to him, and said unto him, Thus saith the LORD, Set thine house in order; for thou shalt die, and not live. 2 Kings 20:3 I beseech thee, O LORD, remember now how I have walked before thee in truth and with a perfect heart, and have done that which is good in thy sight. And Hezekiah wept sore. 2 Kings 20:5 Turn again, and tell Hezekiah the captain of my people, Thus saith the LORD, the God of David thy father, I have heard thy prayer, I have seen thy tears: behold, I will heal thee: on the third day thou shalt go up unto the house of the LORD. Hezekiah prayed without any special name and got an answer. 4.The Disciples Prayer in Acts 1 Acts 1:24 And they prayed, and said, Thou, Lord, which knowest the hearts of all men, shew whether of these two thou hast chosen, 1:25 That he may take part of this ministry and apostleship, from which Judas by transgression fell, that he might go to his own place. 1:26 And they gave forth their lots; and the lot fell upon Matthias; and he was numbered with the eleven apostles. In the above scripture, the disciples prayed for a replacement for Judas Iscariot and their prayer was answered. 5.The Disciples Prayer in Acts 4 Acts 4:23 And being let go, they went to their own company, and reported all that the chief priests and elders had said unto them. 4:24 And when they heard that, they lifted up their voice to God with one accord, and said, Lord, thou art God, which hast made heaven, and earth, and the sea, and all that in them is: 4:25 Who by the mouth of thy servant David hast said, Why did the heathen rage, and the people imagine vain things? 4:26 The kings of the earth stood up, and the rulers were gathered together against the Lord, and against his Christ. 4:27 For of a truth against thy holy child Jesus, whom thou hast anointed, both Herod, and Pontius Pilate, with the Gentiles, and the people of Israel, were gathered together, 4:28 For to do whatsoever thy hand and thy counsel determined before to be done. 4:29 And now, Lord, behold their threatenings: and grant unto thy servants, that with all boldness they may speak thy word, 4:30 By stretching forth thine hand to heal; and that signs and wonders may be done by the name of thy holy child Jesus. 4:31 And when they had prayed, the place was shaken where they were assembled together; and they were all filled with the Holy Ghost, and they spake the word of God with boldness. The above is a prayer prayed by the disciples after Pentecost when the chief priest, scribds and elders of the people threaten to deal with them if they go on preaching in the name of Jesus. The prayer was not done in the name of Jesus, yet it received immediate answer. 6. The Prayer in Ephesians 1 Ephesians 1:15 Wherefore I also, after I heard of your faith in the Lord Jesus, and love unto all the saints, 1:16 Cease not to give thanks for you, making mention of you in my prayers; 1:17 That the God of our Lord Jesus Christ, the Father of glory, may give unto you the spirit of wisdom and revelation in the knowledge of him: 1:18 The eyes of your understanding being enlightened; that ye may know what is the hope of his calling, and what the riches of the glory of his inheritance in the saints, 1:19 And what is the exceeding greatness of his power to us-ward who believe, according to the working of his mighty power, 1:20 Which he wrought in Christ, when he raised him from the dead, and set him at his own right hand in the heavenly places, 1:21 Far above all principality, and power, and might, and dominion, and every name that is named, not only in this world, but also in that which is to come: 1:22 And hath put all things under his feet, and gave him to be the head over all things to the church, 1:23 Which is his body, the fulness of him that filleth all in all. The above prayer is a scriptural prayer with no reference to Jesus' name. 7.The Prayer in Ephesians 3 Ephesians 3:14 For this cause I bow my knees unto the Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, 3:15 Of whom the whole family in heaven and earth is named, 3:16 That he would grant you, according to the riches of his glory, to be strengthened with might by his Spirit in the inner man; 3:17 That Christ may dwell in your hearts by faith; that ye, being rooted and grounded in love, 3:18 May be able to comprehend with all saints what is the breadth, and length, and depth, and height; 3:19 And to know the love of Christ, which passeth knowledge, that ye might be filled with all the fulness of God. The above is another scriptural prayer that has no reference to the name of Jesus. 8.The Phillipians Prayer Philippians 1:9 And this I pray, that your love may abound yet more and more in knowledge and in all judgment; 1:10 That ye may approve things that are excellent; that ye may be sincere and without offence till the day of Christ; 1:11 Being filled with the fruits of righteousness, which are by Jesus Christ, unto the glory and praise of God. The above is also a scriptural prayer that has no reference to the name of Jesus. 9. The Prayer in 2 Thesalonian 2 Thessalonians 1:11 Wherefore also we pray always for you, that our God would count you worthy of this calling, and fulfil all the good pleasure of his goodness, and the work of faith with power: 1:12 That the name of our Lord Jesus Christ may be glorified in you, and ye in him, according to the grace of our God and the Lord Jesus Christ. The above prayer was not done in the name of Jesus even though it was a scriptural prayer. YOU ARE AS MUCH A CHILD OF GOD AS JESUS IS You are as much a child of God as Jesus is- no less. Jesus just happens to be the first among many brethren(Romans 8:,29) You are as much God as Jesus is-no less. As Jesus is so are you in this life. God is your father as much as he is Jesus' father-no less. You are in the family. You are a son in the family. You are a son in the family of Gods. In that family, there is face to face communication. |
| Christianity Etc › Re: Let's Talk About Gods by nencounter10(op): 2:58pm On Aug 27, 2021 |
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| Christianity Etc › Re: Let's Talk About Gods by nencounter10(op): 2:52pm On Aug 27, 2021 |
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| Christianity Etc › Re: Let's Talk About Gods by nencounter10(op): 1:05am On Aug 27, 2021*. Modified: 2:48pm On Aug 27, 2021 |
WHAT PRAYER MEANS TO GODS IN HUMAN BODY Jesus Christ was the first example of God in human body. He showed by his life style that prayer is very important to Gods in human body. He often would wake up a great while before day to pray. Many a times, he would pray all through the night. The question is this: why would almighty God pray? The short answer to that question is this: prayer for Gods in human body is primarily fellowship with the Father. Apart from his prayer at Lazarus tomb and that which he prayed at Gethsemane, we do not know the content of his prayer because he always usually drove his disciples away to so as to pray in absolute privacy. The new question is this: what would a man like Jesus ask from his Father? He showed absolute dominance over nature, needs and wants. When he was faced with a storm he spoke like God to the storm and there was a great calm. When he needed money to pay his tax, he got it miraculously from the mouth of a fish. When there was no ship to convey him across the sea, he walked on the sea. These tells us that those his prayer times were primarily spent fellowshipping with his father. Prayer for Gods in human flesh is primarily fellowshipping with the Father.Think about it for a moment, what is the point bugging your father with prayer request when you can do all things. What is the point asking your father for help when you are almighty. Gods spend their prayer time primarily for fellowshipping with the Father. Remember, there is fellowship in the family of Gods. 1 John 1:3 That which we have seen and heard declare we unto you, that ye also may have fellowship with us: and truly our fellowship is with the Father, and with his Son Jesus Christ. Jesus Christ resolved nearly all situations he faced all by himself without asking help from his father. The only exceptions were his prayer at the tomb of Lazarus when he was faced with raising a person who had been dead for four days and his prayer at Gethsemane when he was faced with the prospect of death. In those two cases, Jesus felt quite out of his depth and thus saw the need to ask help from his father. There is absolutely nothing wrong with asking help of your father if you feel out of your depth. There is absolutely nothing wrong with making a petition of him if you feel out of your depth. Asking help of your father or making a petition of your father does not mean you are not almighty. Almightiness is a nature with Gods. All Gods in human body are born almighty. It's their nature. Almightiness is a common denominator with Gods. Whether a child of God walks in almightiness or not, he is almighty. It's all really a nature thing. Bible says we are partakers of the Divine nature(2 Peter 1:4). Almightiness is a nature of the father and we all have inherited that from him at the new birth. What a child of God needs to do is to learn to walk in almightiness. Remember, all God's in human flesh grow. You don't conclude or confess that you are not almighty just because of what situation or circumstances say. You are what God says you are. You are what the word says you are whether your situations or circumstances say the same thing or not. He has said you are God(Psalm82:6) . His words clealy say he is your father. Any child born of God is God. Remember that Gods grow (1 Peter 2:2). That a child creeps on his hand and legs does not mean he is not human. All he had to do is to learn to functions like humans by learning to walk on two legs. Jesus himself learn to function as God. It took him thirty years to learn to walk as much as he did as God. He was born an infant. He cried like a baby during his baby hood. He messed up himself during his baby hood. He had to learn to walk and talk as human. Yet he was almighty God in his infanthood,babyhood and teenagehood. He went through the natural process of growth. Luke 2:52 And Jesus increased in wisdom and stature, and in favour with God and man. The above scripture says Jesus was not always as wise as he became. He grew in wisdom and in favour with God. The inference is that he grew also in the God life and that he grew in his ability to function as God. If Jesus grew all the way from spiritual infancy to spiritual adulthood. Why don't you allow yourself to go through the same. He was God from the point of birth before he learnt to function efficiently as God. The same is true of you. What you must do is to resolve every situation and circumstance you face all by yourself without asking help from any of the father, son, or holy spirit. You can, all by yourself, resolve all situations and circumstances by unleashing vast and limitless power from eternal which is resident in your spirit by speaking faith filled words. Prayer for Gods in human flesh is primarily fellowship with the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit. |
| Christianity Etc › Re: Let's Talk About Gods by nencounter10(op): 10:47pm On Aug 26, 2021 |
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| Christianity Etc › Re: Let's Talk About Gods by nencounter10(op): 10:24pm On Aug 26, 2021 |
THE ANOINTING WAS NOT MEANT FOR GODS BUT FOR HUMANS If a person wants to know how God functions, he needs to study how Jehovah functioned in the old testament. If the same person wants to know how Gods in human flesh function, he will have to study how Jesus-the first example of God in human flesh-functioned. Jehovah never needed the anointing to get anything done, to get things done he used spoken words. Hebrews 11:3 Through faith we understand that the worlds were framed by the word of God, so that things which are seen were not made of things which do appear. All through the old testament, we see God get things personally y done by spoken words. On many occasions when he chose to get thing done for him, he uses men, albeit, anointed men. God invented the a anointing to make it possible for men to get things done for him using his power. The anointing is God's power made available for human use. God, on his own, does not need the anointing to get things done. Men of God like Moses, Joshua, Elijah and Elisha are some of the men anointed by God to get things done for him. Without the anointing these men could not have wielded the kind of supernural power that they wielded. God had promised the Isrealites that he would send a Prophet like Moses to them- an anointed miracle worker who would rule over them. Deuteronomy 18:15 The LORD thy God will raise up unto thee a Prophet from the midst of thee, of thy brethren, like unto me; unto him ye shall hearken; All Bible scholars agree that the word 'prophet' in the above verse refers to Jesus. Peter, in the new testament confirmed it by quoting the same verse of scripture in reference to Jesus in his sermon to the multitude who had gathered after the miracle he performed at the beautiful gate. Acts 3:22 For Moses truly said unto the fathers, A prophet shall the Lord your God raise up unto you of your brethren, like unto me; him shall ye hear in all things whatsoever he shall say unto you. So, the Isrealites were expecting an anointed miracle worker ruler. Besides this, he also promised them a Messiah (Daniel 9:25,26) which is a Hebrew word for Christ which means 'the anointed one'. So, the Isrealites were expecting an anointed ruler with miracle working power like Moses. The Isrealites already had a good idea what an anointed man could do judging from the example of Moses, Elijah, and Elisha. This was why Jesus had to be anointed. Jesus did not need the anointing. He was almighty God. He could do all things by merely speaking faith filled words. God's don't need the anointing-they are meant for human use. If you study the ministry of Jesus closely, you will notice he got things done mostly by speaking words. Let's see a few examples. Luke 4:38 And he arose out of the synagogue, and entered into Simon's house. And Simon's wife's mother was taken with a great fever; and they besought him for her. Luke 4:39 And he stood over her, and rebuked the fever; and it left her: and immediately she arose and ministered unto them. Matthew 8:16 When the even was come, they brought unto him many that were possessed with devils: and he cast out the spirits with his word, and healed all that were sick: There were also times when he used the anointing like as seen in the example below. Mark 5:25 And a certain woman, which had an issue of blood twelve years, 5:26 And had suffered many things of many physicians, and had spent all that she had, and was nothing bettered, but rather grew worse, 5:27 When she had heard of Jesus, came in the press behind, and touched his garment. 5:28 For she said, If I may touch but his clothes, I shall be whole. 5:29 And straightway the fountain of her blood was dried up; and she felt in her body that she was healed of that plague. 5:30 And Jesus, immediately knowing in himself that virtue had gone out of him, turned him about in the press, and said, Who touched my clothes? While there is nothing wrong for a child of God to use the anointing, it is not the standard way that Gods function. God's function by speaking faith filled words. Gods function by unleashing power from eternal life resident in their spirit by speaking faith filled words. You may ask, what does it matter the approach I use? All that matters is me getting things done. It is the dream of God that his children will walk side by side by him in the God-life. God wants us to function like God's. He wants us to grow up in the God-life up to a point in which we function as full fledged God's. 1 Peter 2:2 As newborn babes, desire the sincere milk of the word, that ye may grow thereby: You need to develop faith in your words. When you develop faith in your words, you are actually developing faith in Gods word. It was God who declared that we are Gods Psalms 82:6 I have said, Ye are gods; and all of you are children of the most High. When we function as Gods we are acting on his words. God spoke to me. He said a time will come in the body of Christ when my children will literarily speak things into existence by speaking faith filled words. Learn to function as God, learn to get things done by speaking faith filled words. Learn to unleash power from eternal life resident in your spirit by speaking faith filled words. Jesus said it over and over again. He said with faith filled words you can get things done. Matthew 19:26 But Jesus beheld them, and said unto them, With men this is impossible; but with God all things are possible. Mark 11:23 For verily I say unto you, That whosoever shall say unto this mountain, Be thou removed, and be thou cast into the sea; and shall not doubt in his heart, but shall believe that those things which he saith shall come to pass; he shall have whatsoever he saith. Matthew 21:21 Jesus answered and said unto them, Verily I say unto you, If ye have faith, and doubt not, ye shall not only do this which is done to the fig tree, but also if ye shall say unto this mountain, Be thou removed, and be thou cast into the sea; it shall be done. Remember the anointing is not meant for Gods but for men . |
| Christianity Etc › Re: Let's Talk About Gods by nencounter10(op): 8:40pm On Aug 26, 2021 |
Comming up next: THE ANOINTING IS NOT MEANT FOR GODS BUT FOR HUMANS |
| Christianity Etc › Re: Let's Talk About Gods by nencounter10(op): 8:36pm On Aug 26, 2021*. Modified: 6:13pm On Apr 11, 2022 |
THE SOURCE OF GOD'S VAST AND LIMITLESS POWER The Bible does not tell us the source of God's power explicitly, but it does tell us the source of God's power implicitly. John 5:26 For as the Father hath life in himself; so hath he given to the Son to have life in himself; The word translated life in the above is the Greek word Zoe which is more correctly translated eternal life. Eternal life is the life of God. It it the life that God has that makes him God. It is the life of divinity. The reason why God is almighty is because he has eternal life. His vast and limitless power originate from his life-eternal life. Why is is that God's word is so powerful that it can create any thing and it can make any thing happen. It is because each time he speaks vast and limitless power is unleashed from eternal life resident in his spirit to create or accomplish what he says. The origin origin of God's power is his life-eternal life. The above is the reason why all children of are also almighty: they have the exact, same and identical life that God the Father has.Not an upgraded, or lower version, the very self same version. The very life of God that makes him Almighty God is the same life that the children have. Any being that has eternal life is God. Any being that has eternal is almighty because eternal life is the source of God's vast and limitless power. What is the implication of this for children of God? It means they too can unleash vast and limitless power from eternal life resident in their spirit by speaking faith filled words. However, it is important to note that while God the father had vast and limitless faith his children mostly do not have as much faith as the Father have. How quickly a person produce result depends on how large his faith is. A small faith will not produce results as quickly as a bigger faith. God's faith can produce instantaneous result because his faith is vast and limitless in size. Bible says that God deals to us in our spirit a small measure of faith at the new birth. Romans 12:3 For I say, through the grace given unto me, to every man that is among you, not to think of himself more highly than he ought to think; but to think soberly, according as God hath dealt to every man the measure of faith. So, every child of God receives a small measure of faith at the new birth and it is expected of him to grow it into a vast and limitless size. The fact that a person has a small faith does not make him not to be almighty. Jesus said it is not the size of faith that matters but the nature of faith. Mark 11:22 And Jesus answering saith unto them, Have faith in God. Some translations render the above as "have the faith of God" some render it as "have the God-kind of faith. So there is a "faith of God" or God-kind of faith. God dealt a measure of his kind of faith into our spirit at the new birth. Every child of God receives the same small measure of the God-kind of faith at the new birth. That is why Romans12:3 refers to it as "the measure of faith" and not "a measure of faith". There is a standard small measure of the God-kind of faith dealt to every child of God at the new birth. It is the responsibility of every child of God to grow his small sized faith to a big sized faith. So, like I said earlier, Jesus made it clear that the size of faith does not matter as far as almightiness is concerned. With a faith as small as a mustard seed, you can still do all things. You are still almighty. Let's see the relevant scripture. Matthew 17:20 And Jesus said unto them, Because of your unbelief: for verily I say unto you, If ye have faith as a grain of mustard seed, ye shall say unto this mountain, Remove hence to yonder place; and it shall remove; and nothing shall be impossible unto you. So with a small faith you can still do all things, but you have to be patient enough to allow your faith to produce the desired result. Jesus said with a small faith you can do all things, but he did not say how quickly you will get each of those things done. To get faster result with you faith you need to grow your faith by feeding voraciously on God's word. Romans 10:17 So then faith cometh by hearing, and hearing by the word of God. |
| Christianity Etc › Re: Is Jesus Christ A God Or A Prophet by nencounter10: 3:39pm On Aug 26, 2021*. Modified: 4:38pm On Aug 26, 2021 |
AntiChristian:Jesus Christ called God his God sever times in scripture. It is perfectly scriptural. He said it on the cross, he said it to matter after his resurrection. He said it several times in revelation. It may not make sense to you , it makes perfect sense to christians. God the Father is his father and also his God. It you don't believe it, it means absolutely nothing. Who cares if a Muslim does not believe a Bible fact is a Bible fact. Absolutely no one.Job done zero . Visit the thread whose link I gave you to get answers to your questions. If you believe them, good. If you don't believe them, it means absolutely nothing. Have a nice day. Modified: Relevant scriptures: John 20:17 Jesus saith unto her, Touch me not; for I am not yet ascended to my Father: but go to my brethren, and say unto them, I ascend unto my Father, and your Father; and to my God, and your God. Revelation 3:12 Him that overcometh will I make a pillar in the temple of my God, and he shall go no more out: and I will write upon him the name of my God, and the name of the city of my God, which is new Jerusalem, which cometh down out of heaven from my God: and I will write upon him my new name. |
| Christianity Etc › Re: Is Jesus Christ A God Or A Prophet by nencounter10: 10:10pm On Aug 25, 2021 |
haekymbahdx:I am sorry, I don't mean to be rude.I am just not interested in pursuing this further. Follow the link I gave you. Someone already gave a detailed break down of the Grammer of that verse somewhere on nairaland. |
| Christianity Etc › Re: Is Once Saved, Always Saved Biblical? Prince Gabriel Okocha by nencounter10: 9:10pm On Aug 25, 2021 |
The thread below is revant. It explains what righteousness is. It shows that new testament righteousness is not based on works. https://www.nairaland.com/5894534/righteousness-explained |
| Christianity Etc › Re: Is Jesus Christ A God Or A Prophet by nencounter10: 7:58pm On Aug 25, 2021*. Modified: 8:39pm On Aug 25, 2021 |
haekymbahdx:https://www.nairaland.com/search?q=accusative&search=Search In case you are unable to follow the link I gave you above, the following should help you. Just as we have the nominative(subject) case and objective(object) case in English and the form of a word(usually pronouns) changes with cases.For instancd, He is used for the nominative case while 'him' is used for the objective case. Both refers to singular male person. Another example is the word 'they' . They is used In the nominative case while 'them' is used in the objective case. They both refer to plural male person. Similarly, in Greek, a noun has up to eight cases. Theos is used in one case and theon is used in another case. They bother refer to the noun God. |
| Christianity Etc › Re: Is Jesus Christ A God Or A Prophet by nencounter10: 7:36pm On Aug 25, 2021 |
haekymbahdx:Both words mean God, but the form changes with usage . Follow the link below for more info https://www.nairaland.com/search?q=accusative&search=Search |
| Christianity Etc › Re: Is Jesus Christ A God Or A Prophet by nencounter10: 6:43pm On Aug 25, 2021 |
AntiChristian:Sorry, I don't have time for debates. I just state the truth and move on. Theon and Theos are different forms of the noun Theo. Just as have, had and has are different form of the verb 'to have' in English language.Consult a Greek Grammer book for more info. As for the other thing you wrote consult the thread below for more info. https://www.nairaland.com/6691292/lets-talk-gods |
| Christianity Etc › Re: Is Once Saved, Always Saved Biblical? Prince Gabriel Okocha by nencounter10: 11:33pm On Aug 24, 2021*. Modified: 3:12pm On Aug 27, 2021 |
unstoppable51:Once saved forever saved is scriptural. Jesus Christ is the Author of ETERNAL salvation. Hebrews 5:9. There three types of salvation mentioned in scripture. 1. The salvation of our spirit Romans10:9-10. This occurs when you give your life to Christ and become born again. It involves the recreation of the human spirit. 2. Salvation of your soul 1 Peter1:9 This involves the renewal of our mind. It is a life long process. 3. Salvation of your body Romans 8:23 This occurs at rapture. When a person becomes born-again he becomes born of God. God fathered him. John 1:12. No child of God can go to hell. Once a person becomes born again, his spirit is recreated. If anyman be in Christ he is a new creation(2 corinthians 5:17) The word translated 'new' three is the Greek word kaino which means a new specie that never existed before and as such has no past. A born again child of God is a new specie of human who has the life and nature of God. Hell is meant for the old creation i.e. the old specie of man Jesus said when the holy spirit comes to live in us, he will live in us forever. John 14:16 And I will pray the Father, and he shall give you another Comforter, that he may abide with you for ever; No body who has the holy spirit will end up in hell. Bible say we are saved by grace without any recourse to works. Why then do people expect us to work-out our salvation Philippians 2:12 Wherefore, my beloved, as ye have always obeyed, not as in my presence only, but now much more in my absence, work out your own salvation with fear and trembling. 2:13 For it is God which worketh in you both to will and to do of his good pleasure. The Bible says we should work out or salvation, but quickly add that"It is God who works in us BOTH TO DO AND TO WILL HIS OWN GOOD PLEASURE. 1 Like |
| Christianity Etc › How To Personally Handle Your Own Dream by nencounter10(op): 9:24pm On Aug 24, 2021*. Modified: 9:43pm On Aug 24, 2021 |
Are you born again? If yes, you don't need to have your dreams interpreted. Only those who are not born again need dream interpretation. If you have read your bible you will notice that only the unbelievers needed dream interpretation. People like Nebukadnezer, Pharoah etc. If you have a dream and do not understand it simply forget about it. All the people of God who had dreams never needed interpretation. God is an intelligent God, when he speaks to his people he speaks to them with clarity. Dreams come from three possible sources: God, Satan or you. If it comes from God then its meaning will definitely be clare to you if you are a born again child of God. If it comes from you, then it is perfectly harmless and most likely a product of your day's activity. Ecclesiastes 5:3 For a dream cometh through the multitude of business; and a fool's voice is known by multitude of words. If it comes from the devil and you are a born again child of God then the right thing for you to do is ignore it. Usually, the devil tries to attack people through dreams. But the Bible says: Isaiah 54:17 No weapon that is formed against thee shall prosper; and every tongue that shall rise against thee in judgment thou shalt condemn. This is the heritage of the servants of the LORD, and their righteousness is of me, saith the LORD. As a born again Christian you should have learned that it is faith in God's word that protects God's children. God has promised in his word to ensure that no weapon formed against us shall prosper. You job is to believe God and not the dream, and that should settle it for you. I am aware that once a person dreams a dream that is from the devil, demonic spirit hang around trying to influence the person to believe the dream rather than the word of God. If you believe the dream rather than the word of God, you open yourself to harm from Satan. But, if you believe God's word rather than the dream, you open yourself to God's protecting power because God is faithful to his promise. Just simply exercise your faith in the word and promise of God. The life of a child of God is a life of faith. So, if you are not born again, your best protection from dreams that are from the devil is to give your life to Christ and be born again. So, in summary, if you are born again, ignore dreams you don't understand. Reject and ignore dreams that you understand but are negetive.Accept and act on dreams that you understand and are positive. I trust that this will help you. 1 Like |
| Christianity Etc › Re: Please, Can Anyone Here Help Me Interpret This Dream... by nencounter10: 9:19pm On Aug 24, 2021*. Modified: 9:38pm On Aug 24, 2021 |
Emotionalbeing:Are you born again? If yes, you don't need to have your dreams interpreted. Only those who are not born again need dream interpretation. If you have read your bible you will notice that only the unbelievers needed dream interpretation. People like Nebukadnezer, Pharoah etc. If you have a dream and do not understand it simply forget about it. All the people of God who had dreams never needed interpretation. God is an intelligent God, when he speaks to his people he speaks to them with clarity. Dreams come from three possible sources: God, Satan or you. If it comes from God then its meaning will definitely be clare to you if you are a born again child of God. If it comes from you, then it is perfectly harmless and most likely a product of your day's activity. Ecclesiastes 5:3 For a dream cometh through the multitude of business; and a fool's voice is known by multitude of words. If it comes from the devil and you are a born again child of God then the right thing for you to do is ignore it. Usually, the devil tries to attack people through dreams. But the Bible says: Isaiah 54:17 No weapon that is formed against thee shall prosper; and every tongue that shall rise against thee in judgment thou shalt condemn. This is the heritage of the servants of the LORD, and their righteousness is of me, saith the LORD. As a born again Christian you should have learned that it is faith in God's word that protects God's children. God has promised in his word to ensure that no weapon formed against us shall prosper. You job is to believe God and not the dream, and that should settle it for you. I am aware that once a person dreams a dream that is from the devil, demonic spirit hang around trying to influence the person to believe the dream rather than the word of God. If you believe the dream rather than the word of God, you open yourself to harm from Satan. But, if you believe God's word rather than the dream, you open yourself to God's protecting power because God is faithful to his promise. Just simply exercise your faith in the word and promise of God. The life of a child of God is a life of faith. So, if you are not born again, your best protection from dreams that are from the devil is to give your life to Christ and be born again. So, in summary, if you are born again, ignore dreams you don't understand. Reject and ignore dreams that you understand but are negetive.Accept and act on dreams that you understand and are positive. I trust that this will help you. 1 Like |
| Christianity Etc › Re: Is Jesus Christ A God Or A Prophet by nencounter10: 8:06pm On Aug 24, 2021*. Modified: 8:18pm On Aug 25, 2021 |
haekymbahd:Good day friend, the first and most basic fact in Christianity is this: Allah is not Jehova, and Jehova is not Allah. The implication of this is that one of the two is not God. A second implication of it is that the followers of one or the other are worshipping a non-existing God and are living in deceit, that is they have been wholly and completely deceived.The third implication of this is that the Holy book of one or the other is a book of lies and deciet. Now to the OP., Jesus is many things. 1. He is an old testament prophetet He was a prophet given unto Isreal when the old testament was still in force. He came to fulfil the old testament, lay it aside and kickstart a new testament. Deuteronomy 18:15 The LORD thy God will raise up unto thee a Prophet from the midst of thee, of thy brethren, like unto me; unto him ye shall hearken; All Bible scholars agree that the word prophet in the above verse refers to Jesus that is why it's first letter is always capitalised in all translations. Morever Peter quoted the same scripture during his sermon to the crowd that gathered after he performed a miracle at the beautiful gate in reference to Jesus. Acts 3:22 For Moses truly said unto the fathers, A prophet shall the Lord your God raise up unto you of your brethren, like unto me; him shall ye hear in all things whatsoever he shall say unto you. Also, Jesus was correctly addressed as a prophet in the Gospel. Matthew 21:11 And the multitude said, This is Jesus the prophet of Nazareth of Galilee. 2. He was the son of David to Luke 1:31 And, behold, thou shalt conceive in thy womb, and bring forth a son, and shalt call his name JESUS. 1:32 He shall be great, and shall be called the Son of the Highest: and the Lord God shall give unto him the throne of his father David: 3. He was the son of Joseph Matthew 1:16 And Jacob begat Joseph the husband of Mary, of whom was born Jesus, who is called Christ. 4. He was the Son of God John 10:34 Jesus answered them, Is it not written in your law, I said, Ye are gods? 10:35 If he called them gods, unto whom the word of God came, and the scripture cannot be broken; 10:36 Say ye of him, whom the Father hath sanctified, and sent into the world, Thou blasphemest; because I said, I am the Son of God? 5. He was God Philippians 2:6 Who, being in the form of God, thought it not robbery to be equal with God: John 1:1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. 1:14 And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth. 6. He was the King of Isreal Matthew 2:1 Now when Jesus was born in Bethlehem of Judaea in the days of Herod the king, behold, there came wise men from the east to Jerusalem, 2:2 Saying, Where is he that is born King of the Jews? for we have seen his star in the east, and are come to worship him. So, it's all a matter of perspective. All the above are true about Jesus. Ok. For clarification, when we say Jesus is God what we mean is that Jesus is a Deity. God - a deity, gave birth to Jesus-a deity. The father - God and Jesus are two different deities. Two different persons each of which are God. Jesus said several times that God was his father. That was one prime reason he was crucified. The Jews avered that God does not have a child, all God has are servants. They futher declared that by calling God his father Jesus was speaking plasphemy and as such deserves to die. The Jews understood very clearly that if God were to have a child, his child would also be God. So, they were angry with Jesus for calling God his father because that also meant he was calling himself God. ADDED LATER: See relevant scriptures John 5:18 Therefore the Jews sought the more to kill him, because he not only had broken the sabbath, but said also that God was his Father, making himself equal with God. John 10:30 I and my Father are one. 10:31 Then the Jews took up stones again to stone him. 10:32 Jesus answered them, Many good works have I shewed you from my Father; for which of those works do ye stone me? 10:33 The Jews answered him, saying, For a good work we stone thee not; but for blasphemy; and because that thou, being a man, makest thyself God. 10:34 Jesus answered them, Is it not written in your law, I said, Ye are gods? 10:35 If he called them gods, unto whom the word of God came, and the scripture cannot be broken; 10:36 Say ye of him, whom the Father hath sanctified, and sent into the world, Thou blasphemest; because I said, I am the Son of God? |
| Christianity Etc › Re: Is Jesus Christ A God Or A Prophet by nencounter10: 7:43pm On Aug 24, 2021 |
Felimax:Sorry, initially quoted you wrongly 1 Like |
| Christianity Etc › Re: Let's Talk About Gods by nencounter10(op): 6:36pm On Aug 24, 2021*. Modified: 6:33pm On Aug 26, 2021 |
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