₦airaland Forum

olabowale:
Nezan, ask Sleek29 to help you on the Former Comforter and then he can participate in the Another Comforter!

I have been answering your questions while you have not answered mine. Speak out on the Satanic Verses, man

olabowale:
@Nezan: Ha ha ha ha ha! Ad you have not told us who the Former COMFORTER was!

Are you dat dumb? it is the Holy Spirit all the way

Ndipe:
Why cant a lady sponsor her wedding, I mean, it's her own wedding also. What if she is richer than the man?

Dem wan know?

Make dem allow Okiro rest for im retirement, na

okokomeji:
Trust me, you can win me on Ife issues. I might think you are a novice on that topic.

You never told me your people want Wole Soyinka and Obasanjo because they are Egbas?
This is what I got from Igbo quack scientist Philips Emeaguali. If you want to doubt that, tell me what he has discovered (and don't tell me computer super super ooooo). A lot of Igbo guys debunked him and it's true what they alleged him for! I will only give you Obasanjo a.k.a. incestuous gorrila (he seems like your blood) but not my precious Prof Wole Soyinka.

http://emeagwali.com/letters/dear-professor-emeagwali-onye-igbo-ka-nbu.htm


Ishaq D. Al-Sulaimani
Vernon (Alufiel) Grier, Ed.D

THE GREATER IGBO NATION-- IDENTIFYING IGBO VARIANTS DURING THE ERA OF THE SLAVE TRADE


[b]THE EGBA ARE IGBO
Southwest Nigeria is commonly referred to as “Yorubaland” which is home to a mosaic of distinct tribes and tribal states who collectively form the present day Yoruba tribal identity, however the original Yoruba designation exclusively referred to the Oyo, a tribe who at one time lived amongst the Hausas in what is presently Northern Nigeria. [/b] In fact the word Yoruba is of Hausa origins.
Misrepresentations of Nigeria the Facts and the Figures by Yusef Bala Usman, PhD – Center for Democratic Development, Research and Training.
“The fact is that the earliest record we have of the use of the very name Yoruba was in the Hausa Language and it seems to have applied to the people of the Alfinate Oyo. Don Masani wrote a book on the Muslim scholars of the Yarriba.”
Over the centuries the Oyo were gradually driven southward where they in turn became the conquerors of the indigenous people of “Southwest Nigeria” who like their Southeastern counterparts were referred to as the Igbo. The Southwestern Igbo were protected by an army of masked warriors known as the Egbo or Egba. Olumida Lucas states that the name Egba is synonymous with Igbo. The Indigenous Igbo(Egba) lived in the forest area surrounding Ife. The name Ife derives from an Igbo system of “divination” called Ifa. It was at Ife that the Igbo(Egba) were first confronted by Odudwa who along with his youngest son Oranyan are remembered as the founders of the Oyo(Yoruba) Kingdom at Ife. At the time of Odudwa’s invasion the indigenous Igbo(Egba) resided under the leadership of Obatala whose name means the Oba or Obi Ala. Obi or Oba was initially an Igbo title of authority and Ala is the land deity of the Igbo. Amongst the Egbo tribes of Calabar the Oba appears in the form of the deity Obassi who is also called Abassi. It's a complete hoax. Like the indigenous forest dwelling Igbos, the present day Egbas are historically associated with the Obas. In fact the name of the Egba ruling council known as the Ogboni relates to the Igbo word Ogbonna which indirectly refers to an elder.

The Wikipedia Encyclopedia – “Yoruba”
“The numerous Egba communities found in the forests below Oyo’s Savannah region were a notable example of elected Obas though the Ogboni, a legislative judicial council of notable elders wielded the actual political power.”
(The Ogboni “Cult” played a central role in the Brazil slave rebellion of 1809.)
In their initial encounters the Oyo(Yoruba) were unable to penetrate the frightening Egba(Igbo) as these intimidating masked forest dwellers mastered the art of instilling fear into their opponents. In defense of their homeland the Egba(Igbo) went further in raiding and burning down the intruding Oyo(Yoruba) settlements in the town at Ife.
The Egba were first defeated through the scheming of a woman named Moremi who allowed herself to be captured as she used her beauty to seduce the Igbo(Egba) King into revealing the secrets of the masked Egba warriors. She later returned to the Oyo providing her countrymen with the necessary information needed to finally conquer the Igbo(Egba) Kingdom. This defeat of the Igbo(Egba) is celebrated every year at the annual Eid Festival of Ife.
In 1835, the Egba declared themselves to be independent of the Oyo(Yoruba) and in response the Oyo along with the Ijebu drove them out of Ibadan, Ife and other towns north of their present day capital of Abeokuta. As a result of contact between the Ijebu and the Indigenous Igbo the city Ijebu-Igbo was established. The founding of the Egba Kingdom of Abeokuta in 1837 is considered to be the last kingdom to be recognized within the “Yoruba federation of tribes”. By this time the term Yoruba had expanded beyond its original usage in referring to the Oyo and now generally applied to all of the inhabitants of Southwestern Nigeria.
The tradition of the masked Egba(Igbo) warriors is likewise documented in Southeast Nigeria amongst the followers of the Egbo Society of Calabar.

EGBO – A secret society at one time existing as a political bond between various towns especially Eastern Nigeria. – World Book Dictionary A-K 1974.
In 1876, the Scottish Presbyterian missionary Mary Slessor came to Calabar. According to the accountings of Ms. Slessor in the “Igbo” dominated areas a secret society known as Egbo went around in masks and beat people. She claimed to have chased a group of Egbo and tore off a mask. The image of Mary Slessor would later appear on the 10 pound British Monetary note. (The Egbo/Egba warriors seem to have a problem or weakness in defending themselves against foreign women. First Moremi in the west informs her people to burn the masks of the Egba(Igbo) warriors and later in the east Mary Slessor claims to have ripped a mask off of an Egbo man.)
The Egba of Abeokuta worship a deity called the Oro. Oro is a god who resides in a bush. In honor of Oro a sacred ceremony is performed at a secluded spot inside the bush. This ceremony is called Igbo Oro and is very similar to bush ceremonies observed by the Egbo Society of Calabar. There are many similar practices and rituals performed by both the Egba of “Yorubaland” and the Egbo Society of the east. In this regard it is of interest to note the name of the Biafran Officer from Ejagham(Calabar), the formidable Captain Ndom Egba.
Although the concept of Legba varies it began as an ancestral memorial designed to maintain the Egba identity during times of persecution and hardship. Legba is also known as Eshu and relates to the deity Isua which is honored in the Egbo Society as the Master of Ceremonies. Legba was also activated in the New World as a means to counter modern slavery and its attempts to wipe out the Egba identity of the captives. The deity is described in Yoruba mythology as the “Divine trickster” because of his ability to outwit his fellow gods. Evidences of Legba have been documented throughout the Americas in such places as Brazil, Guyana, Trinidad, Haiti and New Orleans under various names such as Lebba, Legba, Elegbara and Liba. It is the Igbo descended Mina tribes such as the Ewe and Fon who are most readily associated with the Legba variant.
The term Elegbara is of great significance because not only does the name appear in the Americas amongst Igbo descended captives meaning the Egba and the Mina tribes, but is also the name of a tribe that lives on the Southern Sudanese, Northern Ugandan border and of whom are likewise related to the Igbos of Nigeria as they are known by the variant of Elegbara being called the Lugbara. When traveling in Uganda I personally met a Lugbara Doctor of Medicine who previously studied alongside of Igbo students from Nigeria. The Lugbara man stated that he could understand much of the Igbo Language which held a great deal in common with his own Lugbara Tongue. Through numerous and prominent cultural and linguistic affinities the Lugbara man was definitely convinced that the Lugbara and the Igbo are akin.
Similar to the Igbo of the east, the western Igbo descended Egba were always known to be revolutionaries in continual revolt against the Colonial British authorities, European missionaries and their traditional Yoruba enemies being primarily that of the Oyo and Ijebu. In 1929 the Igbo market women of the east led a tax revolt against the Colonial British Government which became known as the Abia Women’s Tax Revolt. The Egba women carried out a similar tax revolt in 1947 known as the Abeokuta Women’s Tax Revolt of Egba Market Women. The Egba market women were led by Fumilayo Ransome Kuti, a teacher and wife of a prominent Egba educationalist. The protest of over 10,000 Egba women caused the governing authorities to abolish taxes on women for several years and the Alake who conspired with the Colonial authorities spent three years in exile in Oshogbo.
Many of the positive social and ethical traits which are often associated with the Igbo are historically documented as being characteristic of the Egba as well. Robert Campbell who along with Martin Robison Delaney signed a pact with Egba leaders for the right of resettlement of African-Americans to “Egbaland” states that the Egba are the most industrious people on the face of the earth. (Burton 1863:101) James Africanus Beale Horton concerning the Egba(Akus) “It must be admitted without question that there are no people on the coast who are so hard working and so long suffering in proportion to what they expect in return.” He also went on to say that the Egba as a race are amongst the most industrious, persevering and hard working people on the coast of Africa. (Horton 1969:149)
In terms of education the Egba like the Igbo are deserving of great acclaim. The first Black-African to receive a Nobel Prize in Literature was an Egba man named Wole Soyinka who like the Igbo actively opposed the Nigerian Government during the Biafran War. Soyinka was detained by agents of the state between 1967 and 1969. In this regard Booker T. Washington whose middle name, Tanifeani, attests to Egba origins should be noted as the founder of the famous Tuskegee Institute.
In Brazil an organized Ibo revolt led to the establishment of the Independent “Ibo Republic” of Palmares which lasted 45 years. Being consistent with “Igbo resistance” Palmares ended in a massive suicide of Ibo warriors who preferred death to capture. The city Ibotirama testifies to a strong Ibo presence in the region, however as in the case of Haiti, Afro-Brazilian culture and religious practices are more readily associated with that of the “Yoruba”(Egba) including the worship of Legba.
Olukwumu is spoken in Brazil and interestingly enough in a few Western Ibo communities such as Anioma, Idumu-ogu, Ubulubu, Ugbodu, Ugboba and Okwumuzu. In fact communities bearing the name Olukwumu(Olukumi) still exist amongst the Western Ibo. Although this dialect cannot be found in the Yoruba heartland it remains in reference as a “lost dialect of the Yoruba Language”. All of the above clearly indicates that many of the captives in Brazil including those who successfully revolted in the establishment of Palmares were of western Ibo origins and like the Egba are being mistakenly classified as Yoruba. In Brazil the Western Ibo were accompanied by a massive importing of Ebos from Angola and Ibos from Mozambique, the latter further accounting for the dominant and preferable Ibo usage amongst the Brazilian captives.
In Cuba the Olukwumu were referred to as the Olukumi, Lukumi or Akumi. The Egba have traditionally resisted identification with the term Yoruba preferring to be called Egbas or Akus. Slaves in Cuba known as the Lukumi or Akumi meaning of the Egba people were well known for suicide resistance which often found them handing from the branches of the Guasima trees. This being very similar to the “Igbo” resisters of Haiti who were likewise remembered for suicide resistance as understood in the Haitian saying, Ebos pend cor a yo, meaning the Ebos hang themselves. The relationship between the names Olukwumu and Olukumi with that of Akumi(Aku or Egba) further solidifies the common origins which link the Western Ibo and the Egba peoples.
The Egba who like the Igbo were originally known as forest dwellers are acknowledged to have been at one time living east of their present day location. The process which led to the vanquished links of brotherhood between the Igbo and the Egba can be characterized by the often strained relations that currently exist between some of the eastern and western Igbo communities of today.
Biafran Nigerian World Message Board-JAN. 6th 2004 Efulefu of Western Kind.
“… lately some misguided Igbo people of Anioma/Ibusa (in short Western Igbo stock), have been making anti-Igbo noises. I read that a group of 419 purporting to represent Anioma and all Western Igbo issued a statement disavowing their Igboness… If you are from Western Igboland and you no longer wish to consider yourself Igbo you have only one option. Pack your damned bags and leave otherwise we are coming!!!”
History not only records the common origins of the Egba and the Igbo but their common destiny as they are identified as two groups most devastated by the slave trade which is expressed in the following;[/b] [b] “The Egba have suffered more than any other nation in West Africa from the depredation of the slave trade.”

Who fit read all this post?

sley4life:
FG shuld return back my money since they have stolen our money 4rm mtel

thinkinman:
I daresay that for once i am very happy that the management of one of my corporate investments did the right thingy. GTbank since last year had complied with the December 31 common year end making them to have a 10month financial year.

visit their investor relations site at www.gtbank.com/ir and compare their 10 month results with other institutions 12, 15 and 18 month results, You'd be smitten, I have always received a higher dividend every year and this year was no different. I would rather invest in a company that has 2 naira and makes 10 naira profit than one that has 5 naira and makes 12naira profit

, Please GTBank management should continue at this pace oooo,

Ha, bankers and advertisements. Na wa-o!!

udezue:
Why didnt OPC do something about this? Yoruba ppl massacred in Jos and they were silent but they want talk shit about MEND coz they know the Hausa north is against MEND. The way these ppl dey SUCK HAUSA COCKS is amazing. Toothless COCK SUCKING dogs.

This is a nasty post, you know,

Warri Boi:
There is nothing like Nigeria what we have is anyhow

I dont undastand wat you mean?

Mr Kelly:
Happily married. Marriage is[b] sweeeeeet[/b].

Its not everything about marriage that is sweet, though.

sleek29:
i think we should give mo some respect here,the guy battled the poisoned for 3years, he thought he could do it alone or that the devil would help him, paul did not even notice he was bitten by a snake not to talk of battling it for 3 years. o ma se ooo, piss be upon him

When you have the strenght to speak up, I will lecture you about "former and another Comforters"; their natures, duties and other matters, both from the remnant of it, still in the Bible and the very simple information, complete and direct from the Quran!

[size=14pt]Ha ha ha, who needs to learn from a book that contains satanic verses? so funny of you [/size]

Then we can come to the Satanic Verses, since that is what you want. I am ready for a mature dialogue, unless you wanna pass on the "former Comforter" because you know nothing about it? Hence I am going to draw inference that you will not know nothing about the "another Comforter", too

[size=14pt]Ha ha ha, you have dodged discussing the satanic verses issue again glibly. Why are you guys so afraid of discussing it?[/size]

And on the "Comforter" issue, you answered nothing! You did not tell me who was the former Comforter. After you do that, we will graduate to the "another" Comforter.

[size=14pt]This is not the thread we are discussing this issue. However, you ought to look through my post on the comforter on the thread we were discussing. The comforter is the Holy spirit. He was, He is, and shall continue to be, not some mortal human beign with a time limit. We christians worship God in the spirit, not on ablution, believing that you are washing your sins [/size]

I am original Nigerian man. You cant tell me anything about young man and young woman, in Nigeria. The relationship is simply sexual. I am sure I did not insult you by my comment, otherwise you will not let it slide!

[size=14pt]I can see you lack manners. You are trying to provoke me, but thank God I have grown pass dat. For your information, I am happily married with children, not some overzealous little boy. Respect my family, man.[/size]

dedeike:
i think we all should concentrate on making it like dangote,than engage in idle gossip.he has made it big and no one can change that.unless you are otedola's apologists.

funny, but true

cooldudeng:
We can't really fault any party for now, until we see a copy of the offer letter and agreement but it's like the bank is just trying to take advantage of AP and make cool spread off them. In fx transactions, there are always exchange risk but this is not a typical fx transaction and the exchange risk shouldn't come to play at all.

hmmmmmmm

chyk91:
imagine, producers have now become the purchasers,God help us.

safoly:
@mightlove.
Thanks very much. I appreciate your comments and hope you use this medium to educate guys and girls on nairaland. I met my wife on nairaland and we are happily married and living fine, The truth is that we all must of submissive to one another and trust one another. Ring wearing to me is a pride and it remember everytin we had in the course of our courtship till today that she is living with me happily. Take care

Wonda4ul. Anoda thumbs up for big bro Seun_{He made the marriage possible}

whiteroses:
my cousins in texas have private jet, their Dad a multi millionaire is indian and met their mum in nigeria on a business trip, he works in oil sector so i gues accountant or doctor can't but oil workers can the jet is for the children like if they feel like flying to newyork on a afternoon to shop and i'm here maneuvering london with my footicycle lol

Marymos:
Well if the lady can sponsor the wedding due to the financial insolvent of the guy at that point in time,there is nothing bad about it but such a guy should be an individual that has a future and prospect if not,she will continue footing bills even after the wedding.Even in law there are exceptions.

And many have done things like this,,,

Must every top cop be stained? I wonder

otukpo:
ABIOLA CANNOT BE EQUATED WITH NELSON MANDELA OF SOUTH AFRICA.

Period,,,,,,,,,,,,,let's not overflog this issue

kok:
Not with the present set of leaders!

The bad thing is that they are not even willing to leave the stage, too bad.

quadrillio:
OH LORD, WE PRAY FOR YOUR GUIDANCE ON WHERE TO PUT OUR MONEY, INFS (I No Fit Shout)

Amen-ooooooooooo

I cant imagine IBB coming out for 2011 again, the guy should just go and rest, shikena!!

Esther was by all means, a very virtuos woman.

MrCrackles:
Another reason why Nigeria should be continuosly labelled a JOKE!

Before nko'?

sleek29:
funny, i know some people witnessed the transfiguration of christ but mo sef the guy has wild imaginations ooo, and i heard he took a flying horse.

Muhsin,

I still have problem with my internet service. I hence barely browse for it costs me much to browse at cafes as I am just a student. Too bad.

Sorry about that, I will remember you in my prayers and my Lord will provide for you

There is one popular saying: a mind sees what it chooses to see. If not because of that very reason you would have understand Islam. . .even better than many Muslims. You seemingly intensively resaerch on it, yet instead of refuting some points Babs or Olabs say, you unknown to you concretize their assertions.

I know Islam and all about the lies, but unlike Olabs and Babs, I decided to renounce them

That aside, let me tell ya sth.: don't, when arguing with Muslims especially any Muslim who has a good understanding of his religion, raise Ayatollah's words or action to back up your claim. I personally don't regard him as a Muslim but Shi'it. Yeah, Shi'it. The thread is not about that, though.

Are Shi'ite not muslims?  Too bad you are now denouncing him

Dont worry about it. Rather forget about it. The qualification required for it you dont have. You are probably chasing after the Abuja women, spending all your salary on trying to get some. Or you let women give you money? I call that prostitution!

[size=14pt]I will allow the insult pass, but neither did I say I was interested in your so called unlimited sex paradise[/size]

Leave the Fatawa of  the Ayatollah and Satanic  verses of rushdie, alone and lets talk about the Comforter business in the other thread. I promise you we will return to satanic erses for sure! Deal? Good

[size=14pt]Why are you people afraid of discussing it?[/size]
[size=14pt]Be fair, I answered your questions on that thread, didn't you check? [/size]

I will come to Ayatollah later on. But I do not want to loose a better conversation with a man who may have had his reasons for what he did about his fatawa! I live in USA, and what they do in Iran has no great impact on me even as much as what they do in Nigeria that I do not live in.

[size=14pt]Why are you dodging to answer this question? funny [/size]

"Comforter" will deal with the advanced stuff; 100% and complete!

[size=14pt]Yes and he did, centuries before mohammed was even born. The Holy Spirit/Comforter is still dwelling within us believers. [/size]