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raumdeuter:
Send me the link

But all those ex English players wailing were they any better? Was it not Shearers England that failed to qualify for US94 or was it not Rio led defence that failed to qualify for EUro 2008

I'm watching on playstation. Try the bbc football website, they might have it there.

Ramsey could open a beer parlour with carpark and live band in the acres of Space he keeps finding down that left flank.

3 men in one move!

I guess that's that igbo blood in the boy...selling dummys to foreign magas

See Goal!!!!

chic2pimp:
Impressive stuff!.....'Looks like He is campaigning for that role. What He said is right though. The welsh players know exactly what their respective roles on the pitch are unlike their English counterparts.

Shearer has been burnt before in the dugout.

Whenever he gets the itch to manage, He will remember that experience and the travails of a certain G.Neville that has failed for club and country, and he will apply extra super glue to his bum before planting it very firmly on that comfy pundits Sofa

Touchscreen yato si Touchline.

I wish raumdeuter wasn't hiding from Trump supporters and was able to watch BBC coverage of this game.

See Shearer dropping knowledge about the difference between EPL players for England and Wales.

They all come from the same academies but they don't play the same way...

I'm gonna call it now. SIGN RAMSEY NOW.

chic2pimp:
He might as well have a sign on his forehead saying "Free pum pum tonight". The useless mofo is making Robson Kanu look like Suarez.
Wish I could answer that my G. If I were Wilmots, i'll get one of the defence coaches to take his place. Look at the dolt again. Another free run at goal. Fada Lawd!

The guy fully believes in his pace and power...but he's get done in the half-spaces, and channels. Spatial awareness zero. Ball control zero. Tackling zero.

The corner for the goal came from his flank, and be even missed the header that Williams converted.

This guy is the footballing equivalent of the duhduh man from New Jack City.

Apart from that shot Naingollan has been Uber useless today. Ditto Witsel.

See how Ramsey and Joe Allen have bossed the living day lights out of that midfield.

chic2pimp:
Are the Belgians telling me they haven't got a player in that squad that will do a better job than Lukaku? Kit Man anybody?

I'm sure even Lukaku senior would do a better job at Left Back...and I'm talking about their dad.

chic2pimp:
Dude they are both simply hopeless. Goodness me. Denayer let his man have a free run at goal. Good gracious me!

For like 60 freaking yards.

I don't understand how a team like Belgium with talent across the whole board, can be so lacking in defence...

Does this reflect a trend in development practices in that country?

chic2pimp:
My good gawd Is jordan Lukaku a footballer? This dude is beyond useless

I just tire for the guy.

Hazard and KDB have even stopped passing to him.

Ashley Williams does it again!

Didn't he score against us this season just gone sef?

Come on Thibault, you know the man!

Courtouis savings accant

This ref is very bad though.

Jordan Lukaku and Jason Denayer are very foolish defenders. All muscle no brain.

Gareth Bale is just a a magnificent physical specimen.

What an athlete!

I guess senior Lukaku took all the football skill in that family and left his younger brother with nothing but jet black skin and dada hair...

Naingollan and these bullets sha...


Gun chot!!!

Brapp

Carasco na fool o...

See as he wasted that sweet Lukaku laser accurate cross...

dopeJemi:
Raumdeuter, how is your WIFE, I hope the KIDS are fine?

Yes o. How is Mrs Raumdeuter these days?

We hail o.

I'm actually not very happy about this...

Na the pant for that picture dey bust my head every freaking time

Brestar....wagwan sexy?

raumdeuter:
Which tape, you no go see anything for the tape. Both of them na the kain people wey go tie wrapper big like blanket and turn off the transformer before dem do anything

Sometimes all you need is the seed image. Then you can let your imagination do the rest.

Chestar5:
am a nun

I'm already liking the role play....this tape definitely has potential

dopeJemi:
I'm married to nihilist's sister why do you think our bromance is strong

I think you got your family tree mixed up. The effects of too much dope ingestion

Whatever iya arugbo you're married to cannot be my sister. Maybe my Great-Grandmother though. Have fun squeezing leather and enjoy your powdered milk bro...

Fvck the rice...I just wanna watch the tape.

And she better live up to her moniker an be chesty...

platos56:
Besides I see no jealousy.....that is what they tot she SHOULD feel...but watch that scene again...she was happy for him...her expression only changed wen she looked @ Baelish and that expression is 'distrust for Baelish'...like 'what's he gonna do now'....Not jealousy

You know the people I quoted are the actors who actually play Sansa and Jon right?

platos56:
Guy...I don't even know wher to start cos it seems u just don't like d guy cos all ds points u raised are null and void. I mean all. That he is a bastard is a big question mark on him. And that is d MAJOR reason some ppl refuse him or question him. It has notin to do wit his qualities or skills as a leader. @ Hardhome, wud u follow ur enemy (of a thousand years) because of a threat (Whitewalkers) u don't even believe exists. @ Castleblack, of course he's seen as a traitor cos he did what was NEVER done or tot to b done. Simple logic, Enemy of my enemy is (can be) my friend. To fight d boltons, houses didn't follow him MAJORLY because he is a BASTARD, notin more..ask Lord Klaber (or however that is spelt). If it was young Brandon (witout any fighting experience sef)asking, they wud ansa, believe it or not. Lady Mormont has to talked into...Same reason 'BASTARd'....remember her major reason was questioning if either of them(Sansa or Jon) was a Stark and Ser Davos spoke highly of Jon and how he can b d only person that cud lead....come,wht da hell are talking bout sef??.....U just don't like d dude...forget ur points

I may have to be more discriminating when deciding to who to respond to in future

I will try and answer your post, not because I believe it is of any particular value or worth replying, but just to show how events as they happened are considered irrelevant, when the defence of a beloved character is of utmost concern. Seems like even the facts are not allowed to get in the way of your narrative

For instance.

To fight d boltons, houses didn't follow him MAJORLY because he is a BASTARD, notin more..ask Lord Klaber (or however that is spelt).

This is a bold faced lie.

Lord Glover on why he refused to answer Jon -

"Yes, my family served House Stark for centuries. We wept when we heard of your father's death. When my brother was Lord of this castle he answered Robb's call and hailed him King in the North! And where was "King" Robb when the Ironborn attacked this castle? When they threw my wife and children in prison and brutalized and killed our subjects? Taking up with a foreign wh0re... getting himself and those who followed him killed."

You can see that Glover is clearly questioning Stark Leadership here....No mention of the word 'Bastard'

Lord Manderly on why he refused to answer Jon -

""Lady Mormont speaks harshly... and truly. My son died for Robb Stark, the Young Wolf. I didn't think we'd find another king in my lifetime. I didn't commit my men to your cause because I didn't want more Manderlys dying for nothing."

Again the questions of leadership is raised, framed against a concern that Jon would have the Manderlys die for nothing'

Both Lords are very particular in pointing out that the safety of their men was of utmost priority, and neither one of them felt that Jon could guarantee their continued safety.

remember her major reason was questioning if either of them(Sansa or Jon) was a Stark and Ser Davos spoke highly of Jon and how he can b d only person that cud lead

Another bold faced lie. Davos never sold Jon to Lyanna as a great leader. Instead he appealed to her instinct for self-preservation.

His speech below

"Jeor Mormont and Jon Snow both understood that the real war isn't between a few squabbling houses. It's between the living and the dead. And make no mistake my lady, the dead are coming."
As long as the Boltons hold Winterfell, the North is divided. And a divided North won't stand a chance against the Night King. You want to protect your people my lady, I understand. But there's no hiding from this. We have to fight. And we need to do it together"

@ Hardhome, wud u follow ur enemy (of a thousand years) because of a threat (Whitewalkers) u don't even believe exists.

I agree...which is why I did not focus on that in isolation. Like I said, he saved some of them from the whitewalkers and then offered them sanctuary at Castle Black doing away with a tradition that has held several centuries, and at the expense of his own life...yet these guys are still reluctant to fight for him at Winterfell. He has made enormous sacrifices to keep the wildlings alive, and yet was still unable to muster their loyalty without help- HOW COME?

@ Castleblack, of course he's seen as a traitor cos he did what was NEVER done or tot to b done.

This is exactly the point. The Lord Commander of the night's watch perfomed an noble act that was morally right. Yet his subordinates disagreed so strongly with his decision that they actually chose to MURDER HIM. If that is not the biggest exhibit of a lack of faith in his leadership, then I don't know what is.

I'm done with this debate. I cannot continue to repeat myself and deal with the same non-coherent arguments time and again.

No vex bo

oyetpel:
Jon Snow hater for no reason. The fight they (wildings) agree to fight with Jon Snow was against white walkers not participate in a battle within northern houses. They despise and hate all southern of the wall. And yet you expect them to just agree ones. It was white walkers they agree to fight not northern houses battle, so stick that in you. Another thing is they would have even agree to fight with him against the Boltons, case Jon gave them a reason saying if they don't fight with him, after Ramsey Bolton is done defeating Jon, na even The young umber house go finish the wildings. But you know the writers made Jon Snow weak by making Tormund also have a say in the wildings decision.

I'm beginning to think that it is impossible to have either a civil and/or a measured discussion about this show.
I'm not sure that if I should be continuing this discussion, if after reading multiple posts of mine discussing just one particular facet of Jon Snow's character traits, your conclusion is that I hate Jon Snow...and for NO reason.

I remember I raised this point a few pages back:

Nihilist:
They fought, Jon lost, and was rescued by forces who he had neither summoned, nor had under control.

Does it sound logical that when he was shouting 'we fought, we won etc', that not a single person there would point out that he actually had to be rescued from his folly?

So Baelish just sat down there and let Jon share the credit, especially when littlefinger didn't even come to the battle for Jon?

my point has been simple, Jon has been making some pretty bad decisions, and his only backer up until ep 10 was a child....so why has no one called them out on this?

I was reading an interview with Sophie Turner, and this is what she had to say:

Q: What’s going through Sansa’s mind in those final moments as Jon’s being declared King in the North?

A: She’s not getting the credit she feels she deserves, that Littlefinger would grant her with. He obviously wants her on the Iron Throne and him by her side – she doesn’t want that, but she wants recognition for the effort that she put in, in order to claim back Winterfell, because if it wasn’t for her, it wouldn’t have happened. So I think she’s seeing Littlefinger as a bit more trustworthy and more of an ally than she initially thought.

http://variety.com/2016/tv/news/game-of-thrones-season-7-spoilers-jon-sansa-littlefinger-marry-theory-sophie-turner-1201805047/


Another interview with Sansa here:

Q:The Starks are back in Winterfell, and in the finale, Jon and Sansa have a conversation about trust: "We need to trust each other, because we have so many enemies now." Does Sansa trust Jon, ultimately?

A:I think Sansa trusts Jon to make morally right decisions, but I'm not sure if she trusts him with the kind of political things

Q: In the scene, Sansa tells Jon that only a fool would trust Littlefinger. Later, she meets with Littlefinger and he paints this picture of himself on the Iron Throne, with Sansa at his side. She rejects him in the moment, but when Jon is crowned King in the North, Sansa and Littlefinger exchange a look. What is Sansa thinking about Littlefinger's pitch by the end of the episode?

A: As you say, she rejects him in the beginning, but there's definitely something in her that's … it's kind of a jealousy toward Jon. He's getting all of the credit for basically Sansa saving his ass. Obviously he played a huge part in the Battle of the Bastards, but Sansa really saved him. There's a bit of jealousy there. She looks at Littlefinger knowing that he would have put her as Queen in the North, and given her the credit she deserves.

http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/live-feed/game-thrones-finale-sophie-turner-906820



Now listen to Kit Harrington himself on Jon Snow:

“We can’t fight a war amongst ourselves. We have so many enemies now,” Jon tells Sansa. But although the moment is tender, it also foreshadows a bigger problem in their relationship. Snow, who has never had to play delicate political games Sansa excels at, continues to underestimate her power — instead just seeing her as a little sister, not a cunning politician in her own right, with her own ambitions.

“I think Jon is oblivious. He hasn’t actually learned his lesson from trying to pay attention to what she’s feeling. He says he has, but he’s asking her to trust him. He’s not listening and watching and observing her,” Kit Harington says of his character’s shortcomings. That could especially be a problem when we consider Sansa’s subsequent conversation with Littlefinger.

I don't hate Jon Snow, but I think he's a disastrous leader. Pre-BoB, he had only really been trusted as a leader by an immature child and an ignorant wildling. That's why I could not understand why the Nothern Lords were so eager to trust him. Shikena.

raumdeuter:
WHo are the current EPL boys in Portugal?
Currently how many of them play in EPL, They had to leave EPL to be useful to their country in 2008 when all of them were fully in the EPL they crashed out of the quarters to Germany filled with bundesliga players

The only mistake Poland made was to play the useless EPL Fabianski

Cedric and Fonte- Current.

Ororo Nani Quaresma- Alumni.

timbros:
LOL...

I can bet my last buck Ronaldo took that first penalty to 'mock' Messi.

I think that all these all other countries should realise by now that they have a sacred duty to let Portugal win the damn thing.

I'm so pleased that Portugal won't meet the likes of Italy Germany or France unless they reach the final.

Ororo needs one more platinum plaque, then fvck the game, yall can have it back

raumdeuter:
Quaresma is just as useful as his protege Hidden Ikedia Hazard.

Quaresma is so useful he isnt even good enough to start for Portugal

And which 2 goals have Quaresma scored?

Commentator actually said that Quaresma has officially been through most effective sub in the competition.

Meanwhile Portugal full of current and ex EPL boys dispatch Bundesliga bred Polish team

Nttorrr

gj22:
All your points are made totally out of context.

How do you want the Wildlings to fight for him when they don't know him? He was a crow and they literally have just met him for the first time. How are they supposed to know What type of commander he is?

The other lords didn't want to fight for him because the feared the Bolton and also knew that he had an army made up of Wildlings whom they hate. They didn't know what type of commander he was.

Wait, nobody trusts in Jon snow as a leader yet he was elected lord commander of the nights watch? Now, i know you are just arguing for arguments sake

The same guys that elected Jon Snow ended up publicly executing him , so what exactly is your point?

If you look at each of the events I've mentioned, you will see that generally people just don't seem to believe in Jon for whatever reason.

Take the Wildlings for example. Jon warned them of white walkers which gave some of them time to escape. He defied customs that had stood for centuries by allowing the wildlings beyond the wall for their personal safety, and even lost his life for this decision in the process!

Yet the wildlings were still reluctant to fight for him until Tormmund yet again had to intercede

Sansa, his own sister was prepared for him for him to ride his men to certain death , rather than hand him control of the Vale armies.

One event could be bad luck. 2 could be coincidence. 3 is a trend.

Just to confirm that I'm not mad, I Googled 'Jon Snow is a Terrible leader' and found all sorts of publications agreeing with me for the EXACT same reasons I've given - from NY times to Playboy.

I know the guy is a popular character, but I thought it would be pretty obvious that he has severe leadership flaws.

Finally, I really don't appreciate your final sentence saying I'm arguing for arguments sake. I have had to remind you a couple of times now. Attack my argument, not my person. If you feel you are incapable of doing this, then don't quote me. I can be quite nasty myself.

You can bet that ediot is a Bundesliga fan

Chestar5:
are u just noticing? It is either his age is tellin on him or wat.....

You don't know the difference between dribble and drimble?

I wonder if Ronaldo sold all his skills to the gods of football in exchange for goals

These days the guy is all about movement and finishing.

No takeons or drimbles anymore