Mynd44:

This just brings a new dynamics. There have been reports that some of the protesters were armed and that might explain the pellets because the police or army does not carry pellets

Pellets in this context mean bullets.

SavageMaster:


This story doesn't add up.

If the "daughter" was born in 1996, she should be 24 years old. How old was she when the man met and married her for papers in the US?

How come she was already a citizen when she got married to her "father"? Was she adopted by a US family after her birth?

How come she didn't show her mother the picture of the man that wanted to marry her and now she's taking him to see her mother?

Can someone pls clear my confusion on the above questions?

He concluded the complicated story by saying only himself and his wife’s mother know about the true situation of things.

Yet, he called in to a Nigerian radio station program to narrate the story.

The Lies here are too much joor!

She could have been born in the US.

TempleHouse:
I think the story doesn't add up if you checked the time line and the contents of the story.

What's the age of the man 25 years ago and when does the child-wife arrived in the US to get married to her six years ago. .?

No question asked about the mother in law since six years ago after two kids ?

No phone call or the names of the family, or about the fathers new wife's name until they arrived Nigeria. ?

A 19 years old Yoruba girl married a man above 50 yrs old to give her US green card or Papers. ?

She was just 19 when she married him and when did she arrived US .?

So many unanswered questions....

This FM station do organised a sensational story to trend in order to enhance big audience for the next series.

She could have been born in the US.
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GBTYO:
Orlando Hall, who was African American, was found guilty by an all white jury, which lawyers claim was the result of racial discrimination.


A blackman abducts, rapes and buries a black woman alive leaving her to die and all these Jewish lawyers can use as argument to aquitt is the composition of the Juries race despite all mounting evidence and the victims testinonies .

And the useless Jew owned paper decided to play the racism card in their useless publication.


Well, Americans deserve what they are going through under the leprous control of Judas .

Five people were involved in the church crime. What happened to the remaining four?

alizma:

Do you understand the policy or you just type without clear understanding? The government is protecting your interest and you call that wickedness, what type of human being are you?
The new policy is targeted at people that issue cheques knowing fully well that they don't have money in their account or that they will not be able to find the account before the maturity of the cheque.
In developed countries, cheque is as good as cash because you dare not issue cheques against unfunded account but here in Nigeria, people see cheque as a professional way of rubbing business partners. They collect goods and give you cheque knowing fully well there is no money in the account.

No you are wrong. It is not about cheque, it is about standing by order.

I will add this for the sake of other people who may read the thread.

To be justified means to be declared righteous(or guitless). The Greek word translated justified is the same word translated righteous.

Nobody got justified until Jesus rose from the dead means nobody became righteous until Jesus rose from the dead.


None of the disciples got born again until Jesus rose from the dead.


The promised Jesus made his disciples were prophetic meaning they are futuristic. The apply not only to them in the future but to all who will in the future believe on him.


During his earthly days Jesus had the power to forgive sins.He utilized that power. Only he at those time could forgive sins apart from God , of course.


When Jesus promised by his disciples mansions, it was futuristic.He knew they will be born again in the future. That promise is for all born again please people.

Kobojunkie:
True that Jesus Christ lost him, Judas, but still false that Judas was not saved. Judas Iscariot was a believer, hence he was saved. He was lost to Jesus Christ because He did not go on to become born again - two different things. According to Jesus Christ, Salvation from the condemnation of sin that is death cannot be revoked.


That ain't true at all, not according to Jesus Christ Himself!

He went around healing the sick, and forgiving people their sins as well. That really got in the craw of the Pharisees/Teachers of the Law of His time who hated Him for thinking He was able to do that.


Again, not according to Jesus Christ either! Ask yourself questions about what justification means. While Jesus Christ walked the earth, He was the Helper/Guide/Comforter/Teacher/Counselor.... everything there was to be to His disciples, who He taught to Baptize, Heal the sick, Raise the dead, cast out demons etc. He taught them everything that those of us who to follow after His death were also to be taught.

Even before the very end of His journey with them, Jesus Christ informed His disciples that He would go, upon His death, to prepare a place for them in His Father's House. If they were not "justified" before His death, why would He promise them a place in His Father's house to booth?

Jesus Christ is the TRUTH of God, and what He says is LAW -- the New Agreement that we are bound by.

These are the words of Jesus Christ as recorded by John the apostle, should we continue to ignore His words? Trying to refute His, Jesus Christ's Words, is akin to admitting one is not even of Jesus Christ.

Now as to becoming born again, I know what your so-called pastors and preachers have taught you all, but unfortunately, they lied to you because they ignored all the teachings of Jesus Christ in declaring that. Becoming born again is akin to becoming born of the Spirit and nowhere in Scripture does Jesus Christ say that Salvation equates to being born again, NOWHERE!

You are a very strange kind of Christian, you call the word of God a lie.

The only thing that is worth responding to in all your post above is the fact that Jesus forgave a man his sins before his death.

In case you do not know, there is a difference between forgiving sins and remitting sins. To forgive sin means to pardon sin.To remit sin means to wipe of all records of sins.

In this dispensation, God does not forgive sins of sinners, he remits them when they give their lives to Christ .

Hebrews 9:22 And almost all things are by the law purged with blood; and without shedding of blood is no remission.



On the other hand he forgives Christians who sins.

1 John 1:9 If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins, and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness.



If you don't believe being born again is the same as being saved, that your choice. I don't just believe it, I know it. Accepting Jesus as Lord and personal saviour gets one saved, gets one born again.


I do not have time to go into it, but I can show you from scriptures that there are three types of salvation. Salvation of the spirit (which is the same as being born again), salvation of the soul(which is the same as the renewal of the mind), salvation of the body (which is the same as being transfigured at rapture).


Being born again is same as salvation of the spirit and the process for experiencing it is stated in Roman10: 9,10. If you don't understand this then you need more revelation of God's word. And please stop calling the word of God lie. It is your interpretation of it that is the lie.

Please, I am done talking with you. I don't see any use disputing with a christian who calls God's word and lie.

Kobojunkie:
Why do you folks say such things! What are you afraid of? Judas Iscariot was saved - He believed in Jesus Christ and he at least ate the last supper meaning he, in fact, did all that Jesus Christ said we all require in order to be saved which is as below...

Like the other disciples, he was chosen and anointed by Jesus Christ, meaning he, Judas, was saved like the others were.

Was Judas Iscariot born again? That is the question that we do not have evidence of, but Judas was indeed saved, since he believed in Jesus Christ, even if he eventually betrayed Him, Jesus Christ.

But Jesus himself said Judas Iscariout was lost



John 17:1 These words spake Jesus, and lifted up his eyes to heaven, and said, Father, the hour is come; glorify thy Son, that thy Son also may glorify thee:

17:2 As thou hast given him power over all flesh, that he should give eternal life to as many as thou hast given him.

17:3 And this is life eternal, that they might know thee the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom thou hast sent.

17:4 I have glorified thee on the earth: I have finished the work which thou gavest me to do.

17:5 And now, O Father, glorify thou me with thine own self with the glory which I had with thee before the world was.

17:6 I have manifested thy name unto the men which thou gavest me out of the world: thine they were, and thou gavest them me; and they have kept thy word.

17:7 Now they have known that all things whatsoever thou hast given me are of thee.

17:8 For I have given unto them the words which thou gavest me; and they have received them, and have known surely that I came out from thee, and they have believed that thou didst send me.

17:9 I pray for them: I pray not for the world, but for them which thou hast given me; for they are thine.

17:10 And all mine are thine, and thine are mine; and I am glorified in them.

17:11 And now I am no more in the world, but these are in the world, and I come to thee. Holy Father, keep through thine own name those whom thou hast given me, that they may be one, as we are.

17:12 While I was with them in the world, I kept them in thy name: those that thou gavest me I have kept, and none of them is lost, but the son of perdition; that the scripture might be fulfilled.


Nobody had his sins remitted until after Jesus died.

Hebrews 9:22 And almost all things are by the law purged with blood; and without shedding of blood is no remission.





Nobody was justified until Jesus rose up from the dead.

Romans 4:25 Who was delivered for our offences, and was raised again for our justification.



This is the scriptural way to get saved.

Romans 10:9 That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved. [/b]10:10 For with the heart man believeth unto righteousness; [b]and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation.


To be saved here means to be born again.

friezerna:
Please help!! how do I genuinely give my life to Christ. I know the truth.
please help me

Romans 10:9 That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved.

10:10 For with the heart man believeth unto righteousness; and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation.


To give your life to Christ genuinely what you must confess with your mouth Jesus as your Lord and believe in your that God rose him from the dead on your behalf.

Say the following prayer sincerely and your life would be given to Christ :

"I confess with my mouth that Jesus is my Lord, I believe that God raised him from the dead on my behalf.

If you have said the prayer your life is now given to Christ.You are now born again.

Congratulations!

Yampotatocarrot:


So they leave them there till rescue boat comes

Probably so. Since they all have life buoy, they are unlikely to get drowned.

Yampotatocarrot:


So they leave them there till rescue boat comes

Probably so.

Yampotatocarrot:


So them need swim before helping? Na to just accept one or two persons for their boat na

Well, if you believe videoing was the best thing to do, no problem

If they try to help them get on board their boat, there own boat too may capsize.

MaxInDHouse:


It means you don't understand what the Bible is saying regarding the new heavens and new earth as Revelations 21:1 say God is creating a new heaven and earth and the sea is no more.
Isaiah revealed that the sea doesn't mean literal water where fishes live, definitely the heavens and earth means something else!

You Jehovah witnesses are in grave error but you don't know it. If you read them in context to you will discover that nonethose scriptures I gave are symobolic. They are all meant to be taken literally.

I am done talking with you.

Janosky:


Is Isaiah 57:20 not in your Bible?
Bros read and study your Bible and stop listening to pastpreneurs

Isaiah 57:20 But the wicked are like the troubled sea, when it cannot rest, whose waters cast up mire and dirt.


What has the above scripture got to do with the issue on ground. That was how the other follow listed scriptures that are not relevant to the issue on ground.

shadeyinka:

Point of correction. You should say "I agree with the scriptures that we will live forever on earth as the Scripture teaches.." Of course, it's a new heaven and a new earth. The Scripture didn't say we won't be able to go to heaven either, for we'll possess a glorified body which like Christ's after resurrection can move from earth directly to heaven.

Thanks for the correction but note that every christian who dies before the rapture will go to heaven as bodyless spirits.(Hebrew 12:23) At the rapture they all will receive glorified human bodies.Christians who are alive during the rapture will also have their bodies transformed to a glorified one. We all will live forever with God in the new earth.The new earth will not need sun or moon light because the glory of God will be the source of it's light.

MaxInDHouse:


The NEW heaven and earth are not literal!

According to the promises of God the earth will remain forever {Genesis 8:21-22 compare to Psalms 78:69, 104:5, 119:90; Ecclesiastes 1:4}
Note how Revelations 21:1 presented the riddle "And i saw a new heaven and a new earth; for the former heavens and the former earth have passed away and the sea is no more"

"the sea" there connotes crooked minded, and devious individuals who don't want any specific code of conduct to be upheld, so God's word says they're tossed about like the waves of the sea! Isaiah 57:20

So whenever we read anything that sounds different from God's original purpose in the beginning later in the scriptures, we know that it's part of those things God promised to say in symbolic terms so only the wise will decipher. Daniel 12:10

If you wish to know the interpretation of the symbolic heaven and earth you can contact any of JWs in your neighbourhood, my brothers and sisters will feel obliged to help you!

Johovah witnesses are a joke. Every scripture is symbolic to them even it it obvious to all that they are not

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Contrary to what the Bible teaches. The earth is going for remain forever. (Psalm 78:69, 104:5, Ecclesiastes 1:4)


Context isn't to be ignored. Peter drew an analogy with the Flood in Noah's day.
He said that the world(human society) of that time suffered destruction by water. (2Peter 3:5-6)
In verse 7, Peter says But by the same word i.e. in like manner, the heavens(governments) and earth(wicked human society) that exist presently are reserved for fire.
Fire being a symbol of destruction symbolizes total annihilation of the ungodly people.



Peter and John were speaking in symbolic terms. The “heavens” represents the ruling class, a government presiding over a set of people.
The “earth” symbolizes the human society.

To further buttress this point, at Ephesians 6:11-12, Paul mentioned that Satan and the demonic forces were exercising their authority from “heavenly places” That is, Satan has in his power, the governments of the world that rule over this present “earth” or human society. It's an established Biblical fact that the whole world presently is being controlled by Satan and his demons.(John 12:31, 1John 5:19, Revelation 12:9)

Also, Genesis 11:1 says that “all the earth[the human society] continued to be of one language”.
You can't mistake Genesis 11:1 to mean that the literal ground/literal earth spoke a language. Rather from context, it clearly shows that “earth” is referring to a set of people.

If you wish to know what the “new heavens and new earth” stand for, please use this link: https://www.jw.org/en/library/magazines/w20060515/Gods-Purpose-for-the-Earth-Soon-to-Be-Fulfilled/
It's a relatively short read.




It is commendable that you accept the view of Jehovah's Witnesses according the Bible.
Humans are indeed meant to live forever on earth, but according to the Bible, there are certain criteria one must pass first.
To have everlasting life on earth, one MUST take in knowledge about Jehovah God and Jesus Christ and align himself with Bible standards.(John 17:3)
There is no provision for observers and spectators.
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Johovah witnesses are a joke. Every scripture is symbolic to them even it it obvious to all that it is not

DappaD:


I'll give this reply to you because you seem reasonable.
Job didn't and isn't going to see God literally. It's just like it was written that Jacob and Moses saw God “face to face” (Genesis 32:30, Exodus 33:11) but in reality, it was an angel of the true God who they saw and manifestations of divine power. (Genesis 32:24, Exodus 19:16)
The same way too, Job isn't saying he will see God literally, rather he saw the expression of God's power when He answered him(Job) out of the windstorm(Job 38:1)

Jesus also said that apart from him, no man had ever ascended into heaven before. (John 3:13)
The way to heaven was opened to faithful ones after Jesus' death, when God's holy spirit came upon 120 disciples first, and anointed them as joint heirs/rulers with Christ.(Acts 2:1-10)

Really, when you think about it, the teaching that everybody will go to heaven is a really absurd one, because when God created the earth, he made it man's home(Genesis 2:15)
He gave the earth to humans to tend for it and inhabit it(Psalm 115:16)
He never said the earth was a “testing ground” as false religionists would have it.
His decision for humans to occupy the earth has not changed.(Isaiah 45:18) because the earth will remain forever, never to be destroyed(Psalm 78:69, Ecclesiastes 1:4)


It's only a select few, starting with those 120 Christians in the first century, the apostles Peter, John, Paul, Timothy and many others that will go to heaven as joint heirs/rulers with Jesus Christ(Romans 8:17, 2Timothy 2:12)
Even some in our day are anointed as corulers of Jesus but they aren't the people you think them to be.
This number going to heaven is limited to a “little flock” numbering a total of 144,000. They are bought from among mankind. (Please read Luke 12:32, Revelation 7:4-8, 14:1-4)
These ones are to serve as kings and priests to God in heaven(Revelation 1:6), judge the world(1Corinthians 6:2, Revelation 20:4) and will rule over the earth . (Revelation 5:9-10)

So you see, most people who shout and shout that they're going to heaven don't know squat about what they're going to do there from the Bible(if they're ever to go there, which is impossible)

I know all of these might be too much, but you can continue from here with any of Jehovah's Witnesses in your area or visit JW.ORG for more info.

The earth will not last forever.It will be changed by being destroyed and a new one created.


2 Peter 3:10 But the day of the Lord will come as a thief in the night; in the which the heavens shall pass away with a great noise, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat, the earth also and the works that are therein shall be burned up. 3:11 Seeing then that all these things shall be dissolved, what manner of persons ought ye to be in all holy conversation and godliness, 3:12 Looking for and hasting unto the coming of the day of God, wherein the heavens being on fire shall be dissolved, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat? 3:13 Nevertheless we, according to his promise, look for new heavens and a new earth, wherein dwelleth righteousness.



Hebrews 1:10 And, Thou, Lord, in the beginning hast laid the foundation of the earth; and the heavens are the works of thine hands: 1:11 They shall perish; but thou remainest; and they all shall wax old as doth a garment; 1:12 And as a vesture shalt thou fold them up, and they shall be changed: but thou art the same, and thy years shall not fail.


Revelation 21:1 And I saw a new heaven and a new earth: for the first heaven and the first earth were passed away; and there was no more sea.

MODIFIED:

I agree with Jehova witnesses that we will live forever on Earth, only that it is not this present one ,which will be destroyed, but a new one which will be created by God.

akan102:


The question is why can't he hold a leadership position?

Because marrying one wife is God's perfect will for man. He is not in God's perfect will. He is not a good role model.

Sammiegreg:
There is nothing like once saved always saved. This is a false belief and remember Judas Iscariot. Confess and repent.

Judas Iscariout was never saved.He was much like an old testament saint.

Nobody God saved until after Jesus finishes the work of redemption by resurrecting again from the dead. Judas Died long before Jesus ressurrected.

TruthHurts100:
You said if I confess my sins and accept the lord as my personal savior that I'm born again.

Please ooo, what if I sin again? Will my first born again status still be valid or I will need another one?

1 John 1:9 If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins, and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness.

If you fall into sin after being born again, all you need do is to confess that sin. God will forgive you.

Forgiveness of sins is for those who are already born again. Remission of sins is for those who intend to get born again. To remit means to wipe clean all records.

The important thing to know is that you get born again once and for all. Committing sin does not terminate you new life in christ.


Pls this is not an excuse for you to sin. Sin causes a break in fellowship with God but not a break in relationship with God. The father-son relationship remains intact but the harmony of the relationship may be broken.
You should not live in sin. Living in sin will hinder you from fulfilling God's purpose for your life.

Brachaa:



Wrong!

A christian is not permitted to marry more than one wife. The Bible says,
"A man shall live his mother and father and be cleaved to his wife (not wives ) and they two ( not three) shall become one".

He is not wrong.
Your assertion if for those who are already born again Christians before getting married. If the person already has more than one wife before giving his life to Christ, he can retain them but he cannever occupy any leadership position in the church 1Timothy 3;1-13

gbowoade85142:
He'll send the variety two away and retain the prior legally married person if she desire to abide with him.Keeping all three seasons adultry.so they haveto be discharged but it should be done amicably.

No, he doesn't need to send them away. He keep them ,but he cannot hold any leadership position in the church 1Timothy 3: 1-13

Karanka:

In other words,all of them who had this revelation chose to die rather than staying alive to serve as proof to the future generation that it was indeed possible. Alright.

I chose to be positive about them.

Jesus already foretold how Peter would die.

At his meeting Jesus, Paul was told he would suffer for the Gospel. He definitely would choose to die


The word of God is there for everyone to study and get the truth from.


I am very excited to tell you that there right now exist an army of people who will stay alive for the future generations to see that Jesus already tasted death for all men.

thesicilian:

Are you talking about spiritual or physical, natural death? I can understand if you're talking about spiritual death, but if you actually meant natural death, I will beg to differ. Death is a stage that no man can bypass, except by divine intervention, not necessarily because one is a Christian or born again

That's the point! There already exist a divine intervention that we can tap into.

Karanka:
OP,could you explain why non of the many disciples and apostles of Jesus and any other known early Christian is still alive till today? Did they all choose to die or never knew this your 'revelation'?

The glories of heaven are great. Why stay in this corrupt world when you can enter into glory?

I already gave an example of Paul who chose to die because to him death is gain.


Heaven is not our final destination. Heaven is just a waiting room for people who die in Christ. People in heaven do not have bodies. They will receive a new body at rapture.

The final destination is the new earth where we will live forever in glorified human bodies.

If you have been blessed kindly drop a comment to keep the thread afloat so that others can read and get blessed.

That's it. How to stay indefinitely alive.

HOW TO STAY INDEFINITELY ALIVE

1.Understand that death is a spirit

Death is a spirit.lf the spirit called death does not kill you, you will never die.

Revelation 6:8 And I looked, and behold a pale horse: and his name that sat on him was Death, and Hell followed with him. And power was given unto them over the fourth part of the earth, to kill with sword, and with hunger, and with death, and with the beasts of the earth.

The above scripture said Death went about killing people with death.

Once a person is marked for death, Death eventually kills him using one or more possible avenues.

If you confess death with your lips you mark yourself for death.

Do you remember how all of the first born in Egypt we're once marked for death?



Revelation 9:6 And in those days shall men seek death, and shall not find it; and shall desire to die, and death shall flee from them.

The above scripture tells of how it will be impossible for people to die at sometime during the great tribulation inspite of their desire to die because the spirit death was not allowed to kill them.



2. Understand that death is your servant

1 Corinthians 3:21 Therefore let no man glory in men. For all things are yours; 3:22 Whether Paul, or Apollos, or Cephas, or the world, or life, or death, or things present, or things to come; all are yours;


The above scripture point out that Death is meant to minister to you or serve you. You should die only when you choose to. And of you choose not to, so be it. Death should take orders from you. You should not be terrified of it



3. Understand that God's power can keep you fit and alive as long as you want.



Psalms 91:16 With long life will I satisfy him, and shew him my salvation.

The above scripture says you determine how long you live. It is until you are satisfied. God's power will work until you are satisfied.


The following are examples of people who God's power kept fit and alive.

(a) Abraham
This was a man who could not have an erction because of aging (Romans 4:19). He ended up later fathering over five additional children from an additional wife and concubines. (Genesis 25:1-6).

(b) Moses
Bible says that at one hundred and twenty years his eyes were not dim neither we're his sexual powers abated. (Deuteronomy 34:7).

(c)Caleb
The Bible says that at about eighty years he was still strong enough for war.




4. Understand how to counter ageing

Scientist have found out that ageing is coded in the human body's DNA. This means the human body is destined to wear out and pack up. How does a Christian stop this? There are two basic ways to counter ageing.

(a) Eternal Life


Romans 6:23 For the wages of sin is death; but the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord.

Here, we see scriptures contrasting death and eternal life telling us that the antidote for death is eternal life.

Eternal Life is the life of God. Every child of God has eternal life.

1 John 5:13 These things have I written unto you that believe on the name of the Son of God; that ye may know that ye have eternal life, and that ye may believe on the name of the Son of God.

Confess often and often that you have Eternal Life and that that life is at work in your body countering ageing and keeping you fit and healthy.


(b) The indwelling Holy Spirit


Romans 8:11 But if the Spirit of him that raised up Jesus from the dead dwell in you, he that raised up Christ from the dead shall also quicken your mortal bodies by his Spirit that dwelleth in you.


Here scriptures state that your mortal body can be kept alive by the indwelling Holy Spirit.

Confess often and often that the indwelling Holy Spirit constantly gives life to your mortal body and that your body is sustained by him.