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^^^^not even to Satan
Colossians 1:12-13
12 Giving thanks unto the Father, which hath made us meet to be partakers of the inheritance of the saints in light:
13 Who hath delivered us from the power of darkness, and hath translated[ us] into the kingdom of his dear Son:

^^^^
Romans 8:2
2 For the law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus hath made me free from the law of sin and death.

Ogaga4Luv:
Satan is always there for us, but as we progress, he expects us to handle things, as we are able to, for ourselves, using our own powers. Christianity and its cohorts deliberately make cripples out of people. Christians forever rave about how their Nazarene has healed people. These people remain as slaves because they are never taught how to, nor are they required to heal themselves or others. The Nazarene archetype stands for slavery, servitude, and enduring endless abuse in order to program humanity to be the perfect slaves in a new world order. The Nazarene places total emphasis on the "afterlife" in order to create the mindset that the life we are now living does not matter. This frame of mind is essential for enduring all kinds of abuse for the benefit of a few.

Which one; the one that comes ONLY to steal, kill, and distroy?
the christian is not a slave of or to anything
Romans 8:2
2 For the law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus hath made me free from the law of sin and death. et that the life we are now living does not matter. This frame of mind is essential for enduring all kinds of abuse for the benefit of a few.
[quote][/quote]Which one; the one that comes ONLY to steal, kill, and distroy?
the christian is not a slave of or to anything
Romans 8:2
2 For the law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus hath made me free from the law of sin and death.

Satan cannot creat because he doesnt have enough sense to creat he only perverts what has been already created to project his devious agenda.
John 10:10
10 The thief cometh not, but for to steal, and to kill, and to destroy: I am come that they might have life, and that they might have[ it] more abundantly.

13 Who hath delivered us from the power of darkness, and hath translated[ us] into the kingdom of his dear Son:
15 Who is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn of every creature:
16 For by him were all things created, that are in heaven, and that are in earth, visible and invisible, whether[ they be] thrones, or dominions, or principalities, or powers: all things were created by him, and for him:
17 And he is before all things, and by him all things consist.

@ogaga4luv
"1. Satan is our True Creator God"
Satan has never created anything he himself is infact a created being by Jesus Christ who is the express image of the invisible God
12 Giving thanks unto the Father, which hath made us meet to be partakers of the inheritance of the saints in light:

what is your conviction becos it didnt mater what you think or say God loves you thats why you are still breathing but a day will come when you'll find out the truth about His love and well you should have embraced it may it not be late for you my friend.
". . . for everything under the Sun there is a time and à season. . ."

Joagbaje:
@newmi

I don't know if i get you well. Emotions are neutra in themselves, but the use and expression of them is what determines right or wrong. Anger is not bad in itself. But how you and what use use it for determines morality.

Ephesians 4:26
26 Be ye angry, and sin not: let not the sun go down upon your wrath:

sure you got my point émotion in itself isn't evil or good itself is neutral but you see in its neutrality it does not know know how to measure what is right or wrong that explains why à man out anger will slap his wife and regretfully blame it on thé devil if only he had held himself in-discipline in thé form of restrain all of the regrets would have been avoided.

Biox:
@newmi
Interesting post, depending on a person the said topic could be two sided,but all the same this is interesting it's worth looking into.

tanx

thats why l pray for those who claim that they mere mortals are intelligent enough to conclude that there is no God trust me their end is terrible and pathetic.

Romans 1:20
20 For the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made,[ even] his eternal power and Godhead; so that they are without excuse:

God has never left us in doubt as regards the truth about His existence, throughout history Hé has left us with signs and pointers so that we would be without excuse thats why l pray for those who claim that they mere mortals are intelligent enough to conclude that there is no God trust me their end is terrible and pathetic.
Romans 1:19-20
19 Because that which may be known of God is manifest in them; for God hath shewed[ it] unto them.

Romans 4:5
5 But to him that worketh not, but believeth on him that justifieth the ungodly, his faith is counted for righteousness.
24 But for us also, to whom it shall be imputed, if we believe on him that raised up Jesus our Lord from the dead;
25 Who was delivered for our offences, and was raised again for our justification.
if you think that you so bad God is angry with  you well think again because you are just bad enough to deserve God's love.

all you need to do is to call upon His name.
Romans 10:13
13 For whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved.

[quote author=tpia@ link=topic=719847.msg8793799#msg8793799 date=1311696250]in an ideal world, emotions are subject to reason. In the actual world, they're not.

laws exist because there's a need to address the imbalance which is often inevitable.[/quote]when reason is submerged in émotions most times regrets is the obvious outcome at that point thats when you start hearing things like: it was the devil who made me do such and such. . . when reason fails to tame emotion discipline is the only way out.

Azibalua:
I think the word love is a verb

Ethmologically it could be regarded as a noun but love in its noun state does not communicate any benefit one can only benefit from it when it assumes its verb form.

@IYA NGBALI
But l don't understand the role of the picture you included because it does not seem to communicate any correlation with your topic. You see in communications every graphic design, letter, font, colour must all be geared towards succesfully communicating the intended and desired message

John 3:5
"Jesus answered, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born of water and[ of] the Spirit, he cannot enter into the kingdom of God".

Then the bible tells how to get born again
Romans 10:9-10
9 That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved.

@poster
The bible tells us how
John 3:3
"Jesus answered and said unto him, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born again, he cannot see the kingdom of God".

The tells us that there is

@jbx
Could l ask you question

jbx:
Newmi,after the prayer they asked us to sit at one side,then a brother came with a pcs of paper,he asked us our names,what u were suffery from and how long it's been.Imdately he went straight to the alter and gave it to the pastor next thing we heard was announcement and they never give us a chance to say a word.It would be embarrasing to snatch the mic from the pastor,so we lock up.

Your case is pathetic, l have known CEC for good while and it is (sorry to say) unlikely for such to take place

Romans 13:10
10 Love worketh no ill to his neighbour: therefore love[ is] the fulfilling of the law.
You know dear friend l have thought and meditated on this matter time and time again these are the TRUTHS THAT I HAVE FOUND OUT. WE LOVE IN THE FACE OF OFFENCES PRIMARILY FOR OUR OWN PERSONAL BENEFIT SO IT DOESN'T MATTER WHETHER OR NOT THEY DESERVE IT FOR MY OWN GOOD I AM CONDEMNED TO LOVE THOUGH ALMOST AWAYS IT COULD BE PAINFUL IB THE FLESH ESPECIALLY WHEN COMES FROM A CLOSE ONE

2. We love as a prove that we are in God and He is in us 1 John 4:16
"And we have known and believed the love that God hath to us. God is love; and he that dwelleth in love dwelleth in God, and God in him"
So you see one is only doing himself good choosing rather to love

@biox
The living bible calls "offence" in Matt 18:7 " inevitable temptation to do wrong"
Now a temptation in itself is not wrong when it comes to us but it becomes wrong when we fall in the direction of its purpose.
1. God is love
1 John 4:8
"But if a person isn't loving and kind, it shows that he doesn't know God-- for God is love" Then in 1 John 4:4 the bible says that ". . . Ye are OF God, little children. . ." (Grk. word translated "of" is the word "ek"- which is a primary preposition denoting origin, the point whence action or motion proceeds from or out) meaning that as christians we hail and originate from God hitherto we are refered to or we refer to ourselves as "children of God". Now children of God then it is only normal that love is our one-way traffic.

2. We love as a prove that we are in God and He is in us 1 John 4:16
"And we have known and believed the love that God hath to us. God is love; and he that dwelleth in love dwelleth in God, and God in him"
So you see one is only doing himself good choosing rather to love

Biox:
@newmi I strongly agree with you that the dept we owe everyone is love.what happens to man that hurts you so much and all you think of is strangling the life out of him do you mean I still owe him the dept of love despite his actions.please I don't mind scriptural back up

My dear biox it is a settled fact that as long as there is day and night and the sun and moon alternate their gallant processional emergance; there will be occassions of/for offence, even Jesus Christ acknowledged this fact
Matthew 18:7
7 Woe unto the world because of offences! for it must needs be that offences come; but woe to that man by whom the offence cometh!

Romans 3:27
"Where[ is] boasting then? It is excluded. By what law? of works? Nay: but by the law of faith"
You see l always like to make people know that my life is a celebration of God's grace and l aways want to know: what can God do through/with me. IT IS A LEARNING PROCESS

Ephesians 3:20
20 Now unto him that is able to do exceeding abundantly above all that we ask or think, according to the power that worketh in us,

I love the amplified translation
Ephesians 3:20
20 Now to Him Who, by( in consequence of) the[ action of His] power that is at work within us, is able to[ carry out His purpose and] do superabundantly, far over and above all that we[ dare] ask or think[ infinitely beyond our highest prayers, desires, thoughts, hopes, or dreams] --

Romans 3:27
"Where[ is] boasting then? It is excluded. By what law? of works? Nay: but by the law of faith"
You see l always like to make people know that my life is a celebration of God's grace and l aways want to know: what can God do through/with me. IT IS A LEARNING PROCESS

Ephesians 3:20
20 Now unto him that is able to do exceeding abundantly above all that we ask or think, according to the power that worketh in us,

Emotion does not know morality neither does it understand "right" or "wrong" it requires self-discipline for it to recognize the limits.
What do you think about these thoughts

KunleOshob:
It is spelled 'debt' and not 'dept' pastor olodo

at least l am comforted by fact that you got my point. muchas gracias mi Amigo

@ @ @

I can tell but for starters, allow me to knidly ask: of what relevance would this translate as far as this thread is concerned?
If thou canst tell and convince l then shall l tell thee. Thank

Secondly, without any attempt to discredit your claims, l have reasons to doubt your claims because
1. If they really did call your name as one healed, it wasn't in your absence
2. the names collected are names of those who have testimonies of healing
3. when these names are called the individual in question steps out and confirms the testimony as he or she give details.

so my question is where were you when all these things were happening?