@davidylan,

davidylan:

pilgrim.1, may the Lord continue to bless the works of your hands. Thanks for taking care of that vain babbler, i just had no time to read through all those empty words.

No worries. I was busy all day only to come see the usual empty games being repeated in his 'thesis', even demanding what he himself refuses to offer. I think its high time that people just serve him his own antics - if he's not willing to discuss, he's not worth the attention he's seeking.

Blessings.

If Davidlyn understand English language he will know that ‘see’ does not mean enter, on the day of judgment Allah (The al-mighty, the al-wise) will bring paradise and hell to the full view of every created son of Adam while he will save the Muslims from entering hell by admitting them (Muslims) into paradise the non Muslims (like Davidlyn if he refuse to repent) will be condemned to hell.
U said quite correctly that we do not worship the same God. In that sense u are very correct because
1. the God of the Muslims dose not have a son ;(John 3:16) this part of your Bible claim that Jesus is the only begotten son of God but only to be contradicted by another verse of the same bible Psalm 2:7 which states that David is also a begotten son of God
2. The God of the Muslims does not have a beginning like your’s John 1:1 (compare Sura 112:1-4)
3. The God of the Muslim cannot be defeated by Jacob in a wrestling match like what your bible described in genesis of your God Gen 32:28 here your God was defeated by Jacob in a fight. Whereas in Quran’ God is one and irresistible (wahidul kahaar)
4. The God of the Muslims is all seeing so does not need to go to the garden looking for Adam. Gen3:8-9
5. The God of the Muslims does not become tired after the creation of the heavens and the earth, and doesn’t have any need to rest.Exo31:17 also Gen 2:2….compare (Surah 50 v 38 verily we created heavens and the earth and what exist them in 6 days and no tiredness affect us)

U claim Jesus died on the cross for your sake if that is true why then did he say Eli Eli la ma sa bach-thani (my lord my lord why have thou forsaken me) while he was on that cross; Matt27:46 also Mark15:34. Why was he crying? Wasn’t he prepared to die for u? Did he forget as at that time that he is about to die for your sin which is his main mission?

Davidlyn claim that the Qur’an was copied from the bible because according to him the bible is the only authentic word of God
Then he should answer the following questions
a Who revealed the contradictory genealogy of Jesus in the bible matt 1:1- 16 (between David and Jesus are 28 ancestors) compare Luk3:23-38(between David and Jesus where 42 ancestors)
b who revealed the following contradictions in your ‘word of God’
1. Who incited Davidlyn to count the fighting men of Israel?
• God did (2 Samuel 24: 1)
• Satan did (I Chronicles 2 1:1)
2. In that count how many fighting men were found in Israel?
• Eight hundred thousand (2 Samuel 24:9)
• One million, one hundred thousand (I Chronicles 21:5)
3. God sent his prophet to threaten Davidlyn with how many years of famine?
• Seven (2 Samuel 24:13)
Three (I Chronicles 21:12)
4. How old was Ahaziah when he began to rule over Jerusalem?
• Twenty-two (2 Kings 8:26)
• Forty-two (2 Chronicles 22:2)
5. When did Davidlyn bring the Ark of the Covenant to Jerusalem? Before defeating the Philistines or after?
• After (2 Samuel 5 and 6)
• Before (I Chronicles 13 and 14)
6. Did Joshua and the Israelites capture Jerusalem?
• Yes (Joshua 10:23, 40)
• No (Joshua 15:63)
7. Who was the father of Joseph, husband of Mary?
• Jacob (Matthew 1:16)
• Hell (Luke 3:23)
In Davidlyn’s claim that the qur’an is a product of plagiarism can he tell us which, among the multiple version of the bible, was used for this purpose ? in the world today we have more than 12 different version of the bible. If he thinks I’m lying then he should verify whether the information below is true or false
(If it is the truth you are really after, then you should not be afraid to look hard at what you believe)
Key:
KJV = King James Version NEB = New English Bible
ATHB =American translation of the HB NASB =New American standard
NWT = New word translation NIV = new international version
RSV = Revised Standard Version AB = Amplified Bible
LB = Living Bible NJB = New Jerusalem Bible
HB = Holy Bible GNB = Good News Bible

Contradictions between the various versions of the bible
1. What was the age of Saul when he began to resign (1 Samuel 13:1)? According to the NEB he was 50 years old. NIV says he was 30 years old AB and NASB say he was 40 years old, while in the KJV, RSV, HB, LB, NWT, NJB and ATHB his age is unknown. The whole verse has been dropped out of the GNB.
2. For how long did Saul reign(1 Sam 13:1)?according to NEB it was 22 years according to KJV, HB,AB, LB, and NWT, it was only 2 years while according to NIV it was 42years. The NASB says it was for 32years. In the RSB, NJB, AND ATHB it is unknown while the whole verseis dropped out of GNB.
3. what creature was crying in the sky (Rev8:13)?according to KJV, it was an angel while according to the NEB,RSV,NIV,HB, LB, NWT, NJB,GNB,AB,NASBand ATHB it was an angel (a bird).
4. What was the age of jehoiachin when he became king(2 Chron 36:9)?according to ATHB,KJV NEB RSV, NASB and LB he was 8years old(which contradict 2king24:8 in this same bibles),while according to the NIV, HB NWT, NGB, AB and the GNB he was 18 years old.
5. How many years of famine in the land of Davidlyn (2sam 24:13)? According to the KJV, HB LB, NWT, AB, NASB and ATHB it was 7years (which contradict 1 chron21:12, in this same bibles).while according to the NEB, RSV, NIV, NJB and GNB it was 3 years.
6. What was the age of Ahaziah when he became king(2chron22:2)?according to KJV, NEB,RSV.NGB,AB and ATHB he was 42 years old(which contradicts 2kings8:26 in this same bibles),while according to NIV, HB, NWT, NASB and GNB he was 22 years old.

VERSES DROPPED OUT OF VARIOUS VERSION OF THE BIBLE
1. Mathew 17:21,Mark15:28and Luke17:36 are present only the KJV,HB, AB, and, LB, and have been dropped out of the NEB, RSV, NIV, NWT, NJB,GNB, and the ATHB, NASB lack Mark15:28 and Luke17:36.
2. Mathew 21:44 is present in the KJV, NIV, HB, LB, NWT, AB, NASB, and ATHB but has been dropped out of the NEB, RSV, NJB and GNB.
3. Mathew23:14 and Acts15:34 are present only KJV and AB have been dropped out the NEB, RSV, NIV, HB, LB, NWT, NJB, GNB and ATHB, NASB, lacks Acts15:34.]
4. Mark 11:26 and Mark 9:44 and 46and present only the KJV, and HB, have been dropped out of the NEB, RSV,NIV, LB, NWT, NJB, GNB, NASB and ATHB. AB, lacks Mark9:44and 46.
5. Luke 22:43 and 44 are present in the KJV, NEB, NIV, HB, LB, AB, NASB, NWT, NJB, GNB and ATHB, but have been dropped out of the RSV.

ORTHER VERSES ON WHICH VARIOUS VERSIONS OF THE BIBLE DIFERS INCLUDE;
Luke10:1 and17 1samuel13:5, ezre8:35, mathew12:47, acts8:37, rom16:24 mathew18:11, mark7:16 John5:4, 2timothy3:16, e.t.c.
In short, which Bible is the holy Bible? No two bibles are identical. If the bible is entirely the word of God, then these contradictions and differences among the bibles could not have been found in them. To consider these differences as insignificant is to imply that God makes mistakes. These and several other mistakes only prove that the bible is not the word of God. The existence of human interference with the bible is clear beyond any doubt (Jer. 8:.
David also claims that the original Qur’an get missing, now we want to let him now that right from the time the qur’an was revealed till now there have been people who put the entire qur’an in memory apart from those that wrote in different materials. So the authenticity of the qur’an is guarantee by two sources of preservation. Today in the world we have more 5,000.00 student of qur’an of less than 7 year who have the entire qur’an in memory, whereas even the Pope doe not have the bible in memory. His own bible has 7 extra book; The Roman Catholic bible has 73 books while the protestant versions all have 66 books. WHICH BIBLE IS THE WORD OF GOD?
In (Jer. 8:. We were told the bible is corrupt .
Don’t be discourage by the length of this article just try and confirm all these facts
Mr online preacher/ righteousness I want answer to all these questions
If u can’t answer them then know that Islam is the only religion Allah will accept; now u will not have any excuse with God since I have told u the truth with evidence. Sura 3:85 ‘He that seek any other religion than lslam it will not be accepted from him and on the day of judgement will be among the losers.’

@Babyosisi

Behold the reincarnated babs

@ skintom77. You are such a dunce. People like you allow the stereotype to persist that islam is not a religion for those who can at least think.
You had to just copy another post word for word and then post here? No originality, no attempt to even reason for urself?

skintom77:

If Davidlyn understand English language he will know that ‘see’ does not mean enter, on the day of judgment Allah (The al-mighty, the al-wise) will bring paradise and hell to the full view of every created son of Adam while he will save the Muslims from entering hell by admitting them (Muslims) into paradise the non Muslims (like Davidlyn if he refuse to repent) will be condemned to hell.

Stop wasting your time;

1. Correct versions of the quran translate verse 71 to read "go down into", "herded into" and not the "see" that hypocrites like you have smuggled in to cover up your contradictions. I'm show you understand that to "see" and "go down into" do not have the same meanings.

2. There is NO repentance nor salvation in islam, it is an alien concept smuggled from the bible to plaster over the quran.

3. Where did you get that politically correct explanation? Did the quran describe such to u? Read those verses more clearly so you can remove the fog over ur evil eyes.

me really get scared by david man he really hate moha-man. d guy go crazi 4 him man. did he dump u man? clik https://www.nairaland.com/nigeria/topic-66080.0.html man and get d test.
be no afraid man. clik and be blessed

@skintom77, what is it really that you and ustaz are trying to convey?

nossycheek:

@Babyosisi

Behold the reincarnated babs

I see am o.

Hey davidylan,

There's no need to defend yourself in this one - afterall, 'allah' has ordained that infidels should be treated harshly, and their necks should be struck off their heads. You shouldn't hate those who obey 'allah'; rather, you should love them, be nice to them, "submit" your neck to 'allah's will, and "submit" your wife/wives as booties to those who fight in 'allah's cause. Surely, 'allah' has explained everything in his religion and made it easy in the way of peace.

Islam means "submission", remember? So, why are you and I protesting against 'allah's will instead of "submitting"? It's about time that we "revert" to allah's will so that he can fulfill his irrevocable decree upon us by hording his beloved to Hell. Don't you want the mercy that allah gives to his slaves - the mercy that makes sure all his slaves are taken to hell (where the likes of another slave of his - oyb - says that the fire will cool down first for us)?

Oya, time to "revert" O! You don't want to keep protesting against the "submission" O! As for me and my house, we shall keep submitting the very truth of Sura 19:71 for all to see!

Meanwhile, @davidylan, this is how best to "submit" O! In case you are wondering how best to please 'allah' ~~

London bomb suspect left suicide note

One of the suspects convicted of trying to blow up London's transport system on July 21, 2005, left a suicide note, prosecutors said.

The letter was written by Ramzi Mohammed, who tried to carry out a suicide bomb attack on an underground train near Oval station in south London. Here is the letter:

"First of all I beg Allah to accept this action from me and he to Allah to whom belongs the power and majesty makes it a sincere one and that he admits me to the highest station in paradise for verily he grants martyrdom to whom ever he wills.

Secondly my family don't cry for but instead rejoice in happiness and love what I have done for the sake of Allah for he loves those who fight in his sake.

I pray to Allah the mighty that he keeps your heart sealed to this religion. My family practice your religion and hold tight to the rope of Allah and don't let go. Pray your five daily prayers so that you may be saved from hell and by the permission of Allah I may intercede for you, if he Allah allows to whom belongs the power and the majesty.

My children be good Muslims and obey your mother. Pray your prayers and read Quran. Adam look after your little brother Malik and we shall meet again in paradise god willing. May Allah keep your mothers heart sealed to this religion. Praise be upon you. Gods blessing and mercy."

Ramzi Mohammed.


The 'religion of peace' is easy O! No need for the complications and misinterpretations. One bombing suicide a day pleases allah. What are we waiting for?

stimulus:

The 'religion of peace' is easy O! No need for the complications and misinterpretations. One bombing suicide a day pleases allah. What are we waiting for?

Nothing insha Allah. Bombing, Bombing all the way, until there are no more places to bomb.

Salaam Brother

nossycheek:

Nothing insha Allah. Bombing, Bombing all the way, until there are no more places to bomb.

Salaam Brother

there is no better way to live in peace with your neighbour than to bomb him.

Davidlyn why was your Lord and personal saviour crying on the cross? answer all the question raised about ur Bible, but instead u went just blah blah.

ustaz:

Davidlyn why was your Lord and personal saviour crying on the cross? answer all the question raised about your Bible, but instead u went just blah blah.

the usual escapist "questions". Weather-beaten, over-recycled and thrashed out once too many times, used as a trump card by desperate muslims who have no credible answers to the contradictions that stare them in the face!

@ustaz,

ustaz:

Davidlyn why was your Lord and personal saviour crying on the cross? answer all the question raised about your Bible, but instead u went just blah blah.

Would you stop snivelling like a lazy-about and face up to why Allah wants to take you to HELL Fire (Sura 19:71)? That Jesus cried out as in Matt. 27:46 doesn't mean He was sobbing or weeping; unless you want to convince us that Muhammad was being sent to illiterate folks like you (afterall, one of yours has called him an illiterate prophet).

Ah hell is the grave eh?
What then did allah mean in Sura 19:72? -

[19:72] Then we rescue the righteous, and leave the transgressors in it, humiliated.

Did allah mean he would leave transgressors to be "humiliated" in the grave? Since there is no life in the grave how then can a lifeless being suffer "humiliation"?


Davidylan,

I had to join this forum just cos of your posts. I'm sorry to say but Most christians, if not all, are fond of quoting incomplete texts from the Holy Quran. Disrespect Islam as much as u wish, the truth still remains and cant be erased. U would understand Islam better if only you would read and understand the Holy Quran with an unbiased mind. Especially the chapter from which you quote the so called hate verses. No one is trying to blank your mind from the truth but you are simply refusing to see the truth yourself. Ask yourself or your superiors in the church why the original version of the bible was kept a secret or why it was changed. Do your research and take your time time to read the original version(undiluted if u are patient enough to search for it.)
Have you ever wondered why every sect of christianity have one or more similarities to Islam? This is simply because Islam is a complete religion and indeed a complete way of life. Being abusive and angry with another religion is not a way of preaching or proving to yourself that you are in the right path. if indeed you believe you are in the right path, is that how you were schooled to convert people? You dont convert or try to convince people by condeming what they believe in. 'Quran 109, V1-6 said it all. I wont worship wat u worship and u wont worship wat i worship. You have ur religion and i have mine.
Please respect your religion and let me respect mine. This is not a forum for veting anger. The Allah that you mock will judge us Himself. And for your information, Allah is simply the arabic word for God. so mock Him all you wish, everyone is accountable for his own deeds.
I hope you find peace in this world and hearafter.

Muslims like running over to christian threads to "wonder too" when you pop on theirs they suddenly start hyperventilating.

domt mind them, they all have anger management problem, i am yet to meet a "real moslem"

Hell is simply or means the grave!!! -

bloody liar, that is what u r, when did hell start meaning grave, bloody hypocrites

@ Daviddylan

You should not talk like this no matter how anyone may have hurt you. Hatred is not an attribute of christ. Rather pray that God shouldempower you to stand against the spirits called Kabiru and Khariga both live in the desert of arabia.

'verily, those who annoy Allah and His messenger, God has cursed them in this world and in the Hereafter and has prepared for them a humiliating torment. And those who annoy believing men and women undeservedly, they bear the crime of slander and plain sin' Quran 33:57-58

Salam to my Patient brothers and sisters in ISLAM.
It is only a fool that will read the QUR'AN contextually and the feel he had the message. @davidylan the QUR'AN is not like your abrogated book which you ppl called holy.
For My Muslim Brothers. we always pray to him to guide us to the right path,the path of those whom HE has favored. PPL like @davidylan are mong those who have EYES but cant see and will never see the truth( no sight), have EARS but will never hear. because ALLAH has made them not to have sight and also deaf.

NO HEATHEN TRIBE HAS EVER CONCEIVED OF SO GROTHESQUE A NOTION AS IT DOES IN THE ASSUMPTION THAT MAN IS BORN WITH A HERDITABLE SIN UPON HIM. AND THAT FOR THIS CURSE FOR WHICH HE IS NOT PERSONALLY RESPONSIBLE TO BE ATONED FOR, GOD THE CREATOR OF ALL THINGS HAD TO KILL HIS ONLY BEGOTTEN SON.

Major Yeast Brown

ibrodex:

Salam to my Patient brothers and sisters in ISLAM.
It is only a fool that will read the QUR'AN contextually and the feel he had the message. @davidylan the QUR'AN is not like your abrogated book which you ppl called holy.
For My Muslim Brothers. we always pray to him to guide us to the right path,the path of those whom HE has favored. PPL like @davidylan are mong those who have EYES but cant see and will never see the truth( no sight), have EARS but will never hear. because ALLAH has made them not to have sight and also deaf.

that's very true . . . funny how the bible is the "abrogated book" even though the quran DEPENDS on the bible to fill in gaping holes in its claims on jewish prophets . . . and once contained "abrogated" satanic verses.

Can the average muslim use his brain? Well lets allow him to copy a quote from the "abrogated" bible. Allah seems to be ok with borrowing from the bible when it suits him. Cant say i blame him . . .

Abuzola:

'verily, those who annoy Allah and His messenger, God has cursed them in this world and in the Hereafter and has prepared for them a humiliating torment. And those who annoy believing men and women undeservedly, they bear the crime of slander and plain sin' Quran  33:57-58

allah and his string of empty curses. You'd think he would have found something better to do with his time. you know, like bringing calm to pakistan, afghanistan, yemen, Iran, Sudan, Somalia . . .

I am so sick of empty and dogmatic finger-pointing.

Look at this typical xenophobic, narrowminded, generalistic, presumptuous quote:

davidylan:


Can the average muslim use his brain?

Some-one is talking about brains and yet a good surmise of his own dogma is -

the_seeker:


NO HEATHEN TRIBE HAS EVER CONCEIVED OF SO GROTHESQUE A NOTION AS IT DOES IN THE ASSUMPTION THAT MAN IS BORN WITH A HERDITABLE SIN UPON HIM. AND THAT FOR THIS CURSE FOR WHICH HE IS NOT PERSONALLY RESPONSIBLE TO BE ATONED FOR, GOD THE CREATOR OF ALL THINGS HAD TO KILL HIS ONLY BEGOTTEN SON.

Major Yeast Brown

Still talking about brains

Deep Sight:

Still talking about brains

Errr its funny that even Brown acknowledges that the atonement for our heritable sin was NOT our own sacrifice but that of God Himself! How does that take more than a few brain cells to understand? I would be agreeing with you if the only way to atone for the sin that we are allegedly not "personally responsible for" was that we sacrifice our own blood children.

^^^ O, and i forgot that in the esteemed opinion of Mr. Davidlylan, that "son" that was killed was God himself.

The same great professor Davidylan imagines that the death on the cross saves him of sins, in utter disregard of Christ's own words - "Whatsoeevr a man soweth, the same shall he reap". . .

Go on, David, knock yourself out.

No serious minded intellectual would ever make the sweeping stereotyping statements that you do, and frankly, they betray a definitely inferior world view, and i dare, say, a definitely inferior personal character and system of ethics.

That needed to be said.

Deep Sight:

^^^ O, and i forgot that in the esteemed opinion of Mr. Davidlylan, that "son" that was killed was God himself.

The same great professor Davidylan imagines that the death on the cross saves him of sins, in utter disregard of Christ's own words - "Whatsoeevr a man soweth, the same shall he reap". . .

Go on, David, knock yourself out.

No serious minded intellectual would ever make the sweeping stereotyping statements that you do, and frankly, they betray a definitely inferior world view, and i dare, say, a definitely inferior personal character and system of ethics.

That needed to be said.

You havent said anything that i would take with more than a pinch of salt to be honest . . . i guess some people have an over-bloated view of their own self-worth.

Back to your baseless rant . . . it is NOT my opinion that the "Son" who died was God Himself in human flesh . . . err it is the opinion of the bible which i have shared here way too many times to bother with again.

I dont imagine the death on the cross saves from sin . . . it is a biblical concept! You are of course free to NOT believe it, i only wonder why you seem to be so virulent against those who choose to keep faith with this spiritual concept.

When you say that believing the death on the cross is the only salvation from sin in disregard of Christ's own words i dare to laugh with a healthy dose of cynicism . . . its apparent empty heads like you dont even bother to study the bible BEFORE kicking against it. If Christ felt that whatever we so is what we reap WITH NO ROUTE OF ESCAPE then i wonder why He even bothered to die.

what is even most laughable is that you consider yourself an "intellectual" solely based on your disapproval of the bible.

What system of ethics do you have? Please humor me with a brief list . . . besides merely lampooning whatever the bible has to say of course.

^^^ David -

Let me make one thing clear: i deliberately choose harsh words for you because of the ridiculously harsh words you use with others.

I am more saddened by your presumptiveness because you have never shown any depth of understanding of scripture yourself, certainly not beyond the average Mountain-of-Fire crusader. It seems to me that you have never taken a queit moment to reflect on existence itself, outside of the limited prizim of religion.

I happen to have read the Bible no less than four times from cover to cover, and i am still reading it over and over again. My reading of the bible was founded on a deep thirst for spiritual truth, which i have independently sought since the age of 12. I only state this since you bothered to ask.

It is in this same regard, that i have found it edifying to read far and wide, including the Quoran, a copy of which rests in my bedroom library, along with diverse spiritual works spanning Europe and[b] particularly the Orient.[/b]

The first thing you would have recognised, if you had a moment of true introspection and extropection, is that humanity is diverse, and made in diverse cultural and historical patterns.

Without getting exhaustive, for now i will only remind you of the words in Acts 10: 34 - 35, ". . . God is no respecter of persons. . . but in every nation, he that feareth HIM and worketh righteousness is acceptable to HIM". . .

Given your antecedents, i am certain that the above would either be lost on you, or, not being lost, you would seek to read it through the narrow tunnel of your dogma.

David, to be honest, the very title of this thread alone, proves my point about your mentality. How can any follower of Christ declare that he "hates" another group of people? Did this Christ not urge you to love even your enemies, preaching the "gospel" to them

Again, this convinces me, like i said earlier, that you are a christian only in dogma, and definitely not in ethics.

We will come later, to the shaky foundations of even the very dogma that you espouse.

Deep Sight:

^^^ David -

Let me make one thing clear: i deliberately choose harsh words for you because of the ridiculously harsh words you use with others.

Drop the sanctimonious drivel, i'm not interested in how or why you use harsh words for me. Even if you pepper your responses with insults, i will simply pick the ones i can respond to and leave the rest, your perception of me is not something i will go to bed worrying about tonight so give urself a break.

Deep Sight:

I am more saddened by your presumptiveness because you have never shown any depth of understanding of scripture yourself, certainly not beyond the average Mountain-of-Fire crusader. It seems to me that you have never taken a queit moment to reflect on existence itself, outside of the limited prizim of religion.

This is pretty stupid . . . in one breath you accuse me of having no understanding of scripture and then say i havent taken time out to reflect on existence OUTSIDE the "limited prizm" of that same bible? You sure you understand your own point?

Deep Sight:

I happen to have read the Bible no less than four times from cover to cover, and i am still reading it over and over again. My reading of the bible was founded on a deep thirst for spiritual truth, which i have independently sought since the age of 12. I only state this since you bothered to ask.

Baseless. READING the bible is not the same as understanding it. You may have read the bible over and over again 900 times, the fact that you have NO IDEA about the significance of Christ's death is clear signal you have been merely reading a collection of alphabets.

Deep Sight:

It is in this same regard, that i have found it edifying to read far and wide, including the Quoran, a copy of which rests in my bedroom library, along with diverse spiritual works spanning Europe and[b] particularly the Orient.[/b]

There is more intelligence in reading and understanding ONE document than reading 1000 with no indepth understanding of anyone of them.

Deep Sight:

The first thing you would have recognised, if you had a moment of true introspection and extropection, is that humanity is diverse, and made in diverse cultural and historical patterns.

the diversity of humanity does not take precedence over this - Jesus said - I AM THE WAY THE TRUTH AND THE LIFE . . . NO MAN COMES TO THE FATHER BUT BY ME.

Deep Sight:

Without getting exhaustive, for now i will only remind you of the words in Acts 10: 34 - 35, ". . . God is no respecter of persons. . . but in every nation, he that feareth HIM and worketh righteousness is acceptable to HIM". . .

If you had any shred of intelligence you would ask yourself 2 fundamental questions - what does it mean to "fear" Christ? What does it mean to work righteousness?

Deep Sight:

David, to be honest, the very title of this thread alone, proves my point about your mentality. How can any follower of Christ declare that he "hates" another group of people? Did this Christ not urge you to love even your enemies, preaching the "gospel" to them

Jude 1:23 And others save with fear, pulling them out of the fire; hating even the garment spotted by the flesh.

Yeah . . . how many times did you say you had read the bible again?

Deep Sight:

Again, this convinces me, like i said earlier, that you are a christian only in dogma, and definitely not in ethics.

We will come later, to the shaky foundations of even the very dogma that you espouse.

There is nothing like "ethics" when it comes to christianity. Save that for your humanist class.

^^^ Well, you did not dissappoint, me with the zero quality of your post.

I am happy to take away a few things from this discussion.

davidylan:


This is pretty stupid . . . in one breath you accuse me of having no understanding of scripture and then say i havent taken time out to reflect on existence OUTSIDE the "limited prizm" of that same bible? You sure you understand your own point?

Great, so you admit your education is limited to one book only. I will cherish this admission (although it has always been obvious).

davidylan:


There is nothing like "ethics" when it comes to christianity.

Great again: so your christianity is devoid of ethics. I will also cherish this admission.

I will take the pains to school you in the essentials of -

1. A broad cosmogony

2. Interpersonal respect

3. History

4. Ethics.

5. Existential Insight and interpretation of Scripture.

Although i am fearful it will lead nowhere, considering the vast limitations of your world-view, clearly conditioned only on background, and not on personal meditation and insight. . .

But, my dear son, i will try. . .

Deep Sight:

^^^ Well, you did not dissappoint, me with the zero quality of your post.

Of course . . . i dont waste my time with dictionary phrases in the name of sounding "intellectual".

Deep Sight:

I am happy to take away a few things from this discussion.

Great, so you admit your education is limited to one book only. I will cherish this admission (although it has always been obvious).

Unfortunately for many of you noise makers . . . what i have achieved educationally so far is what you can only dream about.

Spiritually i am content with the bible . . . you can read whatever else you wish to read.

Deep Sight:

Great again: so your christianity is devoid of ethics. I will also cherish this admission.

Christianity is not about a set of ethics, it is about righteous living led by the holy Ghost . . . i'm surprised 900 separate readings of the bible didnt make this clear to you.

Deep Sight:

I will take the pains to school you in the essentials of -

1. A broad cosmogony

2. Interpersonal respect

3. History

4. Ethics.

5. Existential Insight and interpretation of Scripture.

More meaningless garboil. Existential "insight and interpretation" of the bible? Fishermen like Peter, tanners like paul, beggars like lazarus, itinerant preachers like Phillip did not need such bogus sounding but vapid nonsense to understand the gospel of salvation.

Deep Sight:

Although i am fearful it will lead nowhere, considering the vast limitations of your world-view, clearly conditioned only on background, and not on personal meditation and insight. . .

But, my dear son, i will try. . .

This is what passes for "intellectualism" these days . . . what a shame.

The bible does not need existentialism, cosmogony and all other irrelevant piffle . . . John 3:15-18 is about as simple as it gets. If in doubt pls read John 3.

If you still dont understand it and need to grab books on hinduism to "reflect" on "existence" then pls find your own religion.