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The unfolding drama looks good. Let's see who blinks first

are we back to the OBJ-Tinubu saga??

otukpo:
Bunch of thieves.
Political prostitutes!

this is Naija

I have always believed that we don't value our independence because we didn't shed blood for it. Period!!

Its pretty funny for a thirty year old to start learning his/her mother tongue. But can't say, because its never too late to try anything

twumie:
Please do anyone have an idea of how to get loan without collateral?

In your dreamz. No body wants to part with his money (whether by loan or otherwise) for nothing.

[b]Now we do have one ancient copy of the Koran written in the Ma'il style of script, that is housed in the British Museum in London (Lings & Safadi 1976:17,20; Gilchrist 1989:16,144). But scholar Martin Lings, who was not only a practicing Muslim, but also a former curator for the manuscripts of the British Museum, dates this manuscript at 790 AD, making it the earliest. On the other hand Yasir Qadhi notes one Islamic Masters/PhD scholar who believes the Samarqand MSS is the ‘most likely candidate for the original’.

It is unknown, even by Muslims that authorities will not release photographs of the ancient Topkapi manuscript in Istanbul and so there are no known studies on it. This is why the Muslim apologist, M. Saifullah had to state "Concerning the Topkapi manuscript we are not aware of studies done it." (Who's Afraid Of Textual Criticism?, M. S. M. Saifullah, 'Abd ar-Rahman Squires & Muhammad Ghoniem) What is in this manuscript that Muslims are afraid to let the world see? After all in Qur'an 2:111 it says "Produce your proof if you are truthful."

Add to this the fact that there is no archeological evidence dated at the time when Muhammad was alive, by way of artifact, manuscript or inscription has ever been found were Muhammad is actually referred to as "a prophet".[/b]


This is an interesting piece.

sleek29:
point of correction abuzola, he came to promise you 72virgins in hell

Ha ha ha_{*make una no kill me wit laff*}

littleb:
@nezanThis is to testify in realities, it is not always religious crisis rather politics using tugs, while cleverly brings it under religious.

Are you sure? because most of the riots starts with religious coloration, like the one in Bauchi where it was alleged it started with the mutilation of the koran.

olabowale:
@Nezan: Ayatollah is no Almighty. There is no Almighty, but One Almighty Allah. And this Allah the Almighty does not die! All those who die, or dead, regardless of their temporary coming back to life, are nothing and never can be Almighty! eath is not an experience for Allah the Almighty, but death is forall others, including death himself! In time, those who woke up from death, if any will die. In time, death will die!

Oh, so Ayatollah is not mighty in the muslim world? But I really wonder why his fatwa on Rushdie was so much recognised in the middle east that Salman had to run and seek for assylum in Europe. Beats my imagination.

davidylan:
an obvious publicity stunt

And the comment about shia: Allah's messenger gave guidelines who is Muslim. You will find the definition of Muslims in Quran. When a person still by name, but by action negates his Shahada, then he can hardly be considered a muslim! A person who says that he is a muslim, but proclaims that salah is not necessary what Islam is that? person who says an action is no more necessary to be a muslim is not a muslim, than you who is a declared kafr!

Funny how you guyz delude yourselves. For every riot in Kano or Kaduna etc, muslims like you are also declared as kafr by the core northerners (I hope you still keep touch with home?).

Who are you to declare the almighty Ayatollah a kafr? Don't you know suicide bombers would swoop on you for saying something like that in the middle east as fast as me who is a kafr?

Why you renounced it, better minds are taking it. Zainab my wife accepted it willingly, after she observed it and saw evidences that convinced her. She is a lawyer and she knows about evidence. She is Igbo and she was not from a muslim enviroment. My mother at her old age became muslim.

Why you coersced your mum to join you (I believe she was not well versed in Christianity), many people have discovered the lie and are leaving islam.

I hope you told Zainab to be expecting your three remaining wives?

What do you know about Islam? I have been muslim over 50something years, and its only less than 13 years ago, to I really begin to understand it! Tell me about Islam and your reason for renouncing it!

If I begin to post my sensational posts on the lies in islam, I trust mukina and Jarus will be deleting all of them instanta. Let's just say even you are aware of the lies but are afraid that people will laugh at you if you leave. Ain't it?

@Olabowale:

Praying in the night (for that is what we also do in night vigils) is quite different from riding flying horses and having sweaty nightmares in the night. Do you see the two as same?

To set the stage for a conversation on the satanic verses. Ten I will respond as much as Allah gives me knowledge. I will wait for your statement of introduction. If you wish, we can start a thread on it. And will stay on the subject without deviating. If I raise the thread, I will simply ask you to start the accusation or allegation or statement of fact according to your undertanding. My job is to proof that noting like that happened. An if it did it proved Muhamma (AS) prophethood, regardless! I will then introduce Jesus. definitely introduce John son of zakariyyah and then Moses.

[size=14pt]Why are you guyz afraid of discussing it on this thread? In all the threads we have discussed this, you merely dance around words, looking for an excuse to run away, funny [/size]

I wonder why olabs and co. are trying desperately to link mohammed to the bible.

The Holy Spirit can never be mohammed because of the following reasons:

John 14:16 — And I will ask the Father and He will give you another Comforter to be with you forever - the Spirit of Truth.

The Comforter will be with these disciples forever. Jesus promised the Comforter would be with these disciples forever. Muhammad could not be the Comforter because he wasn't born until over 500 years later - following the deaths of these disciples. He was born around 570 and died around 632 AD.



John 14:17 — But you know him for he lives with you and will be in you.

The Comforter lives with the disciples already now and will later be 'in' them. The Holy Spirit came to the disciples and indwelt them. Muhammad could not be the Comforter because first he wasn't around at the time when Jesus was speaking to his disciples nor second could he ever be in any of the disciples. The Greek word is 'en', and it means 'right inside'. Jesus is saying that the Comforter will be 'right inside' of the disciples.



John 14:26 — The Comforter is specifically described as the Holy Spirit. The Comforter is not a man. Muhammad could not be the Comforter because he was never the Holy Spirit.



John 14:26 — The Comforter will be sent in Jesus' name. The Holy Spirit represented the Lord on earth. No Muslim believes that Muhammad was sent by God in Jesus name. Muhammad did not come in Jesus' name, as the apostle of Jesus, rather he came in his own name with his own questionable “revelations”.



John 14:26 — But the Comforter, the Holy Spirit whom the Father will send in my name, will teach you all things and will remind you of everything I have said to you."

The Comforter will teach these disciples and remind them of what Christ said to them. As the early Christians grew the Holy Spirit taught them. Muhammad is not the Comforter because he never knew the disciples and he didn't teach these disciples, and Muhammad never reminded the disciples of what Christ said.



John 15:26 — When the Comforter comes, whom I will send to you from the Father, the Spirit of truth who goes out from the Father, he will testify about me.

The Comforter would be sent to these disciples. These disciples received the Holy Spirit on the day of Pentecost. Muhammad was never sent to these disciples.



John 16:13 — But when he, the Spirit of Truth comes, he will guide you into all truth.

The Comforter will guide these disciples into all truth. These disciples (and others) grew in the knowledge of God through the revelations from the Holy Spirit. Muhammad never guided these disciples into any truth.



John 16:13 — He will not speak on his own, he will speak only what he hears, and he will tell you what is yet to come.

The Comforter will speak to these disciples. These disciples grew to know the leading of the Holy Spirit, i.e. they knew His voice. Muhammad never spoke to these disciples.



John 16:14 — He will bring glory to me by taking from what is mine and making it known to you. All that belongs to the Father is mine. That is why I said the Spirit will take from what is mine and make it known to you.

The Comforter will take from Jesus and make it known to the disciples. Muhammad never knew Jesus and never took from Jesus and made it known to anyone.





The context of these passages shows clearly that Muhammad could not be the Comforter. Jesus was not speaking of another person to come at a later date. Jesus’ precious final words to His disciples were meant for them. Jesus was not merely preaching a sermon to be analyzed and intellectually talked about through the centuries, rather, He was giving His the disciples with Him there His final commands, love, and encouragement.



Here's a question for you to consider: In Islamic theology, Muhammad rendered Jesus’ message fulfilled or ended because Muhammad brought God’s latest message to the people. Muhammad expected that true believers in God would accept Islam. Therefore, if Jesus was foretelling Muhammad, wouldn’t Jesus be prophesying that his ministry will be rendered void by the Paraclete? Read the context of the passages and decide.



Further, to fulfill exactly what Jesus foretold concerning the Comforter and His relationship with the disciples, the New Testament records the fulfillment of the coming of the Holy Spirit and the disciples receiving Him. The disciples received the Comforter - the Holy Spirit, on the day of Pentecost in Acts 2:3, 4. The Comforter was now “in” the disciples and He remained “in” them from then on and taught them — just as Jesus had said He would.

Now on the satanic verse, what Ayatollah siad was said by Ayatollah. follow Muhammad (AS) an those who followed him (RA) an those are following him (ra) and the ones who are aive, today in that traition. I will not follwo a man or woman who is not follwoing Muhammad, when he is not, I will stop following him and follow those who are following Muhammad on the specific mater.

[size=14pt]You mean you are now denying Ayatollah? Are you people not reading the same koran? Do you know that the man is a well respected islamic cleric? Do you know that the fatwa he placed on Rushdie was recognised throughout the middle east as legitimate? Do you know Rushdie had to run to Britain to avoid been killed by the same muslim brotherhood? Do you know that the book was banned through out the islamic world? You mean you are now more faithful than your muslim brothers from the middle east? Stop deceiving yourself, Islam is a delusion.[/size]

I real man, slek29 had the courage to approach my inquiry about Former Comforter and another comfoter. Yet you dock it through. I will open a thread of in soon for a healthy conversation.

[size=14pt]Better open it. But the response I gave you about the comforter in the other thread is hanging though. What beats my imagination is why muslims say the bible is corrupt but yet, try to force themselves into the same corrupt bible

Why can't you guys produce the original bible? [/size]

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Let's welcome the latest prospective accused swindler in our midst.

@OP: Why you wan kum back broda?

otukpo:
my brothers prefer nigerian women for wives and besides, i think this thread is a big joke.

Love is suppose to know no boundaries

Are you guyz sure dat de car is still available? So sad that the OP did not bother to post whether it has been sold or not.

pek:
Lagos Youth Tournament

Venue: Teslim Balogun Stadium, Lagos
Teams: Valencia, Supersport Utd, Genoa, Lagos XI
DATE : 1-8 August.

AIM : to test run facilities for the forth coming FIFA U17 cadet championship tagged Nigeria 2009

Any idea of the gate-fee? or is it free?

@OP: Why can't you wait untill they employ you before asking them?

Nigerian cards are not secure enuff.

sleek29:
witches are also summoned at night

Infact, all witches meet at night, and satanic meetings are carried out in the dark. That was why Jesus said light and darkness can never meet.

No more responses?

Abuzola:
Nezan you lack home training, do you realize that you are talking to my father, olabowale. Let me get hold of you men , your wife go cry full bucket

You are too small to threaten me man. Don't you know your brother terrorist fear me?